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we're not going anywhere. >> that was roy moore just moments ago. his own party doesn't want him. mitch mcconnell is telling anybody who will listen including the president himself in a call to vietnam, that moore should drop out. tonight the rnc says it won't give him anymore money. but if moore won't quit are president trump's hands tied? also, there's the cloud of the russia investigation the president has to contend with. remember this now infamous march 31, 2016, meeting that included then candidate trump, jeff sessions and george papadopoulos? well, now sessions he remembers it too although he said last month that he didn't. his memory is still foggy when it comes to that proposed meeting with president trump and vladimir putin. >> i do now recall that the march 2016 meeting at the trump hotel that mr. papadopoulos attended. but i have no clear recollection of the details of what he said at that meeting. after reading his account and to the best of my recollection i believe that i wanted to make clear to him that he was not authorized to represent the campaign or the russian government and any other foreign government for that matter. >> that comes less than 24 hours after the revelation that donald trump, jr. and wikileaks communicated secretly for ten months during the campaign. and then there's the gop tax cuts. will have have to drive a stake through obamacare to get it done, and will working class voters be happy with any of this? let's get to correspondent dana bash and justice correspondent -- i just watched his speech just moments ago. let's listen to what he said. >> playing a little part in this scenario going on in the country. obviously i've made a few people mad. i'm the only one that can unite democrats and republicans. because i seem to be opposed by both. they've spent over $30 million trying to take me out. they've done everything they could, and now they're together to try to keep me from going to washington. >> what i wanted to say there before it was almost like a sermon. like he was preaching, and you notice he was sort of standing at a pulpit. >> i think it was like a faith meeting, a revival, so that's exactly right. >> well, we know mitch mcconnell's side of that conversation, don. and that's because he sort of shouted it from the rooftops that he spoke to the president, to the vice president about the problem that he believes, the very big problem that he believes the republican party and by extension the president and his agenda has because of this moore candidacy. the open question is what the president believes, what he feels and more importantly what if anything he's going sasay publicly now that he's back at the white house, back in washington and back engaged in politics. it's unclear if he's going to say anything. and to be honest even if he does, it's doubtful that that would even have much of an impact on whether or not moore decides to step aside, especially given what he said tonight. and remember the president never endorsed moore. he endorsed luther strange, moore's apopant in the republican primaries. so it's not like there's a lot of goodwill and a reservoir of a relationship there. >> craw, there's no love lost, lts put it that way. two thirds of voters think he should drop out of the senate race. that's including 42% of republicans, 62% of independents. this is according to a new university poll. could we end up -- might we end up seeing president trump put some pressure on jeff sessions to run in as a right end candidate? >> it is possible. i was hearing yesterday from senate republicans in the senate that was a move that was kind about to snowball and gept to become a bigger one. to try to convince jeff sessions. . and the whole reason this is a special election in the first place is jeff sessions vacated his seat to become attorney general. so, yes, the question whether sessions would go for it is first and foremost. he's sent signals to aides no thanks. today was a good day for sessions. as a trump advisor said to me every day is a tough day for sessions. if he's not hearing it from republicans on capitol hill, he's hearing it from his boss. he's totally in the squeeze position. and he's kind of in the i can't please anybody position right now. >> it was a tough day. the attorney general spoke today at a hearing. he said he never misled congress about trump campaign contacts about russian officials. he's deniechbt fiant. he insists he did not lie. >> i think over many, many hours of questioning from democrats. i'm not sure they ever really shook him from that defiance, from that answer which was i thought i was answering a different question. i think the most curious part of today's marathon hearing, don, the fact that curiously enough the attorney general doesn't remember much about that meeting where george papadopoulos apparently brought up the idea of using his contacts to arrange a meeting between candidate trump and vladimir putin. jeff sessions wassert of the leader of that meeting. he said he didn't remember any details of it. but he has clear memory that he shot down the idea. so i think that's one of am more curious parts of today, because i think even he was kind of smiling, riley, as he sort of gave that answer to congress. i think he realizes they're really not going to be able to shake him from this idea, to sort of get over the idea that he lied. they have to somehow sort of shake him from this thought that, you know, he knowingly told a falsehood. and i don't think they can do that because the way he answered these questions was always a little bit you could drive a truck through those answers. so i think that's what he's got on his side. >> dana, look, there's also questions whether the white house is using the department of justice to go after hillary clinton. what do we know about that? >> well, listen, it's an open question whether they will. it has been a very public request, frankly. almost to the point of a demand from the president himself, which anybody and even certainly can attest to this, who has come close to covering the just department never mind who has worked in the justice department will tell you it's completely a breach of protocol. nevertheless the notion of being political certainly was a big question from democrats at today's hearing. let's listen to part of it. >> in a functioning democracy, is it common for the leader of the country to order the criminal justice system to retaliate against its political opponents? >> mr. conyers, i would say the department of justice can never be used to retaliate politically against opponents, and that would be wrong. >> john, this is exhibit a of the very difficult position that jeff sessions is in. because his boss has made it clear that he wants him to investigate and appoint a second special counsel to look into hillary clinton, to look into things that happened in the obama administration. and on that point, he actually pushed back on a fellow republican who was pressing him on whether or not the justice department is going to appoint that second special counsel. and his answer to congressman jordan, he says you have your idea, but sometimes we be to study what the facts are to evaluate whether it meet the standard. meaning we're going to do it by the book and let the professionals do it. and we're not going to make this decision based on the political tenor of the times, which is not going to be popular with his boss. >> they usually don't deal with ideology. they just deal with facts and reality. all of this comes as president trump's son, donald trump, jr. is being scrutinized for messaging wiksy leaks at the end of a presidential campaign. that came up today, right? >> right. i think a couple of democrats tried to bring that up today, don. sessions obviously is not going to be able to talk. and he says because he's recused from the russia investigation he cannot talk about any parts of that. but he was asked about, you know, what the president's own thoughts about wikileaks. if you remember during the campaign the president famously said i love wikileaks. and jeff segs was asked whether or not he loves wikileaks, and he says i'm not a big fan of wikileaks. one last thing to add onto what dana was just talking about, the extraordinary thing having covered the just department over the last decade, to see the president openly on twitter saying he wants his political opponents investigated by the justice department. and today the attorney general began his remarks by talking about the return to the rule of law. it would have been an extraordinary thing for us to hear more, that they were going to go forward with a special counsel. that's a rare thing. there's only been two of them. >> and mueller is one. >> yeah, interesting. dana and evan, thank you very much i appreciate it. attorney general sessions got a grilling today at the hearing of the house committee. i want you to listen to this exchange. >> and while serving as u.s. attorney you once prosecuted a young police officer who lied in a deposition. and in that speech you decided to prosecute that young police officer even though he corrected hiss testimony. let me be clear. the attorney general of the united states of america should not be held to a different standard than the young police officer whose life you ruined by prosecuting him for perjury. >> mr. jeffries, nobody -- nobody, not you or anyone else, should be prosecuted. not me to views of perjury, for answering the question the way i did in this hearing. i've always tried to answer the questions fairly and accurately. >> there he is, and congressman hakeem jeffries joins me now. >> good to be you, don. >> do you believe the attorney general lied about the trump campaign's contacts russian officials? >> well, the attorney general has been less than truthful on multiple occasions when testifying before congress about contacts between himself, the trump campaign and russian operatives. he first came before the united states senate in january and said that he had no communication with any russian officials. it then turned out that he met with the russian ambassador in july of 2016 during the republican national convention. he also met with the republican ambassador sergey kislyak, who's widely vieweds as the top russian spy in the united states of america at the time. also in his senate office in september. he then came back to congress to testify over the summer in response to a question, said he had no idea that any individuals, had not even heard even a whisper, don, that there were any individuals from the trump campaign who had any thoughts of interacting with russian operatives. and then he turns out he hosted a meeting in trump tower in march of last year where george papadopoulos raised the issue directly of arranging a meeting between donald trump and vladimir putin and said he had a whole bunch of contacts in russia that could be helpful to the trump campaign. >> you think it's possible news reports jog his memory? >> i don't think so. because we've seen this pattern of selective amnesia over and over and over again. and there's also a broader question. why is it the fact that all of the president's men continue to have problems recalling the contacts that they were having with russian operatives at the same time when russia was attacking our democracy that the explicit direction of vladimir putin? we're talking about jeff sessions has had these memory problems. michael flynn has had these memory problems. donald trump, jr., his son, has had these memory problems. jared kushner, the son-in-law has had these memory problems. paul manafort, the campaign chairman. carter page. all of them have had these memory problems. this is either the greatest set of coincidences in the 21st century or something really is rotten with the trump campaign. and we're going to get to the bottom of what happened. >> to your memory point, "the new york times," he repeated this phrase i don't recall more than 20 times. here's how they summed it up. mr. sessions said he could not remember much about russian influence on the trump campaign except when he could block such influence. do you think that you're going to hear more from sessions on all of this in the future? >> well, the american people deserve to learn the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about this whole sordid affair. our democracy was attacked. its integrity is at issue. and we're determined no matter how much obstruction we see from my friends on the other side of the aisle, to get to the bottom of what had occurred. now we've got the rob mueller investigation, everyone in washington with the exception of donald trump has great confidence in his capacity and his professionalism. but we also need to figure out for the american people through the context of continued aggressive investigations in the house and the senate, what exactly happened, don, so we can make sure that we can prevent these types of attacks on our democracy from happening again. because russia is determined to continue to strike-out at us. >> while i have you here, congressman, i want to ask you about the justice department looking into whether a second special prosecutor is needed to look into the clinton foundation and the uranium one deal. some are wondering whether fox news host janine peero who has denounced sessions had any influence. this is according to "the new york times," in an oval office meeting ms. peero said that a special council needed to be apointed. through a fox news spokeswoman she says everything i've said to president trump is exactly what i've vocalized on my show. is the justice department being influenced by politics? >> i certainly hope not. we do know this president does tend to be influenced by what he sees on other networks, even conspiracy theories that are peddled by others. but we have a bedrock in the united states of america that the rule of law cannot be bent by political individuals and certainly not by the president of the united states of america. to the attorney general's credit he seemed to understand that in his testimony today. hopefully he won't cave into the pressure from a president who continues to call his attorney general beleaguered. that would be unfortunate. we have a president who clearly does seem to have authoritarian tendencies that are aggressive in nature. and one example of that would be to try to strike-out at political opponents by using the department of justice. i think that would really trigger, however, a constitutional crisis that hopefully would lead democrats and republicans to resist and serve as a meaningful check and balance on his overreach. >> congressman hakeem jeffries, thank you, sir. when we come back jeff sessions insists he never lied under oath, but there's a lot he says he just doesn't recall. could that come back to haunt him? 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(vo) call 844-4-brightstar for your free home care planning guide. attorney general jeff sessions in the hot seat today testifying before the house judicialry committee and changing his story on russia. let's discuss now. the former nixon white house council, john dean. robert mueller special assistant at the doj. good evening tolife oyou. so good to have you on. john, you first. there were many heated exchanges during the sessions testimony where he insists he did not lie. watch. >> you did have communications with the russians last year, isn't that right? just yes or no. >> i had a meeting with the russian ambassador, yes. >> that's exactly the opposite answer you gave under oath as the u.s. senate. so again either you're lying to the u.s. senate or the u.s. house of representatives. >> well, i hope the congressman knows and all of you know that my answer to that question i did not meet with the russians was explicitly responding it the shocking question that i as a surrogate was meeting on a continuing basis for russian official and the implication was to impact the campaign in some sort of nefarious way. and all i did is meet in my office with the ambassador, which we didn't discuss anything like that. >> so john, he says he haensn't changed his answers. and at the same time we heard i don't recall a lot today when it came to russia. did sessions perjure himself today? >> well as, my former boss famously said, perjury is a toff rap to prove. that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. it certainly happened with watergate and the i don't recall defense. the former chief of staff, he went to jail over i don't recall because the tape showed that was contrary. today the comparable with the tapes are the pervasive nature of e-mails. and mr. sessions may be pulled up short with something like that. we don't know all the evidence available at this point. but, don, he's playing a dangerous game because his statements are not only incomplete, they're now frequently inconsistent. >> yeah. but democrats were quick, john, to cut him off today. especially when they didn't think he was being consistent. >> true. they did. and the congressman was one of the better ones you had just now, the prior segment. he did an excellent job of pinning him down and getting him to answer questions or not answer. >> mike, sessions also said the doj will consider investigations into hillary clinton, but he did not say whether he would recuse himself from that. why won't he make that pledge now when he said he would do just that during the confirmation hearing? >> right, he said that to senator grassly, he would consider himself recused from that. and i believe that the justice department recusal requirements will so inform his behavior and that he will actually recuse himself. the merits of an investigation of hillary clinton and the clinton foundation and uranium one are quite sketchy. ask i would hope that he would also withstand white house pressure to have a special counsel when none is really required. the point here is that special counselors are appointed when there's conflicts of interest, and there isn't necessarily conflicts of interests here. and secondly they're only required when there is an inability of the justice department to prosecute the matter themselves. and there's no evidence that there's anything worth prosecuting here. so this is politics in a very sad sense. and hopefully jeff sessions will be true to his word that he will not institute an investigation of these matters unless the evidence warrants it. i think that his shining moment today. >> but he said there could be close to ten investigations he's already recused himself from. is that difficult? >> well, these are i think subsets of broader investigations. there's one broader investigation, which is mueller. and then mueller has sort of off shoots from it. so anything that under the justice regulations that relates to a person he knows or campaign that he's worked for or people connected with that campaign, he has to be recused for. so since there's different investigations ongoing related to all those subjects, i think there's one big bundle. >> president trump has made it very clear he thinks the justice department should investigate hillary clinton. you think this is sessions punting. why do you think that? >> because in some ways if he was going to do it he would have done it by now. his position is so precarious. and i think you're seeing sessions is such a complicated person at this stage. he clearly has an idea how he should behave as attorney general but keeps getting criticized by the man he basically gave up the senate career for. so him pushing back does talk about cull rear prosecutors, we'll make the decision wlch we're not going to throw this into the political arena. he kept saying career people will decide. ask i just have to agree, you know, that even if you read this deal, this hillary clinton deal in the worst light possible, right, it's very hard to see why a special prosecutor would be needed. at best maybe a crime was committed. i'm not even going to admit that. reading it in the best right possible to those who are critical of hillary clinton, the special prosecutor does not match that. this is something that prosecutors within the department of justice would investigate. and it seems that's what sessions is at least trying to get some of the political fever off of him. >> john, if sessions goes ahead with the investigation of trump's opponents, peter baker said this with establinorms estd after watergate. what do you think? >> i think it absolutely would. that's a watermark no one wants to repeat. hopefully trump won't go there and sessions will honor his testimony today. >> thank you all. when we come back, the list now stands at five women accusing roy moore of sexually abusing him when they were teenagers. the senate majority leader saying he should not be allowed to serve, but roy moore continues to lead the senate race. what do alabama voters think? when did you see the sign? when i needed to create a better visitor experience. improve our workflow. attract new customers. that's when fastsigns recommended fleet graphics. yeah! now business is rolling in. get started at fastsigns.com. allow you to take advantage of growth opportunities. yeah! now business is rolling in. with a level of protection in down markets. so you can head into retirement with confidence. brighthouse financial established by metlife. i just saved thousands in less than a minute, i found out how much home i can afford. i like how you shop for loans the same way you shop for flights online. i didn't realize at lendingtree you can save money on almost any sort of loan. i consolidated my credit card debt with a personal loan. i found a new credit card with 0% interest for 15 months. you just shop, compare, and save. and it's all free. go to lendingtree right now and start saving. that's why feeling safe is priceless. with adt, you can feel safe with an adt starter kit professionally installed for only $49.00. call today, and install an adt starter kit that includes security panel, keypad, key fob, entry and motion sensors and for a limited time, get a camera included and installed at no additional cost. that's a $449.00 value, installed, for just $49.00. to find smarter solutions. to offer more precise and less invasive treatment options than before. like advanced genomic testing and immunotherapy. see how we're fighting to outsmart cancer at cancercenter.com/outsmart alabama judge roy moore refusing to tonight to quit the senate race despite heavy pressure from republicans on capitol hill. let's bring in the commonnist at the alabama political reporter and contributor to the voice of alabama politics. and john sharp, a reporter for alabama media group. good evening to both of you. so john, a defiant roy moore he took to the stage tonight at the god save america conference in jackson, alabama, blaming attacks on him on the media and vowing to keep fighting. here's a portion of what he had to say. >> i'm now placing allegations, and that's all the press want to talk about. but i want to talk about the issues. i want to talk where this country's going. and if we don't come back to god we're not going anywhere. >> so are, john, you were in the room when moore made these comments. how did it go over with the crowd? >> well, the crowd loved it, don. it fell right to the base. you know, it was spot on for the audience. it was a speech he didn't really dive into the issues too much, the typical issues we think of. he discussed more or less about the spiritual battle that he feels cri feels christians are in. and it was a 32 minute speech and the crowd loved it. there was a standing ovation, and he really count on the base for december 12th. >> yeah, i watched it here. and he mostly talked about the bible. but in addition of allegations of sexual abuse from roy moore gary tuchman has tracked down a former mall employee which he said he was told to alert police if moore showed up at a mall. take a listen to this. >> we talk about other people and somebody said don't forget about roy moore. and i asked what about roy moore? and they said, well, he's banned from the mall. i said why is he banned, and a police officer wouldn't tell me. he said if you see him, let me know. >> so what did you eventual learn? >> i was told he was bothering girls in the mall. >> reporter: in what way? >> i don't know exactly. that he was approaching them and talking to them. >> reporter: when you say girls. >> reporter: teenage girls. >> so what have you heard? >> we've heard these rumors for weeks before now. and it's been a thing around gadsten for the longest time. it's just shameful so many women have to come around, and it's sad he's saying he doesn't know anything about this, where the mall is and he hasn't heard these women. gadsten's is a small town. it's sad since he's so big on the ten commandments. i think there's going to be a hardened base that's going to back down and use the bible to justify these acts roy moore has done. but i think there are a lot of good god fearing alabamians who are listening to this, and they know these stories ring frufor women across the state and across america. they can't look the other way and can't let someone like roy moore represent us in the senate. so i think a lot of people are going to stay home and hopefully a lot of people vote for doug jones, someone who prosecuted the instead of someone who molested them. >> there's very little that can be said between now and election day that's going to change that. earlier i was in jackson and met a diner, and he described himself as a an ardent trump supporter, someone who think weez need to drain the swamp, you know the typical statements that you hear. but he says he's really having to soul search over this. he describes himself as a strong christian conservative. so i think there's a little bit of that right now, where folks are digesting some of this news, and they're really struggling with it right now as it keeps coming out. >> what an interesting time to be in birmingham. i worked there for a bit, and i would be interesting to cover this story. when we come back, evangelicals in alabama facing a tough decision. will they support roy moore even in the wake of sexual allegations. only haul gravel. introducing the new 2018 ford f-150. with best-in-class towing... best-in-class payload... and best-in-class torque... the f-150 lineup has the capability to get big things to big places- bigtime. so bring out your atvs, your campers, your palominos. hey. you're not always working. but your truck is. this is the new 2018 ford f-150. it doesn't just raise the bar, pal. it is the bar. a defiant roy moore is not only refusing to drop out of the senate race, he is calling this a spiritual battle. but what do evangelical voters think about all this? thank you so much for skrojoinis here on cnn. we appreciate it. this is forcing christian voters in alabama to make a really tough decision. how is an evangelical christian voter supposed to choose which is more important, their politics or their faith? >> el, you know, that's a very good question. it's a crisis of conscious that evangelicals are facing right now acutely in alabama. and the first thing we have to understand is the severity of these charges. if we're united on anything surely it is the fact that no 30-year-old man has any business having anything to do with a 14-year-old girl. there's still strong consensus it's just absolutely wrong. >> well, a 14, 16 or 17-year-old rosh right? >> absolutely. and here's the problem on this, don. when the autopsy is done, it's going to be the severity of the charges, we couldn't imagine charges more severe, but also the inadequacy of judge moore's response and his denials. they just were far too elastic to fit the moral importance of these charges. i think many evangelicals are just beginning to understand that. as the evidence piles up, as the charges are made, it's not so much just the credibility of the charges. that's there, of course. but it's also the inadequacy of judge moore's denials to date. >> we don't have much time, but i want to play this. this is clip from an alabama voter who was asked about this. play this please. >> at first, you know, i really wasn't sure how i felt about the situation. but then i look at it this way. i don't have the best past. and if he had, i believe the good lord's forgiven him, and he has the right to continue to prove himself. he went to the lord and asked him forgiveness for that and hasn't done anything like that since then, i believe the good lord's forgiven him and as a christian i have to forgive him also. >> okay, all right. i'm just trying to figure out how that makes sense. because if he did do what she said, if he did do it, that would be a criminal offense. shouldn't he go to jail, right, and maybe she can forgive him instead of becoming a u.s. senator? what is happening here? >> well, the christian world view is really clear on this. the bible says if we confess our sins, he meaning christ is just to forgive our sins. that's the gospel of christ. but there's two things here we have to note. first of all that means confessing that sin and repenting that sin. there's no biblical notion of forgiving sin of one has not confessed and which one is repentant. even though one is forgiven in terms of the grace of god and christ, there are still penalties to behavior in terms of the criminal law. so even though -- >> listen, i understand that. i grew up a christian and am still a christian. but listen, what she is saying if he hasn't done it then he should be forgiven and then go onto become a u.s. senator. what most people would say as i christian i can forgive him, but this precludes him from becoming a senator and perhaps he should become an inmate. do you understand what i'm saying? >> well, i'm agreeing with you. i'm saying biblical christianity would affirm the consequences of sin even if we understand the forgiveness of sinning with christ. we're not talking about cheap grace here. the bible talks about confession and repettance. and at this point we're talking about allegations judge moore has denied. but he's using words we're not really understanding like not customary behavior. and i think those who have immediately defended moore and in the immediate aftermath, i think similar minded christians are not only thinking clearly about this but having not only second but third thoughts. not only in 2016, there was a real division amongst evangelicals. i think there's a lot more unimty, consensus in this case and i'm thankful for that. it is a big deal. >> i really enjoy this conversation and appreciate your perspective. >> thanks so much for having me. when we come back roy moore's own party doesn't want him. what is it all going to do -- what's going to happen with the gop with this? 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(♪) (♪) it all starts with a wish. the lincoln wish list event is here. sign and drive off in a new lincoln with zero down and a complementary first months payment. my abwill i have pain andating made daibloating today?ing game. my doctor recommended ibgard to manage my ibs. take control. ask your doctor about nonprescription ibgard. republican leaders in congress trying to put as much distance as possible between roy moore and the g.o.p. we have new york times op ed columnist good evening. you heard mitch mcconnell and other g.o.p. leaders speak, the president is the only one that says if guilty everyone else says he should be removed from the race why draw the line. >> i think they are worried about the republican brand with donald trump and scared that roy moore will give opportunities to say lines we won't cross and things we won't indulge and he's become a test case for them a symbol to say here's what we stand for. >> in the last 24 hours this has all changed mitch mcconnell saying even if he never wins will never serve in the senate watch this. >> i think it is safe to say if he were to be sworn in he would immediately be in a process before the senate es exes committee it under perfect which would be sworn in, he would be asked to testify under oath as well, and it would be a rather unusual beginning. >> so the national republican se sentatoral committee pulled its funding only backing was alabama party if he wins or loses do you think this. >> interesting a voice is missi missing that's donald trump. you have to wonder why because of the different acquisition from women, different acquisitions but acquisitions nonetheless. trump has consistently cast the media as untrust worthy so how does he weigh in it's difficult for him to do that because he's fof foster this anti establish creed and roy moore is ever cloaking himself in christian righteousness like a christian martyr his brother comparing him to jesus that's sort of what smo o roy moore was doing tonight about himself. >> it's interesting when you see conservative media those who carried his water for the last week are now starting to change their tunes when everyone else is like what are you doing. >> yeah in the last hour hannity said your explanations are not satisfactory when you lost sean handity it's close to the ends of the road. >> let's talk about the tax bill g.o.p. throwing obama into the latest tax proposal. they tried and failed four times, just this round with president trump, why do you think they are throwing it in. what do you think of this approach. >> they are trying to make the numbers of the bill work. got to keep it below a certain amount so they can pass it with the kind of vote they want to pass it with and are banking on the fact some republicans who where are not eager to repeal by on the right side of a tax cut that maybe they will swallow the mandate if wrapped into a tax cut or reform whatever they're calling it. >> i want to ask about social versus fiscal conservative in this tax bill will add over $100 billion to the deficit, how do you define the g.o.p. >> it's incredible hypocritical, one thing that's shocking we haven't heard from paul ryan who seems concerned but yet is fully on board. when we come back at least four dead in the shooting rampage in northern california and details on the seven crime scenes and how actions on the elementary school staff likely stopped even more violence. really? really? really? really? really? really? see zero in a whole new way. get zero down, zero deposit, zero first month's payment, and zero due at signing on select volkswagen models. now with the people first warranty. police in rural northern california say a gunman opened five in seven locations killing four people before officers shot him dead. dan, what are you learning? >> well authorities say this began as some kind of neighborhood dispute after an initial burst of gunfire where the shooter was targeting a woman he was feuding with he then gets into a stolen pick up and starts shooting at houses randomly and at a certain point he crashes that pick up truck and then car jacks a driver and starts shooting at more people at one point struck a woman who was driving to school with her children in the backseat the young mother was shot she's in the hospital with life-threatening injuries her son was also hit but he's going to be okay. things gets really frightening when the shooter goes to the school with a semi automatic weapons fires 30 rounds shoots through the walls and glass, as least one boy was injured, he's suspected to survive. very frightening situation. because the school quickly went under lock down many, many lives were saved. >> is there anything else we know about this shooter? >> we do know, don, that he does have a criminal record. he's been arrested several times, in fact he was arrested back in january and there was a restraining order placed on him by a woman, this woman he targeted this morning in this small community is among the dead. but of course a lot more news to be investigated. the fbi is assisting local authorities with the investigation. >> dan, thank you. this is cnn tonight i'm don lemon it's 11:00 p.m. on the east coast. we're live with new developments. roy moore refusing to drop out of the senate race, his own party doesn't want him, do they have any good options of he w s wins. they are throwing a repeal of obama on the mandate into tax cut repeal is this what the base really wants, we'll discuss. talk to our political commentators and author of the conservative case for trump and author of savage wars of peace. good evening to all of you. rebecca i will start with you, welcome

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