how does it feel to be inside? >> feels great, actually. we do the live shot in front of trump tower i feel like i'm at the bus stop. there's always a bus behind me when the live shot comes up for some reason. i digress. >> good to see you inside. we were talking about wait, did the election happen or is it still going on? >> we pushed its back to december is what happened. >> i want to talk about this meeting today with donald trump. he backed away from promises to prosecute hillary clinton. he denounce add knee neo-nazi movement and he indicated that he has an open mind when it comes to climate change. who is this donald trump? >> this has been the story of this transition, he turns up the temperature, he turns down the temperature and i think that i sort of feel like the "new york times" got the press conference we were supposed to get today before donald trump went on vacation but i thought it was revealing and it shows the push and pull inside the transition team and perhaps the push and pull inside donald trump's mind as to what kind of president he's going to be. is he going to be this president we saw on the campaign trail who was a fire-breathing scorched earth guy or is the presidency, the weight of the presidency, moderating his views? he was starting to indicate in that "60 minutes" interview he was not going to go after hillary clinton and that was campaign rhetoric and today was the final nail in that. we're not going to see hillary clinton indicted or prosecuted under a trump presidency. >> and we'll see how his supporters feel about that. breitbart today the headline was "broken promise." >> not only about that but a number of things so far. his second meeting with a major news organization, with the anchors and the head of television from different outlets and the "new york times," what's he trying to accomplish? >> clearly he recognizes the importance of the media even though he bashes journalists every chance he gets. he can complain on twitter about the crooked media but he recognized the fourth estate. i was at a dinner that's normally about journalists in dinner in trouble in other countries, tonight it was about the united states, about the creeping threat to press freedoms posed by donald trump. our boss jeff zucker talked about holding the administration's feet to the fire, so did david remnick of the "new yorker" and christiane amanpour impressed the room the most, i think, talking about journali journalism's existential crisis. not only because of donald trump but fake news and other issues but she was clear about the challenge we face to hold trump accountable. he says so many things, contradictory in nature and criticizes journalists all the way. it's a yuf nia-mali ee's a uniq >> and we can't back off because trump supporters will say we're liars or fake news and that it's not our job to approach any candidate or any president with a critical eye. that's what the media does. without that i don't think they would want a country without that. do you mind a share if a conversation we had privately. >> of course -- course? >> i think you'll be find with it. >> we were talking about if reporters were afraid of donald trump or members of the media in some way and you said you believe some people are. >> i think many journalists have been fearful of donald trump because of his talk about loosening up libel laws, of the way he would encourage crowds at rallies to protest the media but you said no, you're not afraid of him. >> i think that energizes us. that emboldens us to -- when someone is trying to intimidate you, it's almost like a bully, what you do is you tell that bully no you're not going to do it. so what happens no? how do they teach you to deal with a bully? when sun bullies you, punch them in the nose and they back down. >> the way i look at it is donald trump did not defeat us, he defeated hillary clinton. we're here to do our job and journalists have been threatened and pressured by administrations going back decades. as long as we do our job we'll be fine. >> he deserves for some credit to going over to the "new york times" headquarters today. i was talking to carolyn ryan, the political editor saying it was a good sign he took questions for an hour. >> and to do it on camera. >> he should have a press conference. it's been two weeks. normally president-elects do that by now. >> this is what i think. i think the meeting yesterday -- i thought it was good he met with the media. the mistake was that it was off the record because then people in the meeting were hamstrung. as a reporter, as a journalist if someone says "off the record" to me that's off the record, i don't call brian stelter and say here's what happened in the meeting so journalists had no recourse. the message came from donald trump's camp so -- >> saying he was aggressive and how do you fight back because then you break the rules and you're not being a good journalist. what the "new york times" did today was heroic in saying no, you can meat with our boss off the record that's fine but when you meet with reporters and journalists it's on the record and we get to report about it. >> and the "times" is using trump's desire for an off-the-record chat as leverage to say we'll have a private talk if you talk with us publicly. >> you're donald trump, what do you have to be afraid of? answer the questions. it worked for him so well in the primaries. >> so we were talking about -- let's move on because we're news for the newsroom what are you hearing about mitt romney? is he seriously considering this? >> i talked to a source who says he is seriously considering being donald trump's secretary of state. i was talking to a republican source earlier this evening asking in what world any of this makes sense and insane is the new black. we're living in crazy times and this is something to expect the unexpected. if donald trump being president doesn't make sense to you, then mitt romney being secretary of state doesn't make much sense either but in some ways it makes sense to both of these men. donald trump needs a moderating influence on the world stage. mitt romney would provide that, at the same time mitt romney would probably like to get back in the game. >> any other announcements coming? >> we should point out that we think tomorrow there will be more announcements. nothing as important as secretary of state or as high priority as secretary of state but we do understand that some cabinet picks may come down tomorrow and it's interesting this back and forth over secretary of state, don, get this, newt gingrich earlier tonight campaigning against mitt romney earlier tonight. take a listen. >> well, i think trump would have to think through. romney wanted to be in president-elect trump's job. you know? and to what degree would romney once he became secretary of state represent himself going around the world? in the john kerry tradition of let's go from five star hotel to five star hotel having gourmet dinners with foreign ministers and to what extent would he represent the kind of stuff-minded america-first policies that trump has campaigned on. trump has to have somebody at state who's very tough and very willing to take on foreign leaders and say, wait a second, i'm here to represent the united states. >> that was shady. >> newt gingrich campaigning in favor of rudy giuliani by the way for secretary of state. >> hadn't he ever heard of secretary of state hillary clinton? >> team of rival, exactly. but remember mitt romney defeated newt gingrich for the 2012 republican nomination. might be some residual hard feelings there and at the same time there is -- but this is this -- this crystalizes the debate inside trump world which is do we let somebody like mitt romney who called donald trump a phony and fraud into the tent? into the the inner sanctum? it's a debate donald trump will have to sort out. >> fascinating conversation. >> wwbs? what would breitbart say? we saw them calling out trump on his broken promise about clinton. i wonder how much pressure he'll face from people far to the right. >> or obamacare, for the wall, for a number of things. >> but a lot of his supporters -- and they have told us that on the campaign trail -- >> they thought it was bluster. >> they thought it was bluster. it's not so much i believed what drmp h donald trump had to say, i liked the way he said. >> it thank you, gentlemen. happy thanksgiving. how does the rest of the world see donald trump? here to discuss, the profession of international relations in the university of rome and the world bureau chief for the daily beast. good to have both of you on. good evening to you. barbie, you first. how is donald trump, the transition, playing in the european press? >> well, i think people are watching very curiously across europe but especially here in italy. you know, we've walked down this road before with silvio berlusconi. a lot of italians are saying you made fun of us, now it's our turn to make fun of you a bit. and people are watching. most people in europe assume europe will be left out of any sort of trump policy so it will be up to europe to go through major transitions they're seeing in the next couple of months with brexit and the like so people are watching, very curious to be sure. >> rula, to you now. barbie mentioned silvio berlusconi, so -- and you and others have compared donald trump to silvio berlusconi, the former italian prime minister. why is that? >> well, they're very similar. they're both businessmen who consider themselves outsiders who appeal to the basic common denominator, who will basically campaign against immigrants, campaign as outsiders, call their opponents corrupt, inept, even traitors who attack the media on and off, berlusconi fired and sued many of my friends who worked here in italian television, even comedians, sued bill maher. he called the judiciary the worst cancer of our democracy. i think people underestimated berlusconi and he went on winning and i wrote a year ago in the "washington post" that not to underestimate trump because he might win. he's appealing to all kind of people and i think the pace is resentful of gridlock in washington, d.c. and of the economic difficulties and basically he's sanctioning prejudice as well so i thought he will win and he did and we underestimated him, mocked him, laughed about him and this is what we got. >> so barbie, what were the keys to berlusconi winning over the italian people? >> well, i think he really -- just the same with trump, he spoke to the common person and here he was in his chauffeur-driven car, his armani suit, nothing like those people who ended up voting for him but he represented a dream, he was a self-made man, successful or so he presented himself on the work of his own back and he did it kind of with a wink and nudge and he was very sexist, that played well here in italy, i'm sorry to say. he was extremely racist, that played well to a certain number of voters and people thought they found common ground with him. they were sick of the old establishment. berlusconi in italy represented something fresh and new and different and they voted him in three times. >> let's also remember he also dominated the media. he was -- he owned half of the media, he controlled the other half, he was a master manipulator exactly like trump. people in the beginning used him for ratings exactly like cbs chief who who said well, trump is bad for the country but good for cbs, bring it on, donald. we underestimated him and we thought he will not win. berlusconi went on winning and basically most people when he left were worse off than when he entered office. 80% of young people now don't believe in democratic institutions anymore. he waged a war on judiciary, journalists, he waged actually a war between people themselves. the system is discredited since that moment. italy had to be bailed out by europe in 2014 and force them to resign otherwise it would have become like greece on any other country. the risk with trump, because he's a businessmantra transactional, exactly like berlusconi, his policy will be what can i get out of this deal? and we're seeing the conflict of interest already rising and we saw this with berlusconi in italy. his lawyers were sitting in parliament writing the reforms for him and defending him in court. i met him twice, i interviewed him twice and i met him when he said that islam is an inferior civilization which was appealing to many europeans here after 9/11. and in privately he told me that he never meant that so he would say something in the morning, deny it in the evening exactly like trump. he would lie on and off and he told me he never said that and the proof of it that he dated an arab woman, he had a relationship with an arab woman, we later discovered she was an underage prostitute of the name ruby. so he played the media, he played everyone in italy and he really almost wrecked the country. and the issue with trump, we're seeing now with his private meetings. look at what happened. he's deflecting exactly like berlusconi. so trump is now mocking and insulting the people on broadway, especially at "hamilt "hamilton" to cover the real issue, and the real issue is his meeting with japanese leaders and his indian partners and especially what happened with a phone call with argentina. from the president called him and what happened immediately the day after all of his enterprise have open access and his business deals are approved immediately. this smells of corruption and this is what we need to hold him on. >> okay, rula and barbie, stand by. when we come back, why silvio berlusconi's story may be a warning sign for donald trump. go, go! 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i wonder if that was the same with berlusconi? >> look trump is berlusconi on steroids, he's a master manipulator and he's very effective at it. he's an expert in the media remember when the first presidential -- i think it was in the primaries when megyn kelly asked him about his misogynistic at tuesday towards women. what did he do? his deflection was very clear. he attacked her, attacked her, attacked her and we start talking about him attacking megaagameg megaagain k megyn kelly. and as soon as we saw the lawsuit for trump university $25 million he moved to the next deploex moment which is hamilton. we need to talk about hamilton, two minutes, five, six then back to the real issues and this is the advice from our experience here in italy. focus on the real issues, the real issues will be there, all of them. the writings are on the wall. the misogyny, the sexism, corruption, conflict of interest, xenophobia. we see people already in washington, d.c. celebrating and he's basically deflecting and talking little bit about them but above all he is waging a war against the media and "hamilton." so we're talking more about those issues than the real issues and the last thing, the opposition will have to recognize and will have to invent somebody. the only man that beat berlusconi twice, not once, was the opposite of berlusconi, was mr. pradi who was an outsider but he was a priest, a principled guy and he gaye recipes, listen to voters. he didn't listen to berlusconi. he listened to voters and give them some hope and made them understand that, yes, we struggle but we struggle together and we recognize together. he was an on rabbhonorable man convictions. this is what the opposition needs to do in america and journalists, all of us, we need to challenge him even if he sues, bullies and intimidates us. >> i think the american press is up to that challenge. >> i hope so. >> berlusconi famously insulted angela merkel's looks, boasted about his sexual conquests and treated women as sex objects and there was a backlash in italy. a resurgence of feminism. might american women have a similar response to donald trump? >> well, i think berlusconi really underscored -- the phenomenon of berlusconi underscored just how far we have to go as women and in italy especially people thought is it really this bad that we can allow ourselves to be exploded? that we can take these pay cuts? that we cannot get jobs because we might have a baby, that we have to put a picture on our resume because they want to see what we look like. those things that happened here in italy are being chipped away. there's still a long way to go and that's because women galvanize and men in supportover women's rights ban valuized in italy because of berlusconi but they didn't realize how bad it was until it was so blatantly in front of them and we see that in the states to a certain extent that a man could be elected president of the united states and says things that are so demeaning to women and yet still win means that we have a long way to go in the united states as well as women in italy did. and the only way is up. >> but yet a lot of women, barbie, especially white women in the united states, voted for him. >> because it was about voting against what you hate, not what inspires you. it was about identity politics more than anything else. don, you and i are journalists but we are black and we understand what this election has been about all along. it's also about racism, xenophobia and other things. berlusconi treated women in a horrible way, disgusting way but he felt he was above the law, that he could do it and get away with it, exactly like trump who many women accused of of sexually athem. what did he do after? he started threatening them, bullying them and even the media when they interviewed them and gave them space -- and i remember i interviewed one of the women who actually was bullied by berlusconi and she was a prostitute. we interviewed her for our network, he almost sued us, he made a couple of my friends resign, he went after us big time. but we resisted and luckily people that were sued won the cases. so it can be done. when it came to women he was so outrageous, berlusconi, one of his lovers who was a model, a top model, he was appointed as a minister of equal opportunities. this is how bad it got that the office of the prime minister became an orgy house, excuse my language, a whore house. my fear with trump and the normalization of xenophobia of s sexism and racism if we don't push back, this will become. this is what he wants. i think yesterday he said conflict of interest? people knew of it, this is okay, this is normal. it's not okay, not normal and we need to call it for what it is. thank you. >> thank you, rula, thank you, barbie, i realize it's very late or very early there and appreciate you getting up early. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you, don. straight ahead, donald trump does not think "saturday night live" is funny. at least not when it pokes fun at him. does he need to lighten up? 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>> yeah. >> should i watch? >> you should. >> you make fun of presidents? >> no, i make fun of every ethnicity in new york and how they help form the new york personality. >> i think you'll like it. >> so donald trump is the president-elect, what do you think? >> look, they said when i was a kid what makes america great is anybody can grow up to become president of the united states. they weren't lying. >> i saw that one coming a mile away. what did you mean by that. >> that was sneaky. but, you know, i was more surprised than anybody. i thought it was going to be gary johnson. yeah. >> so you said you make fun of every ethnicity because that is what makes new york,new york and makes its run. do you think this election was a reaction to be overly politically correct? >> yeah. i mean for a lot of people i think it was. i'm not saying that -- i would u.s. is say like the sheet metal worker in wisconsin doesn't like being scolded by people on the red carpet, you know what i mean? you can't be up there in versace gowns giving civic lessons to a topeka electrician or something. you know what i mean? a lot of it was that i think. >> so what do you do then? >> what do you mean? >> you don't give speeches on the red carpet in versace gowns? >> i just feel like people got too full of themselves scolding -- you can't cold a vietnam vet and his retired nurse wife in the midwest and expect them to go "you're right about me, i am going to vote --" you know? this country is going to have -- this country is headed for a divorce, that's what i say, or a civil war. >> i've heard lots of people say that. do you believe that? >> yeah. >> so speaking of show business, donald trump tweeted at "hamilton" and "snl." what do you think. >> pence got booed at the hamilton show but it's like you can't say gay people need to be reprogrammed and then go to a broadway show and expect not to get boot. >> especially not that show. >> any broadway show. it could have been a lot worse if he'd gone to "kinky boots" or i don't know, "wicked." >> i know you're joking around, but what do you think would happen if you just do your home work on "hamilton" and on broadway. a lot of gays, a lot of gay people. what did you think was going to happen. >> he's walking in lake, hey, like we said before, it's like going into an irish bar going "let's quit drinking." you can't. >> you're irish, right? >> yes. >> i'll let that stand. >> well, wait until you see my show, i take many liberties with anybody. >> he's upset with "snl" saying that was based and that he wanted equal time. >> equal time. >> is that your trump. >> yes. >> how does it go? >> fantastic, low energy. i do the trump like the catering hall guy, like this is fantastic, sum chew white house accommodations, the overly classy guy. look, i'm not saying i'm an impressionist, i'm off the cuff. don goes, yeah. >> "snl" has a history of poking fun at presidents. watch this. ♪ don't you forget about me, don't, don't, don't ♪ >> when you think of me, when you think of john mccain, think of me, george w. bush. think of this face. when you're in the voting booth, before you vote -- [ cheers and applause ] ♪ solid, solid as barack, that's this lead is ♪ >> oh, and mike, you're gonna do everything, right? >> yes, sir. >> so he took issue with "snl," said it was biased. does he need to light up. >> yeah, sure, of course. but i like the pence -- i feel like i was watching that sketch and i feel like it's going to be pence and trump, there's going to be two white houses and it's going to be a conflict, pence and like the, you know, the real republican like christian guys and trump is going to be like the midtown statown steak house fund party. i can't see him and pence getting along. >> you realize the midtown steak house hedge fund guys are -- i'm generalizing -- mostly rhinos, people call them rhinos, it's only because of the money, they're social liberals. >> there's going to be a clash in this white house between the mike pence and his way and the other guys. >> how do you think he'll do as president? are you rooting for him? >> of course i'm rooting for him. i want it to work. i've got the under. if i was a betting man, i don't know it's going to last. the easter egg hunt will probably be the meltdown. maybe around then but i'm hoping it works out great. >> it will be interesting to see the next four years. >> let's hope we don't break into eight countries. >> we're laughing and you have to laugh, that's part of it. zbllt yeah. >> i have to do this. you have a special called "colin quinn, the new yor story". >> oh, please don't strain yourself. >> it's based on your hit off broadway play and you reminisce about the new york city of your childhood. let's watch the clip. >> people of new york accuse you of information, like you owe them information. don't say excuse me. "where'd you get the ice cream?" like holy [ bleep ]. and then if you tell them, they want a review. "over there." "is it good?" [ laughter ] and if you say it's good you have to leave or they might come back like "where's that guy that said this was good?" [ laughter ] >> this is the part of thing -- i grew up in a red state and i've lived in the midwest and whatever and there's a certain -- sameness to it, every single day is sort of the same. new york city, you never know what's going to happen. no day is the same. >> yeah, probably because of the subway, you know what i mean? >> exactly. >> the subway makes it random and arbitrary and it's everybody packed together. but new york is getting like -- believe me, new york is starting to look like every place else. >> you think so? why? >> every corner is a bank then a drugstore then chain stores. there used to be never any chain stores in manhattan. there never used to be a t.g.i. friday's. in fact, the first one was in manhattan. there was no chain restaurants. >> i go through times square, what happened? >> perfect example. >> i like the old times square. like kid, don't look that way, you didn't know what you would see. >> now you can slide right by spider-man. >> what's your message to the american them? >> my message is we had a nice run, i'll see you whatever country you move to, man. >> colin, you're a mess, good luck, always a pleasure. >> happy this is. >> you, too. we're coming right back. they say donald trump's election victory is a big opportunity for them but is it time for the president-elect to shut down his neo-nazi supporters once and for all? donald trump tells the "new york times" he doesn't want white supremacists to be energized by his victory. here to discuss, charles blow, op-ed columnist for the "new york times," kayleigh mcenany, john phillips and bakari sellers. let's discuss this. we have more to discuss because we spent a lot of time on in the the show but donald trump says he didn't do anything to energize the white supremacists but his appeal to them goes back through his entire campaign. here's the chairman of the american nazi party speaking in september. >> now if trump does win it's going to be a real opportunity for people like white nationalists acting intelligencely to build upon that and to go and start. you know how you have the black political caucus and what not in congress and everything. start building on something like that. >> trump disavowed them, kayleigh, but can you deny that they -- not him -- are trying to build on his victory? >> well, look, you have elements of this racist nazi group that tried to build on the presidency of ronald reagan and they were slapped down as they should have been. you have people that -- from fringe groups on the left and right who will attempt to attach themselves to a presidency that is mainstream, we saw with hillary clinton, we saw the terrorist's father, the orlando terrorist's father showing up at her rally. you can't help who endorses you. you can help how you treat those endorsements and donald trump has repeatedly disavowed racism since he became president he's made four calls to unity and disavows of racist groups so that's all he can do. i understand my leftist friends would want the entirety of the donald trump presidency to consist of him standing on the roof top of donald trump tower saying "i disavow, i disavow, i disavow." >> should he give a speech in there was a lot of the vitriol in d.c. with this neo-nazi group that has rebranded itself as the alt-right. he appears to be outraged by many likes like "hamilton" and "sn "snl." should he be more fervent in his denouncing of them? should he get on twitter or give a speech instead of saying to a group like the "new york times" "i disavow." >> i think a unity speech would be very nice. one speech after his presidency just uniting the country, it was a divisive election. that would be a nice thing. >> charles. >> it was divisive because he made it divisive. it was divisive along racial and ethnic and religious lines because he made it divisive along racial, ethnic, and religious lines, when he says islam hates us, those are his words saying islam hates us. when he says words like "law and order" fanny lou hamer says black people know what white people mean when they say law and order. it's not that you're coming in to help and protect us, it's that you want to crack down on us. this idea -- this is not built out of nowhere. the idea this man would use racial division and ethnic division and religious division in order to become elected, he has -- he built this, right? he built that and he now has to make amends for that and you can't go -- i mean this thing when he came into the "new york times" building, i was getting out of here, i didn't want to be around that nonsense. that show was outrageous and ridiculous now all of a sudden you want to say "but i don't mean certain things that i said to get elected." that's a person who lacks morals who would do anything -- because all donald trump is about is self-aggrandizement and self-enrichment. donald trump is at the center of donald trump's universe and he used racism and bigotry and that's what he did. >> john? >> well, first of all, i love the fact that the nazi has very poor cell reception in his mother's basement and we're all fortunate for that. but, look, these guys are whack jobs, everyone hates them, donald trump has disavowed them and i love our system of federalism and a two-party government however when you have the two parties, the people on the fringes are going to attach themselves to one of the two parties, they'll attach themselves to candidates for public office to try to generate publicity. over in europe when they have the parliamentary system, the nuts have their own parties and they can go do their own thing and it's times like this that make me wish we had that system because that way these people would just go away. >> bakari? >> well, i think my colleagues on the right are missing this point somewhat. they're not attaching themselves to donald trump. in fact, donald trump has given them a vein or vessel to have this outlet. i think the prime example is we talk about alt-right and i hate that term, we need to call it white what it is, it's white nationalism, neo-naziism. donald trump took the founder of the web site who bred this and brought them into his white house. this is not attaching it to something, this is bringing it to where we live, bringing it to where we govern. that's first and foremost. and donald trump -- it's amazing how many people on the right, the only word they know is donald trump disavow. he disavowed. donald trump has tweeted ten times or more since he's been president about the media. he's tweeted four times or more about hamilton. he tweets about "snl." he does all of this stuff but if donald trump wants to get excited, in he wants to have fervor. if they wants to say that -- listen, kayleigh, talk to him, all i want him to say is look into a camera to the american public and say "racism, hate, xenophobia has no place in this country." because what's happening is this kissy foot that he's doing with white nationalists, with bigots, all it does is empower them and enrage and breeds more hate in this country. and until he stands up and becomes a leader, i guess we have to wait for him to january 20 for him to even act as if he's going to lead this country, we'll continue to be divided and fall apart. >> we'll be right back. . . and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't take otezla if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. otezla may increase the risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts, or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. side effects may include diarrhea, nausea, upper respiratory tract infection, and headache. tell your doctor about all the medicines you take, and if you're pregnant or planning to be. ask your dermatologist about otezla today. otezla. show more of you. it's how adventure begins. credit card. and with the miles you can earn, it's always taking you closer to your next unforgettable experience. become a cardmember and start enjoying benefits built to take you further... like group 1 boarding... and no foreign transaction fees. plus, when you fly on american airlines, your first checked bag fee is waived for you and up to four companions. every purchase with the citi® / aadvantage® platinum select takes you closer to adventure... whether it's somewhere you can see your breath, or a place that takes it away. apply today for a limited time offer and earn 50,000 aadvantage® bonus miles after spending $3,000 in purchases within the first 3 months. by using the citi® / aadvantage platinum select® card, you can begin to pack more into your adventure. become a cardmember to enjoy these benefits. apply today. visit citi.com/travel, or call 877-359-2290. explore your treatment options with specialists who treat only cancer. every stage... every day.... at cancer treatment centers of america. learn more at cancercenter.com/experts back now. let's talk now about cabinet appointments. kalee what are you hearing? heard newt gingrich arguing against this secretary of state appointment. >> if donald trump chooses mitt romney it means he chooses to accept the policy agenda. i agree though. he disagrees with everything trump stands forment i'm a proponent against rudy giuliani and think he exhibited strength against isis but if romney gets it, i trust the president-elect. >> urban development secretary. >> it's laughable. just last week his own adviser said he wasn't prepared to be cabinet secretary. >> he ran for president. >> ben carson is a man of many skills but not sure housing is where he needs to be. i will say this -- i hope he chooses mitt romney out of the choices but there's an interesting choice that he can and will make. nikki haley to be to the u.n., disagree with her on policies to the day i die but she's representative of this country. she's immigrant and story is passionate and true and speak to the world of what we represent as country even in this donald trump administration. that's my suggestion for u.n. ambassador. >> islam is a political ideology, it definitely hides behind this notion of it being a religion. it's like cancer. i've gone through cancer in my own life. it's like cancer and it's like a malignant cancer in this case and has metastasized. >> what do you make of it? >> what are you supposed to make of it? it's so outrageous. this is a thing that's important i can't get across enough. people of good faith have to develop a posture that allows you to have enough stamina to constantly say about people like flynn and lot of the people that donald trump is considering and donald trump himself, this is not okay, this is not who we are. that this man in donald trump and the people he's surrounding himself with so far are an affront to us, abomination to what i believe america is. that's not trying to convince voters they were right or wrong or bring somebody to kwur side or not. it's simply about saying i believe this is wrong. i have a moral responsibility to say that as often and loudly as i can possibly say that and never get tired. king said never grow weary. i will never grow weary of saying that's an abomination and outrage and fact that's part of the cabinet is abomination. >> i have a few seconds left. many watching, sour grapes? >> i literally don't care -- moral flaw is you're assuming i want to convince you. i have to live with myself and go to sleep saying i said the right thing. >> john, ten seconds. >> fantasy baseball pick. mitt romney for v.a. secretary. good at turning around underperforming properties. >> secretary of state? 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