Transcripts For CNNW CNN Tonight With Don Lemon 20160812 : c

Transcripts For CNNW CNN Tonight With Don Lemon 20160812

A draft is circulating among Top Republicans to divert dollars away from donald trump and move them towards vulnerable gop down ballot candidates and clintons email scandal, the newly released information shows scandal. Well talk about that tonight. I want to begin with jim acosta and chief political correspondent, dana bash. Good evening to both of you. Well start with you, down there in florida covering the trump campaign. Hes not backing down from his message clinton and president obama founded isis. Hes completely wrong. What is he saying tonight . Yeah, don, he quadrupled down on this you might say. He talked about it last night, this morning, this afternoon and he did it at this raleily outsi of orlando. He called president obama isis. Hes basing his argument on president obama, when he had the chance to leave a residual force in iraq he chose not to do that and because of that, a vacuum was create and isis filled that vacuum. The problem with that and don weve been pointing this out throughout the day is back in march of 2007 and 2008, donald trump told other news organizations the United States should just declare victory and get out of iraq. He was not advocating leaving a small residual force at that time and so basically what hes saying is not only false, but it raises the criticism that hes not really being honest with what he did back in 2007 and 2008. Heres how he put it at this rally in kissimmee, florida. Barack obama is the found founder hey, if he would have folks, we should have never been in iraq. We were going to destabilize the middle east. I said it, i was a civilian, nobody cares. I was a civilian. Nobody cares. We should have never been in, we should have understood it, they made a mistake. We should have never ended it the way we ended it. By ending at this time way he ended it and he got everybody out and he let them know when and were leaving, and they just sat back. They just sat back and they went in. And ill tell you what, barack obama, number one, is enco is incompetent, and number two, he is the founder in a true sense. If he would have stayed i didnt want to be there, but if he would have kept a relatively small force, he probably could have prevented isis from forming. Reporte reporter a couple things there, don. You heard donald trump say during that sound, he didnt want to be there in iraq. That is not something he said in the past. He said before the iraq war was launched in an interview with howard stern, he was giving sort of tepid support for lunching t launching the invasion in iraq and is open to some criticism, and we talked about before when president obama said to the new yorker, that he considered isis to be the jc tev team, so it do raise the issue once the president and you dont hear trump talking about what is fair game in going after the president on this issue and we should also point out, mike pence in this role of doing clean up after donald trump in recent days told a crowd today that he believes that the rest of the country knows what donald trump is talking about when he says that president obama is the founder of isis. He did not apologize for that either. And mike pence supported going into iraq and also the troops leaving, as well. So, jim, you also noticed something hanging a Confederate Flag he trump rally tonight. What exactly did you see . Reporter thats right. You know, this is not you and i covered a lot of campaigns over the years. This is something you dont see and you never want to see at a Political Campaign rally. There were three men this is before donald trump came out, as there were warm up speakers addressing the crowd, they hung up a Confederate Flag in the hall. It took a good 15 to 20 minutes for the Campaign Staffers who were here, sort of their jaws were dropping and sort of wondering what do we do about this. It took about 15 to 20 minutes for them along with local Law Enforcement officials to takedown that flag. It came down once and they put it up again and it was removed finally for the last time. Those men told our producers on the scene here they actually bought that Confederate Flag with the words 2016 on it, in the parking lot with a vendor onsite. What are vendors onsite at a trump rally outside of a donald trump rally doing selling Confederate Flags . That is not a question that we have an answer to at this point. But i will tell you, having covered a number of these rallies over the last several months, do you see Confederate Flags out in the parking lot of these rallies from time to time. There was an africanamerican couple who went up to these men and started taking issue rather loudly with the fact they were hanging this Confederate Flag here. It was interesting to see the local Law Enforcement officials removed that couple, that africanamerican couple, from the scene here when they were yelling at these individuals with the Confederate Flag. So it was a nasty scene that took place here for 15 to 20 minutes before it was finally removed once and for all. Donald trump, i dont think was the wiser. He did not even realize this was going on. He was backstage before you know, before the event and did not even know or at least did not indicate he knew this was going on, don. Oh, boy. To dana bash now, you have a lot of new reporting today about conversations between donald trump, and priebus. Remember when donald trump failed to endorse paul ryan in his gop contest . We reported the rnc pre, i was he had a broader conversation that donald trump needs to understand politics isnt always about fairness, he cant take it personally, and that if republicans criticized donald trump, like ryan and others did, about trumps controversial comments about the gold star paint pain parents, the kahns, they just think hes wrong. Im told that priebus explained to trump because hes the by at the top of the ticket, he needs to under thats okay because they kind of all need each other to win. And this is the kind of tough love i have been told for sometime that priebus plays with donald trump for the bet other part of the year, certainly during the primaries and even more so, especially after trump became the nominee, but its also clearly getting tougher, don, for him to play that role. And dana, tell us about this letter sent to the rnc, lets discuss this from some republicans who are suggesting that priebus stopped funding donald trump. Is that a possibility . The answer is probably no i should say that this letter is still being circulate as of earlier today. There was 75 people who have signed on. Were talking about mostly neverdonald trump republicans, former gop officials, hill staffers, asking priebus to shift Party Resources from the president ial race to congressional races to save gop majority. Ill read you part of that letter, quote, we being Donald Trumps divisiveness, and record breaking unpopularitiness, turning this into a democratic landslide and only a available rnc resources to vulner houable house resources will drown trump with an anchor around its neck. The sources im talking to are telling me about the rnc plans say is that priebus is not seriously considering that yet. And the reason for one thing s that at this point, hes not really sure it would even work, many Vulnerable Senate republicans especially are in president ial battleground states so theyre in explicably tied. I was told by a source couple sources actually, theyre going to watch this and if donald trump continues to go south when it comes to the polls they might try to figure out a way to shift some of those resources at least shift the focus rhitorically and otherwise. Its always something. Joining me is cory lewnedows, and political commentator. Good to have you both on. Cory, your former boss keeps saying president obama and Hillary Clinton founded isis. Watch this. Isis is honoring president obama. He is the founder of isis. Hes the founder of isis. He was the founder, absolutely the founder. In fact, he gets the in sports they have awards. He gets the most valuable player award, him and hillary. You said the president was the founder of isis, i know you he meant, he created the vacuum and founded the peace. He was the most valuable player. I give him the most valuable player award. I call president obama and Hillary Clinton the founders of isis. Theyre the founders. Barack obama and Hillary Clinton, these are the founders of isis. So cory, hes being roundly criticized by democrats and republicans, they say it makes him sound desperate. Why does he keep saying this . I think its very clear isis did not exist prior to this administration cory, let me stop you right there. Isis did start prior to this administration. Not not in a way that we have it today. Lets talk about the truth for a second, don. Let me cory the jv team is very different than what it is today. Cory, let me hear it. So in march, the isis was started, back in 2002 and also 2003 by zerkawi. President obama was not even president them. He was a state senator in illinois. Hillary clinton was not the secretary of state then. She was she was wrapping up her job as the senator in new york. It did not exist so how you can say they were the founder . Please go on. Dont tell the people a falsehood. What i said was what i said was if you look at where isis is today, and where they have come understand this administration. They went from the jv team to the new england patriots, to the world champions. They are the greatest at what they do, which is killing americans around the world because of the lack of administration put in place. Thats very clear. Okay. Hillary go ahead. President obama is fighting isis in four Different Countries today. What you have in donald trump and cory knows this is you have a guy who basically says whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear. He only goes into favorable audiences and when he does a new interview like he did with how hugh hueett, who tried to get him to talk about politics on the ground. He has no policy. He has no response. The fact is that donald trump, you know, called for the same withdrawal that barack obama actually executed from iraq and inde indeed, supported the original invasion of iraq. So we cant you know, thank god for cnn all day today, which is actually Holding Donald trump accountable in a way that other people dont seem to be able to. What he has to do is talk about what he would do different, how was he going to make a different choice than the president and the militarys currently making, which is doing everything they can to try and destroy isis. He doesnt have a policy answer. Okay. So all hes doing is sort of creating this trumped up, no pun intended, rhetoric about, you know, the president i want to read this that isnt true. And you can pick any fact check, okay . It says donald trump is pointing to the withdraw of troops under obama as a founder of isis, but experts say the expansion of isis at that point cannot be pinned on troop withdrawal if at all, cory and there is the fact george w. Bush signed the agreement and set the date for that withdrawal. It is a massively complex problem according to Foreign Policy experts at the Institute Research program and on and people who are expects in the middle east. It goes beyond one single policy decision about keeping or moving troops. Further more, trump himself supported withdrawing troops from iraq as early as 2007, telling our very own wolf blitzer on cnn in 2007 in an interview that u. S. Should declare victory and leave because ill tell thank you country is just going to get further bogged down. Roll the tape. How does the United States get out of this situation . Is there a way out . They get out, thats how they get out. Declare victory and leave, because ill tell you, this country is just going to get further bogged down. Theyre in a civil war over there, wolf. Theres nothing were going to be able to do with a civil war. They are in major civil war. So how can he keep blaming obama for that when he had the same position, cory . Is. He had that position in 2007, which is now nine years ago. It took the president until what did you say . Five years ago, until 2013 to withdraw the troops . 20011. So five years its taken. That was by the status i understand. For anyone to equivocate isis is not stronger than it is today is either naive or ignorant. Clearly theyre much stronger today than they were five years ago. Go ahead, hillary. Cory and donald trump think the American People are stupid. Theyre acting like the American People are stupid, thats why cory is on tv saying it, president obama is the founder of isis. The American People are not stupid. They under that this is not simple, that it is complex, that there is thousands of experts around the world trying to address this and yet donald trump wants everyone to think that all he needs to do is come in and set up some magic bomb thatll get rid of isis that. Is not the case and it is offensive and insulting that thats how hes treating it instead of the serious, thoughtful problem that it is. Cory the difference is donald trump was a private citizen and he was very clear and i guys continue to reference an interview from howard stern, which at best was a tepid response that said, its, lets go in and 24 hours after that 24 hours after that howard stern interview, donald trump said we should get out as far as possible. He was in favor in 2007, and what youre telling me is it took five years. Stop attacking the president. What is his solution . Stop attacking the president. Okay, hillary and cory, told on. Thousands were killed and trillions of dollars were spent. Lets talk at one time, cory. If were going into iraq, at least take the oil. We left the oil behind and isis continues to have that money from the oil fields. The reason i cut you off, cory is because i want to make this as clear as possible when you said 2000 whatever. I want the viewerton t to know facts. You mentioned the howard stern interview. This is again according to a number of fact checks, ill just read one of them, theres no evidence trump opposed the war in iraq before it marched march 19th, 2007. Despite his frequent claims to the contrary, trump expressed mild support in september 2002 in a radio interview with how howard stern. Its pointed to an interview in 2007 with neil necavuto, but trp took no position saying that only president bush should make a decision, either you attack or you dont attack. So were repeating Donald Trumps own words back to him and you are saying that donald trump didnt mean that when he said it back in 2007, 2011 and now today . What you said was mild support. Play the audio from the howard stern tape. When howard stern said do you think we should go into iraq, his response was, maybe, i dont know. And youre basing that entire story on his support of going into iraq. Im taking what year saying and im explaining it to the viewer. Well get the howard stern interview and well discuss that, as well. I need to take a break. Up next, trump refuses to change course for the rest of the campaign and he is hinting that what hes going to do if he loses in november, already. Running for president means staying in a Different Hotel every night. So i use the hotels. Com rewards program to earn free nights. Which i can use for my new friends here. Thanks, captain obvious. Youre welcome. Roger that, sir. My name isnt roger. Supported by hotels. Com. Hi. Hey. Youre that guy from verizon who switched to sprint. I used to ask if you could hear me now, but its 2016. And Sprints Network reliability is now within 1 of verizon. 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Donald trump not backing down from his claim that president obama and Hillary Clinton are founders of isis. Back with me now, corey lewandowski, and hillary rosee in. Do corey, we want to be fair. Heres this interview for howard stern. In favor of invading iraq . I dont know. I wish it was done the first time correctly. All right. So he was talking about back in the 90s. Theres the interview you were talking about. He wished it was done correctly in the 90s. Hardly an endorsement. I wish it was done correctly the first time. That is what the media storm is saying, donald trump was in favor of the iraq war. Its clearly not true. Yeah, i guess so is less than a stellar response and its someone whos saying clearly i dont believe it to be true. And you know, the media narrative continues to be donald trump has been in favor of the iraq war. If that is the audio which the media is perrpetuating, i think its a sham. His comments are so thing because his policy is thing. Hillary clinton has a fourpoint plan of what she will do to continue the war against isis. All donald trump has is a tagline against the president. If he were so focused on addressing isis, he would be spending his day talking about what he would do differently, but he and corey dont have a plan. They dont know what they would do. You know, he openly said hes getting his information about whats happening in the war from tv experts. Hes completely in curious about this. He doesnt have a plan. He has an attack against the president. Start talking about how

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