job apologize. you'll hear her response to that and other comments he made about the democratic front-runner tonight. we want to begin with the day in trump. hillary clinton was not the only object of trump's wrath tonight, though she was the recipient of some pretty off-color attacks. we'll get to that in a moment. he also had some choice words for reporters in the office talking about his new fan, vladimir putin of russia. >> no, no, think of it. it's russia, after all. somebody says, are you at all offended that he said nice things about you? i said no, no. and she said, oh, trump should have been much nastier. that's terrible. and then they said, you know, he's killed reporters. and i don't like that. by the way, i hate some of these people, but i would never kill them. i hate them. no, these people, honestly -- i'll be honest. i'll be honest. i would never kill them. i would never do that. let's see. no, i wouldn't. i would never kill them. but i do hate them. and some of them are such lying, disgusting people. it's true. >> all right. let's discuss all of this now. bob beckel, author of "i should be dead," katrina pearson, the national spokesperson for trump's campaign and republican strategist rick wilson. i think this is going to get our monday off to a bank, so to speak. donald trump was pretty bombastic tonight even though he was campaigning behind a merry christmas trump podium. how does this -- heading into this holiday season? >> it's the first time we've had a 12-year-old boy who has learned some dirty words and transgressive running for president. the guy is obviously playing this crowd dynamic that the more bombastic and more lunatic he sounds, the more they enjoy it. and the fact of the matter is, this is a guy who is a great showman and he's having a ball doing this. but, you know, to the 75% of the republicans who look had at this and think, dear god, how is this guy ahead? they're mortified by the fact that it's not presidential and that he is a guy who, you know, takes the first thing in his mind and it comes out. the guy is verbally incontinent. we've had this before. but he has no filter and he has no break and at some point, you want to be somebody who is not just saying whatever the hell you want to say off the top of your head. but, you know, he's a -- like i said, he's basically a 12-year-old boy running for president right now. >> katrina, rick is, i'm sure, referring to this at the moment where saturday night's debate where hillary clinton didn't make it back to break after a commercial break. >> i know where she went. it's disgusting. i don't want to talk about it. no, it's too disgusting. don't say it. we want to be very, very straight up, okay? but i thought that was -- wasn't that a weird dole? we're ready to start. they give her every benefit of the doubt because, you know, it's abc and she practically owns abc. she really does. >> so, katrina, why even say something like that? to rick's point, shouldn't he have some sort of filter when it comes to that thing? you're talking about someone going to the rest room. >> i think i've said this before. mr. trump is with his supporters. he is with them as he is one-on-one. when they're meeting with mr. trump and he's at these rallies, he's talking to them like he's sitting across from the kitchen table. let's compare that to the republican establishment, the republicans that don't stand up for themselves, that capitulate every time a democrat says boo. there is a reason donald trump has been winning this election cycle. it's because he's not the establishment that -- >> katrina, let's get back to the comment. stand by. i don't know in this in this -- and i'm going to ask you, do you guys talk that way at the kitchen table? my mom would smack the you know what out of me. or if i was on a date, i would -- >> nobody is going to admit it, don. >> well, do you? >> we've had some pretty intense conversations at my house, so yeah. >> okay. okay. so this one, here is another one. he also said that she got, quote, schlonged by obama in 2008. let's listen to this. >> let me just tell you. i may win, i may not win. hillary, that's not a president. she's not taking us -- everything that's been involved in hillary has been loss. even a race to obama, she was going to beat obama. i don't know who would be worse. i don't know. how does it get worse? but she was going to beat -- she was favored to win and she got schlonged. she lost. but i watched her the other night. it was hard because there were a lot of things on better and including reading books and reading financial papers, which i actually enjoy reading. >> katrina, was that off the the cuff? because schlonged usually means something else. >> i think he was meaning slug around, slung to the ground. >> oh, no, he does not, katrina. >> why don't you tell me what schlong means. >> katrina, donald trump's use of the word schlonged is once again proof that he's a 12-year-old boy. he's a man child disguised as a candidate. >> a man child that's beating all of your candidates. >> a comic routine. i know, katrina, you're uncomfortable with the fact that you guys are playing defense on this today, but here is the thing. i know you're probably happening talking about this than you are talking about the use of the nuclear weapons and a tactical -- i would love to talk about that, actually. can we talk about that? >> would you like to talk about the use of nuclear weapons and the policy -- >> lisp, guys, i control where the conversation goes here, so let's hang on a bit. we'll talk about nuclear weapons when we're ready to talk about it. right now, i want to discuss the comments made. bob, here is the interesting thing. you're sitting back with your arms crossed sitting here saying, well, is that what democrats are doing? here we go, hillary clinton saying we don't have to say anything, let them fight amongst themselves. >> this breaks my heart. i'm going to have to pick up the broken pieces of my heart and move on watching the republicans beat up on themselves. here is the reality of the situation. we've got about five weeks till iowa. trump's support in iowa -- and i was out there for three days -- he's got a lot of support, but there are people that don't normally go to caucuses and two web doesn't have an organization. he says he does, his people says he does and the fact of the matter is he doesn't. there are almost 1900 precincts out there. cruz does and cruz's support is rock solid. i think there may be a surprise in store for him. now, maybe there will be people that don't normally go to caucuses that will go out and sit there and wait to cast their votes. but my experience, and i've been out there six different presidential campaigns, i've never seen anything like it. maybe he can pull the it out, but i doubt it. >> katrina, let's talk about that. i'm sure you read the "new york times" report about donald trump not having the ground game in iowa, that he needs to get it together. it says mr. trump's iowa predicted he would recruit a leader for each of the state's 1600 presipths by november 1st. but instead, each precinct drew about 80 people with about 50 participating online. so is -- katrina, what does this say? do you think that the trump campaign can get it together in eye with? and what's going on there? >> oh, absolutely. there is a precinct capitalan in all 99 precincts. and bob is right, there are a lot of new caucus goers that will be showing up for mr. trump specifically. i'm not going to use the "new york times" as our source of intel, but there is a campaign in iowa and it is very strong. >> rick, for people who don't know really how important this is, i was an idea about having precinct leaders in iowa. >> i'll give you a shot. first of all, there are 99 counties in iowa. there are almost 1700, i guess, presipths, which -- and if you don't have somebody who is in charge of that precinct, who is going to be there when these voters show up, who is going to organize people to get them there, this is not like a primary where the polls are open from 7:00 in the morning until 8:00 at night. this is going at a particular hour at a particular time and you get in there and you take your vote. if you're not using to doing that and you don't have a history of being a caucus goer, that makes it more difficult to get in there. now, maybe the trump organization, i missed it when i was out there. i had a lot of experience and i couldn't find it. maybe in the next five weeks, you'll be able to put it together. that's what we're talking about here. 1700 caucus -- >> rick, not so fast. bloomberg news followed up with more than 100 people attending a trump event weekend and found half of them have caucused before, figuring if they've caucused before, they're more than likely to do it again. does that mean, do you think, donald trump can pull this off? >> well, i still think donald trump's campaign is primarily driven by earned media. we haven't seen in the campaign finance reports a lot of indicators or signals that they're investing the money on the ground in iowa. so like i said, it's sort of a black box at the moment as to whether or not there's something real there or whether or not this is another earned media stunt by the trump campaign that's not backed up by the actual boots on the ground. by all the reports i've heard from folks i know in iowa, they feel like the cruz organization is really working very hard on the ground and has a pretty deep bench of folks in the 99 counties and in the precincts. but i don't think you've seen 2 same sort of commitment in the counties from the trump folks, anecdotally or otherwise that indicates a real depth of organization there and you're not seeing it in the campaign finance reports, either, of them investing the actual time and money there. >> i want all of you to stick around, why donald trump is saying hillary clinton owes him an apology. plus, exploiting the anger felt by many blue collar workers. also ahead, international embarrassment, the wrong contestant is crowned miss universe 2015 on live television. oh, my gosh! when you've got a house full of guests on the way and a cold with sinus pressure, you need fast relief. alka-seltzer plus severe sinus congestion and cough liquid gels rush relief to your tough symptoms. to put you back in control. 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>> i didn't really want to push him in that direction. the i wanted him to talk in his own terms about what he thought was happening in america. and that in some ways i may represent change that worries them. >> is that the base he's talking about? i talk to a lot of people who like trump for a lot of different reasons. >> there are people who like trump for a lot of different reasons. it's clearly part of what the president men. there's some support in polls. if the president refers to blue collar men, for example, there are surveys suggesting trump gets more support among noncollege educated men than other voter groups. so there is some kind of overlap there. we could argue whether they're the exact same people. we could certainly argue about weather trump's support is all about race. and i don't think the president was arguing that trump's support is all about race, but he does argue that there are people, specifically his words, that are whipping up sentiments against him on issues about his religion, for example, or his purported religion or about his birth certificate, and it was his statement that this is about race. this is something he spoke about very carefully if he's been willing to speak about it all over the years, don. it's something that he clearly knows will trigger a reaction if he raises it at all. and even in this case, either because he's being cautious or because he's thinking about the dignity of his office, he didn't say people hate me because they're racist. he was talking about my unique demographic i believe is one of the terms he used to refer to the fact that he's an african-american. >> let's talk about security now and about foreign policy. he also asked the president about his isis strategy and he said it's important for americans to, quote, keep things in perspective. he also talk a swipe at us, the news media. watch this. >> what is the bub missing about your strategy? and i say that simply because according to polls, you don't have very much approval of it. >> i think that what's fair is post paris, you had a saturation of nugs about the horrible attack there. and, you know, isil combines viciousness with very savvy media operations. and as a consequence, if you've been watching television for the last month, all you've been seeing, all often hearing about is these guys with masks or black flags who were potentially coming to get you. >> so people will say that usually blaming the media, it has happened happens a lot, the liberal media on the conservative side, but this is a democrat and a liberal. he says the media coverage is raising public fears. what do you think about that? >> well, let's remember what he's saying is the media are overcovering a story, covering it too much. and we're on cnn, don, so we know this happens from time to time. it happens on np r from time to time. some time passes and you realize it's not so important. so it's not an outlandish idea he's putting out there. where he can be criticized is by saying the media are covering the story in the wrong way and by saying that i, the president of the united states have not done good enough job in explaining my side, he is side stepping substantive issues about his policy and whether it's working. i have a strategy, my strategy is going to work. i can tell the public doesn't buy it at this time, but that's because of a failure to explain it quite well enough and that's what i want to do a little better. in fairness also to the president, i want to say he's trying to make a complicated point. he is arguing this is a dangerous threat, but that there are many, many threats that the world faces and that the united states faces and you don't want to miss everything else because you're emphasizing that one thing a little much. >> he also spoke about political correctness and we'll talk about that a little later on this broadcast. thank you been. >> anytime don lemon asks, i have to come. >> thank you very much. merry christmas to you. up next, is donald trump exploiting the electorate or channeling a public feeling left behind by their leaders? 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>> i thought that was rich considering the president pretty much sectioned off everyone and placated to their victimhood and now he's placating the victim himself. we have this president who actually argued to issue drone strikes on u.s. citizens on oouz soil without due process, not to mention the irs targeting, all the things he promised he couldn't deliver and guess what? your health care premiums did go up. if american res afraid, it is not because of donald trump. >> rick, you're no fan of donald trump. where do you stand on this? >> well, look, the president has always been a product more of the most elite segment of society than he would like to admit. and, you know, he's a guy who came through elite prep schools and was treated with kid gloves his entire life. and so i don't think he's ever had a real connection to what's actually going on in america. i think the bitter clingers remark you reviewed with steve in innskeep is telling for president obama. he has never gotten what's happening in america. he's complaining about our fear of isis when he's more worried about the weather, about a terrorist group -- >> rick, i don't remember barack obama growing up with a silver spoon. a single mother and -- >> he went to one of the best prep schools in the country. he went to ivy league universities. this is a guy who had a pretty easy skate in his lifetime. this was not a guy living hand to mouth who dragged himself up out of the gutter. >> bob, the guy gets good grades and he gets to go to an elite prep school -- >> yeah, i'm not sure i misread the american dream there. obviously, he didn't come out of money. his mother and his father were divorced. he was living with his grandmother. >> the guy never -- the guy went through life as a fairley privileged guy from the moment -- >> i suppose you could say that about anybody that graduates from an ivy league school. but let's get back to the point here. is there anger in this country among blue collar workers known as the reagan democrats? yes. is it over the economy? yes, it is. is donald trump tapping into that? yes, it is. >> the only democrat, bob, and i'll let you finish who has ever been able to capitalize on that is bill clinton. how do you think hillary clinton is going to see with that? can she make headway? >> well, i don't know. i think that group is tough for the democrats to get back, quite frankly. we don't do well with white men somewhere around the upper 30s or 40%. so i don't think she's going to do that well with it. trump is most populist that goes along. pop the ewe limp is not new. it comes back to bryant and up to ross perot. it's something that when you know how to tap into it, and trump is good at doing that, you can get a lot of support in the polls. the question i've got is when it gets into presidential politics, it becomes an election-day issue. can you deliver your voters to the polls? some can't and some can't. so i am very suspicious about whether trump can convert this or not. but as i said, i'm one of those people that said right from the beginning, let's not write this guy off. this is a strange year and people are angry. >> this one is for you, katrina, and probably a home run for you. donald trump tonight also took on hillary's claim at the debate that isis is showing videos of donald trump to recruit. here is how trump responded. >> and you see hillary, did you watch that -- what happened to her? no, she's terrible. she's terrible. donald trump is on video and isis is using him on the video to recruit. and it turned out to be a lie. she's a liar. no, it turned out to be a lie. it turned out to be a lie. and the last person that she wants to run against is me, believe me. believe me. >> okay. so, katrina, just as there was no evidence of thousands of muslims in new jersey celebrating, there is no evidence that isis is using donald trump videos or sending them out to recruit. is this trump getting a dose of his own medicine and hillary clinton getting a dose of her own medicine saying, hey, listen, donald trump is doing these terrible things because she was upset when he said that. >> no, this is not the same thing. this was an actual observation mr. trump -- >> but there's no evidence of it. there's no evidence of either situation. >> i never happened, katrina. it never happened. >> it did happen. there was a report that came out today in new jersey talking about the same thing. >> did it say thousands and thousands? no, it did not. >> did it happen or did it not? rick, did it happen -- >> stop, you're embarrassing -- he said he saw thousands and thousands on television. that is the key fact, katrina. >> that is the key fact which is exactly what i said, rick. this is something that he recalled. hillary clinton made up -- she said that there is a video -- >> it's not the first time -- katrina, it's not the first time -- >> i'm sorry, this was my question. don, can i answer your question? >> one at a time. one at a time. >> it's the first time -- >> let her say her piece. >> it's not the first time, but that's my whole point, rick. hillary clinton made up the video about benghazi and didn't even bother to tell the american people about it until after it came out on its own. so, yes, mr. trump is asking for an apology because that is something that she didn't recall. she sat there and made it up. >> oh, my god -- >> okay, let him respond. i've got to go. but bob, we'll sit here and eat popcorn. >> you can say hillary clinton schlonged him on that video tonight. so he can respond in kind and -- >> i'll go make autopsy video tonight just to say i told you so. >> this has really gone -- thank you, guys. appreciate it. coming up, donald trump says he doesn't care about beam being politically correct and now president obama is weighing on the pc culture. is this something these two agree on? that's next. breaking news, a texas grand jury has decided not to return any indictments in the deaths of san ra bland, found hanging from a noose made from a plastic bag in her cell in a county jail. she was arrested after being stopped by an officer in july. police say she submitted suicide, but blain's family disputes that. college campuses used to be the last bastions of free speech. today, in the age of political correctness, many people that is no longer the case. here is what president barack obama told steve innskeep of npr. >> i do think that there have been times on college campuses where i get concerned that the unwillingness to hear other points of view can be as unhealthy on the left as on the right. feel free to disagree with somebody, but don't try to just shut them up. >> joining me now, john, linguistics professor at columbia university. this is the first time the president has spoken out about this. he's not such a fan of political correctness on college campuses. and you and i have talk about it. what is this that is going on? isn't it better, rather than shutting someone down, to listen what they have to say so then you learn how to argue against it? >> oh, no, don, not when it comes to racism is what people are thinking. they're thinking there's certain things that are off the table. and let's admit it, there are things off the table even if you're talking about free speech. we're not going to have a discussion about whether women should vote or genocide is good. these people are proposing that racism, and that which offends me, is the same sort of thing, that all of a sudden free speech doesn't matter because we're talking about something where all the talking has been done and, therefore, they feel like they're in the right to shut down any discussion. >> where does this come from? >> this starts, i think, with the interest in what's called microaggressions so what we used to call it's the little things, the racism that's little things that are annoying. that started being discussed extensively on college campuses about four years ago. add to that black lives matter and the protest model and you have a gain that makes a lot of students feel that what their job is to show that the campus is a very racist place and to show it in extremely uncompromising terms as if there were the same thing as people walking across a bridge in selma. >> you write about this, you said this last month in your article talking about microaggressions and all these protected safe spaces. you said too often the definition of microaggressions is so broad to condemn almost anything a white person does or says. it is forbidden to say that one who doesn't see color at all and to question a person of color's claim of being discriminated against, what begins as a plea for compassion becomes a kind of bullying. >> yeah. unfortunately, we have the kind of thing where it begin wes sense. there is such thing as a microaggression. i've felt them, i'm sure you have. when you get to the point you can define just about anything a white person says or does as a microaggression, what you're really doing is bullying out of a sense that somehow white people deserve this after all of these years of racism. and the problem is, it's not constructive. and it essentially creates strife because even the best minded of white people are going to push back against that. >> do you think that we're creating somehow -- she said we're creating a whole generation of winers are being raised where other opinions don't count except for your own raised where other opinions don't count except for your own? your own opinions are protected, but everything offends you? >> i think a great many people, probably the majority of people of color on a college campus are watching a lot of these things. some of them feel it's overblown. some of them aren't interested. but one is not to talk about that kind of thing, especially if one is a person of color. so the idea is this way of approaching these things has a place at the table and that's a problem because this place at the table is one from which people feel like they're being enlightened to tell everybody 20 shut up. >> you write in the piece and and you talk about james merit, you say none of these people have gone through an experience like a james meredith and certainly -- i was in the college in the 80s. >> me, too. >> and you would hear things. >> stuff happens. >> but it also gave you a backbone. >> yeah. i always kind of felt, boy, they sure are backwards. once i was at a bar, it was an open mike and a white woman got up and told a joke. she said what do you call 150 black people at the bottom of the ocean? a good start. and there were some scattered laughs. but i didn't walk out crying. i didn't write an editorial in the paper. i thought, poit boy, i am better than her and i still feel it now. i think all of us could benefit from some of that. now, i want to say not if it's a party where someone is standing at the door saying only white girls can come in. but i think a healthy human being learns to walk on, even if it has to do with racism. racism isn't different in that way. >> point taken the. let's talk about these place mats. i don't know if you've seen this. it's telling students how to talk about issues like black lives matter, syrian refugees. does this sound like, when you look at it, and when i have gone through it on this program, from the liberalists of liberals on the show to the most conservative, it all said this is ridiculous. what about you? >> it's very simple. with those place mats, if the idea is here is what you say that will transform a person's mind and show them that you're right, hopeless. that's now hot things issues. the issues of racism, 1kri78 nation, issues of donald trump are too complicated to deal with that. it seems like these place mats are designed for you to have this conversation and the racist uncle doesn't unand then you get to field superior because he's one of the people out there who just doesn't understand. we're not going to have a dialogue about whether or not we can can vote. we have gotten past that. race, however, is more complicated than that in many ways and the conversation will continue. >> this goes beyond black and white. oberlin, how does that fit into this? 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