feel pretty confident that i was about to have a rough couple of weeks. >> the dark days fighting for his life, recovery and what he thinks of the battle lines around quarantine. >> i think governor christie is playing politics an exclusive update on the 29-year-old woman who says she will end her own life before a brain tumor kills her. we have a whole lot to get to. i want to begin with ebola survivor, ashoka mukpo. as president barack obama pointed out earlier, he is part of an elite group. >> of the seven americans treated for ebola so far, most of them while serving in west africa, all seven have survived. >> it has been a long road for ashoka mukpo. how is he feeling? >> i'm feeling pretty good. i'm happy to be alive. i'm around family and friends. i'm back home. it is a good feeling to be where i am now considering where i have been. >> no long-term effects that you worry about, that they tell you about? >> it is impossible to tell. i think they tell me that i should be fine in a couple of months but there is not a large group of people they have studied and seen on a long-term basis. i think i should be fine. >> what happened when you first started feeling it? >> did you start to feel sluggish, what happened? >> i had been feeling fine all day. we worked a long schedule. we were a couple of hours outside of monrovia. i didn't notice anything. we went back to the hotel and got a late lunch. we started cutting film and the nbc crew asked me to go and interview someone with a different hotel. i got in the car and my back had this achy feeling to it. i think if this happened to anybody else in a normal situation, they wouldn't notices it. i had been so attuned to any tick in my body feeling off because of the fear of contracted the disease. i thought i should stop by my apartment and get my tripod and maybe i will take my temperature. >> and? >> and i went in and put the thermometer in my mouth and watch that led dial go from 99 to 100 and up through 100. my heart rate is going up as the number got up. i got to 101.3 and it started beeping. i took that out of my mouth and threw it down on the bed and started making phone calls. >> did you know? >> i knew, i knew. for me. there was actually no doubt, which is strange. people say it could be malaria, it could be typhoid. you don't know. for me, when i saw that thermometer bump up to 101.3 with no serious symptoms after that, i knew enough about ebola to feel confident i was about to have a rough couple of weeks. >> how did you get it? >> my feeling is that i touched an infected surface in one of the high-risk areas and didn't chlorinate fast enough before i rubbed my face or maybe the chlorine i stayed on my hands didn't get that particular place. i can't give a definitive answer to that. i don't know unfortunately. i wish i did. i could tell other journalists, look, make sure you don't do this. it is a bit of a mystery. >> i understand you talk a lot about the hysteria, unwanted hysteria, specially in the west and the u.s. about ebola. if you worked in those infected areas, you don't know how you got it. some of the health care workers are coming back saying, i was completely covered. i did everything. i don't know how i got it. can you understand some of the possible panic or concern is a better word, that people may have here? >> i absolutely understand the panic people have. it is a fair phiing illness. the prospect of getting it, i know more than anybody having woshed so close to the area where people were dying and contracting it myself, it is frightening. if we have fear not informed by facts, it can cause us to make bad decisions. all the health care workers and me as a journalist were around very, very sick people for very prolonged periods offer time. there would be seven, eight, nine days in a row where i would be going to places where there were people who had died or who were very close to it. it was not a situation where you had somebody who was 24 hours before a fever, which is what the circumstance with dr. spencer was. >> so you were around people who were very highly contagious? >> highly contagious. >> i want to continue on with that. there have been some developments as it comes to people being quarantined. let's talk about before we get there you have you being in isolation. for how long were you in isolation? >> two-and-a-half weeks. >> did it feel like for forever. >> yes. in some ways it went by quick. i slept a lot. i was trying to conserve my energy. anybody ha has been veryily, you go inside yourself. you sleep. you are conserving your energy. when you wake up, you are very vivid. your body almost goes into hibernation so your immune system can get strong. it felt like forever before i knew i was going to be okay. >> is there any way to describe what the illness feels like? what does it feel like, a flu? what does it do to your body? >> i want to find ways to help people understand it. it is like nothing that i had ever experienced. it was a bit like a flu in the sense that there was body aches and chills and fever and they were so much pronounced and so much more intense than anything you are likely to get with the flu. >> pain? >> there was pain, muscle pain, muscle aches, very high fever. i think at one point, my fever was at 104. i think the thing that was the most pronounced for me was the weakness, the physical weakness. i used to see people that would be laying in front of treatment centers trying to get admitted. they are laying out in the ground, in the sun, in the gravel. i thought, oh, my god, can't you sit up. once i was sick, i understood. to walk three feet feels like you just ran a marathon. >> you can't move? >> not very much. >> you are in isolation. can you even see the faces of the people treating you? >> you can see their eyes. >> and no human contact? >> of course not. >> you probably needing it the most then. >> people have asked me that about the human contact. i think i feel like, i don't know what human contact would have done for me. i needed my own strength so much that to be touched and cared for, i'm not even sure i would have wanted that. i know that sounds so strange to people. everybody would expect you want to hold someone's hand. i was so scared and so sick i think i needed to be in some kind of bubble. it was really disconcerting is the main thing. when somebody comes thaend look like that, you just think, it just throws you off. >> someone who is completely covered, basically, they are afraid of you. they don't want to get what you have? >> sure. >> in that moment, do you understand that? >> i could see the fear in their eyes. far more than the fear, i could see sympathy in every single caregiver. that's why i feel like they are so brave and such heroes. they are at risk. there is a moment where an msf doctor put an i.v. in my arm. ebola thins your blood out. i could see that they were afraid. they were willing to take that risk for me to help me survive. >> did you think you were going to die? >> i thought it was possible. i was realistic. i think being deceitful to yourself isn't helpful i absolutely thought there was a chance i wasn't going to make it. every time that thought would come up, i would fight against it. i am going to think positive. i am thinking about all the people who are sending good energy to me and praying for me right now, who are keeping me in their thoughts. i'm going to take that energy and i'm going to use it and i'm going to get better. i knew it might not go well. the worst thing for me, i would say, is just idea that i was going to leave some loved ones that i care about so much behind. i was afraid for my own death. i was also thinking if i have to do this to somebody i care about so much, to leave them. that's going to be hurting them. that was almost the worst feeling, the worst idea. >> ken brantly, you got a transfusion from him. how long did it take you to start feeling better? >> i'm sure that transfusion helped. >> i'm not a doctor. i don't know. i don't want to make these assertions that i couldn't back up scientifically. i felt that the transfusion was very difficult. i have never had a blood transfusion. my body was like, what's going on? i think the next day, i started to feel better. that was really when my eyes felt easier to see. my headache was less. i just felt like i had more energy. the doctor walked in and said, wow, you look better today. >> has anyone asked you for a transfusion? >> i can't give blood for another two weeks. my antibody count is not strong enough to be useful but i want to say that, you know, kent brantly is a hero of mine for what he did. i think that he had a role in saving my life. he has been so compassionate and willing to give his body to the care of others. i hope when my number gets called that i have that same courage. i know i will. >> we have much more to come from my interview with ashoka mukpo. and his reaction to the governor's quarantine to helt workers. >> it is my own view. i think governor christie is playing politics right now. uh, hi. i'm here to drop off my resume. password? i'm sorry, i'm just here to what's the password. uh,synergy? datafication! gamification! university of phoenix has had alumni at every fortune 100 company... ...so we can help open the door to your future. go to phoenix.edu to get started today. come on! let's hide in the attic. no. in the basement. why can't we just get in the running car? 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>> i had cnn in my hospital room. >> you did? >> i did. as much as when it would be a big issue around the nurses and thomas eric duncan's death. i had a bit of an interest in what was going on. i paid quite close attention to it. >> what did you think of public reaction? >> i thought that the public re, awas understandable in the sense that people tend to be afraid of the unknown. there are so many doctors that go into this disease being an unknown. it comes from a foreign couldn't interest i that people are afra afraid of. it can kill you in these gruesome ways. i felt like some of our public officials and representatives whose responsibility it would be to dampen that panic seemed to exploit it. some people in the media seemed to ride it. it felt like, this isn't helpful. we need to calm this down so we can put our attention back on bha is really important. >> how do you think our health officials and the administration handled the situation? >> i am not an expert but i think the cdc was criticized far too much. i think for a hospital like dallas to receive an ebola patient was something that we might say, hey, we are prepared for but i think, you know, mistakes happen the first time you confront something that you have never had experience with before. in my opinion, the cdc has been doing everything they can to keep people in this country safe. i think that there has been a little bit of political showmanship of trying to score points off of criticizing them without acknowledging the good job they have dune. >> you heard what happened in new york and new jersey about mandatory quarantines. new jersey governor is still sticking to his guns. kaci hickox who is a nurse says she is back in maine now. she says, you know what? i don't feel like i should be in quarantine. i am asymptomatic. this is in violation of my rights. she said she is going to do what she twoonwants to do. >> good for her. she has earned the right to have a sense of her own safety and her own risk factor to others. i don't think that doctor spencer is in danger anymore. my feeling is that, i'm not an expert but my own view on the exposure i have had to ebola. i think governor christie is playing politics right now. it seems to me it is an effort to work with public opinion rather than listen to the advice of the experts. i think it is counterproductive. these are people that have gone and endangered their lives to work with people with very limited resources and are dying in relatively large numbers. to make it more difficult and to treat them as if they are a potential problem as opposed to a public asset, i think it is a shame. i don't think it is the right way to act, personally. >> it has also been reported his reaction may have been because dr. nancy snyderman lives in new jersey, was supposed to be on voluntary quarantine. it didn't happen. it was mandatory quarantine. do you think that's a fair reaction from the governor nancy snyderman did? >> still. i support dr. snyderman. i understand people had questions about her coming back. to are me, i know that me and dr. snyderman were never within a three-foot space of each other. we didn't share anything. there were no objects that went back and forth. i was not heavily symptomatic until the next day. so it is not surprising to me that none of them got sick. i was concerned. i don't want to speak for her. i think she has been treated unfairly. to go back to the original point. in the united states of america, since the beginning of this skr crisis, there has not been one instance of a person sick with ebola passing it on to be is on the street. the only people an ebola patient has passed the disease to is health care workers, which is understandable give begun the intense contact, bodily fluids when they were sick. to start passing severe measures with no actual evidence that what they are supposed to prevent has happened yet doesn't seem to make sense to me. >> even now, you are aware of the hysteria, right? >> uh-huh. >> you wouldn't go to an event recently, a public event, why what was it? tell us. >> there ways kind of a jack owe lantern exhibition kind of thing. i was going to go with some friends of mine. we pulled up in the parking lot. there must have been 8,000, 9,000 people there. i am a little tentative. i don't know what the energy out there is going to be. even if people recognize me and they are happy to say, i saw you in the newspaper and i am so happy that you are alive. that's been the overwhelming sentiment i have gotten. i worry about making people uncomfortable. i think i need a couple of weeks out of the hospital to say, look, i've been fine for three weeks. >> you see what happened with the doctor in new york. the ebola stigma. is that fair to say? >> it is real in west africa. when you go he to liberia, people have a very hard time integrating back into their communities. i don't think on a fundamental level, we are all that different from west africans. people get afraid. sometimes people don't trust the science. they don't know the science. >> what do we need to know as americans about what's happening there? >> i think we need to know what's happening there is the greatest danger to us. the greatest danger to us isn't that somebody jumps on a flight and comes to america and starts some giant outbreak here. it is that this outbreak in west africa continues to get worse. more cases come up. that just heightens the risk not just to us but to the entire world. >> so your dad came to get you from the hospital and he flew back with you, right? >> uh-huh. >> your mom was waiting for you to get home. what was that moment like when you saw them? >> sweet, sweet, relief. for all of them. to be able to hug them and see my mom. there were moments i didn't know if that was actually going to happen. it was beautiful. >> when are you going back? >> to liberia? i have no immediate plans to go to liberia. i think for the benefit of my family's heart rates and health, i don't know if it would be any time soon. i'm never gonna say that i would never go back to liberia under the right circumstances but it would have to be the right circumstances. i love that country. >> what's the big lesson in this for you? what did you learn about yourself, about the world? >> i learned that i am an incredibly fortunate human being to have the kind of people in my network that i have. i learned that some things that we focus on that we think are important are actually not. the amount of people that reached out to me just made me realize how much love and compassion there is the world that we don't see, because it is under the surface. to reflect that for the rest of my life. on a level, i know that if i'm going to be in a situation that's dangerous, i am going to be three times more cautious than i was this time. i thought i was being safe. i thought i was taking precautions. next time, i'm going to put two pairs of boots on instead of one or whatever it is. life is very precious. you have to have a really good reason if you are going to put it at risk. next time, i think i'm going to be much more safe. >> next time. >> next time. >> if there is a next time. maybe i'll get a job working at a restaurant instead. we'll see. >> ashoka mukpo. thank you, sir. we wish you well. we wish you luck. >> much more ahead. a video of a woman being cat called as she walks the street of new york and goes viral. lots of strong opinions on that. plus, boxing legend, mike tyson. there he is. live in our studio. lots to talk to him about, including rising tensions in ferguson and more. the first look at a new video from britney maynard who explains why she plans to end her own life. we are dpg to talk about that next. financial noise financial noise financial noise i can... order safety goggles. play music for seedlings. post science fair projects. schedule guinea pig feedings. video chemical reactions. take pics of mr. bones. time the next launch. calm down principal jones. i can do all that with my android from tracfone. 90-day plans start as low as $20. unbeatable nationwide coverage. no contract. the samsung galaxy centura android smartphone. tracfone. do everything for less. the all-new mercedes-benz gla took nearly 600lbs of high- strength steel. setting industry-leading safety standards took 20,800 crash simulations. and perfecting its engine took over 1.1 million miles of extreme driving. but, this may be the most impressive number of all. introducing the all-new mercedes-benz gla. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing. it's a fresh approach on education-- superintendent of public instruction tom torlakson's blueprint for great schools. torlakson's blueprint outlines how investing in our schools will reduce class sizes, bring back music and art, and provide a well-rounded education. and torlakson's plan calls for more parental involvement. spending decisions about our education dollars should be made by parents and teachers, not by politicians. tell tom torlakson to keep fighting for a plan that invests in our public schools. brittany maynard has given us a first look at a new video that explains her decision to likely end her life. she calls for the passage of death with dignity laws. she has brain cancer and recently moved to oregon which permits doctors to prescribe medication so terminally ill patients can end their lives. she caused a stir when she revealed she planned to celebrate her husband's birthday this week and possibly end her life soon after if her condition does not improve. here is part of her new video. >> so if november 2nd comes along and i've passed, i hope my family is still proud of me and the choices i made and if november 2nd comes along and i'm still alive, i know that will still be moving forward as a family out of love for each other and not that the decision will come later. >> soy brittany maynard supports an organization called compassion and choses, which advocates end of life choices. barbara coombs lee is the president and also joining me philip johnson, a catholic sem nair yan that has terminal brain cancer. barbara, i am going to start with you. there is a lot of controversy about the november 1 date. the "people" magazine quotes her as saying, that is the day she plans to take her own life. she says she never chose a specific date. do you know what she is planning now? >> i think these dates are soft in people's minds. people know that there are certain symptoms that they would exhibit, certain places that they don't want to go that they consider worse than death. they don't know when they might be on the verge of that. they want to live life fully until they are on the verge of that and then they want the control to have a peaceful death and avoid the worse that their disease might have in store for them. it is a very individualized decision. watching her symptoms closely. she wants to cheat her cancer of the worst it would do for her. >> so you said these dates are in your estimation arbitrary. >> i wouldn't say arbitrary. i would say they are soft. people can't know for certain exactly when the symptoms will accelerate and escalate. they will start to experience things they consider worse than death, unbearable suffering. >> she also had a bucket list. last week, she visited the grand canyon. the last thing on her bucket list. how is she doing on that final trip? >> i think she did pretty well on that final trip. she didn't do any hiking, of course. it was a helicopter trip. she was extremely fatigued afterward. i think she reported after that, she had the worst seizure, the longest and most severe seizure she had ever had. that may have been the result of the exertion she had during the trip. >> this is what she says about how she is feeling. take a look. >> sometimes people look at me and they think, well, you don't look as sick as you say that you are. which hurts to hear. when i'm having a seizure and i can't speak afterwards, i certainly feel as sick as i am. >> that's what the public has really been reacting to. this is such an emotional thing. many people, most people, don't really understand it. i want to go to philip now. philip, you were diagnosed with an endurable brain cancer in 2008 at the age of just 24 years old. >> how long were you given to live? >> i was told that the median survival time for my tumor was about 18 months, maybe two years, if i'm lucky. they told me that my young age was in my favor, that i might live a little bit longer but as brittany said, when you are so young, even if somebody tells you you have a few years to live, it seems like you are going to die tomorrow. it is an upheaval in your whole life. it crushes all the plans that you had. >> you don't really agree with what she is doing but you, i'm sure you can obviously empathize here? >> oh, of course. that's the reason i reached out in the first place. i was almost in tears when i saw her video. i no i know what she is going through. that's the reason i wanted to reach out to her. a lot of the articles i have read are offering suggestions to her. as britney satany said, until ye been in my shoes, you can't understand what i am going through. since i was in her shoes, i am in her shoes, i could reach out and maybe offer a different perspective. >> i'm going to go real quickly. you said, dear brittany, our lives are worth living even with brain cancer. i agree her time is tough but her decision is anything but brave. why isn't she brave in your eyes? >> well, i think that suicide in itself, obviously, i'm catholic and i disagree with it. she is undergoing so much fear right now. as i wrote in my article, as i've been suffering, i have looked for any kind of way out of the suffering that i could find, whether temporary, any kind of temptations. i have a lot of friends with brain cancer that are getting addicted to alcohol. it is something you you just want to get away from, no matter what decision it is. no matter what it takes. i really think she shouldn't make this choice. >> she has decided to die on her own terms? >> i don't think so. i believe that god made us with human dignity. that human dignity continues whether or not we are alive and fully functioning or if some of our faculties are taken away or if we are laying in a hospital bed. i don't think that somehow my dignity when i am laying in my bed dying is less than it is right now. >> that is going to have to be the less word. philip johnson, barbara coombs, thank you very much. i appreciate you joining us here on cnn. >> why governor chris christie lost his cool and said this to someone in new jersey? >> so, listen, you want to have the conversation later, i'm happy to have it, buddy. until that time, sit down and shut up. 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the truth is, a couple weeks ago in boston, i was walking down the streets. i was with my 15-year-old and i noticed all of the guys checking her out, doing the toes to the head and craning the neck around to check out her fanny. she was mort phied, don. i may be okay with it, i may be okay with being able to defend myself. i may be able to deflect it. a lot of women aren't. it shouldn't be up to the women to have to feel okay or not. guys shouldn't be looking at women like they are a piece of meat. i realize your sex center in the brain as a dude is 2 1/2 times bigger than a woman's and you think about sex more than we do. >> no. >> but still. i understand what you are saying. this is when you are talking about a teenager, okay, that's wrong. but, you know, that's in a perfect world where guys aren't going to look at women. tara, you know, guys simply saying, how are you you feeling this morning? >> listen, i have mixed feelings about this. i understand. >> i do too. >> women, nobody wants to hear people making suggestive things to you or being harassed when you walk down the street. but that is this is something that you cannot, you are not dpg to be the thought police. what are we going to do about it? should we be teaching men to be more respectful to women. this is something, cat calling has been going on forever. it is probably the second oldest thing since prostitution. men are going to do this. it is a class issue. if you don't have class, you are going to act like that. organizations like this, there are much greater issues that affect women that people need to talk about. >> mark, go ahead. >> the life of the porn industry. >> go ahead, mark, before you head snaps off. >> i disagree with so much stuff there. first of all, i do think that it is not an issue of being the thought police. this is about what people say and do. it is not about what's in people's heads. it is about what's in their mouths and what they have to experience. the fact that men feel entitled to be able to say whatever they want to women, the fact this they feel entitled to be able to holler at a woman on the street. >> you think pop culture contributes to that, mark? come on. >> i don't think this panel is about that. i don't think anyone disputes that. >> for crying out loud. >> let me finish my point. i feel like we are just tearing down the straw. i agree pop culture and i think all cultures plays into it. it is a rape culture that says women and women's bodies are open to men for whatever they want it to be. that's what scares me. yes, it is old and long. patriarchky is long. we have to dismantle it. as our daughters, mothers and sisters, we have to walk down the street and be objective phied. >> do you feel that way about rap videos? let's be honest. you are being hyper. >> a man saying high beautiful, that's rape culture. come on, that's ridiculous. >> yes, i do think that rap music plays into this and single parent households. >> that was mark lamont hill saying that, people, not don lemon. >> give all of your hate messages to mark lamont hill on twitter and not don lemon. i have a bunch to get to. listen, a lot of people, a lot of women and guys say, cat call me, specially as i get older. i like it. >> as long as they don't touch. i feel like they are going to say whatever but it starts to get creepy if they touch you. >> if you want to engage somebody in a conversation, talk to them. don't talk about them. don't talk to a person like you are calling them like a cab for crying out loud. >> i want to talk about kaci hickox, who is a nurse quarantined up in maine. >> she feels she shouldn't be quarantined. here is what she had to say. >> it is not my intention to put anyone at risk. we have been in negotiations all day with the state of maine and trying to resolve this amicablely. they will not allow me to leave my house and have any interaction with the public, even though i am completely healthy and symptom-free. >> i have to give you more time. we have to go quickly on this. mel, what do you think? is she being selfish? >> first of all, don, for kent maine, rr.e.m. song you can't get there from here is written for that. it is one of the most northern points. there are two people that live there and she is living with both of them. it is a little crazy. she is trying to make a point, which is, fear ebola is out of control. she is not symptomatic. she has tested negative twice. >> i spoke with ashoka mukpo who had ebola and recovered. he agrees with you about the fear of ebola. there is also the optics of it and you have to be aware of how the public feels as well. he doesn't go to large things. i think she should be aware of that. i'm going to move on now. i want to talk about governor chris christie. he was in new jersey at the shore, down the shore on the second anniversary of superstorm sandy. when a protester today held up a sign that heckled him, he fired right back. i would be more than happy to have a debate with you any time you like, guy. somebody like you who doesn't know a dam thing about what you are talking about except to stand off and show off when the cameras are here. i have been here when the cameras aren't here, buddy and done the work. i have been here when the cameras aren't here and did the work. you want to have a conversation later, i'm happy to have it, buddy. until that time, sit down and shut up. >> why are you shaking your head? >> this is ridiculous and disturbing and disgusting. it is ironic that chris christie is talking about somebody playing to the cameras. what is he doing but playing to the political cheat seats. this is unacceptable for a leader. we have a right to protest and be ear dated like that. >> you don't have to be irritated like that. >> should a guy who has presidential inspirations do this? >> actually, that guy was doing more than holding a sign. he was verbally heckling him and yelling out and interrupting the governor while he was trying to speak. everyone knows how chris christie is. what did he expect? chris christie even said before that, listen, if you want to have that debate and continue on, things are going to get awfully interesting. he prefaced it. chris christie is brash. that's who he is. did he lose his temper, did he go a little too far? probably. >> yes. i paid for that microphone moment. >> he went a little too far but i get it. he was trying to speak. what are you going to do? 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