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Neighborhood neighborhoods. But this neighborhood right now is a ghost neighborhood. People are evacuated. All that is left of the firefighters and us. And this is what we have been doing all day. The hill top on top of san marcos, blazing for three hours, meeting with success and knocking it down. You still see the smoke and the blaze that was on top with surrounding homes. Many homes here in san marcos have been destroyed. Firefighters from all over Southern California are here on scene. The day started off where it appeared we were not going to have so much of a problem. The fires were much less than they were yesterday. But then around 12 noon we saw them pick up dramatically. We were in a place where we saw this socalled fire tornado. What they did is make the fire spread in literally seconds. We saw trees and foliage, over a short time here well zoom in. And you will see a house that burned to the ground. All you see is the foundation. And that is what people in this town of 83,000 people are dealing with. Theyre very scared. You move here and you know it is going to happen. But typically it doesnt happen until the middle of the supemme. Fire season doesnt usually start until later, but the winds have calmed down quite a bit and this is a crucial key moment right now. Right now the local time just after 6 00 p. M. , it is the beginning of the evening. By the time it gets dark fire decreases. And then tomorrow the temperature is supposed to be down about 10 degrees. Tomorrow in the 80s, higher humidity. And on the weekend, it is supposed to be upper 60s, low 70s, typical weather. The worst will be tonight. They hope by tomorrow it gets better. No one has been killed or seriously injured. Oh, thank goodness, given those hellish pictures, gary tuchman, thank you. And dedicating the memorial museum, president obama. Here, we tell their story. So that generations yet unborn will never forget. Some families resent the 24 admission fee and gift shop atop the remains of their loved ones, but the former mayor, rudy giuliani, says they got it right. And if anybody can put this in context, it is rick riley who will sit down tonight and make you laugh. And an incredible story of wrath and redemption, two brothers with the american dream, they went from selling crack to rhyming about it. Until one had a crisis of conscience, so who chooses the dark, and the light . It is a yarn i cant wait to share. And after years of cost, americas leaders presenting a building designed to make you weep. Heroes born, lives saved there, a somber dedication of the ceremony, taking place below the surface. Next week the public will be allowed to pay their respects to the 2,000 plus americans who lost their lives. And a man whose name is synonymous with that day, the new york mayor and president ial candida candidate, rudy giuliani. Thank you for joining us. Nice to be with you, thank you. Was there one issue, one piece of memorabilia, one sound that moved you more than any other . Well, the story that moved me more than any other was the gentleman who i introduced, who was saved after miraculously falling 30 stories, having been crushed. Because an alcove was around them they were saved. That was personal to me because i visited them minutes after they were saved at Bellevue Hospital and st. Vincents hospital. And i remember talking to them at a time and they were in an almost spiritual state when i talked to them in the hospital realizing that by the grace of god they had been carried down 20 or 30 stories. Didnt die, and then could have been crushed and were not. So that story, that story really has always meant a lot to me and getting me out of the bad feelings of september 11th. You say this museum moves you like few others. You walk out of there sort of emotionally drained. But there are family members, i mean, the wounds are still raw for so many folks who protest how it is done and what is there and the remains. Do you think that if they see it that will change . Or will that fight always go on . It is impossible when so many people are going through trauma of this nature, which is hard for anyone to understand if you have not been through it. It is the worst thing that could happen to you, put in big blaring lights in which youre expected to act in certain ways. So people are all going to react differently. It would have been impossible to come up with a museum that satisfied everyone. Yeah. I was not satisfied with the museum, but i was satisfied with 80 of the museum. And for me if i can get 80 that is a home run. What do you want more of . Oh, im not even going to talk about it. There were things i wanted it much bigger, i probably would have never wanted a tower there. I want the whole thing devoted to all of these people because i think these are the bravest people that you know have existed in the last 100 years. But what they had, this is as great a museum as i have ever been in. This is one of the Great American iconic destinations. I love that neighborhood. It is back, the tower is there. This is done. Twice as many people live there as before september 11th. I really want to kind of scream this out. Saying as many people live there as before september 11th. Because you know what it says to the terrorists . You failed. You completely failed. You were supposed to frighten these people away and it didnt work. Can we pivot the politics for a moment . If you want. The topic of the moment, karl rove. My friend karl and my friend hillary. And your theories about brain health going both ways, what do you think of the idea of him bringing it up . Was it a successful way to bring up legitimate questions about her office, or was it a mistake . Neither, i think it will pass away. Were so far away from the election this will all pass away. Look, her age will raise health questions, 67, 68, 89, going to be 71, 72 when she finishes. It raised it about ronald reagan, every time he ran, there was a question about his age. The first time he was about her age, second time, in the 70s, those issues were raised about john mccain, he had to put out analysis. So it is a legitimate issue but no more so than it was for them. I dont see it as a particular issue for hillary clinton. What about this new commission on benghazi. You have been a conservative hammer on this, krauthammerer thinks they should be talking about jobs, what do you believe . I rarely disagree with krauthammerer, with respect to politics, when we dont know the answer o but there have been seven reports. Well, there could be 100 reports and if you dont have the answer you got to have the answer. Sometimes it would take four or five years of investigating to get the answer. There were seven reports, committees with overlapping jurisdiction. A white house that did not cooperate. The last memo came out they were hiding a memo that was significantly relevant that was said on television. I happened to be on television with susan rice on that day, on your channel on cnn, with candy crowley. And when she said that i cant tell you what i said in the blue room. I think the green room, but you made it blue. Okay, i think it began with bs. Because it made no sense to me from the moment she said it. From the moment she said this was a spontaneous attack i said people dont have handheld mortars that they are lobbing into a compound, as part of a spontaneous attack. That is a planned attack, that is a terrorist attack, we had to have known about it in advance. And i believe it was a deception there, and now, i think it is a bad deception. Take a look at this list, paul ryan, mike huckabee, can you beat any of these guys . Theyre all friends of mine. Chris, i was there when he announced for governor. I just introduced jeb bush, he is a really good man. So you might enjoy running against them . Well, i ran against good men before. John mccain is one of my best friends, i ran against him. So youre open to running against them . I dont know if i am. Ill sit down with a bunch of them and ask them what they think and who is the best candidate. Right now for me as a republican, 2014 is the opportunity to try to have a republican senate, to try to straighten out some of the thing things that the president is doing to the country, some of them we cant straighten it out until we have a new president. When we come back, one of the best Sports Writers in the game, rick riley, and his farewell, why he is writing his obituary right now. I am totally blind. I began losing my sight to an eye disease when i was 10. But i learned to live with my blindness a long time ago. So i dont let my blindness get in the way of doing the things i love. But sometimes it feels like my body doesnt know the difference between day and night. I struggle to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. I found out this is called non24, a circadian rhythm disorder that affects up to 70 percent of people who are totally blind. Talk to your doctor about your symptoms, and learn about the link between non24 and blindness by calling 8448242424. Thats 8448242424 or visit your24info. Com today. Dont let non24 get in the way of your pursuit of happiness. Hey, razor. Check this out. Listen up, thunder dragons, its time to get a hotel. We can save big on killer hotels with priceline express deals. Somewhere with a Fitness Center . Hey you know what man, these guys aint no dragons. Theyre cool. These deals are legit. Yeah, were cool. Shes cool. Were cool. Im cool. Hey, isnt that razors old lady . Not anymore. Priceline savings without the bidding. Take it from a reformed local sports chip, there is nothing more crushing with a press pass around your neck, walking up to a childhood hero, and finds out he is a complete ass, and few have captured that more than rick riley, he made reading about sports more fun than a dubai expense account. I like it. His line. His latest book is tiger, meet my sister and other things i probably should not have said. And it starts with his very own obituary. Can i go to your funeral . Yeah, i wanted to write my own obit, because i didnt want anybody to screw it up. When the speech is gone, and monster trucks i got to drive a monster truck over six parked cars once and i just think you guys would love it. I can write your obit if you want. Really . What would you want your lead to be . Never met a beer i didnt like, women liked him more than he thought they did. I thought you were going to ask me about the title. I love the title, i want to save tiger for a moment. Lets start current and work back in time. Donald sterling, usa today reports he refuses to pay the 2 and a half million fine. He is rolling up his sleeves. I have known him since 1991. Whenever you shake his hand, you want to bathe in listerine, he is probably one of the worst people i have ever met. I had to cover a thing about one of his mistresses, where he proceeded to say where he had sex with her, all the places, she was like 22, he was like 60 then. I have done this story before. She showed me the nazi arm band, she said i dont like black people around because they steal from you. She ripped asian kids, i said i told you i have an asian kid, oh, not yours. So Donald Sterling is just marg schott with larger breasts. What about the incident . In 2014, were ready for this. Okay, some people were not quite ready for the kiss, there it is. But it was okay with me. But now im not happy with this decision to do a documentary, multipart documentary on oprah. Because how is that going to help him with the team . He said to us, i want to be a regular Football Player. I dont want to be a gay Football Player. I just want to be like everyone else. Well, everyone else is not going on oprah with a multipart. So then the agent, who by the way never represented a player in his life and is just out of college. He is a rookie, says today, well, were not going to shoot it in the practice facility or at games. Were not going to interview a Single Player or coach. Im like youre not going to get that much buzz out of the kissing, dude, you have to think of something else. Excuse me, guys, my producer from oprah is here, is not the most endearing sentence from a locker room. Aaron hernandez is indicted today. You can laugh at the florida kid cancelling crab legs, which the Surveillance Video of that came out. But double murder . Well, now he is indicted for two more murders today. This goes with the lloyd murder he was indicted before. That is three. But the most amazing thing about this is aaron hernandez, if were to believe the Police Killed two people. Then not long after signed a fiveyear 40 million extension. And then played 12 games, having killed two people. And even gave a quote which is now chilling as you read it. You can see it on the internet. As he was talking to reporters after signing this deal he said i just hope i continue to make the right choices and im around so that i can keep living the good life. Now, if he murdered two people within a month of saying that what sort of coldblooded person can do that . It gives me the goose bumps. But as for the guys who gave him the 40 mil, do you think that belichick or craft said hey, innocent until Proven Guilty . They had no idea. Do you think they knew they were signing a murderer . Well, that was before the suspicion came. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, he had had trouble in florida, there were suspicions he had been a bad dude, but in the nfl, you want people who are just going to rip peoples faces off. The problem with sports, we want them to just be animals inside the ring. Outside, oh, and it is very hard gentlemen and virgins. Now, this is like nothing i have ever seen. Right now there are just allegations, but they have a gun and that is not what they had with the previous murder allegations. Well, lets lighten things up with stolen crab legs then, lets cleanse our palate with that. Well, the video, did you see it . Yeah, i think we got it. He goes over to the seafood department. This is jameius winston, the quarterback who won the National Championship this year won the heisman. His response was, i didnt think it was so expensive. So shellfish there is winston with the 38 in crab legs that he didnt pay for and says he just forget to pay for them. There was the kid at yukon who said i go to bed hungry every night because the ncaa wont let me have a sandwich. That was actually a very cool thing he said. Of yukon. He said look, were only allowed to eat until seven, i got teenage boys, they ate until 11 00. So i think they have fixed that i am totally proud not for them to be paid because i think it is impossible for them to be paid with title nine. You pay a Football Player you definitely have to pay a football athlete. What im proud of is, theyre taking a very brave stance. If theyre hurt their freshman year, that is not covered. They have no say in all of these hours. There is almost no limit on how often these coaches can make them work. It is an eighthour job just playing basketball or football in division one. And then they got to get grades, they have no laugh. Lets take a break, when we come back, from tiger to lance. Ugh. Heartburn. Did someone say burn . Try alka seltzer reliefchews. They work just as fast and are proven to taste better than tums smoothies assorted fruit. Mmm. Amazing. Yeah, i get that a lot. Alka seltzer heartburn reliefchews. Enjoy the relief. No matter what kind of business you own, at t Business Experts can help keep it running. Seamlessly. So you can get back to what you love. When everyone and everything works together, business just sings. Yes or no . Did you ever take banned substances to enhance your cycling performance . Yes. Yes or no. Was one of those banned substance substances epo . Yes. Did you ever blood dope or use blood transfusions to enhance your cycling performance . Yes. Rick riley defended that man, lance armstrong, in his columns for 14 years, and after that incident he emailed you, sorry . 14 years he put egg on my face, and i would even ask him off the record, hey, just tell me off the record if youre doing this stuff. Because it keeps coming up. And every time he said dont worry, you can defend me. So i flew to his house, hoping to find him in a fetal position, he looked better than i have ever seen him. I said how do you look so good . He said im at the bottom, so relieved i dont have to tell this lie anymore, i said why did you lie to me for 14 years, i thought we were friends . He said i am sorry, if i tell you, the whole thing comes down. But still, it is not fair. Will he see redemption in his life time . Will people welcome him back in . Oh, yeah, i think so. You know what hurts him the most, he lost 60 or 70 million, when he got emotional, he is not allowed in the Cancer Community anymore. And he really did do so much for cancer patients, say what you want about him. But he did raise 5 million. And i sat with him about a dozen times when he typed out emails to people, when they were just diagnosed. I know he did a terrible thing and it really pissed me off. He ruined my representation in terms of bike reporting. But in some ways he did good things and can never go back. Where does the title come from, tiger, meet my sister . So on my laptop, i collect sayings, like tebo was so drunk last night. And shaquille, you shoot the technical. Tiger, i would like you to meet my sister, nobody is going to say that. Because do you really want him dating your sister . No, bigger jerk, Michael Jordan or barry bonds . Oh, bonds, times six, you know he wouldnt show up for the photo . They had to cyber him in. Players were not allowed near his corner of the locker room. He is just brutal. Didnt tip. And jordan. I covered him in chicago for three championships. Talk about a guy who wants to rip the jugular out of everything in his way. You saw it in the hall of fame acceptance speech. Which is the column i wrote about in the book. It is unbelievable, he sat up there and ripped everybody in the audience. His teammate from high school, you kept me from starting. Dean smith, his college coach, you wouldnt let me appear on the cover of Sports Illustrated. Pat riley, you wouldnt let me have lunch with barclay. I was like tell the story. When he is on doing ads he has his favorite cook doing the cinnamon rolls, but when he goes to shoot, he spits on all the rolls so nobody else can eat them. How bad do you want to win . But that is the thing, you act about big people acting small, small people acting big, what is one name . Chi johnson, in arizona, with down syndrome, the coach invited her to his lunch table every day with the cheerleaders and other players and he assigned one player to take her to each class. And when i surprised them in the cafeteria that day there she was. It was real. And now that he is on his mormon mission, his little brother is doing it. It is going to be a disney movie. I think it will be cool. And one of the things, if you learned about it with parenting, they will not remember if they won or lose, but the time they were in the dugout, when you who shot out of there knows. Tiger, meet my sister and other things i should have said. Rick riley, i cant believe youre retiring. It will be like barbara walters, it is all fake for the parties. When we come back, two stories, rap stardom made them millionaires. You have to watch them. [ female announcer ] theres a gap out there. Thats keeping you from the healthcare you deserve. At humana, we believe if healthcare changes, if it becomes simpler. If frustration and paperwork decrease. If grandparents get to live at home instead of in a home. The gap begins to close. So lets simplify things. Lets close the gap between people and care. Lets close the gap between people and care. Honestly, the offseason isnt ive got a lot to do. Thats why i got my surface. Its great for watching game film and drawing up plays. Its got onenote, so i can stay on top of my todo list, which has been absolutely absurd since the big game. With skype, its just really easy to stay in touch with the kids i work with. Alright, russell you are good to go alright, fellas. Alright, russ. Back to work take it on the way you always have. Live healthy and take one a day womens 50 . A complete multivitamin with 7 antioxidants to support cell health. Age . Who cares. And now a story about family and fame, rap music and crack cocaine. You can find plenty of critics who say rap is a scourge that only glamorousizes the city, and you can find others that say it works. Rappers tell their version over beats. But it is rare to find these two points of view in men born of the same blood. Once there were two brothers. Gene and terrence. And they were similar in every way. The pressure was it was about having things. It was about greed and drugs. It was about having money. Both had a skill for selling rock cocaine. I would come home like 700 at 15 . At 15. And both had had a skill for rapping about selling rock cocaine. And that combination made them millionaires. When did you know you had made it . Man, the mtv awards. Mtv, vmas. And we were featured on the song with justin timberlake, called i love you. I was wait a minute, i won the mtv awards, like people are calling me. Yeah, that was huge. Must have been high that night. I think about it too much, i might get high. I might get high right now. There are a lot of highs in this business. And one thing i come to find out is that youre always searching for that next high. But just as theyre about to explode into superstar status, one of the brothers made the stunning choice to walk away. And i came to him, i was like man, i got these ideas. I got these beats, i want you to check it out. He is like im not doing another album right now. Wow, now that was hard. That was hard. That is the house we grew up in right here. This right here . Yeah, it all began in this middle class neighborhood in Virginia Beach where they had a good childhood, loving mom and dad, nice pool out back. But a couple of neighborhoods over, friends were proving there was real money to be made. I mean, to see guys in high school with crazy cars and candy paint and it was just astonishing to me. I was like there is no way im going to know everybody and get money and theyre not going to get that. And when did you understand they were getting that money . Oh, instantly. Now, how did it work, what was the business, what was your job . It was all rock cocaine, crack . Im not comfortable with all that. Why not . You talk about it, it is plenty of testimony. Youre absolutely right, give me a second, im getting f flustered right now. I mean, why dance about it . Youre right, but this is cnn. But people have to appreciate the journey. I dont think youre going to get in trouble for talking about youthful indiscretions. Youre right, lets go, lets go. Bill weir, that is what is up. I mean, you know, speak the truth. What were you doing . Well, you know, just like any young kid growing up and especially in the hood, you know, just wanting to have money. I remember serving one of my people. And the kids were asking their mom for food. And she told them that she didnt have any money yet. I knew the transaction that we had just made. She was giving their food money to you . Yeah. She was. To buy a rock or two, right . Yeah, she absolutely was, she absolutely was. And you understood it . I understood it, what kept ringing in my head was theyre going to get it from somewhere, so i might as well be the one to get it. Because if i dont do it, somebody else is going to get that money. Did you ever get arrested . Never, never, never. Is that luck or smarts, or both . Man, i think it has a lot to do with smarts. Back yard to yard, i sell it im the neighborhood pusher, call me sub woofer gene would teach terrance how to teach their life outside them into rhymes and hooks, which eventually caught the attention of a man named pharrell. Pharrell made the suggestion, like yo, maybe i should be a group man, like that would be dope. You dont like writing three verses anyway. Dude would tell my brother that. So that split the work in half. So terrence became pusher t, and gene became malice, and quickly as clips, the first album huge. And soon they were opening all the big names. We did 50 cents, we did the black eyed peas, jayz, nellie, nerd. Kid on a securitier comes up to you says im a huge fan, turns out to be kanye west. Kanye west. For gene, the more they got, the emptier he felt. I was porsche, no shirt, big chain, pulling up at the light. You dont want your girl looking over me at the light. You dont want that. You know what im saying . And that is what people saw. But at the end of the day i personally felt misery. And when we come back ill tell you why malice felt so miserable. And the drastic steps he did to fix it and how that change fixed their fortunes for better and worse. Its the Little Things in life that make me smile. Spending the day with my niece. I dont use super poligrip for hold because my dentures fit well. Before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. Even wellfitting dentures let in food particles. Super poligrip is zinc free. With just a few dabs, its clinically proven to seal out more food particles so youre more comfortable and confident while you eat. So its not about keeping my dentures in, its about keeping the food particles out. [ charlie ] try zinc free super poligrip. I live in a world oi am totally blind. Ive been blind since birth. I lost my sight to eye disease. I lost my sight in afghanistan. And it doesnt hold me back. 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Try phillips fiber good gummies. Theyre delicious, and an excellent source of fiber to help support regularity. Wife mmmm husband these are good marge the tasty side of fiber. From phillips. Youre listening for opinions and what people think about, not with me, not with rapping. Like if you didnt like my rap, i thought something was wrong with you sn. As they move from pushing crack to selling rap, the Thornton Brothers were never short on selfconfidence, and as clips became the best selling act, the girls and the money should have been the spoils from their delicious talent. But for the other brother known as gene, known as malice, it just made him miserable. It was more than just feeling dirty about it, you wouldnt feel dirty for no reason. Through their rise, gene was married to his High School Sweetheart and caving to the temptations of the road filled him with fear and guilt that this lifestyle could kill him. So in a moment of despair he turned to his bible and rekindled his faith. Some people call it a come to jesus moment but this is a real transformation. When you think about my infidelities out on the road being a married man, when i think about the heartbreak that i caused my wife, that i caused myself. When i think about her forgiveness, how the word of god repaired us and nothing else. When i think about that, to me it is a nobrainer. I cant return to that lifestyle and that kind of way. I dont have a choice. But for clips, that choice could not have come at a worse time. The tenth anniversary of their first album was coming up. Fans wanted a tour. But malice told his little brother he couldnt rap about cocaine anymore. Couldnt spit curse words anymore. I want to say somewhere from 25 to 30 shows that people just who wanted us to do it. Come to the city. And perform the whole album in its entirety. And he was not interested. Hm. At all. So that is when i knew it was real. He picked jesus over you . Yes, he did. Yes, he did. And then kanye west picked him. His rap on the epic single runaway was part of a solo single career explosion, with all the perks. Is this what your closet looks like . For sure, my closet definitely looks like this. Hard core. Still, selling vintage still, like, i mean this right here 124 bucks . Somebody should rap about that. He has highend fashion boutiques and a clothing line. Young enough to still sell dope but old enough i know better. When they say 42 for the black powder i know better. When he is not appearing on the tonight show he is working as an investor. Were working on a sneaker movie. South by southwest, we love you. Every year we do something at south by southwest, there are tons of things. And i think being a bright businessman is like man, that is way cooler than any chain, way cooler than any watch or car. That reputation. For sure. Being on cnn. Way cooler listen to me, let me tell you something, being on cnn is way cooler than any watch. Any chain. Tell your friends. Any car. You know . That is true. But here is the uncomfortable question, could pushat have all of this without glamorizing the most destructive parts of america . Would he still be a hero if his name was not pusha. But there are kids growing up seeing your name was the american dream, part of the rise to power was dealing coke for a while, so he get that record contract. Right, right. But is that healthy . Sustainable for generation after generation . I personally, like, man, i came up on the same music. You know what im saying . I came up on the same music and can say to this day music has never made me do anything. Music itself has never made me do anything. I guess my point is if you had not dealt coke you probably wouldnt have this car. You wouldnt have your clothing line, right . That is part of the whole mystique. No, if i was not a great rapper, i wouldnt have this car and clothing line. Okay. Im a great rapper first. But when his brother looks back on the music and visits the spot they used to push crack, he has a much different take. I feel like hiphop personally is the only genre that eats its babies. Now, you can take a white kid or the white generation, theyre enjoying hiphop, eating it up and paying for it and loving it. But theyre not killing each other. He changed his stage name from malice to no malice. Now raps about redemption. Even hes not sure what to call this. Is it christian rap . Gospel . All i know is that my music that i put out, you know, it was just no cursing in it. You know. So i guess if i aint cursing or killing somebody, nobody wants to call it rap any more. Hey, we stumbled on something right there. But no denying, the crowds and paychecks are much smaller. Theres no temptation at all to get back out there . A quick reunion would be massive. The money you could make. Brother, brother. That money, that money at one time was out for my life. They cant invent a dollar amount to get me out there, to tell, look at whats at stake. I cant tell anybody anything about selling drugs any more. I cant even make it look cool any more. There are people that are dying. Look at whats going on in chicago. And like i said earlier, your race can enjoy it. And laugh and joke and enjoy it. And then get back it business. I have a message, and i have to share it. I have to share it. Then after that, you do what you want with it. You do what you want with it. But ive got enough blood on my hand, enough. What an amazing story. But do you have a hunch maybe deep down that the clips will get back together in some form some day . What would have to happen . I dont have a hunch, but i i hope and pray that that happens. I hope and pray that that happens. In one way and one way or another. Pusha t and no malice are still close but neither tried to convert the other to their point of view. I want to thank them both for their access and honesty. I would love to hear what you think about this piece and what other stories i should tell just like it. When we come back, the most entertaining political debate you will see all year, guaranteed. And now ive got to take more pills. Yup. Another pill stop. Can i get my aleve back yet . For my pain, i want my aleve. [ male announcer ] look for the easyopen red arthritis cap. Sea captain theres a narratorstorm cominhe storm narrator that whipped through the turbine which poured. Surplus energy into the plant which generously lowered its price and tipped off the house which used all that energy to stay warm through the storm. Chipmunk theres a bad storm comin narrator the internet of everything is changing how energy works. Is your Network Ready . Man we know when parents and teachers work together. Woman our schools get stronger. Man as superintendent of public education, thats been Tom Torlaksons approach. Woman torlakson has supported legislation to guarantee spending decisions about our education tax dollars are made by parents, teachers and the local community. And not by sacramento politicians. And we need to keep that legislation on track. Man so tell Tom Torlakson to keep fighting for local control of School Funding decisions. We are many months ray way from the mid terms. But when it comes to entertaining debates, i will bet you a mortgage payment, nothing will top what happened last night in boise. It started predictably enough with an Opening Statement by the incumbent, butch otter. We have a clear path before us, and im committed to following that path. Thank you, governor otter. Im russ fulcher, from a im a dairy farmer in meridian. To the credit of governor otter, he insisted all candidates get to debate. Including a gentleman named walt baiz. I stand on principles. I went to jail for homeschooling, and my kids turned out pretty good. Four sons that were rodeo cowboys and one daughter. Then, mr. Harley brown. You know, i was filling out my taxes a couple of months ago and i thought to myself, thank god we dont get all the government that we pay for. Anyhow, i got out of the service, and several years later, i was at the low point of my life. I mean, things were bad. And i cried out for god. I said, god, how about put me back on active duty and make meg a battalion commander. Long story, short, he said, no, son, i got a higher rank for you. Im making you commanderinchief. And i staggered on his promise. Ill get into that more with you. Dont think im crazy, because im not. No, no, no, we would never. Please, good on. I dont like political correctness. Can i say this . It sucks. Its bondage. And im about as politically correct as your proverbial terd in a punch bowl. That is when i knew this would be really good. They debated obama care, wolf hunting and gay marriage. Which seemed to form a consensus against. When you start redefining marriages, you start impacting other laws throughout the state. When you redefine marriage, you redefine the idea of family. And the man, the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another. Thats walt reading from a very, very tiny bible. And next up, harley punch bowl brown. Lets see where he comes down on gay marriage. I used to drive taxis in boise for 20 years at night. And i picked up my fair share of the gay community. And they have true love for one another. Im telling you, they love each other more than i love my motorcycle. And you know, they are just as american as a medal of honor winner. Did not see that coming. Bravo. You had your choice, folks. A cowboy, a biker, or a normal guy. Take your pick. Thank you very much. Were leaving it up to you. So there you go. We have a new version of the village people. And they live if idaho. Im bill weir, thats all for us tonight. Cnns special report with don lemon starts now. This is cnn breaking news. This is a cnn special report. Im don lemon. Breaking news on two big stories. There are reports from Sports Illustrated and from usa today that Donald Sterling through a new lawyer told the nba that he will not pay his fine, and he will sue. Plus, fires burning out of control in Southern California. Threatening homes and generating fire nados. Cnn is on the scene. First, we get to cnns gary tuchman. He is in san marcos, california where fierce files forced at least 23,000 people out of their homes. Gary, there are multipleou