Debate in flint, michigan. Plus this, bombshell evidence in the crime of the century. Where has the knife been for more than 20 years since the murders of Nicole Brown Simpson and ron goldman . Theres a lot to get to tonight as more voters cast their ballots in primaries and caucuses this weekend. Very timely, you got the debt of the day, right . Well, mitt romney has a lot to say these days. It has been an incredible 24 hours in the republican political race here. First donald trump was attacked by mitt romney. Then last nights debate hit a new low. Parents dont want their children to watch. You sat down with the governor and asked him about donald trump and the voters. Lets listen. Did Party Leaders looking back and yourself included misread their own voters in the Republican Base by betting on the fact that perhaps donald trump would simply implode of his own free will . Oh, i dont know about other people. I certainly paid attention to donald trump. I didnt expect him to do so well. But he has tapped into an anger, which is very much understood. What hes done with that anger, however, is not to build it into resolve and high purpose, but instead to take it down a very dark alley and that i think is unfortunate. I dont think you can write off any candidate. I thought jeb bush would do better than he did. I liked jeb a lot. Thought he would be able to gain momentum, that didnt happen. Donald trump has and at this stage we say all right, he could easily become the nominee, probably most likely to become the nominee at this point. Marco rubio in florida, ted cruz in ohio. When are you going to choose one . It depends in part on how the process continues. I expect that after march 15th it may be clearer who is going to be the, if you will, the person who opposes donald trump most effectively. And so i would anticipate endorsing at that time. But lets say all three are doing about the same. Then what . Well, then id probably again encourage whoever is doing best in a particular state to get the support there and do that state by state and that would lead to an open convention where youd see the delegates elected make the final decision. Reporter so this contested convention, is this a scenario that youre actively looking at . Oh, i think its a realistic scenario. A lot of people have thought that for some time. Reporter likely . Likely . You know, i think it more likely than not that we will have a nominee before the convention thats donald trump. He has a much stronger shot of getting the 1,237 delegates than not. But the debate last night was not good for donald trump. He showed that he cracks under pressure and i think that may begin to open the door for some people who are looking for a different path. Wow. Thats what mitt romney hopes, don, that people will look for a different path. But when i pressed him about whether he would allow his name to be put in nomination should there be this open convention, he said i dont even want to go there, i cant even talk about that, i dont want to go there. But, i mean, if hes out here and hes talking, i think if pressed enough, one never knows, right . Well, i think romney understands that hes probably not the best standard bearer right now. He would like to see one of these three guys its really, really late. And what a way to disenfranchise your voters. By the way, those primaries, never mind. You came out in record numbers for donald trump and suddenly were going to give you mitt romney or somebody new who hasnt been out there . I dont think so. Theres lots of concern in military circles after Donald Trumps comments about torture in the military and carrying out his orders. I want you to listen to what mitt romney had to say and well talk about it. I mean, last night when he said hes not just for waterboarding, which is illegal, but he want to do more than waterboardi waterboarding, which is torture and hes going to tell the troops to do it and theyre going to do it. The troops would be guilty of crimes and he would be guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors. Really . Hes saying things that get people excited but are detached from reality. Reporter cnn said he is now going for a general election should he become the nominee start raising money. He has criticized his opponents saying theyre raising money from folks and hes selffunding. Now we learn hes not really planning on selffunding. Hes only been loaning money to his campaign, which he can get back if hes the general election nominee. Its a form of hypocrisy that people will find shocking. Hes talking about war crimes in the first part of that, right . Yes. And, as you know, donald trump retracted what he said today at the debate because everybody he said, i do, however, understand that the United States is bound by laws and treaties and i will not order our military or other officials to violate those laws and will seek their advice on such matters. I will not order a military officer to disobey the law. It is clear that as president , i will be bound by laws just like all americans and i will meet those responsibilities. Thats different for donald trump. What he said at the debate is the military will do what i tell them to do. And there was an outpouring against this saying you cannot ask the military to break the law. They will not listen to you. Everybody from military officers, people like mitt romney, cia officials and veterans say you cant you cant do that. I had Jesse Ventura on last night who said the same thing, this is a war crime. If youre running for office and at a certain point this outpouring comes out, you have to kind of take a look at what you said. Nd i think thats what was discussed in the debate, which really was do you vet your ideas before you just put them out there . And thats what president ial candidates know that theyve got to do. These things have to be thought through and this one, even trump admits in his own way, really wasnt. Theres a lot of scrutiny on there. We did not call each other but great minds think alike. I know, i love your tie. Gloria borger, good to have you here. I want to turn now to tony perkins, president of the resource counsel. Good evening. You support ted cruz. Will he win in kansas, kentucky, maine or louisiana this weekend . Well, well see tomorrow night about this time tomorrow night, the returns will be back in. Hes doing very competitively in these states, my home state of louisiana, ive been campaigning for him tonight. Weve got a big rally in south louisiana. Its a capacity crowd. I think hes going to do well. We look at the delegate counts, he doing quite well. Hes less than 100 delegates behind donald trump and i think he is the best option if all this discussion about stopping donald trump, the best way is to rally around ted cruz. I must ask you about the debate last night. It was raucous and raw with talk of sexual prowess among other things. Does senator ted cruz think this is the best way to take on donald trump, to have a debate that hits such lows that people cant even watch with their own kids . Thats a really good point but most of that was between marco rubio and donald trump. I agree with you. Most of these debates at this point have lacked substance. Last night it looked like people on the schoolyard elbowing and pushing and shoving, though i will say that ted cruz, he came forth with casting visions on foreign policy, on the economy domestically. He stood out. I am very concerned. If you were to take a snapshot of these republican debates and a what it says about america, it is disheartening. I think the republicans have to do better than donald trump and marco rubio sparring back and forth with name calling and, i mean, it just unacceptable. Im sure youve heard this and you may have had the chance to listen to Gloria Borgers interview with mitt romney, he encouraging the candidates to get as many delegates as he can in order to deny trump. Does senator cruz agree with that . Hes going taught to get as many delegates as he can. Quite frankly, i think him coming out and attacking donald trump as he did, whether what he said or not is true and i think most of what he said is accurate or close to it, that actually helps donald trump because mitt romney is seen as part of the establishment. Look, people are angry. Theyre frustrated, theyre fearful of the future. Donald trump is saying things that people can connect with. Thats the reason youre seeing people turn out. Theyre frustrated with republicans who have overpromised and underperformed. The difference is ted cruz, we believe, is the solution to that problem. So ted cruz is now attacking trump largely on his record as well and his temperament bushes w but why did it take so long . Quite frankly, in my discussions with senator cruz, once i personally endorsed him, our discussion about casting a vision, to bring americans to that vision and lead them forward and not get involved in the name calling, the back and forth that really this campaign, this primary has become really at a low level. And he has for the most part stayed above that fray, which im very thankful for. There is clearly the room for and the need for to draw contrast between policies and, quite frankly, donald trump has not talked about policies at all. Its very shallow. He does not get very deep beyond the wall what hes going to do. I think its very important that americans have an understanding of the policy prescriptions that these candidates are presenting. We know politics is a really strange business, a strange profession. Given all the terrible things that cruz and rubio and others in the party say did donald trump, how can they still say theyre going to support him as a nominee . You know, it a great question. I mean, when all these things are said and done, i think the problem will be is that there will be a lot of conservatives, a lot of evangelicals in particular in the general election, if donald trump is the nominee, they wont vote for him. Thats not speculation, don. Thats based upon what happened in 2008 and 2012 hes getting a lot of support from evangelicals, though. Theres two aspect to that. One is evangelicals are not that much different than the rest of society when it comes to whats happening in the world around us. Many of them are being driven by fear, fear of whats happening in the world and frustration, as i mentioned earlier with the republicans. But the term evangelical, theres some elasticity to that term and its being used more broadly than i think historically it has been used. Reuters broke it down and those who attend church on a weekly basis and are very serious about their faith in terms of it guiding their lives, those more than not either went for ted cruz or ben carson in these elections up to this point. The good news is were seeing more people turn out and participate in the process. Ive got to go. Tony perkins, Family Research couns council. Good to see you, thanks. Sunday night beginning at 8 00 eastern. Up next on this broadcast, with all the insults and the name calling, did we learn anything at last nights gop debate . And did trumps opponents weaken him at all . Plus, what can be a bombshell in the crime of the century . 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Request did you give my campaign 100,000 . Its a minor civil case. Lying ted. Breathe, breathe. Can you do it. I know its hard. When theyre done with the yoga, can i answer a question . You cannot. People say everywhere i go, you seem to be an adult on the stage. Look at those hands, are they small hands. And he referred to my hands, if theyre small, Something Else must be small, i guarantee you theres no problem. I guarantee you. You said your friends found it uncomfortable and awkward to watch with some of their kids sp. Yeah. Is this the kind of gop that they want . I think some of the electorate likes it. Because john kasich is playing the nice guy and hes not doing very well. The republican brand, theyre losing some of what they have now and theyve been hurting in recent years because of this. It was basically an r rated republican debate. Remember all the talk, this is the party of family values. Thats where i think donald trump is going to pivot. After super tuesday, he had a president ial type of contest. His wife interestingly said to him beforehand, can you be more president ial like you were the other night. Carl, is it fair to call last night a bit of a pissing match . Thats a good description but i think theres something deeper. In december i said to you that trump was a crypto fascist. You looked at me and i think now we have seen the underlying seriousness of an almost fascist message of a major Republican Campaign in Trumps Campaign and we need to go back to that and why is that appealing to so Many Americans . This might be a teachable moment because if the Republican Party gives itself over to trump and his nationalistic, authoritarian message, we have gone somewhere in american politics where we have never been. We stopped fascism in world war ii and we are hearing a lot of that kind of message that is underneath what this campaign is all about and its astonishing to think that at a republican convention, that message could prevail. So then whats happening to the party of lincoln . Thats exactly right. What is happening to the party of lincoln . Partly it became the party of the southern strategy of Richard Nixon, that the democrats historically had been the party of segregation until the civil rights movement, it had been the democratic southern oligarchs who had pursued and perpetuated segregation in the south until the administration of jack kennedy and Lyndon Johnson and then as a tactics in the nixon administration, it was decided that the future of the Republican Party was partly about getting the votes of disaffected white southerners, and it has succeeded to a remarkable extent, thats not to say that many or all or most republicans are bigots or anything of the kind, but it has helped the Republican Party immeasurably and now it is time for the party, particularly after the kkk comments of donald trump and it not just about disavowel, trump has never said these people have no place in our politics and i condemn everything about what they believe and those who follow them. And he hasnt said it. So there is an onus on the Republican Party to go into that convention and say this is not us. But republican establishment had been calling him out on that particular message when it comes to the kkk. Nick, despite all the antics, all the candidates faced tough questions last night. I want to play another moment from the gop debate last night where trump was asked about his changing views. Watch this. Mr. Trump, one of the things that people love about you is they believe you tell it like it is. But time and time again in this campaign, you have actually told the voters one thing only to reverse yourself within weeks and even sometimes days. Weve teed up just three examples in a videotape similar to those we used with senator rubio and senator cruz in the last debate. The first is on whether the war in afghanistan was a mistake. Watch. What about in afghanistan . Do you believe that american boots should stay on the ground in afghanistan to stabilize the situation . We made a terrible mistake getting involved there in the first place. That thing will collapse about 2 seconds after they leave, just as i said that iraq was going to collapse after they leave. About afghanistan you said we made a terrible mistake getting involved getting there in the first place. We made a mistake going into iraq. Our question was about afghanistan. I never said that. Okay, wouldnt matter. I never said it. And there are many other examples. So how is any of this telling it like it is . I think you have to stay in afghanistan with the fact th