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rolls out his plan for dealing with illegal immigration next hour, but it's also facing pushback from congress. officials say the proposal focuses on border security infrastructure. it moves the country towards a merit--based immigration system that gives preferences to highly educated and highly skilled individuals. it does not address the plight of the so-called dreamers brought to the country illegally as children. white house correspondent abby philip is joining us now. abby, what's the goal here? is it to get something through congress, or is this about playing to the base? >> well, brianna, the white house would say that the objective here is to unify the republican party about something that they are for. there are a lot of people in the republican party who are against a lot of things as it relates to immigration, and as the president's senior adviser jared kushner has been working on this plan behind the scenes with several other officials, they have been trying to find things that everybody can basically agree on, but in the process they have also omitted some big issues like, for example, the dreamers, daca. they don't address that at all. they also don't address family separations at the border, and it's for that reason that a lot of people on capitol hill are saying i don't see how this can get anywhere because a lot of republicans and democrats won't sign and to a plan that won't address either of those two issues. one of those people was senator lindsey graham who basically said i don't think that this is designed to become law and here's white house press secretary sarah sanders' response to that. >> we think it's certainly designed to become law, and we think it should. that's why we put it out, and that's why we've spent a lot of time developing and making sure that this was something that could have buy-in from both sides and actually fix our system that hasn't been upgraded or touched in decades. >> so what happens next? the president is going to announce some principles inform plan this afternoon, but there's a real question about how much the white house is going to start to engage democrats in this and trying to perhaps gather a coalition around actual legislation. that remains to be seen. i think right now there's a lot of doubt on capitol hill that that's even possible given what we know about the plan so far. >> abby philip at the white house, thank you. the u.s. tensions over iran are building. president trump is meeting with switzerland's president in an effort to find some common ground with tehran. he expressed that sentiment just a moment ago. >> mr. president, are you going to war in iran? >> i hope not. >> the swiss have represented u.s. interests in iran since the revolution in 1979, and this comes as the "new york times" reports u.s. intelligence has photographs of missiles on small boats in the persian gulf that were loaded on board by iranian paramilitary forces. cnn first reported the existence of the missiles last week. intel officials tell "the times" that the missiles present a new kind of threat from iran, but how big of a threat? according to sources, president trump is becoming increasingly irritated with the perception that national security adviser john bolton is pushing him into war with iran, and this could be a political problem for the president breaking his pledge to withdraw military personnel from overseas and in this region specifically. we have cnn national security reporter kylie atwood and senator national security analyst peter bergen. kyle, what can you tell us about this disagreement between president trump and between john bolton hand also how this is affecting and shaping the policy? >> well, we're seeing it shape the policy even today, right, so sources are telling our whole team, those at the white house, that trump is increasingly frustrated and irritated by this perception that his national security team, john bolton, secretary of state mike pompeo, are drawing him into a stance with iran that could lead to war, provocation there, and that comes, as we've seen the state department said that the irdc is now a terrorist organization, bulking up the military presence in the region and doing a number of other things, you know, sanctions on iran month after month, week after week, but now trump is, according to our colleague kaitlan collins calling up his friends outside the white house and complaining about bolton. we're seeing a slight change just today. we see the president of the swiss federation meeting with president trump, essentially pushing back to what trump wants which is a more diplomatic approach to iran. we also have secretary pompeo who spoke over the phone with the sultan of oman who has been one of the countries that have provided a back channel for u.s./iran talks and iran is still saying there's no possibility of talking with the u.s. at this point. >> you've written this great op-ed for cnn.com, peter, if anyone wants to understand the kinds of advice and the origins of the advice that the president is getting from john bolton they just need to read what you wrote. john bolton is donald trump's war whisperer and you conclude the piece by saying that john bolton has sort of turned on its head advice that winston churchill would give, that to jaw-jaw is better than to war-war, that it's the flip. tell bus in a. >> look, john bolton has been calling for regime change in iran for decades, and, you know, it's like president trump knew this and has known this, so it's not really a surprise to the president that bolton is calling for these kind of military actions, but i think the context here is venezuela which basically was a fiasco, right, which bolton and others in the administration said, hey, we're going have a coup and we're going to get rid of maduro and it will all work out well and it didn't. trump is not somebody who naturally says the buck stops right here. he's usually looking for somebody to blame, and in the case of venezuela he's blaming pompeo and bolton for sort of getting ahead of their skis and basically the same issue but no with iran, and, of course, a war are iran would not be a cakewalk. it's a very large country, a big population, a lot of ballistic missiles. sure, we could do regime change and we've seen in afghanistan and afghanistan and libya, the day after is something we're not very good at. >> do experts who share your concerns about what a conflict with iran would look like, are they then encouraged that president trump may be calling up people outside of the white house as kylie is reporting and complaining about john bolton? >> trump has been very consistent, right, about this issue about, you know, these wars, he always says we lost-7 trillion. the wars in the middle east are a waste of time, so i -- he is the commander in chief. at the end of the day it's his orders, so my guess is that this will calm down because the american people also don't want another war in the middle east. i mean, there's no constituency for this. >> right. >> except in very limited circles. >> let's dig into the threat. so the intel which has now been declassified is these pictures of these missiles that have been put on small boats in the gulf. tell us why the u.s., kylie, reads that as so threatening. >> well, it means that they are closer to u.s. troops in the region, and the troops of u.s. allies in the region, so the u.s. is not sure what iran plans to do with these short range missiles that have been put on these boats. are they going to launch them from the boats. are they going to move them to land to then attack u.s. forces? they are not sure, but what they want to do is deter iran from doing anything with those short range missiles and so they are moving the muscular military approach there right now, and we'll have to see if they are successful in deterring iran from actually taking any action that our intelligence is picking up to be a possibility. >> kylie atwood, thank you so much. peter bergen, appreciate you being here as well. also at some point we'll get a peek into president trump's private portion and he's officially filed his financial disclosure form which will reveal that and when it's made public. it will tell us just how much money he's making off the presidency or potentially how much money he's lose off the presidency. here's what we learned from his last two files. we found out that he had made between $600 million and $$650 million campaigning for office in 2016, much of that income coming from mar-a-lago hand his private golf courses. we also found out that he was at least $311 million in debt. a year later we learned that he made significantly less after taking office. he brought in around $450 million, mar-a-lago and some of his golf courses also brought in less cash, but we saw a big boost in income from his new d.c. hotel, the one he often frequents for dinner. unfortunately, there's one thing that these forms are not going to tell us, and that's just how much the president pays in taxes. instead, trump is fighting tooth-and-nail to keep those records private. daniel dale is with us, a washington correspondent for "the toronto star." when you're looking and going to be looking through these documents and forms, what are you going to be looking to find? >> well, this is the first time that we're going to be able to use these norms to make a precise year-to-year comparison, so i think the key thing is how does how trump did in 2018 compare to how he did in 2017, particularly with regard to the properties? there have been some indications they are suffering because of the president's worsened reputation in some quarters, because of his presidency, so how is mar-a-lago doing in 2018 compared to 2017? how is the dural golf resource doing? we'll go property by property, but i think we have to emphasize how limited these forms are. not only will we not learn how much trump is paying in taxes, the figures are given in broad ranges. they allow trump to mix up revenue and profit so we won't get a good income figure so is there's a lot we won't know after today as well. >> we're hoping that they are numbers you can plot data points on a graph from year to year. >> yes. >> you mentioned doral, and we also understand that trump tower in new york is sort of losing its value as an asset. what is happening with that? >> well, we know that around the world, including my home city toronto, the president's name is being taken off properties because among many citizens of the world the president is not very popular. we know that he is also benefitting from his name though with some americans, too. you know, people who like to frequent his washington hotel because it says trump on it. so i think there's a mixed effect clearly from this polarizing presidency, and these forms will help us understand just how that's playing out. >> can it tell us anything about whether he has really stepped back from his businesses, or is it just -- is it too much to -- you can't really decouple that from the fact it has his name and it's his brand and clearly some luxury consumers are saying i don't want that. i don't want that trump branded thing. >> well, what it does tell us is the businesses that he has a stake in and it gives a range of values for the approximate worth of those particular stakes, but what it can't tell us is how much he's personally interacting with those businesses, so it might say he has a $10 million stake in such and such. it won't say is he calling up, you know, the chief operating officer of that business and making business decisions so we won't know how qualitatively the president is doing in business but we'll get a sense. >> we're fully prepared to look into these forms with you. cnn's erin burnett is investigating the president's finances in a new special report. don't miss "the trump family business" airing tomorrow night at 9:00 eastern. live from new york, it is the 23rd democrat to enter the presidential race, and this one is getting "the post" treatment, as you can see here, and president trump's new pardons show it's not about just who you know, it's about who you praise, and why prince harry and meghan markle were forced to leave their home. we're oscar mayer deli fresh and you may know us from... your very first sandwich, your mammoth masterpiece. and...whatever this was. because we make our meat with the good of the deli and no artificial preservatives. make every sandwich count with oscar mayer deli fresh. 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>> needed comedic relief. everyone is enjoying it a little babe at his experience but i think a lot of candidates were saying why not, and i think there's an answer to why not. the answer is it does define your brand. the infavorables go up. you have to think whether this is the right moment to go out and introduce yourself. you want that cabinet position and you want to run again in four to eight years. it's a reason why a lot of these 23 are running. it's not just the no-brainer jump in, and i think bill de-blowsio is showing that to people today. >> it is so hard to know what voters are going to want, and -- and we're going to find out because they have so many different options about, when you're talking about 23 people, it makes you wonder how many is too many? >> 23 is too many. >> it's like a clown car, right, but there's a lot of voters out thereto wondering why didn't we have more choices in 2016? >> well, brianna, you can answer that question, because you covered hillary clinton, if i recall. >> i did. >> and the field was cleared for her. i mean, there was nobody willing to take on the presumptive nominee. >> the money was -- she had all the money. >> everything. >> she had all the support and staff waiting to join. >> and look at the polling numbers and biden is about as far ahead as hillary was, but the field isn't clearing and that's the difference. it's not just the money and polling. biden is actually in a similar position, but there was this feeling in 2016 like i got this. >> do you think when -- with biden having this competition. we had valerie jarrett on yesterday and she's been talking to some of the candidates. she says not to clobber each other so hard that someone goes into the general in a weakened state but do you see this as helpful to a biden if he wants to take his poll numbers new and move forward and go the distance to have all of this competition, or is it not helpful to some of these bigger names? >> i think he's got to prove that he can win this. don't forget, he's never gotten out of iowa in the past and he's run a couple of times, and he's got to prove it, and a little bit of competition is healthy. i remember obama used to say that hillary clinton made him a better canned day, and i think that you saw kamala harris taking him on on the crime bill. they have a disagreement about whether it contributions to mass incarcerations. i don't think it hurts biden depending houn he answers the questions and how he competes. i think he's trying to remain above the fairway but at a certain point he has to encage. >> i think the other three, right now, if you were advising them, you would say position yourself as the alternative if and when he falls. you don't need to take him on right now. you don't need to muddy him up. let's see what happens after a debate or two. >> let's talk about pardons because the president has issued two more bards. the total now is ten and among the latest conservative activist conr and newspaper publisher conrad black. is the president using pardons to reward friends or even to send a message to people that he may be trying to influence saying these are the kinds of dlings and carrots i have available? >> this is clearly who he is. none of this is coming as a surprise to anyone and yes and yes and yes to whatever your third question would have been. statement. i think every republican strategist is probably cringing when they read headlines like that but if going change any votes in 2020? >> probably not. >> but the usual process, and we know all of this goes out the window with donald trump on everything is, you know, to go through the office of the pardon attorney at the department of justice which usually there's a five-year waiting period. they make recommendations. it goes on and on and on w.donald trump, well, he wrote this really nice book about about me or i saw someone talking about him on television and i know this guy, and usually you have to exhibit some kind of remorse if you're going to get a presidential pardon and conrad black has said i'm innocent from day one. there's no remorse and that's not required from donald trump. >> or a person representative of a group of people, the low-level drug offender that are particularly popular with his base and we've seen a couple of those. this also isn't that. >> sometimes pardons is thank-you notes it appears. sara iseger and gloria borger, thank you. >> coming up, two florida counties hacked in the 2016 election. a briefing on what was compromise. and in a trade war compromised by strong personalities a republican advisers enlists the help of two psychiatrists to evaluate both of these presidents. they really appreciate the military family and it really shows. with all that usaa offers why go with anybody else? 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>> well, it's really interesting. you can almost separate where the republicans on the hill are generally. you know capitol hill better than anyone. ideologically republicans are on the exact opposite side of the president when it comes as using tariffs as a tool to try to win trade battles, but as one republican told me earlier this week, helplessness. they have long ceded the trade powers to president trump. president trump has not been dissuaded on their concern about tariffs. i'm told by some republican aide, this is the issue, use tariffs coming up in private phone calls and meetings with the president has come up more than anything and the president feels deeply and strongly that this is the route to go. on china they have become more and more kohm calm to the idea that they are not going to dissuade the president from where he is and they need to stick behind him, particularly since they agree that china has been using unfair practices. on other trade issues, things like the national security and steel aluminum tariffs, tariffs on autos, those are issues they are more concerned about, but on china itself republicans, despite the fact that they are ideologically opposed to where the president has gone on this, seem to be sticking with him. brianna. >> phil mightily on the hill, thank you. and ahead. just as the white house refuses to sign on to an international pact to abolish online extremism, a cnn investigation finds an alarming look at hate speech upon social media and right now the democrats reading the entire mueller report unredacted and this as the attorney general said he isn't holding the attorney general back from testifying, so why isn't he? 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y'all don't have any suggestions for us? that's scary. >> sir, the -- sir, i would add -- >> we can't make policy without got advisement. >> therein lies one of the problems. the other is funding to fight home-grown radicalization. the counters extremism task force at the department of homeland security and the head led under president bush and obama and for a few months under president trump. >> there seems to be a decimation of people, resources and prioritization placed on the federal government programs, specifically at dhs that were aimed at addressing and intervening in the process of radicalization. >> reporter: dhs says there are tens of millions of dollars in funding to fight domestic terrorism. for the former office at dhs though, funding numbers show the budget dropped from more than $21 million in 2017 to 2.3 million in in 2019. ultimately investigators who look at hate say the trend of violence is being fueled online and more must be done to stop t.sara sidner, cnn, washington. >> an alarming revelation from florida's governor who says russians successfully hacked two florida counties during the florida election but he won't reveal which counts and before the birth of prince archie harry and meghan kept the duchess secluded during their pregnancy. we now know why they were forced to leave their home instead. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ applebee's new loaded fajitas. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. but dad, you've got allstate. with accident forgiveness they guarantee your rates won't go up just because of an accident. smart kid. indeed. are you in good hands? 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>> look, you can't have election controversy without florida. and the lawmakers are still not allowed to say which counties were breached. the circumstances or what exactly happened, there is a lot of information that the fbi said it is still classified. what we did learn in the briefing was that at least we know that the fbi contacted the counties, the florida counties affected that were targeted and that there was some back and forth with those counties about what was happening and two came back and said they noticed suspicious activity but as the governor said and as the lawmakers repeated, there is no evidence that any votes were changed, that the voting rules were tampered well -- tampered with at this point and the fbi is holding on to information and that is frustrating to the members of congress. >> is there a reason for them to not allow this to become public, which counties were hacked? >> they say -- the fbi said that essentially it is because these counties were victims and there is a rule that says you have to protect the identity of victims. but here is the deal, the bottom line as the editorial said in the sun sentinel, there is undermining the faith of the voters in the system, in the election results. this is exactly what the fbi was worried about. >> how do you know if you were a victim. if you are on the voter rolls. >> this is what they were worried about and concerned that essentially they would do the job of the russians by letting this stuff out. you could see where they're kind of caught in between the two places. >> the governor said -- you're hooked in on your microphone so we won't have you pick up the pen you dropped. the governor said votes were not manipulated but these were voter rolls. were the rolls manipulated? >> that is the key. they say they have no evidence of that but the fact is the russians got in and the concern is and even today the concern for the security officials, the intelligence officials is that now they've gotten in, they know the architecture of the system and they know how to get around. you could simply do this in a few places around the country and undermine faith in the system. and that is the concern going forward that just because they got in and they didn't do anything then, is it possible they could come back. >> and try to knock people off the voter rolls. >> exactly. that is the big concern. and i think that is -- that is why you see these members going out there today and speaking out. >> evan perez, thanks for that report. as the trade war with china intensifies, another real-world consequence, walmart is raising prices on american shoppers. plus a major cultural moment in america. starting tonight two of the biggest tv shows of the decade are coming to an end within days of each other. we call it the mother standard of care. it's something we take personally, and believe in passionately. it's the idea that if our mothers were diagnosed with cancer, how would we want them to be treated? 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