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that is one thing that we're talking about. and then we're watching close to see what chuck schumer thinks about the idea of having witnesses. we know that democrats have wanted to make this an expedited trial, they want to move quickly and not to take up so much time that it hinders the new president's legislative agenda. but it is an open question right now whether or not they're going to have witnesses. it is ultimately the decision of schumer but we could see a agreement between mcconnell and schumer to try to get bipartisans into the trial. >> it would be interesting if they didn't fight and get blocked for witnesses in the last trial. while i have you, because stimulus plan is clearly priority number one for president biden, without getting too deep into details or reconciliation, et cetera, but if 60 votes looks outside the realm of possibility here, how likely is it now that democrats proceed via reconciliation which would mean they would only need 51? or 50 really? >> reporter: yes. this is a 50/50 senate. you need the vice president to break the tie. but this is really a rare budget tool. if you remember, republicans did use it to pass their tax reform legislation and try to over turn obamacare. but they are talking about. it you heard john yarmouth said yesterday that they could move as soon as next week. we should say it is a lengthy process. just because you pass a budget bill doesn't mean you could turn around the next day and pass this massive covid relief package. >> lauren, thank you for all of that. let's turn to manu raju with more on this power sharing agreement between mcconnell and the democrats. it is so typical that both mcconnell and schumer claim victory in this. they each won but nothing changed. >> reporter: it is basically status quo. mitch mcconnell was trying to exert his rights as minority leader and it was a power play by the republican leader to try to make it clear, to have the democrats commit to never touching the filibuster which required 60 votes in the senate to overcome in the senate legislation. so that is a very powerful tool, long used by the minority. mitch mcconnell is the new minority leader said he would not agree to a power sharing deal until that actually -- agreement came from the democrats. but the democratic leader chuck she'ller never made that commitment. he said woe not agree. and moderate democratic senators who reiterated their view for months they oppose moving forward to gut the filibuster and mcconnell used that as a way to say that is good enough for me. that is significant because, well first of all, they don't have the votes to over come and change the filibuster rule. that is clear for sometime. and there is nothing written in stone. there are no written assurances that they would never change the rights of the minority to derail legislation but they could change minds as parties do that make the senate unique, the power to derail and stall and frustrate the majority. in the end mitch mcconnell agreed to let this go forward and now the end result is the senate could organize. the committees could run. and in the last week the republicans still controlled the committees because they are were last year's rules, and now they have the new rules and democrats could assume the chairmanships and things could function after the stalemate has been resolved. >> a good compromise is whether no one is satisfied. manu raju, thanks very much. and now to john harwood. so, john, tell us how the biden administration, how president biden views this power sharing deal when it comes to his legislative agenda? is there basically a shell life, right, for an attempt at a bipartisan agreement here, after which biden said i'm going to the reconciliation, we have to get this stuff passed. >> yes. and it is a short shelf life, gym. we're learning that first of all this is the starting gun for the process offing on that legislative package that the president is pursuing, yes he's going to try to get the ten republican votes he would need to make a fill -- to break a filibuster but that goal is left important to the biden white house than getting something close to the package this that he proposed. so when you have this power sharing agreement, bernie sanders takes over the chairmanship of the budget committee in the senate and he and john yarmouth will start moving budget resolutions. you have to pass a budget resoluti resolution before you could go to reconciliation and that is a process as lauren fox indicated that goes on for a number of weeks. but this white house, as i learned from outside allies, people on the hill and people within the administration, they are determined to pass a big package. they think they could hold their 50 democratic votes together to do that, tie broken by kamala harris. and not only that, they're going to turn around and do the exact same thing right after they pass the covid relief bill on an even larger bill than $1.9 trillion for infrastructure, perhaps even for health care. the bottom line that we're learning from the first week of the biden white house is there is going to be more change than we're used to seeing from congress and it is faster than we're used to seeing it. >> interesting. >> getting things done. john harwood, thanks very much. well there is new information today on the number of vaccines expected to be delivered and gotten into your arms across the country. >> so let's get to elizabeth cohen who has more. what are you learning. >> reporter: pfizer said they're going to be able to deliver 200 million doses two months early and that, poppy and jim, is because do you remember that whole story about how there was an extra dose in many of the vials. they were supposed to get a certain number but they get an extra dose. these things could happen. manufacturing is not always -- it doesn't always know exactly how much is going to end up and they ended one a little bit more. so this is good. more doses to go into arms. now that brings us to the distribution issue. are those doses getting into arms? as we all know that has been a struggle, poppy and jim. >> to say the least. let's hope this helps. thank you for that reporting. well international travelers coming into the united states have to follow a significant new rule. starting today, they need to provide a negative test within three days of even getting on the plane. >> yeah. and this is a step a country such as china has done for a number of months now. pete muntean is at washington dulles airport where many come into the u.s. and flying these days. so what do travelers need to know, what kind of proof do they need to present before getting on plane to the u.s.? >> reporter: jim, this is where international arrive at dulles after they clear customs but the new restrictions take effect well before they even get here. now, all international travelers coming into the united states, will have to show proof of a negative coronavirus test before they leave. they have to take the test within 72 hours of the start of their trip. it is really politics driving the policy here. the biden administration is ratcheting up restrictions on non-u.s. citizens coming into the u.s. from the u.k., much of europe and brazil and now south africa because of the any coronavirus strain. and it is those type of restrictions that the trump administration wanted to do away with. here is what the white house press secretary said about that. >> with the pandemic worsening and more contagious variants spreading, this isn't the time to be lifting restrictions on international travel. and in light of the contagious variant, b-1351, south africa has been added to the restricted list. >> reporter: now the state department is advising u.s. citizens that they should not travel internationally at all right now. dr. fauci said all of these new restrictions just show how seriously this new administration is taking the pandemic. jim and poppy. >> pete muntean, thank you. well soon senators will be sworn in as jurors for the second impeachment trial, a little over a year of former president trump. we're going to speak to one of the senators who will serve on that jury. also we'll talk more about this highly contagious covid strain now in about half of the states in this country. president biden raising the bar whether it comes to daily vaccinations during the first 100 days. dr. sanjay gupta is with us. and we'll take a closer look at the president's new executive action focusing on police reform and public housing. rance, here's one that'll really take you back. it's customized home insurance from liberty mutual! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ when you shop with wayfair, you spend less and get way more. so you can bring your vision to life. for small prices, you can build big dreams. spend less, get way more. shop everything home at wayfair today. use a single hr software? 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>> well, that will be up to the house managers. but i would assume that they would call some witnesses. at the end of the day there are many elements to what is being alleged that would have to be proven. i know that many people say, well we were all here, we were all eyewitnesses so to speak to what happened. but what preceded that day in terms of the attack on capitol, what was said, what was done, what was the organizing, those are all elements that i think may be very well worthy of witnesses as well as other information that has come out. so i will assume those managers will call some witnesses. >> how long should this trial be? y what is sufficient? what is too short, what is too long. >> i wouldn't put a numerical number of days on it. it should be a trial that provid provided justice to the defendant, president trump and the jurors and is donald trump guilty of inciting an insurrection against the united states. >> as you're speaking, i should note to viewers the senate majority leader speaking on the senate floor, chuck schumer. our colleague kaitlan collins had a moment with the president yesterday, asked him about the trial. he said the trial does have to go forward but he does not believe that 17 republicans will vote to convict. you've heard a number of republicans say similar publicly. i wonder, you speak to your republican colleagues, do you agree that that is a closed issue? >> well, it remains to be seen. i would just simply say that if the loyalty is to a party or an individual, versus to the constitution, then, yes, the answer will be no 17 republicans to join us with democrats on the question of impeachment. if the question is loyalty to the constitution and the oath that is taken, and you come to the determination that there was an incitement against the united states and therefore the president would be guilty, then there should be more than 17 republicans. and this is really beyond president trump. this goes to the question of any president that could usurp the powers that we have in our checks and balances of government and ultimately could incite an insurrection against the united states and get away with it. and that is the thing my republican colleagues will have to decide on. >> have you spoken to republican colleagues privately without breaking confidence who have told you they are open to voting to convict? >> yes. there have been some who have said they're open to convicted. we'll see. i mean, even the republican leader senator mcconnell has said the president is actually incited what happened on capitol. so if that is the case, then i assume that his comments would flow to a conviction. >> the president is eager to move forward with his proposed stimulus plan as is the senate leadership, the senate democratic leadership here. it does not appear you'll get to 60 votes necessary. if not, do you support moving the reconciliation where you would only need 50 votes plus the vice president to break the tie to pass major stimulus legislation? >> look, there is an absolute crying need in the country for the type of stimulus that president biden is speaking of. i have too many new jerseyans that are out of work and that feel that the knock on the door is their landlord trying to evict them and they feel that for the first time on their life are in a food line at a pretty and concerned about getting kids to school and that is replicated throughout the country. so we need to do what is necessary in order to get that relief to the states, to our people and to the country. >> i wonder if that were to happen, of course, president biden spoke very highly of bipartisanship here. if stimulus could not get through with a bipartisan vote, does reconciliation, do 50 votes become the norm for other parts of biden's agenda, including on immigration which is very high on your own list of priorities? >> well, look, reconciliation is not something that could be used all of the time and it has its rules. so at the end of the day, the question of stimulus, of trying to overcome covid, to get the vaccinations out there, and to get the economic relief out there, it is an imperative. my hope would be there could be a negotiation. i've negotiated with republicans both national security, foreign policy and even domestic issues. but if they are unwilling to, to not see the president succeed, the cost to the american people, then reconciliation needs to be seriously considered as the path way forward. seven are calling for an ethics probe into ted cruz and josh hawley for their role in the insurrection. they're alleged role in inciting the insurrection. do you support that ethics probe? >> well that is a question for the ethics committee to take up. several of my colleagues have made the decision to use that vehicle as a way to express their deep concerns about what senator cruz and hawley did. we'll see how the process plays out. >> but do you deep concerns and do you believe they should be sanctioned for it. >> i do have deep concerns about what they did. the process how that will be dealt with may not necessarily be the ethics committee. >> we appreciate you taking the time this morning. wish you luck. >> all of the best. we're going to talk ahead about the new much more contagious covid variant that is now in about half of u.s. states. this time from brazil. how concerned should you be? could vaccines completely protect against these variants? we'll talk to our dr. sanjay gupta ahead. ♪ ♪ ♪ rakuten! ♪ ♪ cash back on the stuff all in my home.♪ ♪ i shop on rakuten. rakuten!♪ well millions americans lost their livelihoods during the pandemic, many more added every day. but a new report says billionaires, however, have thriving. it said that the richest of the rich have seen their wealth grow by more than a trillion dollars during this period. >> matt eagan joins us with more. how is it possible that billionaires have gained that much wealth during this once in a century pandemic. i get people keeping their jobs and they could work virtually. but it is a staggering divide right now. >> it really is absolutely remarkable and i think it speaks to the unprecedented nature of the crisis. workers in restaurants and airlines and countless other industries are suffering, the housing market is booming and the stock market is on fire. the s&p 500 is flirting with record highs as we speak. u.s. billionaires are $1.1 trillion richer since mid-march. that is according to the new report published today by the institute for policy studies and americans for tax fairness. now there have been 46 billionaires during that time frame and billionaires now hold two-thirds more in wealth than the bottom half of the u.s. population. let that sink in for a moment. as i mentioned, the surging stock market is definitely playing a role here. look at wealth gains for tesla ceo elon musk and jeff bezos and mark zuckerberg, all of the companies have seen stock prices surge. meanwhile lower income americans are definitely worse off. economists are calculated that about 8 million americans have fallen into poverty since june. the poverty rate is up 2.4 percentage points over that time frame. for some context that is nearly twice the largest annual increase in poverty since the 1960s. minorities are getting hit particularly hard. the poverty rate for black americans is 5.4 percentage points higher than in june and that is 2.4 million people that have fallen in poverty. so clearly this pandemic is worsening what was an already an alarming equality problem. >> that's mazing. something i'm sure you'll keep following. >> thank you. big news on the vaccine front. pfizer ceo said because of the extra vaccine doses that were found in the vials, they'll be able to deliver their promise of 200 million doses to the united states two months earlier than previously expected. >> this is an johnson & johnson will release more by next week, to give a third option for vaccinations and president biden hopes the u.s. will soon be able to vaccinate 1.5 million people per day. joining us dr. sanjay gupta. so giving you a reality check here. it was a million a day and now 1.5 million. is it doable? >> i think it is doable. i mean, there is always caveats that come with this, the manufacturing capacity, will it keep up and will you have enough of the basic things like syringes and we've been reporting on this for sometime, looking at the chains of distribution including retail pharmacies if they have the support they need and the resources and the things i just mentioned, the capacity is potentially 100 million doses a month. and that is close to 3 million doses aday. so we will see. but there is clearly places around the country that are doing a pretty good job of this. west virginia for example, has administered 80% of the vaccines that they have received but nationally the average is around 55%. so they've got to make up that short gap by addressing those specific things. if they do, we should be able to get to, you know, maybe even higher numbers than 1.5 million per day. >> sanjay, there is a resident in minnesota who is now the first known case in the country of the variant spotted in brazil. why is that important and what do we know about this variant? >> well, it is really interesting. we've been keeping an eye on this area in the brazil, it is in the amazon. and one thing to know about this place is they have a significant outbreak last year. they thought that a significant percentage of the residents had contracted the infection. what they started to see was a resurgence of infections. now, that is important because if you have a lot of people who became infected, did they have some herd immunity, what was going on there, if they saw a resurgence and they saw two things. one is this the variant virus was certainly more transmissible, so there are people out there who were getting infected and a certain percentage of people who were become reinfected. so there is the concern. didn't mean they were getting sick or sicker or had a higher rate of dying but clearly the virus was still there. now you have a person that traveled back to minnesota from brazil on january 9th, got tested and they did the genetic sequences on this particular person because they came back from brazil and found, in fact, it was this variant known as the p-1 variant. it has mutations around it which makes it more easily getting into human cells which makes it more transmissible. but not evidence that it makes people sicker and there is not evidence that it won't be impacted by the vaccine but that is what they still have to test and figure out. >> so you have a few variants that may be more transmissible from brazil, from south africa, fro from the u.k. how do you explain what we're seeing in the big picture numbers, coming off the highs of new infections per day, coming off the high of hospitalizations per day. is there hope in those numbers? >> i think there is certainly hope in those numbers. i mean, we've been following the downward trend overall in cases and hospitalizations and hope that they continue. that is sort of what the model suggested, it ended early next month that we would start to see decreases in those numbers. i don't know, jim, you talk to people like mike osterholm and he'll say from the strains are this much more transmissible, 50% more transmissible, then they become the dominant strain in the country because they'll crowd out the other strains and more people will become infected. but i think the larger question is will that lead to more hospitalizations and deaths. we don't know the answer to that yet. i think what this says more than anything else, as everybody knows now, that the basic public health tool as comply and it is not just the amount of vaccine out there, it is the pace of the vaccines. because as the virus spreads more and more, it accumulates more and more mutations, most ever those mutations are random. really have no consequence. but every now and then you get a collection of mutations that will make it more transmissible. so we have to outpace the virus with the vaccine. not just in terms of numbers but in terms of speed. >> sanjay, finally regeneron just shared their data. they're saying their covid-19 antibody treatment, this is what the president got, right, former president trump, can prevent the disease. you could explain how that works because i would think that everyone would run to get that if they can't get a vaccine. >> right. so the way to think about these monoclonal antibody, you're giving the antibodies that the vaccine is coaxing your body to make. you're just given those antibody. they won't last as long as the one that the bod yes makes from the evacuation and you won't have the memory but you're essentially doing the same thing. it is an infusion. you have to go to the hospital and it has to be given early in the course of someone's illness, typically to someone who is high risk. so the scenario is this, i feel that good, i'm not that sick. should i go to the hospital and get an infusion of monoclonal antibody, will i qualify because of pre-existing illness, it is still confusing for people. but the idea that this is sort of a bridge to the vaccine, that it could serve as a sort of therapeutic as well as provide some immunity, i think it is real. we've seen this with other diseases. there is a fair amount of monoclonal antibody out there. supply has outpaced demand a bit with regard to thissa nond we have some better data in terms of how effective it could be. >> could you only get it in your sick? 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(giggling) today president biden is expected to sign another round of executive orders. this time focusing on racial equality, including creating a commission on policing and addressing prison reform and public housing. >> the president tweeted about this plan this morning saying, quote, america has never lived up to its founding promise of equality for all but we've never stopped trying. today i'll take action to advance racial equity and push us closer to that more perfect union we've strived to be. joining us now to discuss how gets there is charles ramsey, former philadelphia police commissioner, d.c. police commissioner, and cnn law enforcement analyst. thank you for taking the time this morning. >> it is quite all right. >> a lot of people hear commission, their eyes glaze over and say what is the heck is a commission going to do. from your per speculative could they make changes and actually make a difference? >> absolutely. in 2015 i had the honor of co-chairing president obama's task force on 21st century policing and in about a three-month period of time which we were given by the president to get a report on this desk, we came up with 59 recommendations and about 92 action steps, all concrete recommendations and action steps tor departments to be able to take and move toward reform. so it is absolutely possible. and needed. >> i'm, commissioner, a big believer that we believe more from our failures for sure and we foe the criticism that biden came under from the campaign and now his vice president, kpamala harris, in co-authoring the '94 crime bill and he said it was since a mistake. is that a useful lesson, the fact that he went through what he went through and wrote what he wrote is now in this position and how he should use that? >> it is useful. i mean, the '94 crime bill had inuntended consequences. we were in the middle of a crack war and shootings and everything and everybody was trying to get a handle on that. if you think back to those days. i was in the chicago police department at the time. which had more than its share of violence. so, but what they didn't anticipate is the impact on certain communities, particularly communities of color. that was an unintended consequence and so this time around will be taken into consideration. i think the report that we did will be an excellent blueprint to get the work started. but if i could add one thing, you have to go beyond just police reform. the first recommendation we made was for a look at the entire criminal justice system, not just police. and i still think that is important. >> what recommendations could you see in there and is that the right path or legislation, because after george floyd there was an attempt at bipartisan legislation and it failed in congress. congress if anything is more div divided than it was those months ago and is it the top path and if you pick the top recommendations, what would they be. >> first of all, i'm not in favor -- i think you need to be very careful when you use legislation. there may be some case where's that is appropriate but it is hard to undo you if you find out later it is having an impact that you didn't anticipate. i would like to see an outcome of a new commission would be setting up some national standards, particularly in the area of training, making sure that officers have adequate training and in terms of dealing with people going through a mental health crisis and fair and impartial policing, making sure that police are treating everybody fairly and equally and use of force is a huge issue that needs to be tackled and the only way you could get departments to really conform, you find a way to tie it to federal funding. otherwise, it is going to be one of those things where some will do it, some won't do it and you won't get very far. >> that's the stick in effect, beyond the carrot, to get the changes. >> not to mention parole reform, which is a big, big deal, too, that our van jones has done a lot of work on. you're right. commissioner, thank you. we'll have you back soon. >> okay, thank you. okay. coming up next, a proposal for a marshall plan for moms. paying mothers to stay home and raise kids. what do you think about it? a letter to president biden in "the new york times" this morning asking for it. the woman who penned the letter, the ceo of girls who code, joins us next. write your next adventure. handwriting recognition and the audi q3. lease or purchase a new audi suv and have your first month's payment covered. your journey requires liberty mutual. they customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. wow. that will save me lots of money. this game's boring. only pay for what you need. liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. this just into cnn, a source tells cnn that president biden is set to order a moratorium on new oil and gas leases on federal land. this is expected to headline the list of climate actions he will be announcing on wednesday. the halt on new leases would apply to federal land and water areas. it would not affect, though, existing leases. the moratorium expands the 60-day moratorium that biden signed on the first day if office on wednesday. all right, well the national women's law center finds more than 2 million women has left the work force and in december alone women left the work force as four times the rate of men and as for mothers, 42% of women with children under 2 years old left the work force. that gives you an idea of how bad this pandemic has been, particularly for women on the work front. and in today's "new york times" you will see this, it is a full page ad, it calls on biden administration to launch a marshal plan for moms that would pay moms, $2,400 a month because they're home raising children. i want to bring in the author of that letter, the woman who came up with this letter. she joins me now. and you have big names, activists tie anna burk, alyssa milano, so many names, eva longoria, signing it with you. make the case. what do you think should happen? >> look, as you mentioned, we have a national crisis. women's labor market participation is as it was in the 1980s. so we need a 360 plan to get mothers back to work. that includes basic income for moms, it includes childcare, paid leave, passing policies that we have been fighting for for decades. it includes a school reopening plan so kids could be back in school five days a week and making sure that we're retraining women with wall street and main street to get them back to work. we need a plan that is focused on getting women back to work. >> so the basic idea, so if i lost my job, and i was home with our children, your arguing for $2,400, i believe it is, a month to also help like childcare so i that woe train to get back into the work force, et cetera, is that right. >> if you ask why are women leaving. one, it is a childcare crisis. so when all of us found out we had to school our children, we cut back our hours and didn't raise our hand for that promotion and we got on food stamps and moved in with our parents and we've been taken the brunt of school closures. and covid has caused a crisis for hospitality, education, health care, many of these jobs, they're not coming back. and when this crisis started, women were over 50% of the labor market participation. it is going to take decades to get back there if we don't have a plan to get them back to work. >> okay, so two questions on the dad/men front. why not dads, too, and then all of the women, powerful big names, there are no men on here. is that st going to include dads too? >> when i started with girls who code, people said what about the boys. the reality is the economic crisis is changing mothers so we can't be afraid to call it a marshal plan for moms because that is what is being effected. and i'm by a big believer of dads, i have seen what is happening in my living room every single day. so dads, men, are welcome in this movement. we need you. >> let me ask you the devil's advocate question. critics who might be watching or people just watching and wondering, well, you have a child and you're making a choice, right. and does the government have the money to pay for this, should the government pay for it? what is your response to them? >> no women made a choice to stay home and take care of our children in this crisis. that choice was made for us. when they close schools and they calculated about hvac equipment or to support teachers, no one said what will happen to moms? it is not a choice. we're not america's social safety net. and as many of us have been essential le replacing paid labor for unpaid labor and nobody asked us. they put a zero value on our labor and it is time to put a value on it. this administration said in the first 100 days we're putting our values on line. the first value that we have to put up there is motherhood. >> i -- this year has given me a deep, even deeper more profound and admiration store stay at home parents. it is the hardest job you could do. so it has taught me a lot. i wonder, have you heard back from the biden administration on this? >> not yet. but we will. i know joe biden cares about mothers. this is an issue that he cares about personally. and so i have no doubt that this administration will do the right thing and put together a marshal plan for mothers, because if we don't, all of the work that we have done to fight for equity and equality, all of it is gone to waste and it is not just this administration, it is the private sector too. every ceo who is listening to this conversation right now, they need a plan about flexibility, retraining, where are they going to do to get back the women that they have lost. we have to toke us on this as a country. it is a national crisis. >> thank you very much for coming on. for making the case. good to have you. we'll follow it. and thanks to all of you for being with us. we'll see you tomorrow morning. i'm poppy harlow. >> and i'm jim sciutto. 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