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Beginning. A report this morning that doctors at a Major Hospital right here in new york city are being told to think very carefully about who does and does not get a ventilator. It is another symptom of a nationwide problem hospitals just dont have what they need. Yeah. Rationing, amazing were getting there. In cities across the country, Field Hospitals are now going operational because of the expected overflow at hospitals in Convention Centers, even in new york citys central park. And next hour the Navy Hospital ship comfort will take on its first noncoronavirus patients to help take the pressure off other new york hospitals. Cases are surging across the country, in new emerging hot spots. Three out of four americans now are under stay at home or shelter in place orders. And signs in california that the social distancing guidelines may be working. We have got a lot to get to this hour. All of us here doing our part. Lets begin in new york with cnn National Correspondent brynn gingras. Tell us what it is like in new york there. Just the scenes of seeing tents going up in central park to treat the affected. Just amazing. Yeah. It is just it is. It is amazing. Coronavirus is quite literally changing the landscape here in new york city. It is different. It is very different. Not only do we have a giant Military Hospital ship in our harbor, but we have tents up in central park, we also just got word, guys, that the u. S. Open where that is played that tennis center, thats also going to be transformed into a hospital with about 350 beds. Were also learning about fema working with the city to get 250 ambulances here and staff to deal with the surge. But let me talk about this hospital here behind me. In central park, a place where people usually are sunbathing, when it is warm out or exercising. Now it is a hospital from a Christian Group that came up here over the weekend and brought with them all these tents, 68 beds will be able to be utilized by Covid Patients and were hearing patients will be coming today and could be coming from any of the five boroughs in new york city. And there will also be icu units inside those hospital tents as well. So, again, just another measure that is being taken to help with the surge. I should mention, even with all this help that were seeing here in new york city, the governor saying we still need more help. Actually putting out a plea yesterday saying anyone who can give, you know, their expertise to come to new york city, we need your help and we will repay you by sending our people to you should you need it. So that is a situation that continues to be the case here in new york city. Truly wanting to Work Together across state lines, brynn, thank you for that reporting. Just remarkable to see those that park, you know, we run in it families take their kids there, it is now a makeshift hospital. It is incredible. It shows too how people are contributing, right . Thats a Christian Group there, we have individuals, of course, families doing their part by staying at home. There is a National Effort to come together and respond. Youre so right. All right, lets talk about another city dealing with the surge, ryan young joins us in detroit. Just, you know, it seems like overnight it has been the past few days, weeks, that michigan has been hit so hard, specifically detroit. Yes. So tough too you hear the numbers. Yesterday, the number that stuck out to me was over 1800 new cases in the last two days, that was yesterday. Look, guys, ive been across the country. What you see is this eerie silence that sits over a city once they figure out they may be the next hot spot. That is happening here. There is no traffic anywhere around the city now. It seems like everybody is taking that shelter in place quite seriously. Look behind me this is the tcf center, where the world famous auto show would be held. Thats been canceled. What will happen here, this will be transformed into a Field Hospital with some 900 extra beds. Theyre getting ready for the capacity. What were told, theyre going to split the patients in severity so there will be the worse on one side and people who have covid19 in another place. But we talked to an emergency room nurse this morning, who is telling us how difficult this has been, especially when it comes to the families. Wanting to talk with their family members to discuss and the involving the patients families in the discussion. But, you know, theyre alone. And thats heart breaking to us because we know how important it is to have family around. Reporter real quick here, poppy and jim, just to think about this and the impact it is having in this area, look, in michigan over 180 people have died so far. And the superintendent of schools here in detroit put a tweet out that really sums things up. Two employees died and three parents died and that was yesterday. The numbers are probably going to get worse today. It is really difficult here. Yeah. More and more i think, you know, ryan and poppy, people like us, we know people who have been affected by it and thats going to happen to more and more americans. Ryan young in chicago, in detroit, thank you very much. Now to new orleans, another city affected by this confirmed cases soaring as hospitals brace now to potentially run out of ventilators and other equipment, by this weekend. Joining us now is colin arnold director of new Orleans Office of Homeland Security and emergency preparedness. Good to have you back. I thank folks like you. I know youre taking time out of your day, you got a lot on your plate, to help get information out. When we spoke last week, you said that this outbreak will be the defining crisis of our generation. In the last week, what have you seen on the ground there that has brought that home to you. Well, thanks for having me, good morning. New orleans and louisiana in general continue to see very high rates of infection and deaths. Right now were at 1480 cases. 86 deaths and were a community of 400,000. So were tracking at about 5 on the mortality rate and it is just thats high. And our population has a higher rate of Underlying Health conditions, were preparing for a significant amount of hospitalizations and unfortunately it is, of course a significant amount of deaths. Horrible news and horrible to see when these hot spots emerge. I wonder what you think about some of the action taken, for example, by the governor yesterday, in kentucky. With a strict order it bars basically almost anyone, few exceptions, from leaving the state. And anyone who comes back into kentucky has to be kwaurn teequ for two weeks. Is that advice that you think would be prudent in new orleans now . I think what the mayor and the governor have done with the stay at home mandate, which was early in this process, is working. And i think that we need to encourage that both in our community and communities around this country that staying at home and isolating yourself from other people is the way that we can beat this. It seems rudimentary, but it is the way that we can stop the spread of this and flatten the curve. And thats what this is about. So what happens, collin, when you see communities, cities within states, issuing these orders, but then state wide the orders not issued or even neighboring states, louisiana has it, mississippi, texas do not. Does that then mute the effect of social distancing and allow this to spread further . We have discussed neighboring states. The main thing that is important that you have, you know, your state leadership and your city leadership, you know, coordinating and communicating and working together and so far in this, that is absolutely what i have seen. We have a very successful drive through Testing Program that, you know, came down from the federal government as far as materials and supplies. Managed by the state and run locally. And it has worked really well. We had a lot of success. Well have over 5,000 tests today and 11 or 12 days. And were continuing that. And i think that thats important. The state is leading our charge on medical surge capacity. We have taken over our Convention Center. Were building a thousand beds, ready by the end of the week and we can surge in phases up to 3,000 beds if we need to. Thats all been the states taking the lead on that. We appreciate, we understand now the United States navy, the medical corps will be coming down to assist with that operation as well. Listen, youre doing great work there. Just want to send our best to you for that, but also the people in new orleans and louisiana. Collin arnold, thanks so much. Anytime, thank you. With us now, dr. Celine gounder, clinical assistant professor of medicine and Infectious Diseases at nyu. We have so many questions for you. I want to start with the question of testing because we heard so many competing claims about how widely available and how quickly these tests would be available. The president said yesterday he hasnt heard about testing as an issue in weeks. What are the facts . And can americans who need tests get tests today . So the tests are still very much in short supply. We as doctors are having to really focus that resource on patients for whom it is going to change our medicaling management. So, you know, if were debating is this truly covid19 versus maybe this is somebody who just has straight up Heart Failure or an exacerbation of their emphyse emphysema, knowing that is crucial. If someone does not have covid19, can be managed at home safely where theyre not at risk for getting infected relative to being in the hospital, thats something we want to achieve. I think thats really false. I think it is really just being directed at those who are sickest where it is going to change what were going to do for them. Dr. Gounder, excuse me, the question im getting the most from friends and family members is do i wear a mask or dont i . We heard from the president yesterday that there may come the point where it is advised that all americans should wear masks. Didnt say definitively. But as early as an hour ago, the latest cdc guidance and w. H. O. Guidance is you dont need to wear a mask out if youre not ill. Is that what should americans do this morning . There is two different purposes for Wearing Masks, one to protect yourself and to protect other people. I have been speaking to experts who study quite literally the droplets and gas you exhale or sneeze or cough out including one such researcher up at m. I. T. Publishing on this as it relates to the coronavirus. And what she tells me is that the dichotomy between droplets and aersoles is a false one and we have to assume some is spread by aerosoles. That is a greater concern for healthcare workers who have heavy exposure. For the general public, we should be Wearing Masks on the order of scarves or ban ddannas not to protect ourselves but it may trap anything were carrying if were carriers or infected. Fair enough. Dr. Gounder before you go, the other question i often get and im sure you as well is what are the next couple of weeks going to look like . We hear of a ramp ing up of cases. What should people at home be expecting . I think we should be expecting to hear the death toll is going to be increasing. I think we should expect to hear that healthcare workers are going to be getting sick and frankly dying from this. And that hospitals are going to be overwhelmed. And possibly having to turn away patients. I think that is something that we should all anticipate in the coming weeks. Thats astonishing. The wall street journal this morning, big hospital here in new york, deciding who should get ventilators and who should not, but to turn away patients, that could be a reality in weeks in america is mind boggling. Thank you as always. Joining us in the next hour, ill be speaking to dr. Anthony fauci, the nations top doctor about the spread of the coronavirus, get as much information as we can. Still to come this hour, President Trump tells a group of governors yesterday that he hadnt heard complaints about coronavirus testing in weeks. At least one of those governors publicly disagreed. Also, doctors turning to instagram to ask for equipment donations. We have that story, four people are dead and hundreds more are repo reporting feeling ill on a cruise ship that is sailing to the coast of florida. Will officials in that state let them dock . They are both very much hand in hand. So you should really be focusing on both and definitely at the same time. The new sensodyne sensitivity gum gives us the dual action effect that really takes care of both our teeth sensitivity as well as our gum issues. By brushing with sensodyne sensitivity gum at home its giving you the relief that you need and the control that you need to take care of your oral health. And it creates a healthier environment. Theres no question its something that i would recommend. They have businesses to grow customers to care for lives to get home to they use stamps. Com print discounted postage for any letter any package any time right from your computer all the Amazing Services of the post office only cheaper get our special tv offer a 4week trial plus postage and a digital scale go to stamps. Com tv and never go to the post office again . Do your sneezes turn head wont be a new thing. And it wont be their First Experience with social distancing. Overcoming challenges is what defines the military community. Usaa has been standing with them, for nearly a hundred years. And well be here to serve for a hundred more. The president was asked by montanas governor about the availability of tests. Listen to this part of a call with the president , his team and governors from across the country. Literally we are one day away if we dont get test kits from the cdc. We wont be able to do testing in montana. Tell me, i havent heard about testing in weeks. We tested more than any nation in the world. We have got great tests, we come out with another one tomorrow, where it is, you know, but i havent heard about testing being a problem. Katie tolento is with me, formerly a trump adviser on healthcare policy. Thank you for the time. Thank you for having me. We also just heard this morning on new day from maryland republican governor larry hogan. Heres what he said. There is no question that the federal government and all of the states believe that we need more testing. Without the tests we really are flying blind. The president says he hasnt heard anything about testing in weeks, but multiple governors, ive just named two, many more, dont have the tests. Is the country flying blind without enough. I think we all want to see more tests happen. I think that is absolutely a priority. Probably what the president was saying is that he hadnt heard there was as great a need in a few weeks because everybody has been working so hard on getting it out. And thats the point of having these calls with governors is to hear from them. So, you know what we heard last night from secretary azeclex az and the president is we got a million tests now that have gone out, and most importantly we have this new abbott labs test, a rapid test that will give us an answer in five minutes and no answer in under 15. So thats going to help. Theyre going to ship 50,000 a day and thats ramping up right now starting today. I was going to ask you about that. I think thats a really positive development that the fda approved that abbott lab test and, you know, we saw what a difference that makes with flu. And being able to test for the flu so quickly. Well watch for that. Lets talk about masks. The president said yesterday we could get to a point where all americans are advised to wear masks. As of this morning, you know, cdc and w. H. O. Arent saying at this point that that is what americans should be doing. What should we all do when we leave our house . We shouldnt leave our house. Thats the first thing to remember that we dont know yet if masks really work. We dont have the Evidence Base for it. We absolutely have centuries of evidence about social distancing. So what im doing to protect myself and my family is im leaning in to those stay at home orders, but there are essential and there are First Responders that have to go out. I think it is really important that if you wear a mask, you dont do anything different with respect to staying away from other people that you would if you werent wearing a mask. Either way, we need to really be disciplined out in public. What do you think we have learned . What is the Lesson Learned from this crisis in terms of the ability to save more lives next time Something Like this hits, in terms of testing and what we use, for example, the administration, the cdc, not allowing and not using the w. H. O. Test that was developed, banning private hospitals from using tests they developed. Was that a mistake that can direct us in the right direction next time . So i think there will be time after this is all over for post mortems and assessments of blame and assessments of what went wrong. Right now we have to stay focused on Going Forward. We cant have our experts diverted into analyzing the past. I do think that we will see the testing, Rapid Testing should be an absolute priority. I think we should open wide the floodgates to tests being developed from all sources. But of course our fda and our cdc officials, theyre worried. And it is their job to be worried about false results. If you get a bunch of false positives or false negatives, that creates a problem and the American People were going to have tests that are reliable and valid and so there is a tradeoff. I think these are these times are really important for analyzing the tradeoffs between security and scientific validity. But also rapidity and how quickly we can ramp up and scale up. I think we all know as humans that failures are what we all learn the most from. And thats where that question comes from, as well as this, as someone who advised the president and his team on Major Hospital<\/a> right here in new york city are being told to think very carefully about who does and does not get a ventilator. It is another symptom of a nationwide problem hospitals just dont have what they need. Yeah. Rationing, amazing were getting there. In cities across the country, Field Hospital<\/a>s are now going operational because of the expected overflow at hospitals in Convention Center<\/a>s, even in new york citys central park. And next hour the Navy Hospital<\/a> ship comfort will take on its first noncoronavirus patients to help take the pressure off other new york hospitals. Cases are surging across the country, in new emerging hot spots. Three out of four americans now are under stay at home or shelter in place orders. And signs in california that the social distancing guidelines may be working. We have got a lot to get to this hour. All of us here doing our part. Lets begin in new york with cnn National Correspondent<\/a> brynn gingras. Tell us what it is like in new york there. Just the scenes of seeing tents going up in central park to treat the affected. Just amazing. Yeah. It is just it is. It is amazing. Coronavirus is quite literally changing the landscape here in new york city. It is different. It is very different. Not only do we have a giant Military Hospital<\/a> ship in our harbor, but we have tents up in central park, we also just got word, guys, that the u. S. Open where that is played that tennis center, thats also going to be transformed into a hospital with about 350 beds. Were also learning about fema working with the city to get 250 ambulances here and staff to deal with the surge. But let me talk about this hospital here behind me. In central park, a place where people usually are sunbathing, when it is warm out or exercising. Now it is a hospital from a Christian Group<\/a> that came up here over the weekend and brought with them all these tents, 68 beds will be able to be utilized by Covid Patients<\/a> and were hearing patients will be coming today and could be coming from any of the five boroughs in new york city. And there will also be icu units inside those hospital tents as well. So, again, just another measure that is being taken to help with the surge. I should mention, even with all this help that were seeing here in new york city, the governor saying we still need more help. Actually putting out a plea yesterday saying anyone who can give, you know, their expertise to come to new york city, we need your help and we will repay you by sending our people to you should you need it. So that is a situation that continues to be the case here in new york city. Truly wanting to Work Together<\/a> across state lines, brynn, thank you for that reporting. Just remarkable to see those that park, you know, we run in it families take their kids there, it is now a makeshift hospital. It is incredible. It shows too how people are contributing, right . Thats a Christian Group<\/a> there, we have individuals, of course, families doing their part by staying at home. There is a National Effort<\/a> to come together and respond. Youre so right. All right, lets talk about another city dealing with the surge, ryan young joins us in detroit. Just, you know, it seems like overnight it has been the past few days, weeks, that michigan has been hit so hard, specifically detroit. Yes. So tough too you hear the numbers. Yesterday, the number that stuck out to me was over 1800 new cases in the last two days, that was yesterday. Look, guys, ive been across the country. What you see is this eerie silence that sits over a city once they figure out they may be the next hot spot. That is happening here. There is no traffic anywhere around the city now. It seems like everybody is taking that shelter in place quite seriously. Look behind me this is the tcf center, where the world famous auto show would be held. Thats been canceled. What will happen here, this will be transformed into a Field Hospital<\/a> with some 900 extra beds. Theyre getting ready for the capacity. What were told, theyre going to split the patients in severity so there will be the worse on one side and people who have covid19 in another place. But we talked to an emergency room nurse this morning, who is telling us how difficult this has been, especially when it comes to the families. Wanting to talk with their family members to discuss and the involving the patients families in the discussion. But, you know, theyre alone. And thats heart breaking to us because we know how important it is to have family around. Reporter real quick here, poppy and jim, just to think about this and the impact it is having in this area, look, in michigan over 180 people have died so far. And the superintendent of schools here in detroit put a tweet out that really sums things up. Two employees died and three parents died and that was yesterday. The numbers are probably going to get worse today. It is really difficult here. Yeah. More and more i think, you know, ryan and poppy, people like us, we know people who have been affected by it and thats going to happen to more and more americans. Ryan young in chicago, in detroit, thank you very much. Now to new orleans, another city affected by this confirmed cases soaring as hospitals brace now to potentially run out of ventilators and other equipment, by this weekend. Joining us now is colin arnold director of new Orleans Office<\/a> of Homeland Security<\/a> and emergency preparedness. Good to have you back. I thank folks like you. I know youre taking time out of your day, you got a lot on your plate, to help get information out. When we spoke last week, you said that this outbreak will be the defining crisis of our generation. In the last week, what have you seen on the ground there that has brought that home to you. Well, thanks for having me, good morning. New orleans and louisiana in general continue to see very high rates of infection and deaths. Right now were at 1480 cases. 86 deaths and were a community of 400,000. So were tracking at about 5 on the mortality rate and it is just thats high. And our population has a higher rate of Underlying Health<\/a> conditions, were preparing for a significant amount of hospitalizations and unfortunately it is, of course a significant amount of deaths. Horrible news and horrible to see when these hot spots emerge. I wonder what you think about some of the action taken, for example, by the governor yesterday, in kentucky. With a strict order it bars basically almost anyone, few exceptions, from leaving the state. And anyone who comes back into kentucky has to be kwaurn teequ for two weeks. Is that advice that you think would be prudent in new orleans now . I think what the mayor and the governor have done with the stay at home mandate, which was early in this process, is working. And i think that we need to encourage that both in our community and communities around this country that staying at home and isolating yourself from other people is the way that we can beat this. It seems rudimentary, but it is the way that we can stop the spread of this and flatten the curve. And thats what this is about. So what happens, collin, when you see communities, cities within states, issuing these orders, but then state wide the orders not issued or even neighboring states, louisiana has it, mississippi, texas do not. Does that then mute the effect of social distancing and allow this to spread further . We have discussed neighboring states. The main thing that is important that you have, you know, your state leadership and your city leadership, you know, coordinating and communicating and working together and so far in this, that is absolutely what i have seen. We have a very successful drive through Testing Program<\/a> that, you know, came down from the federal government as far as materials and supplies. Managed by the state and run locally. And it has worked really well. We had a lot of success. Well have over 5,000 tests today and 11 or 12 days. And were continuing that. And i think that thats important. The state is leading our charge on medical surge capacity. We have taken over our Convention Center<\/a>. Were building a thousand beds, ready by the end of the week and we can surge in phases up to 3,000 beds if we need to. Thats all been the states taking the lead on that. We appreciate, we understand now the United States<\/a> navy, the medical corps will be coming down to assist with that operation as well. Listen, youre doing great work there. Just want to send our best to you for that, but also the people in new orleans and louisiana. Collin arnold, thanks so much. Anytime, thank you. With us now, dr. Celine gounder, clinical assistant professor of medicine and Infectious Diseases<\/a> at nyu. We have so many questions for you. I want to start with the question of testing because we heard so many competing claims about how widely available and how quickly these tests would be available. The president said yesterday he hasnt heard about testing as an issue in weeks. What are the facts . And can americans who need tests get tests today . So the tests are still very much in short supply. We as doctors are having to really focus that resource on patients for whom it is going to change our medicaling management. So, you know, if were debating is this truly covid19 versus maybe this is somebody who just has straight up Heart Failure<\/a> or an exacerbation of their emphyse emphysema, knowing that is crucial. If someone does not have covid19, can be managed at home safely where theyre not at risk for getting infected relative to being in the hospital, thats something we want to achieve. I think thats really false. I think it is really just being directed at those who are sickest where it is going to change what were going to do for them. Dr. Gounder, excuse me, the question im getting the most from friends and family members is do i wear a mask or dont i . We heard from the president yesterday that there may come the point where it is advised that all americans should wear masks. Didnt say definitively. But as early as an hour ago, the latest cdc guidance and w. H. O. Guidance is you dont need to wear a mask out if youre not ill. Is that what should americans do this morning . There is two different purposes for Wearing Masks<\/a>, one to protect yourself and to protect other people. I have been speaking to experts who study quite literally the droplets and gas you exhale or sneeze or cough out including one such researcher up at m. I. T. Publishing on this as it relates to the coronavirus. And what she tells me is that the dichotomy between droplets and aersoles is a false one and we have to assume some is spread by aerosoles. That is a greater concern for healthcare workers who have heavy exposure. For the general public, we should be Wearing Masks<\/a> on the order of scarves or ban ddannas not to protect ourselves but it may trap anything were carrying if were carriers or infected. Fair enough. Dr. Gounder before you go, the other question i often get and im sure you as well is what are the next couple of weeks going to look like . We hear of a ramp ing up of cases. What should people at home be expecting . I think we should be expecting to hear the death toll is going to be increasing. I think we should expect to hear that healthcare workers are going to be getting sick and frankly dying from this. And that hospitals are going to be overwhelmed. And possibly having to turn away patients. I think that is something that we should all anticipate in the coming weeks. Thats astonishing. The wall street journal this morning, big hospital here in new york, deciding who should get ventilators and who should not, but to turn away patients, that could be a reality in weeks in america is mind boggling. Thank you as always. Joining us in the next hour, ill be speaking to dr. Anthony fauci, the nations top doctor about the spread of the coronavirus, get as much information as we can. Still to come this hour, President Trump<\/a> tells a group of governors yesterday that he hadnt heard complaints about coronavirus testing in weeks. At least one of those governors publicly disagreed. Also, doctors turning to instagram to ask for equipment donations. We have that story, four people are dead and hundreds more are repo reporting feeling ill on a cruise ship that is sailing to the coast of florida. Will officials in that state let them dock . They are both very much hand in hand. So you should really be focusing on both and definitely at the same time. The new sensodyne sensitivity gum gives us the dual action effect that really takes care of both our teeth sensitivity as well as our gum issues. By brushing with sensodyne sensitivity gum at home its giving you the relief that you need and the control that you need to take care of your oral health. And it creates a healthier environment. Theres no question its something that i would recommend. They have businesses to grow customers to care for lives to get home to they use stamps. Com print discounted postage for any letter any package any time right from your computer all the Amazing Services<\/a> of the post office only cheaper get our special tv offer a 4week trial plus postage and a digital scale go to stamps. Com tv and never go to the post office again . Do your sneezes turn head wont be a new thing. And it wont be their First Experience<\/a> with social distancing. Overcoming challenges is what defines the military community. Usaa has been standing with them, for nearly a hundred years. And well be here to serve for a hundred more. The president was asked by montanas governor about the availability of tests. Listen to this part of a call with the president , his team and governors from across the country. Literally we are one day away if we dont get test kits from the cdc. We wont be able to do testing in montana. Tell me, i havent heard about testing in weeks. We tested more than any nation in the world. We have got great tests, we come out with another one tomorrow, where it is, you know, but i havent heard about testing being a problem. Katie tolento is with me, formerly a trump adviser on healthcare policy. Thank you for the time. Thank you for having me. We also just heard this morning on new day from maryland republican governor larry hogan. Heres what he said. There is no question that the federal government and all of the states believe that we need more testing. Without the tests we really are flying blind. The president says he hasnt heard anything about testing in weeks, but multiple governors, ive just named two, many more, dont have the tests. Is the country flying blind without enough. I think we all want to see more tests happen. I think that is absolutely a priority. Probably what the president was saying is that he hadnt heard there was as great a need in a few weeks because everybody has been working so hard on getting it out. And thats the point of having these calls with governors is to hear from them. So, you know what we heard last night from secretary azeclex az and the president is we got a million tests now that have gone out, and most importantly we have this new abbott labs test, a rapid test that will give us an answer in five minutes and no answer in under 15. So thats going to help. Theyre going to ship 50,000 a day and thats ramping up right now starting today. I was going to ask you about that. I think thats a really positive development that the fda approved that abbott lab test and, you know, we saw what a difference that makes with flu. And being able to test for the flu so quickly. Well watch for that. Lets talk about masks. The president said yesterday we could get to a point where all americans are advised to wear masks. As of this morning, you know, cdc and w. H. O. Arent saying at this point that that is what americans should be doing. What should we all do when we leave our house . We shouldnt leave our house. Thats the first thing to remember that we dont know yet if masks really work. We dont have the Evidence Base<\/a> for it. We absolutely have centuries of evidence about social distancing. So what im doing to protect myself and my family is im leaning in to those stay at home orders, but there are essential and there are First Responders<\/a> that have to go out. I think it is really important that if you wear a mask, you dont do anything different with respect to staying away from other people that you would if you werent wearing a mask. Either way, we need to really be disciplined out in public. What do you think we have learned . What is the Lesson Learned<\/a> from this crisis in terms of the ability to save more lives next time Something Like<\/a> this hits, in terms of testing and what we use, for example, the administration, the cdc, not allowing and not using the w. H. O. Test that was developed, banning private hospitals from using tests they developed. Was that a mistake that can direct us in the right direction next time . So i think there will be time after this is all over for post mortems and assessments of blame and assessments of what went wrong. Right now we have to stay focused on Going Forward<\/a>. We cant have our experts diverted into analyzing the past. I do think that we will see the testing, Rapid Testing<\/a> should be an absolute priority. I think we should open wide the floodgates to tests being developed from all sources. But of course our fda and our cdc officials, theyre worried. And it is their job to be worried about false results. If you get a bunch of false positives or false negatives, that creates a problem and the American People<\/a> were going to have tests that are reliable and valid and so there is a tradeoff. I think these are these times are really important for analyzing the tradeoffs between security and scientific validity. But also rapidity and how quickly we can ramp up and scale up. I think we all know as humans that failures are what we all learn the most from. And thats where that question comes from, as well as this, as someone who advised the president and his team on Health Issues<\/a> and who has the background that you have, what do you think the impact has been of the president for weeks until recently downplaying the magnitude of this pandemic and saying things like just in midmarch, he said it is something nobody expected when we now know there was this 69 page briefing book put together by the nsc that played out what happens in a pandemic and asks questions like is there sufficient personal protective equipment for healthcare workers who are providing medical care . I ask this of all the doctors out there, the ones in brownsville, brooklyn, who told us yesterday theyre going to home depot some of them to buy protective gear. That guidance in 2016 was not taken by the administration, what can we learn from it Going Forward<\/a> . I think the president isnt always briefed on every single preparedness activity that is going on at the staff level. And im actually encouraged that those plans and those conversations were going on. I know that the Global Health<\/a> team both they didnt heed the advice and the president is saying no one thought anything like this could happen, but they did. A lot of people in the white house and in all the agencies of course did think Something Like<\/a> this could happen. The fact that there is a briefing book shows you that everyone was thinking about this, just six months prior to this event the president signed an executive order on pandemic flu preparedness. But, katie, why my question is it is great to have a briefing book. But if it is not utilized, and if there are doctors dying right now, and nurses dying right now, and First Responders<\/a> without the proper gear, im asking what lessons can be learned and applied for the future . It is a good question. I think that probably one of the most important lessons is the role of our state partners. I will say that the states are an integral essential part of our pandemic preparedness efforts over the past years and years. And those essential partners really have the freedom to stockpile things for their own people and not be at the mercy of the federal government. So the states shouldnt rely on the National Stockpile<\/a> . The states shouldnt be asking the federal government now . I dont think any governor wants to be in a position where theyre at the mercy of federal decisionmakers who have to look out for the entire country. I think every governor that the system that we have was designed so that governors wouldnt have to be in that position. And any state or governor that is pointing the finger at the federal governments lack of preparedness and any supply shortage is at least equally exposing that states lack of preparedness. What is the lesson Going Forward<\/a>, it is that we need to be prepared at the state level and local levels as well as the federal and there is a lot of room for improvement at all levels. Katie talento, appreciate you coming on. Come back, please. Thanks for your time. Jim . North americas Largest Convention<\/a> center is about to be used to fight coronavirus. Well be there live and were Just Moments Away<\/a> from the opening bell on wall street. The dow looks set to slide at the start as the bleak Economic News<\/a> just continues. Goldman sachs has significantly downgraded its outlook for the u. S. Economy. Talking about a major contraction here and it seems the collapse of the labor market will be even worse than feared. You should be mad they gave this guy a promotion. You should be mad at forced camaraderie. And you should be mad at tech that makes things worse. 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So the city of chicago, state of illinois and u. S. Army corps of engineers are working to transform chicagos Convention Center<\/a> into an alternate care facility. Their goal by the end of the week is to have at least 500 beds set up. For most of the day yesterday they were unpacking medical supplies. Thats first phase. Their goal by the end of this all is to have at least 3,000 beds set up in three different sections of this Mccormick Place<\/a> center here. All of this is to ease the burden on hospitals as we continue to see the number of coronavirus cases rise here in the state of illinois. Omar jimenez, good to have you there. Now to rosa flores, live in florida, and the clash there over a cruise ship. Tell us what is happening. Reporter well, jim, the zaandam cruise ship is headed to florida and the situation there has worsened. Eight people tested positive for covid19, four individuals died, the cause of death not determined yet and dozens of others are exhibiting flulike symptoms this is expected to arrive wednesday or thursday, but does not have permission to dock. That decision will be made by Broward County<\/a> commissioners and unified command. Here is the thing, Governor Ron Desantis<\/a> announced he, the u. S. Coast guard and the white house do not want this ship to dock, saying that he wants to make sure there are hospital beds for floridians here in the state. Here is the thing, 305 u. S. Citizens are on board, including 49 floridians. We know canadians are on board. A lot of passengers and families are going to social media making a plea asking for mercy and compassion so that florida can take them in. Well see what happens when it gets there wednesday or thursday. Rosa, thank you in miami. To atlanta, the mayor there says hospitals could reach capacity by may 3rd if not sooner. Amarah walker joins us from atlanta. A stay at home order remains in effect here in atlanta and there is no timeline as to when that will be lifted. In a facebook audio call to her citys constituents, the mayor said she was concerned that as you were mentioning the hospitals here could reach capacity by may 3rd, possibly sooner. She said the city ordered 1200 ventilators and they should arrive by april. Now, three hours south of here in a city called albany, georgia, very different scene, the hospitals there have already been overwhelmed and the Georgia National<\/a> guard deployed three medical teams to be on the ground there to help the hospitals on the ground for the covid19 response. The icus have reached capacity, thats according to the Healthcare System<\/a>. And they say the main challenge now is meeting the demand of Critical Care<\/a> staffing. There are reported 27 confirmed deaths in albany, according to the Healthcare System<\/a> and that accounts for about 30 of all coronavirus deaths in georgia. Jim, back to you. Listen, if there is any doubt this is a national issue, listen to those accounts from around the country. Amara walker, great to have you there. Look at this, a stunning visual. Thats an aerial shot of more than 800 cars lined up outside of a food bank near pittsburgh, just yesterday. The Officials Say<\/a> people started to arrive three hours before the drive through emergency distribution began. Every car load received 50 pounds of groceries, no questions asked, the Greater Pittsburgh<\/a> Community Food<\/a> bank waived all economic requirements during this pandemic. Just a reminder, when we go to the Grocery Store<\/a> what can we give to those who are waiting like that. Every one of those cars is a family affected by this. 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Stephan flores an Emergency Room Physician<\/a> in new york city. The epicenter of this pandemic. It has been very overwhelming and stressful. Pretty much everyone we see has corona. Reporter with each approaching siren, congestion in the er grows. They need more beds, more gear, they need to stay healthy, they need more information. I had so many friends, families, colleagues reach out to me from across the world, oh, my god, are you okay, what is going on over there. Reporter in response, dr. Flores and a fellow emergency physician dr. Lynn jiang launched air it out covid19 on instagram and encouraged others to join in. It has been therapeutic and helpful to let everyone know what is going on. And it is not just here in new york, we have been trying to get snapshots of what has been going on across the country. Reporter snapshots of life in the er, your eyes tell it all. Sometimes we look at each other through our masks, and we know what each other is feeling. Sometimes we just let each other know were okay. Crowded ambulance bays, a seemingly endless stream of patients, tents to help alleviate the strain inside. Each image a personal story. Our Healthcare Workforce<\/a> is more than just ourpo, about our fearless emts. We need to recognize that paramed paramedics, emts are out there risking their lives with the lack of personal protective equipment, were seeing things that might not even reporte reporter everywhere i look, someone is being intubated, someone is dying. Im someone who wants to be holding their hand, to whisper in their ear to say you are not alone, but knows it is a risk not only for myself, but also for others. Moments like this one define how much has changed in just a few short weeks. I want to be at the bedside, put my hand on her and let her know it would be okay. I cant touch her. I had to don my personal protective equipment and keep my distance. At that moment, i almost felt helpless. Reporter and yet there are still reasons to hope. New york cheering the citys healthcare workers, this brought tears to my eyes, wrote one local nurse. The signs of support, encouragement and deep appreciation are the silver lining. These moments of positivity and gratitude keep us going. Frightening times to be working, you know, in the emergency room and to be working in the hospital in general. That being said if there was any time probably to validate and reinforce why we chose to go into medicine, it is now. Reporter a determination to push forward for as long as theyre needed. Im erica hill, cnn. Those sounds and sights of people clapping for healthcare workers just really moving. Joining me is one of them, dr. Dara long, er physician, clinical assistant professor at the university of tennessee. Dr. , thanks so much for coming on. It is great to have you on. I think folks are used to hearing accounts from cities like new york or more and more places like new orleans seldom from tennessee, can you tell us what the outbreak is like on the ground there . Are you seeing the first signs of this spreading widely . Yes, jim, good morning, thank you for having me. And, you know, just in that last segment, a lot of americans have heard about the shortages that we are having. Were now seeing an even new iteration and seeing this across the country, is that hospitals are reaching out to doctors to say are you comfortable practicing in another specialty . Because we know were going to have shortages of er and icu doctors. What we need to be focusing on is not letting our doctors get sick in the first place across the country. No question. Let me ask you this, a concern is that many doctors and healthcare workers dont have sufficient protective gear as theyre treating patients. Are you, do your colleagues feel like youre risking your lives as you treat the infected . We do feel we are not getting the protection we need. And they do say that er doctors were the ma gifrs macgyvers of medicine. I have another colleague who is testing it better to clean her mask using a rice cooker or dehydrator. Were pushed to that level. One thing i do want to say, this cannot go unnoticed, we are watching out and sharing our precious resources with each other, physician to physician. And it is very encouraging to see fellow physicians standing above the fray, and looking out for each other, even with our very little resources to take care of our fellow each other, our community, and to take care of our country. That cannot go unnoticed. It is not. Youre doing great stuff. And deserve credit. I want to ask you, a lot of hospitals are saying when this peaks, when the cases spike, their concern is their facilities will be overrun, they wont have enough ventilators and theyll have to be rationing healthcare. Is that a prospect youre now preparing for . We all are very concerned about that. The reality, jim, is our hospitals and icus run at 100 capacity even before we have the covid pandemic or whatever is going on. So we know when something comes in like this, were going to have more demand and we are seeing states fight for resources and precious resources. So, yes, im definitely concerned once we see that peak, we wont have enough of the ventilators, masks, medications, doctors, any number of things and we have to decide where to allocate those resources. Which is not a decision that i or any doctor wants to be making. No. It is remarkable reality. Before i let you go, the infected they have to suffer on their own, no contact with their families to reduce the risk of spreading this to others. What is that stress like on patients . You know, thats a great question. And as an er doctor, i view my job as giving somebody medications and doing diagnostics, just as much part of my job is reaching out, holding that patients hand, helping them find ways to connect with their loved ones. That is still part of my job for my patients in the er and for our greater americans to help them connect with each other to help all of us as we go through this very scary and uncertain time to be there and help them connect. Yeah. Listen, thank you so much, again, and we wish you, we wish your team and we wish all the people youre treating there the best of luck in the coming days and weeks. Thank you so much. So on top of the Health Impact<\/a> on so many and the risks that all those healthcare workers are putting themselves in front of every day, you got the economic impact, tens of thousands of workers being furloughed because of coronavirus and economists are now saying this is going to get much worse. Straight from the worlds best plant scientists, comes miraclegro performance organics. Organic plant food and soil that finally work. For twice the bounty. Guaranteed. Miraclegro performance organics. They have businesses to grow customers to care for lives to get home to they use stamps. Com print discounted postage for any letter any package any time right from your computer all the Amazing Services<\/a> of the post office only cheaper get our special tv offer a 4week trial plus postage and a digital scale go to stamps. Com tv and never go to the post office again the economic damage from this is just staggering. Weve never seen Something Like<\/a> this. This morning Goldman Sachs<\/a> officially downgraded its outlook for the u. S. Economy, this as 10,000 workers are being furloughed across the country. Perhaps many of you are watching today. Christine romans is with us. Well get to the global report in a moment because its startling. What are we looking at in terms of furloughed workers across so many industries. Just in the past 36 hours, tens of thousands of them. Retail workers are almost 10 of all the employed people in the country, and youre not going to stores and malls, right . So youve seen furloughs from marriott, hilton, hyatt, macys, kohls, gannett. The rescue package from congress, the big stimulus, it has provisions in there to try to keep that infrastructure for some of these companies intact. If you have a furlough, they dont tell you to go away forever. They say if the work comes back, you can have that job. Keep your health care and the government pays your salary for the next four months. At least christine sorry, sorry. A contraction of 34 , by onethird. Thats remarkable. We have to rub our eyes to see is there a decimal missing there. A 34 contraction. Goldman goes on to say they think there will be a snapback in the third quarter, more like a vshaped recession than a ushaped recession that everyone is talking about. Those numbers are not that controversial, really. When you look at some of the modelling other people have, we stopped pa big part of the american economy, just stopped it in its tracks like weve never done before. The numbers are terrifying, but they reflect just how dramatic the move here was. The big question for me was how much stimulus will get out there. The bills are coming and the checks arent, right . How quickly will the money be there . Will there be more after that, and what does it look like on the other side for the economy . We just dont know. Christine romans, thank you so much. Right now three out of every four americans have been ordered to stay at home. Is that enough . Is enough being done to actually slow the spread of coronavirus . Dr. Fauci joins us next. From your allergy pills . Flonase relieves your worst symptoms which most pills dont. Get allinone allergy relief for 24 hours, with flonase. Shbecause xfinity mobilehen ygives you more flexible data. You can choose to share data between lines, mix with unlimited, or switch it up at any time. All on the most reliable wireless network. Which means you can save money without compromising on coverage. Get more flexible data, the most reliable network, and more savings. Plus, get 300 off when you buy a new Samsung Galaxy<\/a> s20 ultra. Thats simple. Easy. Awesome. Go to xfinitymobile. Com today. A good Tuesday Morning<\/a> to you. Im jim sciutto. And im poppy harlow. America hits a milestone as the nation fights this pandemic. 575 americans died yesterday alone from covid19. That is the largest number of deaths that we have seen in a single day so far in the United States<\/a>. The death toll across the country has now risen above 3,000. We will hear from the white house on their updated guidelines today. Also this morning, a sobering report. Doctors at a new york City Hospital<\/a> are being told now to think carefully about who and who does not get a ventilator. Hospitals across the country are desperate for more supplies. Staff, bed space, and we are now seeing Field Hospital<\/a>s going operational. 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