Lets go live to hong kong and cnns will ripley. Could this heighten tensions on the ground . Reporter what its illustrating is the division that exists in hong kong between the people who are celebrating this bill and the government which is condemning it because obviously it authorizes sanctions on chinese and hong kong officials involved in human rights abuses. The very abuses that protesters have been at times violently fighting against for the last six months plunging this city into a recession and adding to the uncertainty is another part of this bill that requires the state department to review hong kongs highly covetted special trade status. The mainland doesnt have it. Hong kong does. Its a big reason why this country has been so prosperous for so long. If that were to go away because of perceived human rights abuses by the United States that could further deepen the economic crisis that has resulted from the social unrest here. And so you have people waiving american flags, thanking President Trump and then you have the government pointing to the videos from poly u the scene of intense clashes almost two weeks ago and they say they found 600 petrol bombs and other weapons and asking why the United States would support a violent government the government considers rioters but the city overwhelming sports and the election proved that. Well monitor that situation. Will, what can you tell us about the projectiles reportedly fires from north korea over night . Reporter yeah. This was the 13th launch this year. Its been dizzying but the difference between the launches that we saw in 2017, for example, when there were Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles and nuclear tests, these were short range launches that President Trump said it doesnt bother him has all but given his stamp of approval for. Meaning kim jongun can launch as much as he wants without any fear of penalty and frairpgly at the moment theres no disploemsy to speak of happening between the United States and north korea. Everything is ground to a halt. North korea is not getting along with south korea right now, so i suspect these launches are less about sending a message to the outside world. Obviously they want to remind south korea theyre developing their short range capabilities, but i think the bigger challenge facing kim jongun is how to project strength internally. These launches hes not getting penalized for internationally still allow him to appear strong on state media, despite the fact that north koreas economy is in shambles and they continue to struggle and havent made any diplomatic progress with south korea or the United States to speak of. Will ripley, we appreciate you staying up late for us, my friend. Happy thanksgiving. Happy thanksgiving. Joining us now to discuss all of this is former assistant secretary for the department of Homeland Security. How important is it for these antigovernment protesters in hong kong to get this message from the president of the u. S. , that he signed this human rights act . Its significant for them because just think of the alternative if donald trump had failed to sign it and had gone against the wishes of congress what that would have essentially said to china was you sort of have a free hand in tempering down or at least stopping these protests. And so it is a huge sort of surge of relief on the ground and gives the protesters as were seeing today as they sort of honor the United States today at least sort of shot in the arm right now. I dont think it will have a longterm impact in how china decides this. The second thing of course is china is not happy. They have called our ambassador in. It is already sort of threatened a response to the legislation being signed. And we have a lot to deal with with china. So their unhappiness, at least with the u. S. Government, although they dont attack trump specifically, which i think the interesting, is going to play out in a lot of the negotiations going on with the trade deals. Julet some argue this doesnt go after china but punishes the people of hong kong . No. I think thats a way to sort of get out at least the United States having a strong statement to support the protesters. Look, its complicated a Statement Like the legislation is not going to do grave harm to china. It is names and shames. It requires the United States to say that hong kong is an autonomous city, something that we recognized in the past. Its a statement. We have done statements like this before to show where our moral clarity is in the protests between hong kong and china. Timing is interesting because of the trade war with china. Yes. What do you think this does to trade talks . I think to a certain extent china will view the trade talks as probably untouched by this. This is what i find interesting and what will was reporting on earlier this morning that the chinese have not attacked donald trump specifically. Theyre condemning us. Theyre being critical towards the ambassador. The chinese have said in recent statements that they like dealing with donald trump because money speaks with donald trump. Theres no principles to speak of. Theres no guiding sort of u. S. Interests that they need to worry about. If you can get donald trump on your side, the chinese believe then you can get a deal. So, they will the criticisms of the United States will in some ways i think sort of isolate the president of the United States so that they can continue with the trade talks which they want as well. And your take on north korea firing off another projectile overnight. Should we be worried about escalation there or are they just trying to get attention. Picking up on wills great reporting over the last 24 hours, this is something that the leadership of north korea will continue to do because they are short range missiles, sort of no threat to us, of course. And they will not get donald trump to respond i think in kind forgetting, of course, that we have interest in south korea and japan in the area. This is a way for the leadership of north korea to remind the United States that they want a deal by the end of the year. Donald trump once again just like with china has made the relationship with north korea personal with the letters and the he really likes north korea. And so, i think like with china the north korean leadership will continue to try to court the president of the United States outside sort of the traditional United States interest and National Security apparatus that have been dealing with a rogue and terrorist state for a long time. Julieette, thank you so much for your great expertise. Thank you. Happy thanksgiving. I heard youre cooking for 24 today. You are like wonder woman. Youre like my reprieve. I will say one thing if i can because i never mention my children, i want to say how grateful i am for them. Im going to wake them up when i get home. Enjoy them. Give them huks and were grateful to have you with us today. Thanks. Thank you. Now some more fun, the calmer winds for the win this morning because the balloons are still flying in macys annual thanksgiving day parade. Lets get right out to cnn miguel marquez. There was a lot of anticipation, miguel to see if those balloons would get the green light to fly. They havent been grounded in 50 years and they are indeed flying. Reporter yeah. Look, the wind was howling over night in brooklyn where i live and got to Central Park West and it was dead silent. Now the wind has started to pick up again and the balloons are going. Look, here comes sponge bob. Well, i should point out this is the Madison CentralHigh School Marching band out of kentucky that is coming up before sponge bob. There are 11 marching bands in the parade. What would a parade be without a marching band, but the balloons, sponge bob, this is a new sponge bob with gary on top, his buddy. They are having a tough time when they come through the intersections here. They have a police sergeant. They have a wind meter with them. They basically stop before the intersection. They whistle them through and make a run through the intersection as theyre trying to get through, but a lot of these balloons are scraping along the road. Look, trying to go through an intersection right now. Well see how it does. But the wind has been a little squirrely. Sometimes gusting, you know, probably in the 20s or so, but its very, very difficult for these balloon handlers to keep track of them. All that said, the people here having a great time. Happy thanksgiving. Happy thanksgiving reporter enormous, enormous crowds as always. And we have the marching band coming through, and theyre actually playing. So its nice to get a little bit of them as well. 1,000 clowns. 1,200 cheerleaders and dancers. A massive undertaking. Some 8,000 people it takes to put this show on every year as one of the brand new big balloons, sponge bob and gary. You can see how theyre all the way on the left side of the street because they are concerned as they come through 72nd street here that that wind is going to blow it over to the right. And theyve been scraping along the right there. So, this is the little bit of drama that we get today. But otherwise a perfectly gorgeous day here in manhattan. Keeping our fingers crossed that everybody stays safe that the balloons make it through the parade route without any problems. Miguel, in the meantime, soak up some of that positive energy for all of us who cant be there today. Thank you. Reporter you got it. 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Remission can start with stelara®. Fine, no one leaves the tablefine, well sleep here. Its the easiest because its the cheesiest. Kraft. For the win win. We have new reporting this morning on the ukraine pressure campaign. The New York Times reports while Rudy Giuliani was pushing for an investigation into the bidens, the president s personal lawyer was also trying to sign business deals in ukraine for hundreds of thousands of dollars. And there are also new questions this morning about that phone call Ambassador Gordon Sondland reported he had with President Trump. Its the call republicans and the president have used as a defense to push back on ukraine reporting. Joining us to discus this is cnn National Security and legal analyst susan hennessy, former National Security agency attorney. Good to have you with us. Thanks again for being here on thanksgiving. Lets start with Rudy Giuliani. If giuliani was trying to make these business deals, hundreds of thousands of dollars with the very same ukrainian officials he was talking to in his effort to dig up dirt on the bidens, what kind of legal trouble could this pose, even if they didnt follow through . Potentially there is some potentially legal exposure here. Keep in mind, this is exactly why we saw so many career officials talking about the concerns regarding this irregular channel. If Rudy Giuliani was a Government Employee or even had been sort of designated as a special envoy, somebody who worked in a private capacity but on behalf of the government, he would be required to make disclosures to adhere to a series of ethics and compliance rules when he was representing the interests of the United States he was really doing that and not his own financial interests. So what were seeing here this comingling of pursuing political favors for the president of the United States reportedly and also reportedly trying to essentially make a buck off of it, thats exactly why people are so concerned when ever they see Foreign Policy being conducted in this way. So, we dont have any sort of concrete information right now about what exactly the Southern District is looking of new york is looking into, but it does appear that this is at least one element of that inquiry. This feels a little like deja vu, we dont know how this is going to end. You have a personal lawyer working for donald trump who also profits off of his using his association with him, sounds a bit like michael cohen. And the president is now starting to sound like he did when he was talking about cohen before he flipped, slowly distancing himself from him. Susan giuliani talked about having insurance against the president. Could any case against him go down differently than cohens . Yeah. So this is interesting to see sort of the parallels play out. Now giuliani has said that this sort of crack hes now made multiple times about having insurance in the event that the president of the United States throws him under the bus. It doesnt look that much like a joke. It looks a little more like a veiled threat hes saying if the president of the United States doesnt protect him, he might reveal some sort of damaging information. Now, its significant to see donald trump sort of trying to distance himself from giuliani a little bit, saying that he didnt know anything about what giuliani was doing in ukraine. Right. Giuliani had lots and lots of clients. Thats significant because giulianis defense, his representations in the media are accurate. He was doing what he was doing on behalf of the president. So to the extent that he needs to prove his defense by either sharing communications, you know, with prosecutors or with congress in order to prove that the president did, in fact, tell him to do this, or if it becomes an incentive to share those communications because he finds himself in a lot of legal jeopardy and wants to do things like cooperate in order to face reduced charges. Those could both potentially be very significant. Republicans and the president have been seizing on that one interaction between Gordon Sondland and President Trump in that phone call where President Trump supposedly said no quid pro quo. Now theres new reporting from the Washington Post that no other witnesses or documents have been able to corroborate that call. Its just sondland himself. And according to the post, quote, there is evidence of another call between trump and sondland that occurred a few days earlier, one with a very different thrust in which the president made clear that he wanted his ukrainian counterpart to personally announce investigations into trumps political opponents. Sondland is obviously a key figure in this impeachment inquiry. He is one of the people who talked to the president who did testify publicly but is he a reliable source . Sondland has had to change his story multiple times. There does appear to be a lot of confusion about whether or not there is evidence of this no quid pro quo call, having occurred. Looks like there might be a little confusion over the exact time that it occurred. You have multiple people traveling through multiple different time zones. So i think theres a lot to sort of disentangle about what the evidence says. Ultimately even if this phone call did occur just the way Gordon Sondland is saying, it is not any way exonerating of the president. The fact that the president of the United States felt compelled to say no quid pro quo immediately after essentially being caught learning of this whistleblower complaint is itself essentially evidence of awareness of guilt. Susan hennessy, so glad you could join us. Happy thanksgiving. Happy thanksgiving. With us now is charlie dent, former republican congressman. You call