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>> and republicans are making their own demands, arguing that the whistleblower and hunter biden must testify, despite weeks of testimony backing up that original whistleblower complaint and no evidence of wrongdoing by joe or hunter biden in ukraine. there's a lot to get to on this important monday morning. capitol hill, our national correspondent suzanne malveaux is there. good morning. >> good morning. it's rather quiet here as the house and senate are in recess for this veterans day, but it is about to get dramatically different as they open up for public testimony. here is the schedule and it is a busy one starting on wednesday, two witnesses will go before the tv cameras and public, top diplomat to ukraine, bill taylor, provided the most damming explosive, significant testimony corroborating much of the whistleblower's story about the president's conditions to ukraine for that military aid. also top state department official george kent testified about rudy giuliani's role in this campaign to smear the former u.s. ambassador, marie yovanovitch, and friday, marie yovanovitch herself, who defied white house orders to go forward and testify, saying that she felt intimidated and afraid as she is warned by ukraine officials to get out of the country, there was a campaign by the president and rudy giuliani and others to actually get her out of that position. >> suzanning as you look at this gop wish list, some of them to be expected, hunter booeiden, others from a hall of fame of gop targets, are any of these witnesses likely to see the light of day? >> well, we certainly know the intelligence chair adam schiff says that hunter biden nor the anonymous whistleblower will go forward, that that is just providing more support for what schiff calls a sham investigation that has since been debunked. what it does show you, jim, is there is an effort to relitigate, if you will, the fact that the theory that ukraine was involved in the election and not russia. schiff says they're not going down that rabbit hole. >> it's pretty amazing that mick mulvaney, the president's acting chief of staff, has joined this lawsuit asking for a court to essentially decide if he needs to testify like they're asking about bolton and a few others. this is a guy whose office is 50 feet from the president's and is essentially mulvaney versus trump now. what do we know? >> it's pretty clear he doesn't want to testify and he put it na the hands of the federal jump,s the federal judge asking attorneys for bolton and his deputy to go before a conference call this afternoon, sort it out, how this is going to play out, but the important thing to know is democrats feel like they may not need this testimony after all because they feel that it's going to be too late if the ruling comes in december. they're already making some efforts to move forward without it. >> yeah. and clearly they want to stick to their ambitious timeline to have this wrapped up by the holidays. thanks very much. let's talk about all that we've learned legal analyst jim baker. so nice to have you. let's begin where we left off with suzanne, mick mulvaney, versus trump, acting chief of staff, feet away from the oval office, but now he is asking a court to decide if he can essentially defy the orders of his boss or defy congress. how significant and what does it mean in the broader inquiry? >> i think it's actually from his view narrowed from his perspective an astute legal move because he potentially has exposure with respect to ob be instructing congress or interfering with the operations of congress basically and his lawyer wants to go to court to get an order to protect his perspective, protect his legal position, and it's probably an astute legal move. now again, that's when you view it narrowly from his own personal perspective. in terms of what's good for the country and appropriate for his oath of office he has to consider what he knows, we don't know what he knows, what does he know, what did he say to the president and president to him, that potentially is critical information with respect to the lawful action that congress is engaged in. >> sure. and what they're asking him, what his lawyers are asking him to join is essentially the legal argument that john bolton and charles kupperman's lawyer is making and i do want to note something that struck me from the letter that bolton's lawyer sent to the house on friday saying that he was personally involved in many of the events, meetings, conversations, to which many of these witnesses have testified. at the end of the letter he said there are things relevant that have not been testified about and this what is he writes at the end of the letter to the house, quote, if the house chooses not to pursue through subpoena the testimony of dr. kupperman and ambassador bolton let the record be clear, that is the house's decision. is he making it more difficult for democrats to argue, jim, that their timeline to expedite this, get it done by the holidays, is more important than fulsome testimony that appears, at least from his lawyer, bolton's lawyer, to be very relevant. >> it's tantalizing that whole letter and makes it seem as though mr. bolton wants to talk, that he has things he thinks are relevant, he's sort of egging them on to subpoena him. i think implying if he is subpoenaed he might show up, but that's not clear. he has this matter in front of the court. it's not quite clear to me exactly what he's doing. i think he's trying to have his cake and eat it too, late out that there's something there that they should probably dig into, but he doesn't want to overreach and alienate the president and his supporters and so if you get the cover from an order from a judge the judge ordered me so i'm doing this and i have to expose these conversations. there is something legitimate to protect the communications of the president with his key advisors. there is a core of a privilege there that does need to be respected. the question is whether it should be breached in this instance given what they were talking about. >> let me ask you about stunning reporting as you saw over the weekend from "the new york times" that a lawyer for rudy giuliani's associate who has been indicted, lev parnas, says giuliani directed parnas in may before zelensky's inauguration, to go to an associate of president zelensky of ukraine and essentially say unless you investigate the bidens, you know, the vice president, mike pence is not going to come to the inauguration and that's not going to be a good look. far before, months before the july 25th call. the timeline is important. what's also important is that giuliani is vehemently denying this. the other person, the third person in that conversation, doesn't recall it happening either. do you read it as significant for the probe and a flip against giuliani and the president? >> it seems like it's an effort to flip against the president and mr. giuliani, yes, i definitely interpret it that way. look the prospect of a long jail term tends to focus the mind on your priorities and your own interests and so mr. parnas has obviously assessed or seems as though he's assessed, we're going on reporting, he seems to have assessed look, i -- it's in my personal interest to cooperate with the government, provide them with the information that they want, in order to not spend, you know, a significant number of years in jail, potentially, of course, it's only -- he's only alleged of committing crimes not convicted. now is the time to decide whether to cooperate or not. you can't wait forever. now is the time. so it makes sense to me that he would be doing this at this juncture. >> okay. lot to get to. thank you so much. appreciate it. >> you're welcome. as top career diplomats prepare to testify this week, our guest guest worries whether trust in the foreign service and state department can be restored after this is over. >> molly montgomery spent 14 years in the foreign service and worked for mike pence for europe and asia just over a year leaving in march of last year. thank for your time. you have noted that the foreign service officers are as deeply patriotic as their colleagues in the military. that's my experience. i spent two years in the state department, they do posts all around the world, et cetera. i wonder where vice president mike pence is on this. he served in government and he's aware of the service and dedication of state department officials. why hasn't he spoken out publicly in defense of them? >> well, i certainly can't speak for the vice president. in my experience he was respectful of the expertise of career personnel, including myself, but i certainly would have hoped that the vice president, the secretary of state, and others in this administration, would have spoken up more, particularly are for ambassador maria yovanovitch who was forced out last spring. >> a lot of frustration with the silence on her in particular, poppy. >> well, molly, can you speak to what -- you obviously worked with the vice president until match of last year. can you speak to your view of what the leadership under rex tillerson and then mike pompeo at state what that has meant overall for morale? >> absolutely. well, morale is at a historic low at the state department and this is because secretary tillerson and now secretary pompeo have championed budget cuts. their staff have engaged in politically motivated harassment and retaliation and abusive behavior and failed to fill key positions. the state department really, far from having swagger, is limping along at the moment. >> tell us about the effect on policy too, because one essential thread of the ukraine story here, right, is called a shadow foreign policy but clearly a foreign policy separate from the chain of command, nsc through the state department, the president's personal lawyer shuttling back and forth and the idea that ukraine, not russia, interfered in the 2016 election. how out of bounds is that? just based on the way in your experience policy runs in this government. >> absolutely. well, i think what you've seen is that career foreign service officers like ambassador yovanovitch and others have come forward to raise the red flag and say this is not how our foreign policy is supposed to run and it's not being done in the best interest of the united states. i would also say that the -- this policy, you know, when you don't have trust in your career people who have experience and professional judgment, you're bound to get into trouble and i think that's what we've seen. >> you guys spend years training for those positions. >> absolutely. >> those country's specialties. >> molly, one final question because the president himself has pointed to the vice president saying you should ask the vice president about, for example, his september 18th call with president zelensky and the white house said they would release that transcript. it's been weeks now and they have not. do you think that that transcript, having worked for the vice president, do you think that call is material to questions surrounding ukraine and aid right now and do you think it would be helpful to the american public and to the impeachment inquiry for that to be released by the white house? >> i can't speak to the contents of that phone call, but certainly transparency can only be helpful in this matter as investigators seek to get to the bottom of what really happened. >> we'll see if they put it out. molly montgomery, thank you for your service an thank you for coming on with us. >> thank you. hours from now joe biden will take questions in iowa from voters. he is participating in cnn's town hall there tonight. a recent poll in the state has him in fourth place. our dana bash caught up with the former vice president on the campaign trail. >> plus, president trump's former u.n. ambassador nikki haley says that rex tillerson and secretary of state and john kelly then chief of staff, the president's appointees, tried to recruit her to, quote, save the country from the president himself. just remarkable to hear from inside the trump administration. we're going to have more on be that coming up. hi, i'm joan lunden. when my mother began forgetting things, we didn't know where to turn for more information. that's why i recommend a free service called a place for mom. we have local senior living advisors who can answer your questions about dementia or memory care and, if necessary, help you find the right place for your mom or dad. we all want what's best for our parents, so call today. it's easy to move forward when you're ready for what comes next. at fidelity, we make sure you have a clear plan to cover the essentials in retirement, as well as all the things you want to do. and on the way, you'll get timely investment help to keep you on the right track, without the unnecessary fees you might expect from so many financial firms. because when you have a partner who gives you clarity at every step, there's nothing to stop you from moving forward. who gives you clarity at every step, plaque psoriasis uncoverth clearer skin that can last. in fact, tremfya® was proven superior to humira® in providing significantly clearer skin. tremfya® may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms or if you had a vaccine or plan to. serious allergic reactions may occur. tremfya®. uncover clearer skin that can last. janssen can help you explore cost support options. at kay we know that every gift is important. but the most important gift is the one you give to the person who believes in you... ...all year long. every best. gift. ever. begins with kay. what might seem like a small cough can be a big bad problem for your grandchildren. babies too young to be vaccinated against whooping cough are the most at risk for severe illness. help prevent this! talk to your doctor or pharmacist today about getting vaccinated against whooping cough. hi honey, we got in early. or pharmacist today yeah, and we brought steve and mark. ♪ experience the power of sanctuary at the lincoln wish list sales event. sign and drive off in a new lincoln with zero down, zero due at signing, and a complimentary first month's payment. the country is two days away from the start of public impeachment hearings. republican lawmakers are working hard to distant the president from the ukraine scandal as much as they can. one of the strategies shift the focus from the allegations against the president and focus on the whistleblower and the bidens. >> i consider any impeachment in the house that doesn't allow us to know who the whistleblower is to be invalid because without the whistleblower complaint, we wouldn't be talking about any of this. i also see the need for hunter biden to be called to adequately defend the president and if you don't do those two things it's a complete joke. >> we should know senator graham earlier in this process said if there was evidence of a quid pro quo he would consider that inappropriate. joining us dan kildee of michigan, sits on the ways and means committee. always good to have you. >> thank you. >> you listen to lindsey graham, that's not isolated, the president, president's son, conservative commentators have called for his or her outing or outed them. deliberately undermining the whistleblower's privacy protections are republicans endangering him or her? >> they could be. this is fundamental to what whistleblower protection act was intended to address. we have to remember it's the whistleblower protection act. the whole idea is to give people who work in the government, the ability to raise issues, to speak truth to power without fear of retribution. my fear is this is not so much about this wimbledon, as these individuals and lindsey graham has to put himself in this basket, trying to send a chill into this administration to prevent anybody else who sees wrongdoing from coming forward and submitting a whistleblower report because they -- they're just afraid there will be more of this. i think it's a really dangerous path they're going down just to protect a president. >> a president. this whistleblower i believe works for the cia. are you disappointed you haven't heard calls to protect the person, calls of support for this person in the process from say the cia director gina haspel? >> absolutely. they have an obligation to protect people down the chain of command. again, the act is an act of congress. it was intended to encourage people to come forward and the idea that not only are members of congress trying to out this individual, but the individual's superiors, this individual doing his or her patriotic duty, is not being protected by his superiors or her superiors. >> there are multiple narratives of defense for the president now. the attack on the whistleblower and others is one of them. the other is emerging the idea that perhaps the president's advisors were freelancing on ukraine, that they were pursuing this policy without his explicit okay. do you find that playsble? >> it would be an incredible coincidence if from various sources from within the administration they accidentally fell upon the same idea that they could somehow persuade ukraine to investigate the bidens. it's such a trumpen sort of approach it's almost -- it's quite impossible to imagine that. in fact, if they wanted to dispute that, simply allow the president's chief of staff to come and tell the truth. i mean they want to bring in hunter biden but don't want to bring in a person who is central to the question that is being investigated. i think it's duplicitous the approach the republicans are taking. divert attention, don't want to talk about the president's behavior. i said the other day i'm surprised they haven't asked for barack obama's birth certificate. they are pursuing every conspiracy theory they can think of to not talk about this president. >> one of your colleagues from the republican side of the aisle in the house, congressman thorn berry said something this weekend that opened the door at least to questions about the appropriateness of the president's behaver with regards to ukraine. i want to play that and get your reaction. >> i believe that it is inappropriate for a president to ask a foreign leader to investigate a political rival. now it leads to a question, if there's a mill political rival with a family member involved in questionable activity what do you do. i believe it is inappropriate. i do not believe it was impeachable. >> you have a lot of private conversations with your republican colleagues. do you hear that more in private than we've heard in public? >> we are hearing that and i think they're sort of trying out this defense now. the first defense was, the call didn't happen. then well, i didn't ask for anything. and then i didn't ask for anything in exchange for it. as the house of cards is falling apart they're defaulting to the idea that the president can seek help from a foreign government to interfere in the u.s. election, while it may be bad form, i guess that's what they're saying, it's not a violation of law or the constitution and doesn't somehow rise to the level of impeachment. the constitution gives us one tool to deal with the president who is going beyond his authority of abusing his power, breaking the law, and that's impeachment. so i don't know what they want to do. send him a sternly worded letter? that's not going to -- that's not going to do the job. >> to be fair, you have and the democratic leadership of which you're a part have a big test with these public hearings because public support for impeachment and removal has stabilized over the last month. just above 50%, but certainly not -- you don't have a grind groundswell of support for this which presumably would be necessary to take the extraordinary step of removing a president from office. do you believe you have the evidence with the witness testimony you have and those who are refusing to testify do you believe you have enough to justify a vote to remove this president from office? >> personally i believe we have enough evidence. even by the president's own admission. i do think we have a responsibility to pursue all the evidence that we can find that either corroborates or somehow contradicts what we think took place. so far i've seen nothing that contradicts it. i also think it's important to keep in mind while we have the evidence and while popular opinion may ebb and flow, we all swore an oath to uphold the constitution, even when it's difficult, even when it's unpopular, so it's important that we try to make sure that the american public fully understand what's happening. i don't think we should put our finger into the wind and determine whether or not we're going to uphold the oath we swore to the constitution. >> congressman dan kildee, always a pleasure to have you on the show. >> great interview. all right. so we're going to head to iowa next. vice president joe biden is there. will the third run be the charm for him? and what's different about his run this time around? 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>> yes, they are. >> reporter: how so? >> they're helping me in every way. >> reporter: he argues democratic voters see that president considers him a threat. riding in his car to an event he elaborated. >> are you trying to win the primary by talking about the general? >> the reason i'm running is because of the general. i'm not running against what any -- anything having to do with the character of the candidates that are running. i'm trying to make the case that trump is a gigantic impediment to this country moving forward. >> reporter: but many democrats see this primary as a philosophical debate inside the party. increasingly playing out in a battle with elizabeth warren over her medicare for all plan. >> we are the richest country in the history of the world. and yes, we can afford health care for our people. >> reporter: what is elitist about structural change? >> there's nothing elitist. i was responding to a comment she made. she said anyone who disagreed with her and took her on on her issue of medicare for all, somehow either was a coward, wasn't willing to stand up and state what they thought, was somehow doing something -- was i think the phrase was, should be in the republican primary. when we talk about medicare for all and people talk about it taking two years, five years, ten years to get it done, that doesn't give reassurance to people out there. >> can somebody who supports medicare for all beat donald trump? >> i'm not going to make that jumts. i think there's a better way. >> reporter: on the stump an issue in his wheelhouse the violence against women act that he helped write. >> so much work we have to do. >> reporter: later a town hal where kids asked some tough questions. >> how are you going to make schools more safe from mass shootings? >> think about this. those of you over 30, could you ever imagine having asked that question when you were a kid. >> reporter: this is biden's third go at the presidency which he admits is tricky. >> the good news is the bad news, everybody knows me and has an opinion. it's harder to mislabel me or to say something about me that's not true. i have weaknesses. it's easier to talk about the weaknesses. the generic point is that people know who i am. >> reporter: familiarity and comfort draw voters to see him, even though some aren't completely sold. >> you're holding biden signs and you're still not 100%? >> well, as i say, we like the message. we have always loved joe biden. >> he's a likable guy. he says what it is. sometimes he has his little gaffes but that's what makes joe joe. >> first time you ran for president it was 1987. >> that's right. >> the world has changed. >> yep. >> a lot. >> a lot. >> have you changed with it? >> yes, i have. you have to grow. i mean everything is totally different. >> i've been wanting to ask you this because i've been hearing it anecdotically from voters who are about your age who say, i love joe biden but i'm his able and i can't imagine being president. what do you tell them in. >> i tell them, i say, watch me. look, the one thing that i've learned is, hopefully that with age comes experience, with experience comes good judgment, and with good judgment comes wisdom. >> reporter: eric swensen told us he came to this town hall with concerns about biden's age. >> now you've seep him up and close and personal do you still have that? >> i think he would be just fine. >> if here in new hampshire you don't come in first or second, do you feel confident your candy saedy can survive? >> i think i'm going to do better in both places than that. >> say hypothetically. >> i'm not going to go there. >> reporter: on this day on the trail with joe biden he was relentlessly on message. >> i think i'm better prepared in this moment than any time in my entire life to deal with the problems the next president will have to face. >> reporter: and that was a joe biden who jim and poppy, was very candid and very comfortable in talking about his challenges, but also the experience that he has and the plus and minuses of that. >> he's got to be used to these questions and some were pointed, good on you. there's more at stake in 2020 than the presidential race, house and senate, and it's notable peter king, announcing his retirement. he's 16 by our count not seeking higher office. we have that list. what's happening here? >> what's happening here it is no fun to be in the minority in the house of representatives. number two, pete kingrs the political reality, is a very large figure who is very well-known in his new york district but in a district that has become increasingly democratic. he won just the last time around by ten points less than he did in 2016. >> interesting. >> democrats have been targeting that seat. but he's also been there for a long time and felt it was time to move on. what's interesting is his daughter was a local politician. he was hoping she would take his seat. she announced she's moving with her husband to north carolina so instead of holding on again until she's ready, he said i'm out. >> interesting bellwether we saw a interesting phenomenal in 2018. dana bash, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> that was a great piece. thank you so much. so former vice president you heard from him with dana, hs live town hall moderated by our own erin burnett tonight in iowa starts at 9:00 eastern only right here. in a new book the former ambassador to the u.n. appointed by trump nikki haley describes a white house in chaos and says two top trump appointed officials tried to recruit her to undermine the president, believing he was a danger to the country. it's remarkable. we'll have more. >> this cnn town hall brought to you by shurm. mini is a different kind of car. ♪ ladies and gentlemen for a different kind of drive. ♪ ladies and gentlemen for the drive to create a new kind of family car, that became a new kind of race car. for the drive to rebel, zag. for the drive that's inside you. and inside us. that's the drive under the hood of every mini. because every mini is... for the drive. ♪ what's the time? 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[ tires screech ] the big idaho potato truck is touring america telling folks about idaho potatoes. and i want it back. what is it with you and that truck? welcome back. so another new book, this one from former ambassador to the united nations nikki haley and in it, she calls out former chief of staff john kelly and former secretary of state rex tillerson saying they tried to undermine the president and she claims they tried to draft her to join them. >> they apparently thought he was a danger to the country and would cost lives. kelly writes they confided in me when they resisted the president they were not being insubdords nant they were trying to save the country. john kelly told "the washington post" if providing the president with the best staffing advice from across the government so he could make an informed decision is working against trump then guilty as charged. >> white house correspondent kaitlan collins is here traveling with the president over the weekend. i'll ask you what i asked you off the air, why? what is it in for nikki haley to essentially throw tillerson and the former chief of staff under the bus? >> i think she knows how the president feels towards them. what you've seen from nikki haley since she left the white house straddle this line from distancing herself from the president but also not criticizing the president. she has some very small criticisms in this book, but other than that there's nothing really overarching in it. i think a lot of it, there's been a lot of rumors about her potentially becoming vice president, replacing vice president mike pence on the ticket in 2020. i'm not sure that's the case here. i think they've pushed those remores back. she's a rising star in the republican party and wants to potentially take political moves in 2024. something she says she's not focused on, but it's obvious what her potential future could hold. >> the real headline, two administration officials appointed by this president, the secretary of state and chief of staff who believed the president was a danger to the country and felt the need to recruit other members of the administration to counter that in some way. in line what you've heard from the "anonymous" book and going back to rod rosenstein raising the idea of the 25th amendment. >> and you hear from people inside the white house when there are situations like this where people try to work against the president or go against his decisions is that people say these deep state bureaucrats career officials that is not what john kelly is. that's not what rex tillerson is. and essentially they tried to push back on things they thought the president shouldn't do, not out of political motivation but because it was wrong. you saw that in john kelly's statement saying he provided the president with the best ethical and legal advice is telling us what happened behind closed doors. as the administration tries to push back against the anonymous account of what's happening in the west wing, nikki haley's book gets at that trying to criticize john kelly and rex tillerson, his show the is top two aides to the president thought on multiple occasions he was doing the wrong thing. >> and no response -- >> go ahead. >> john kelly could have said that's not true, i have full and utter confidence in this president and never worked against him. he did not say that. >> he didn't. it's pretty telling he didn't. >> tillerson hasn't responded? >> no. >> appreciate the reporting. it is today very important day, veterans day. a day to honor those who have honored the ultimate sacrifice for this country. what happens to many veterans when they come home after done serving. what is their next opportunity be? our next guest is on top of that. a lot will happen in your life. wrinkles just won't. neutrogena® rapid wrinkle repair's derm-proven retinol works so fast, it takes only one week to reveal younger looking skin. neutrogena® with pronamel repair toothpaste, more minerals enter deep into the enamel's surface. you have an opportunity to repair what's already been damaged-it's amazing. you have an opportunity to repair wh♪ even thoughbeen ♪ i find you so captivating ♪ and i'm done with hesitating let's see where this goes? save on a gift that says it all. ♪ jared today is a solemn day. these are live pictures now from the tomb of the unknown soldie in arlington, virginia, as american honors our veterans. president trump is in new york for the veterans day parade, the 100th anniversary of that event. >> there are, of course, more than 18 million courageous veterans living in the u.s. right now and today communities across the country are honoring their service. our next guest is making their transition from service to civilian life a little bit easier, hopefully, by helping them find a job that so many need. the president of hiring our heros and senior adviser at the u.s. chamber of commerce, of course, thank you for this and for your service to this country as well. eric, let me begin there. i think that is something that a lot of people just don't know fully or appreciate fully, is how hard it is for these veterans to get a meaningful job, to really provide enough for their family when they come home. is it a crisis? >> well, i wouldn't call it a crisis. i think we've done a lot over the last eight years to really mitigate what was a crisis back in the 2011 time frame. we've worked very aggressively to help make those connections to employers, but we still have challenges. and challenges that we have to really work hard as a country to help address. a lot of these young men and women are coming from rural parts of the country, who don't necessarily understand the depth and breadth of real economic opportunity in this country, so we work really aggressively to help expose them and help connect them to companies who are really changing the economic landscape, to really create that long-term economic opportunity that they so richly deserve. >> the numbers seem to show the progress here, right? because the unemployment rate among veterans is now lower than that of the non-veteran population. i don't believe it was always that way. but veterans leaving the military oftentimes, they're still carrying with them service-related injuries. how have companies responded to that? i know a lot of companies have initiatives to make this a priority. >> yes. there's no doubt that the american business community has stepped up to the plate and hit a home run over the last decade when it comes to helping our service members and those who are injured, ill, and wounded find those meaningful economic opportunities. and so, you know, we're really honored to work with a lot of great companies who have done a lot of great things on that front. but they're starting to really treat military talent as a tremendous talent set that helps move their business forward in ways that they haven't been able to achieve in the past. you know, we are in a war for talent, and companies understand that they're in that war and they're really leveraging this military talent set to really take them over the top. >> i do think to that point, eric, it's notable. i mean, we've seen, especially over the last three years or so, big corporations, whether it's coca-cola or starbucks or jpmorgan or pretty much all the big fortune 500 companies make this commitment to hire "x" amount of veterans. but what you guys have done, i think, starting in 2012, is to take it even further and say, it's not just an opportunity to provide enough for the veteran, you have to also keep in mind their spouse. and provide opportunity for military spouses. >> there's no doubt about that. you know, you look at the economic data across america, and the reality is that most american families are in a dual-income status. and that is not the case for most military families, due to the transient nature of moves. so we really have to take a close look at the military family as a whole and create those economic opportunities. and the reality is that the transition for the service member is much easier if their spouse has a long-term meaningful career opportunity. and unfortunately, this is one area where, as a country, we have to do better. military spouses are still facing 25% unemployment across the country and if we don't address this, we're going to face a real challenge long-term, as we look to maintain the all-volunteer force. >> yeah. well, we're glad with the progress you've made, eric. and it's great to have you on to here about. i'm sure folks at home are happy to hear about that on veterans day, as well. >> thank you, really glad to be here. well, from behind closed doors now into the public spot. the house democrats now set to bring the impeachment inquiry out into the hope during a very critical week. stay with cnn. ebiotic triple oat complex balances skin's microbiome. so skin looks like this and you feel like this. aveeno® skin relief. get skin healthy™ ♪ even though ♪ i find you so captivating ♪ and i'm done with hesitating let's see where this goes? 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