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if you win, they'll make it like hohum. and if you lose they'll say trump suffered the greatest loss in the history of the world. you can't let that happen to me. >> well, may have happened. this morning a source close to the white house who speaks to the president regularly says republicans are underestimating voter intensity against trump and that could be dangerous for them in 2020. adding that it is, quote, a bad omen as well for impeachment. >> let's turn to virginia because in virginia overnight, a clean sweep for democrats winning majorities in the state house and the state senate. republicans, though, can celebrate a big important win in mississippi's governors race. lieutenant governor tate reeves holding off an upset bid by the attorney general jim hood. president trump and vice president pence went to the state to campaign. let's bring in our friend. i find it the most, again, as jim said, a state that trump won by 30 points. bevin won by nine points. this was a hail mary for beshear and he pulled it off. you had the president with -- going there. you had a mike pence bus tour, major spending from national groups. what happened. >> i think basically what happened is that it turns out candidates do matter and matt bevin was a very unpopular governor. the president went there to try and save him. the fact was the president was not enough. at least, you know, obviously, we haven't called that race but it looks like beshear is most likely going to pull that out. there are three basic things that occurred last night in kentucky. two of which should be concerning to the president. one which is an interesting anecdote. if you look in the major metropolitan areas you saw beshear running up the totals there. that's indicative of the trump era. number two which should be concerning. in the cincinnati suburbs those are traditionally republican suburbs in kentucky. cincinnati is just north of the kentucky border. those flip to the democratic candidate. and the third, coal country which is where trump has -- that was where he ran up the score against hillary clinton. there were counties there. thirkts 30, 40, 50-point wins. and if you put those all it that's why beshear won. >> it's not just the urban areas and the suburbs, but if you slim the margin of victory in those rural districts, that spells trouble for 2020. >> let's talk about virginia. virginia has been trending blue for a number of years now. and now democrats solidifying control across the board. >> yeah, absolutely. took back the statehouse, the state senate. they made major gains in 2017 in the state house. if you look at where they made those gains if you're trying to create a full picture of what occurred, you saw major gains in the suburban areas. and that, to me is so indicative of this trump era overall where he's losing some of those key swing voters he was able to carry over hillary clinton. he lost those and virginia is a state that used to be very republican, right, you remember george w. bush winning those suburban areas back in 2000 but that state has changed completely. and what i'll just add to that point, if you look at how the popular vote went in the state house of virginia last night, that went for the democrats by nine points. that's the same as it was in 2017 and the year following that. what you see in the house of representatives you saw the democrats carrying the u.s. house of representatives by nine points. that could be a tell-tale sign. >> absolutely. we're going to be watching it. ryan nobles joins us now on the ground there. you've been covering this race in virginia. tell us what you are hearing from republicans and democrats in response. >> to harry's point about the energy and enthusiasm of democratic voters in virginia, this is what they call an off off-year election in virginia politics. no statewide candidates, no federal races. these were state house races and local races. generally the turnout is very, very low. not too many people even paying attention to the election. i remember as a local reporter barely even covering it in the local news. that was not the case last night. you saw a big turnout in numbers. numbers very similar to gubernatorial election years. and the democrats and republicans that i talked to last night attributed that to one thing. and that was president trump. you saw a democratic voter motivated to get out and send a message to the white house. yes, they were concerned about these local issues in kind of a broad sense and you can see what that led to. the democrats taking the house now. a two-seat majority there. still a couple of seats that have left to be decided on the house side as well. a big move over. the democrats now taking a big lead there. you'll remember that in the house of delegates two years ago that there were -- this was decided by a race that was a tie. they had to draw a name out of a bowl to decide who was going to be in the majority of the virginia house of delegates. this is a sea change in virginia. this was a state that was reliably republican for a long time. such is not the case anymore. and the demographic shift. this is something happening all over the country. and democrats in virginia believe this is something that will give us an idea of what's going to happen in 2020. >> state houses matter. they draw the districts. and for future congressional elections that has major impacts. harry cillizza and alex burns for "the new york times" join us. selena, you are seeing a continuation of trends we saw in the 2018 midterms here, which is urban areas certainly big turnout there but suburban areas swinging democratic making a real difference in those swing districts here. how concerning for the republican party as we look ahead to 2020? >> both parties have been shifting since 2004. and this is sort of -- it's starting to now settle in. if i was the president, the last thing i would be doing is underestimating support against him. it's always to -- it's always the best sort of plan to expect an underwhelming turnout and so that you can motivate your voters to show up. i think what happened in kentucky, i just got back from there. i think it was more about bevin. he was very unpopular for a number of reasons. people thought of him as a carpet bagger. not from the state. wasn't really in tune with the culture. and in state elections, those things matter. but then if you look down ballot at the ag race and secretary of state race and the agriculture race, republicans had great turnout, great wins. so i really think it was about being a bad candidate. >> okay, so i hear you. he certainly infuriated the teachers in the state and rolled back some of that medicaid expansion his father enacted as governor. but alex burns, the rhetoric was very trumpy. so, yes, republicans won across the state in kentucky. statewide elections, except for this one by a comfortable margin, but is it just bevin or something about the rhetoric? >> well, i think there are a couple different currents going on here, right? that it's not matt bevin alone that gets you a result like this in a world where the national environment were better for republicans, better for the president in particular. he probably could have given the narrowness of this margin, he probably would have won this race if the president was a couple points better nationally. if there was just a sense that partisanship trumped absolutely everything. this is the kind of state where we saw routinely during the obama years and even the early days of the trump administration where partisanship and the president's personality just ov overrode everything else and some of this is unquestionably about matt bevin in particular being a divisive governor, not a gifted politician, a guy who made a lot of bad choices almost from the start. but he won by a very convincing margin in 2015. in a state like kentucky, in the trump era, losing a nine-point win, even by the tiniest margin which seems to be happening here really takes some doing and takes multiple factors. >> this strikes me as key here. in kentucky at least it was not just big suburban turnout against the president. it was districts that he won -- he killed in in 2016. in this case, coal mining districts that either that margin slimmed or went the other way. that combination has to spell trouble if you are looking at -- and coal mining issues that had economic consequences from the president like, say, michigan, where folks are suffering from the trade war. tell us what that means. >> i think it's so important. we always say, oh, did someone win a county or lose a county? it's about margins. there's plenty of ground the president can make up. let's say he's losing in suburban areas or urban areas. in the western part of the state of pennsylvania, districts that used to be democratic flipped to trump but he needs to be able to expand upon those margins. what the kentucky result tells me is that's not necessarily a guarantee. if all of a sudden the president isn't able to expand upon his margins in rural areas like he did in 2016, then he's in big trouble because essentially put the urban and suburban areas are going to say uh-uh. >> what do you think what appears to be bevin's loss means for mcconnell next year? does it mean democrats will pour more money, more effort into backing mcgrath? >> well, here's -- this is how i look at it. this reminds me in 2009, 2010 when barack obama, then president, came out for martha coakley in massachusetts over scott brown. did a big rally. jon corzine in new jersey did a big rally. arlen specter. and all of them lost. but then the president went back and won in 2012. so a lot of it, i think, sometimes has to do with the candidate in the state. and a lot of it has to do with policy. barack obama was really smart in like reading the tea leaves in what those elections told him. and those states went back and vote forward hed ford for him i. >> what obama did was he read those results and corrected course, right? >> that's what i was trying to say. >> does someone like president trump look at the results here or the results in the midterms or the results in the 2017 off-year elections and say, gosh, i ought to do something about those suburban voters. he's had a number of opportunities. gun legislation was one of them. vaping was another one. he doesn't seem inclined to do that. it was one of the things obama did that frustrated his libera base, but it probably secured him re-election. taking that message from the suburbs in 2009 and in 2010 and really organizing his re-election campaign. not exclusively but to a great degree around making sure that he didn't get blown out by mitt romney the way democrats got blown out by chris christie and bob mcdonald. >> good points. smart minds. thank you all. it's really interesting to watch what happened. all right. happening right now on capitol hill, the first witness to show up this week in the impeachment inquiry. that is david hale. he is the third highest ranking state department official and is now testifying behind closed doors. we're already hearing a little bit, though, about what he is telling lawmakers. plus, new stunning details in that horrific attack on an american family. there they are in mexico. we're learning that a 13-year-old boy walked some six hours to get help and that this family may have been targeted. some farms grow food. this one grows fuel. ♪ exxonmobil is growing algae for biofuels. that could one day power planes, propel ships, and fuel trucks... and cut their greenhouse gas emissions in half. algae. its potential just keeps growing. ♪ its potential just keeps growing. she's the one the one for you when you know you just know she isn't perfect but she's perfect for you love is rare love's unique love is her love is him love is us ♪ the vera wang love collection designed for zales, the diamond store. billions of problems. dry 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diplomat. a million-dollar trump donor. hardly a never trumper. and yet he is now confirming, clarifying if you will, what he says he couldn't remember when he testified a few weeks ago under oath. and this is what it is. that he now says, under oath in this new revised statement to lawmakers that military aid was held up until ukraine met certain white house demands. namely, a public announcement of an investigation. let's get to capitol hill. senior congressional correspondent manu raju is on all of this. so, obviously, a key change and from what i see, the republican response led by jim jordan is now -- doesn't matter what sondland says. volker is the only person you can believe. >> that's right. and i -- they just spoke to reporters downstairs on the way in to this closed door hearing today. and the argument coming now from republicans is that what sondland said about amending his testimony in his amendment to his testimony in which he makes it clear that he was under the belief that the reason why military aid was proposed was because there had not yet been this public declaration of investigations they had been seeking for some time. well, now, according to one republican congressman, scott perry, he says, well, that's just sondland's opinion. republican jim jordan going into this testimony and said only kurt volker's testimony which he said there was no quid pro quo is enough for them. they said other witnesses were not in an authoritative position as, say, mr. volker, the special envoy to ukraine. even though the top diplomat to ukraine right now, bill taylor, has testified in an opposite fashion. so you're seeing the republican argument shift a bit in the release of these transcripts saying there's no quid pro quo despite increasing evidence from witnesses that there was. and one other point on the sondland testimony, fiona hill, a witness that also came by, the former top russia adviser in the white house strongly objected to what sondland said in his testimony referring to a meeting that they had. the lawyer for fiona hill actually tweeted out that sondland has fabricated communications with fiona hill over coffee and in that exchange from that testimony, what sondland said was she was pretty upset about her role in the administration. that is something that she is flatly denying. so more witnesses coming out to contradict what gordon sondland said himself in this sworn testimony, guys. >> question, david hale, third highest ranking member in the state department. so this is a significant official in the administration. what do we expect him to testify to today? >> yeah, he was someone who at least notified of this concern that was within the state department about the ouster of the then-ukrainian ambassador marie yovanovitch. according to testimony released this week from mike mckinley who was a former state department official, he said that he had emailed a number of individuals about his concern about marie yovanovitch's ouster. she had been targeted by rudy giuliani and giuliani's associates, targeted by the president himself. and mckinley asked for a show of support from the state department to -- in the midst of her ouster. but, according to the mckinley's testimony, hale was one of the people who did not respond to that email. we're hearing some -- from some other reports in an ap report that he intends to tell congress that the pompeo might -- mike pompeo was reluctant to defend his ukraine ambassador because it would hurt efforts to get military aid to ukraine, and there was concern about how it would be perceived by rudy giuliani. so we'll probably hear more about all that effort, that push to get rid of yovanovitch, the role that giuliani had and concerns he may have had about giuliani's efforts. >> seem to be broad based. that's a consistent story from a number of witnesses and sworn testimony. manu raju, thanks very much. elie honig is here. and sam vinegrad as well. good to have you here. sam, you worked a little bit with david hale. >> i did. >> his resume speaks for itself. what do you make of what we know, a little bit about what he's telling lawmakers right now? >> i think one thing we should expect is that the under secretary is going to tell lawmakers about the impact of this irregular channel and the impact of undermining u.s. ambassadors like marie yovanovitch. we heard about that from bill taylor and yovanovitch. and so we should expect hale to lay that out. also he is still at the state department. this was something that came up in some of the released transcripts yesterday. he was part of a meeting about how the state department is supposed to respond to congressional inquiries. there's a potential obstruction of congress, article that could be introduced. i think he'll talk about that and finally, poppy, he'll get to this question of why pompeo was so reluctant to defend the ambassador. on the email chain about the statement and finally in his role as under secretary, he is in charge of thousands of staff. they likely would have come to him with concerns about what was happening more generally. >> elie honig, forgive me for guessing what the next line of defense will be from republicans here as each of those dominos falls. what you don't have yet is a direct tie to the president. the president ordering sondland, volker. you don't give him that aid until they make this statement. of course, the white house is barring white house officials from testifying and that includes rick perry, secretary of energy, mick mulvaney. do you need that to make a credible case for a quid pro quo and to bolster an impeachment case? >> in an ideal world, you would have that, but, no, you do not need it. you can build it through other channels. and to that point, do we have a direct link to the president? i'd point to the july 25th call. there's a case to be made that right there he lays it out. also, the white house needs to be really careful about putting too much on kurt volker who now seems to be the night in shining armor for the republicans and trump defenders. the statement yesterday was, well, volker said there was no quid pro quo. okay. i'm not sure that's an accurate characterization of his testimony but he texted on july 25th, these are the texts we saw before, heard from white house. assuming president zelensky convinces trump he will investigate, we will nail down date for visit to washington. that's a quid pro quo right there. >> i hear you. but let me counter with this, and that is his testimony from the transcript released yesterday afternoon, kurt volker, quote, i was never asked to do anything that i thought was wrong. the question becomes how you see it, how you weigh those statements. >> so two things there. maybe he didn't think it was wrong. i think he's wrong to think it's not wrong. if you have someone that testifies to something here in november but texted something different back in july, the texts back in july takes precedence. it's much more credible. it's what he did and said at the time. >> and mick mulvaney hasn't agreed to testify in front of congress. he did say that everything sondland did was at the president's direction and he did say there was a quid pro quo. we have to be careful when we read the white house statement saying that the president didn't order this. we have mulvaney's words in front of the american people at the very least. >> and the call transcript. before we go, elie, this may be the extent of witness testimony that democrats get here. if the white house effort is, a, successful or stretches out long enough in the courts so that it doesn't happen before the timeline the democrats want here, your view, do you have enough? >> i think you do. you base it on the call, on the next. and you don't have an inner inner circle witness. ideally you'd get one. maybe bolton, mulvaney, rooney. you have enough with these players who are involved in the decision making, the career military and diplomatic officials. when you look at their testimony, i think it's a compelling case. >> elie and sam, great to have you both. thanks so much. a source close to the white house says that democratic wins on tuesday could be bad news for the president. we'll have more coming up. ♪ the amount of student loan debt i have i'm embarrassed to even say i felt like i was going to spend my whole adult life paying this off thanks to sofi, i can see the light at the end of the tunnel as of 12pm today, i am debt free ♪ we have no debt, we don't owe anybody anything, and it's fantastic ♪ when didwhen i needed ton? jumpstart sales. build attendance for an event. help people find their way. fastsigns designed new directional signage. ...and got them back on track. get started at fastsigns.com. unitedhealthcare medicare advantage plans come with a lot to take advantage of. like free dental and vision care and so much more. can't wait till i'm 65. free dental care and eye exams, and free 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how concerned you are about what this said about republican chances in 2020. >> we're not concerned at all. some of those governors races are very specific, very parochial and, of course, governor bevin was a controversial figure there because he took on a lot of big issues and made a lot of political enemies. i'm down in louisiana. the president is coming here tonight for our governors race. a run-off november 16th. he'll return again before that run-off. we're going to win that race in louisiana, and it will be largely because of the president's influence. >> the president went to kentucky and that doesn't appear to have gotten bevin across the line here. >> yeah, but, you know, some of those governors races are very specific to things going on on the ground there. a lot of factors that are in play. and that was a tough race. i think governor bevin was down pretty significantly in the polls before the president got involved. so, clearly, his assistance helped and i don't think that one is fully decided yet. it sounds like bevin may not have conceded so there may be more to come. >> about 5,000 votes. he did win by 9% the last cycle. let's talk about the impeachment inquiry. as you know, the president's appointee as ambassador to the eu, gordon sondland, he revised his testimony on tuesday. and he said in his view, there was a quid pro quo, that u.s. military assistance was withheld from ukraine in the middle of a war against russia to force, in, fects, an investigation of biden, his son and other issues here. do you deny a quid pro quo took place here? >> well, look, we reject the narrative that sondland somehow said the president demanded x for y. there's nothing in the transcript that says that. and, clearly, what's happened here and what you can infer from reading all of his -- sondland's actions were based on sondland's assumptions. there were many assumptions about what he said and that was based on his ideas about what was happening and not what the president said. >> i asked that argument -- i've heard that argument, congressman. this is a senior official in a trump administration, an ambassador to the eu appointed by the president and he said that he assumed this was illegal to make this connection. by the way, and it wasn't just the transcript of the call because sondland describes meetings weeks before that call, weeks after the call, where this explicit connection was made. so the transcript itself is not the only piece of evidence here. >> yeah, but he also said, and this is in the transcript, when he asked the president directly, point blachk, what do you want from ukraine, the president said i want nothing. i want no quid pro quo. >> why was the aid withheld in the middle of a war? >> well, first of all, we don't know all those facts to be certain. we know there's a timeline problem because some of the actions sondland is describing is six weeks after the infamous phone call the president had with zelensky and everything that we're all talking about right now is conjecture. it's based on a transcript of what sondland said based on his own assumptions and the fact we don't have all the evidence is what we're really mostly concerned about. you have adam schiff in the basement doing these secret inquiries and he's releasing things by drip by drip. so you and i, look, i'm on the house judiciary committee. the committee with appropriate jurisdiction. >> i've heard the talking points and as you know, the transcripts show, republicans are in that room and had equal time with democrats to ask questions. and the transcripts clearly no longer secret because you and i are reading them. they're public. >> this -- yeah, this transcript has been leaked but many of the others have not. >> not leaked. released. two a day this week. not leaked. they're being released two a day in public. it's not a leak. it's -- >> we want all of it to come out. this is -- this is my point, jim. this is not a talking point. it's a fact. i'm on house judiciary committee with appropriate jurisdiction. i'm the ranking member on the constitution subcommittee, and i, as a duly elected member of congress, cannot -- i don't have access to all this evidence supposedly that they've been deriving down in the basement. this is a sham impeachment process. ultimately the american people lose faith in the institution if they can't trust the process. so on substance and on process, we have a lot of problems with this. >> to be fair now, everybody has access to those transcripts because they're posted on the website but you voted against the rules for the inquiry as did all republicans and two democrats. i just want -- and those rules for the inquiry going forward include public testimony from these witnesses with an opportunity for republicans in public to cross-examine them and challenge them. i wonder if your goal here is transparency, why not vote for those rules that would give you greater access but also your constituents and people at home can watch and make judgments themselves? >> boy, how i wish we could achieve that end. and that's what we've been demanding from the beginning. in addition to that -- >> a little skype freeze there. let's see if it comes back. we've all been through this before in calls. goodness. we lost the skype connection there. listen, we'll give the congressman an opportunity to come back so he can complete the thought there. but our thanks to -- oh, he's back. congressman, sorry. we lost you midway and everybody has had a skype call freeze before. completie your point there. i want to give you a chance to explain. >> thank you. the reason we voted against that resolution is because it did include some transparency but the problem we had is that it gave adam schiff and ultimately chairman jerry nadler and judiciary total authority over the proceedings. they can decide almost everything. they have veto power over what evidence is presented and how it's heard and what charges are brought. we want full transparency across the board. and that resolution didn't do anything to solve those concerns. it only reiterated what we've been saying from the beginning has been a sham. this is a predetermined political outcome they decided back in early 2017. the narrative has changed many times but they're trying to take down donald trump and this is just the latest vehicle to do it. >> i should note that previous impeachment inquiries, clinton and nixon, the majority party did have veto power. that was a consistent thing in those committee investigations. congressman, we appreciate your time. taking time from your home district to join us. you're always welcome to come on the broadcast. >> thank you, jim. we'll be back. appreciate it. >> i think he'll be with the president tonight. >> he will. >> that big election next week. >> good to have him on. this tragic story out of mexico. officials in mexico have made an arrest possibly connected to the brutal slaying of nine 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no signal reaches farther or is more reliable. and it's built 5g ready. authorities in mexico say that they this morning have arrested a suspect, possibly connected to that brutal massacre of nine americans from a mormon community. >> just a horrible crime. officials say the suspect was holding two bound and gagged hostages, had several rifles, large amount of ammunition. it's unknown if those hostages were related to the family. cnn's patrick oppmann is following the story from mexico city. oe early on there were questions as to whether these were mistaken targets? do we now know if they were the intentional targets of this attack? >> you know, despite all the horrible details coming out, we really don't know that much more. the family members have said very clearly that there was not a gunfight going on. they did not wander into a conflict between the cartels. they feel they were targeted. and even the suspect that was arrested, the hostages apparently did not come from the family. they say they're not missing anybody at this point. and it may just be the fact that this is a lawless region where there are people with guns, multiple cartels operating and the attorney general of chihuahua state said there's not been a direct contact. he was talking to a local media this morning. there's not been a direct contact made between this arrest and the shooting that has rocked this mormon community. so whether or not this is the first person they've arrested and they've tied to this terrible crime or just a coincidence that someone happened to be in the area with heavy duty rifles we're told and hostages. it may just be the fact this is a lawless area of mexico. what is unusual, though is how quickly this family has come out, speaking out against the crimes and they are now calling on the mexican government to take the fight to the cartels. >> mexican authorities announcing their first arrest in the ambush attack that killed nine americans in northern mexico. >> juanita and four of my grand children are burnt and shot up. >> the victims, three mothers and six children, including two infants, were all dual citizens of the united states and mexico. and members of the mormon community. the family was traveling in a convoy of three vehicles when they were attacked. juanita miller was driving one of the cars with four of her children, including her nearly 8-month-old twins. >> nita was one of the most vibrant, happy souls that i've ever met. she was just had so much spark and life in her. >> reporter: the car was shot at and set ablaze. >> none of my grandchildren made it out. burnt to a crisp. and my daughter-in-law. they're about as innocent as they come. >> the two vehicles were attacked about ten miles down the road. each rit riddled with bulle holes. donna langford was killed in one of those cars along with 2 of the 9 children with her. and christina johnson was killed while traveling with faith, her 7-month-old baby who miraculously survived. >> we don't know how she survived it because around the door in front of where she was, was full of bullet holes. her car seat face had bullets and somehow this baby escaped unscathed. >> reporter: 13-year-old devon langford survived the attack and hid six siblings in brush on the side of the road. a family member tells cnn that he then walked 14 miles for six hours to find help. his 9-year-old sister also left the group to find help and went missing. relatives and soldiers found the girl alive hours later. mexican authorities say the family may have been targeted after standing up to drug cartels in the past. family members say they had been threatened recently. >> our family was picked to be the ones to stir up trouble and to start a war. >> jim and poppy, over 30,000 mexicans died last year in this country's epidemic of drug-related violence. and these latest killings and apparently targeted women and children appear to be something of a tipping point. people are telling me they've just 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this by veteran's day. is that right? >> reporter: well, that's what the general thinking at the pentagon, if he decides to go ahead, he would do it around the veteran's day holiday, all emerging after a fox and friends report. we know they reported that the president was likely to exonerate three service members involved in cases of alleged and potential war crimes. defense secretary mark esper taking the unusual step of directly saying this is not a good idea, putting together the history and ready to present it to the president, trying to convince him not to exonerate people that may have been involved in war crimes. let's go quickly who these three service members are, leiutenant quint war rep found guilty for ordering his men to fire on men on a motor psych until afghanistan, eddie gallagher, a navy seal demoted after he was acquitted of some charges but found guilty of posing with a corporation, which obviously is not allowed. his rank could potentially be restored by the 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