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CNNW CNN Newsroom With Poppy Harlow And Jim Sciutto June 18, 2019

For operational reasons. Usually the immigration and Customs Enforcement officers dmot wado not want their targets to coming. If President Trump was discussing a real raid scheduled for next week, hes preempted his own administration on that own front. Why is the president talking about something in the past saying doing Something Like that would put the officers at risk. It could be because today is the day the president is relaunching his campaign in orlando, florida. This is something he goes back to. Going back to this idea that he himself is trying to do things to stem this problem theres a reason the raids have been so controversial in the past. Were talking about deporting families, children, in their foam, in the homes, in their places of work. I think it will be major story and one that will be really unique for this administration. Lets talk about the legality. Is there any legal peril the Trump Administration could get into. It depends on what they are planning to do. Anyone who is here whether your legal or illegal has certain rights under the constitution and our laws. The administration has to comply with those laws and with the constitution. They are entitled to immigration hearings. Those require immigration judges. They have to find the person is deportable. They have to determine their home country will take them. All of this before someone can be deported. The the notion within a week or so millions of people will start being deported is just false. There just arent the resources to do that. Theres not enough time to do that. Let me ask you about the Trump Administration, senior officials within the Administration Last year threatened the mayor of oakland, california with criminal prosecution because she warned the public. She said i think there are these big i. C. E. Round ups coming. They were infuriated she did that. They went as far as threatening criminal prosecution. Lets put the irony aside of what the president did last night, which is the same thing. Is there anything legally wrong with doing that . Thats an empty threat. In other words to charge someone with like an aiding and abetting crime. Youd have to have a specific person youre charging. Theres nothing here that would cause the mayor of oakland to be worried about criminal prosecution. Its more of a political issue that shes interfering with what they want to do politically and trying to tamp that down. What do can you see as the biggest enforcement issue here for the administration in terms of doing this when it comes to the separation of families and children. We had the former i. C. E. Director on with the Obama Administration who talked about the way that administration approached this because they did something similar at the end of obamas term. He said it was more selective enforcement. Trying to keep families together. With this administrations history with separating children from parents at the border, what do you see as the biggest hurdle here . Well, they are talking a different policy tact. Its one thing to separate families from children when the adult needs to go to prison because they have a criminal record or theyre being charged with crime at the time. Its another issue when its an administrative proceeding, like, for example, a family is claiming asylum and theres no crime at issue at all. Its just a matter of choices. The Obama Administration chose one way and trump is going a different direction. There are obviously many millions of people throughout and many advocates who believe thats unfair and morally wrong and are pushing against it. Thats what they have to contend with in making those dhochoices. Okay. Appreciate your Legal Expertise this morning. Now well talk about the politics. Jim. Joining me is a member of President Trumps reelection advisory counsel. Good to have you on the program. Good morning. Why did the president just telegraph a Law Enforcement operation which former i. C. E. Director told us puts the i. C. E. s officers at risk . This is not in one location. The president is the president. Hes just put people around the country on note. Its a very big difference. They are going after the one Million People who had final deportation orders against them by judges. They have exhausted their legal opportunities and they still refuse to go. Why not keep the plan secret rather than announcing it on the day. Youre not saying where there going. Its the whole United States of america. Thats a difference. Where is the function of the president announcing raids before they happen . What purpose does that serve . Its the same thing as were going to build a wall. Okay. Were announcing were going to build a wall. Mitch mcconnell will bring up for a vote. He said next week a free standsing bill. Now well see if its more about the resistance or whether they care about whats happening at the border. Its 4. 5 million bill that would relieve the terrible conditions right now. Congress has to do something about this. Weve had democrats and republicans thon the broadcast o have made the point. You havent given a reason the president telegraphed this. Its completely different from oakland. I dont see any reason and theres a huge difference in saying youve already exhausted your legal limits here. You have defied for a second time. The first time without authorization. A judge said you have to be deported. I want to ask about the politics of this. According to the republicans own numbers in the 2018 midterms, the hard line on immigration hurt republican candidates. In some areas. The focus on immigration resulted in late deciders breaking for the democrats by double digits in 2018. Why will this help in 2020 if it hurt in 2018 . I think people see it even worse of an issue as it was two years ago. We have a humanitarian crisis which wasnt necessarily part of the mix back then as part of the what the press was even reporting. There was nothing over there happening. Mid terms were just six months ago. It was a very different time. Even in some special leelection where republicans have begun to win again, the first two years was a wave. Republicans are starting to wake up a bit now. Like the victory is over with. Now we have to turn our attention and we have taken a beaten over the last two years. Locally, statewide and federally. I think republicans are starting the wake up. Independents are seeing the economy is doing well. Independents are not breaking toward trump. The president has a huge deficit. 16 months before the election. If we go back in time, i know youve reported on this too, from reagan on up, i mean obama at this point going into 2012, 16 months was down by eight months. This is a president never broken above 50 support. The first time thats happened with sating president. His numbers are going up at the right time. Two polls had him at 50 . The average polls are always down. The point is, hes been going up at the right time. Theres big issues at the top of voters mind. Cite one poll that shows the president , independents breaking toward thesaying the numbers ar going up. Heres what id like to see him do. Totally cut against the grain. Not only campaign in michigan and grand rapids and other area, id like him the go into detroit and say, you know what, i said to you two years ago, what have you got to lose . Look whats happened. Weve had the Unemployment Rate is the lowe esests the been for africanamericans. Why is he behind in those key states . Hes taken a beating for the most part. For biden he has name recognition. Hes the president. Bieden has name recognition n the democrat side. I think the president has his core which is rock solid. Thats why i say a surprise visit to detroit is something thats completely different. I think hes got to go where maybe politically he might be uncomfortable going. To try to turn some of those. To say im foreverybod every. Thank you for taking the hard questions. Good to have you. Still to come, an additional 1,000 american troops are headed to the middle east even though the u. S. And ie roran say they not looking for a fight. Can those tensions be toned down . Harvard rescinds the admission of the parkland shooting survivor. What is he saying . Could possible support from the white house help his case. Dad, we need to talk about something important. You dont need to go anywhere dad, this is your home. The best home to be in is your own. Home instead offers personalized Inhome Services for your loved ones. Home instead senior care. To us, its personal. But were also a cancer fighting, hiv controlling, joint replacing, and depression relieving company. 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Irans president said his country does not want to fight and President Trump tells Time Magazine that the tanker attacks in the gulf of oman were very minor. Nevertheless, 1,000 additional american troops are on their way to the middle east. Thats after a second Carrier Group was stleent there as well. They are urging the u. S. To dial back the rhetorics, threats. Barbara starr is at the pentagon. Fred, i wonder if i can begin with you. I think its great we have someone on the ground there as this is happening. How are iranian officials reading the rhetoric from the u. S. . You have something of a tr contradiction. The president saying this morning the tanker attacks were very minor. Do they tlaread that as a rampi down . Reporter i dont think they read that as a ramping down. I think they read that of chaos in the Trump Administration. What they are thinking, what they tell us is they believe that President Trump fundamentally does not want to start a war in the middle east. Doesnt want to start war in the persian gulf but they believe there are certain people in the administration who are trying to push him in that direction. The name john bolton keeps coming up. It was interesting to see the iranian president came out and says iran does not want a war with anyone, with any country and he took a clear swipe at the Trump Administration. It wasnt even evil. It was almost mocking the Trump Administration. He said to a public audience, you need to understand were dealing with very inexperienced people in washington, d. C. It seems to cape the iranian not very impressed by what they are thinking. They understand a lot of this could go wrong quickly. You have a lot of forces congregating in the region. Just yesterday irans envoy believes iran and the u. S. Could be heading for direct confrontation. Lets listen. Were heading towards a confrontation which is very serious for everybody in the region. I dont know about the strategy of the u. S. On this but im sure that this is a scenario that some people are very forcefully working on it. They would drag the United States into a confrontation. I hope the people in washington would be very careful not to underestimate the iranian determination. Reporter really quick, another thing they said is they are preparing in case a confrontation does take place. One thing that one top level commander said, he said lit be in a broad area that seems to indicate the ie yan rranians sa will voinvolve their militias. Its so great youre on the ground. Barbara, to you at the pentagon. Talk about the trip that mike pompeo is going to talk. The secretary of defense is not going but the goal that pompeo has here in going to central command. I think its partially a signal, a symbol, a visual marker, if you will that the administration is taking all this very seriously. We have indications that the meeting had been set some days ago before tanker attacks. Its not a total surprise. It comes at a time when we have talked about, you know, a thousands troops repositioned to be in the middle east. Troops involved with Fighter Aircraft and Missile Defense for Ground Troops in the middle east. Very much the message from the pentagon. The message from the administration continues to be one of defense and deterrence. The pentagon making it clear its not looking for a shooting war with ie roon. It hopes the Additional Forces will strengthen that message to tehran. Good to have you on this story. Harvard rescinds an a admissions offer to a parkland survivor. Why the student says hes not going to harharvard. Thats next. Run with us. On a john deere z500 series mower. Built to mow better, faster. Because sometimes. When you take a look around. You notice. Your grass is long. Your time is short. And theres no turning back. Nothing runs like a deere™. Run with us. Visit your john deere dealer today, to test drive a z500 or z700 series ztrak™ mower. 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