Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With Poppy Harlow And Jim

Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With Poppy Harlow And Jim Sciutto 20190318



mccain. minutes ago joe biden whom the president calls, quote, a low i.q. individual. sarah westwood is at the white house. on a weekend after 50 people were murdered in new zealand by a white nationalist, that was not the top of mind of the president's tweets at all. why? >> that's a great question and one that many people are asking after president trump spent the weekend going after the late senator john mccain tweeting about reruns of "saturday night live," trying to encourage fox news to bring back a television host that he likes. george conway, a conservative who has been highly critical of president trump throughout his time in office took the twitter to question the president's mental fitness after this weekend of outrage. george conway writing his condition is getting worse. he shared an entry from a manual diagnosing mental disorders. kellyanne conway says she does not agree with her husband when it comes to this topic. >> i don't share those concerns. i have four kids. i was getting out of the house this morning before i got here to talk to the president about substance. i may not be up to speed on all of them. >> reporter: the obvious split in opinion has been sort of a subject of interest for a little while, george conway frequently tweeting out barbs against the president. president trump has been asked about the disagreement in the past. it was in november. he said, he referred to george conway and said he was only speaking out to get publicity for himself. >> sarah westwood, thank you very much. we appreciate it. let's talk about it. our political analysts here, philip mud. gentlemen, good morning to you both. in the words, ron, it was a weekend of nonstop grievances for the leader of the free world. you would think that the top of that list would be the sick individual who carried out that attack in new zealand. why wasn't it? >> first of all, it is consistent with his pattern all the way through his political career. go back to the weekend in march 2016 when he would not immediately condemn david duke and his support before a group of southern primaries. he will not draw a line that excludes this kind of extremist radical violence because it is on a continuum. it is the far end of a continuum of views that are uneasy about demographic change, uneasy about cultural change, that view muslims as more likely to be prone to violence or islam isn't compatible with american ideals and views. his coalition is centered on the portions of america that share to some degree those concerns. that doesn't mean that they are radicalized and going to commit violence. it does mean that he is unwilling to kind of separate that out. that has been consistent all the way through. it is a future not above the way he talks about race. >> all that anyone has to do is look at the stats from the adl, from the justice department on the rise in white nationalist hate and action and murders in this country and around the world. and when the president was asked about it over the past few days does he think it is on the rise his answer was no. the prime minister of new zealand her simple answer was no because the evidence shows it. i wonder from your standpoint given your background in the cia what not explicitly condemning the white nationalist part of this or pointing out this is on the rise, what does that do in terms of opening the door for concerns about future attacks? do you fear that it gives individuals some sick belief that they're not going to be condemned directly for this kind of thinking and behavior? >> i mean, i think there are two implications. one is the one you are discussing which is what i call validation. i'm not suggesting that the president is saying what is happening is appropriate. i'm saying a subgroup of people will say violence is okay just like we saw among islamic extremists. if you don't directly confront them day after day, some group of them will say this validates what i believe. i think there is a more boring issue. let me bore you for 20 seconds. if we cannot have a conversation about the threat at the political level, the bureaucracy particularly at the fbi and counter terrorism center will continue to say that politicians want us to focus on islamic extremism. they are not starting a conversation to say why don't we spend more supre supremeicists. >> murders in the u.s. just last year more than doubled from 2017. 50 white supremacists were responsible for 59% of all extremist related fatalities in the u.s. in 2017. those are the indisputable facts. does the unwillingness so far or clearly not top of mind for the president condemn those facts or just say yes those are the facts? does it move the needle at all for the american people? >> look, i think there are two elements. there is the one that you are mentioning that he will not immediately condemn in the same way that he would violence by undocumented immigrants, for example. that sends i think a clear signal. he is doing something else, as well. something more affirmative. he is continuing to use language that by now is very clear, animates and elevates those at the radical end of this movement. the president talks about immigrants as invaders. he talks about the country as facing an invasion. this is language that when they hear i think from the president the most radical extremes see as evidence that they are advancing in society, that their views are gaining ground. he knows that by now and he continues to use that language. >> do you agree, phil? >> i think so. i mean, there is a consistent message here which is the president builds up a problem. invaders coming from across the border, a muslim ban. the problem with north korea, he created a problem with the little rocket man and got off the plane and said i solved it. what the president has to do is say despite whether you know it, we have a significant threat and i am the stable genius to solve it. i think the message is clear. he wants to be the solver in chief. you can't do that without create ag problem in the first place. >> appreciate you both on this this morning. also right now, there is a man hunt underway in the netherlands after a mass shooting inside a tram. authorities say three people are dead, nine injured, three of those are in serious condition. right now the authorities are not ruling out terrorism as a potential motive. this hour a turkish born man is being named as the suspect and police are warning the public do not approach. earlier today in new zealand the prime minister vowed to roll out new and tighter gun laws in ten days. authorities are investigating what they could or should have known about the alleged gunman before he murdered 50 people and wounded dozens more in two christ church mosques on friday. martin savidge joins us this morning in christ church. the pain there, the utter shock is so palpable, a place by definition is so welcoming to outsiders. >> reporter: if anyone put a list together and said which country would you pick, that would be the last to have an attack like this, new zealand would have been it. that has been shattered not just for people that live in this country but for much of the world. that clearly is not the case. it is striking, poppy, how similar what has transpired here we can measure against a litany of mass killings that have taken place in the united states. what i cannot explain to you is just it has never happened here before and they never thought it would happen here. just like in the united states after a massive death toll caused by guns, the debate over gun control. in this country, they have fairly liberal laws when it comes to gun ownership at least compared to other nations in the region. compared to the u.s. it is higher. you have to get a permit. for that, there is a very strict vetting process before you can buy guns. the gunman was able to get quite an arsenal including semi-automatic weapons. today the prime minister met with her cabinet. they have begun to roll out what is going to be new slalegislati gun reform has been controversial in the past. even though the country says it will move forward it is potentially still going to get some pushback. as to the investigation, the gunman acted alone. authorities want to know was he supported in advance. did anyone in his family or in the public or police miss red flags. >> thank you for being on the ground for all of your reporting. we will stay on that. the president renews attacks on the late senator john mccain. his daughter swipes back. what about some key republicans? where is their voice in this? beto o'rourke shows us the money. the presidential candidate brings in a record breaking $6.1 million in the first 24 hours of his campaign. wow. and a short visit can go a long way. incarcerated mothers get out from behind bars to spend time with their children. we will take you inside of riekers island. >> i chose the streets over my family. the day i got locked up, my daughter was actually with me. >> what did your daughter say? >> i love you, mom, and it's going to be okay. 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>> as you said, i served in the navy reserves. john mccain is the ideal role model for public service for me and so many others. i had the chance to express that to cindy mccain recently. i served in afghanistan with senator mccain's son. i understand the president's frustrations with the russian investigation and with the health care vote over a year ago. we need to move on with that and focus on the issues. the president wants to focus on other issues and get the investigation behind us so we can get back to work for the american people. >> does it concern you to read what the president wrote about john mccain this weekend? >> obviously, i disagree strongly with the president's sentiments about john mccain the person. my tweets and public expressions have been very different from that. i don't know any republican in the republican party today to who is focussed on a poor or negative reputation of john mccain in the past. i think many of us have praised him over the past several months after his death. >> except for the president. >> let's move on to the horrific attack in new zealand. 50 people dead. you have 30 in the hospital, children, nine in intensive care. the president condemned the attack. he has not explicitly condemned the white nationalism that clearly led to this attack. when asked if it's on the rise around the world, he said i don't really think so. it's a small group of people that have a very serious problem. you tweeted otherwise. you tweeted this, leadership matters when it comes to condemning hate and radical extremism. would you call the president's denial of the facts here leadership? >> i didn't take his statements as denial of fact. i mean, he did reject what happened in new zealand. obviously, he has rejected the hate that led to that. none of us can be emphatic enough in the rejection of hate and radical extremism that causes situations like these. >> i agree with you that no one can be explicit enough in rejecting that. just a point of fact here, he did dispute the facts. he was asked, does he think white nationalism is on the rise? and his words were, i really don't. but it is. you know the adl numbers. i guess i'm asking you as someone who says leadership is so important on this front, would you call his denial of the facts leadership? >> i don't blame donald trump anymore for what happened in new zealand than i blame chelsea clinton. it's not healthy for an obsession on that type of blame. >> you think facts matter. i know you think that numbers matter. and the statistics bear out the antidefamation league's statistics show that white nationalism and white nationalist-driven murders have risen. they doubled, more than doubled in 2017 alone. so the president saying i don't think this is the case, does that concern you? >> i took the president's comments at face value for what he said in rejecting the hate that led to the incident in new zealand. the fact of the matter is, we need to call out hate in all of its forms whether it's white nationalism, anti-semitism, islam phobia. that's what we have done in the congress. as i have said before in the tweet that you mentioned, when white nationalism reared its ugly head, they stripped steve king of his committee assignments. unfortunately, with representative omar and others who have made anti-semitic comments, that hasn't been appropriately dealt with in the congress today. that's where leadership matters where we haven't seen leadership to the scale that we should in the congress today. >> as you know it took years congress after congress after congress steve king kept saying the same things and was not stripped of committee assignments until now. >> until kevin mccarthy became the republican leader. while others didn't deal with it before, he did. >> back to the president and what he chose to write about this weekend, for example. fight hard for judge jeanine. he is calling on fox news to fight for an anchor there who is suspended for questioning if a member of congress is basically unamerican or not. where is her allegiance? is it to the constitution? in the hours, days following the attack that murdered 50 muslims the president is fighting for judge gene piero. is that appropriate? >> what happened in new zealand was a tragedy. we can't do enough. we can't be emphatic enough to call out the hate that led to it. i am not obsessed with the president's twitter feed. i don't read what the president tweets on a minute by minute basis. i'm hard at work in the house of representatives on the issues that matter. last week one of the stories that didn't get enough attention for example was the democrats sending smoke signals that they are not going to put a budget on the floor of the house and address significant budget issues for our country. meanwhile, as our debt rises, $22 trillion plus those are the issues that i'm focussed on. i'm not obsessed on what the president is tweeting minute by minute. >> they are official statements from the white house. on the issue of budget, let me ask you this, because you are chairman of the rsc budget. you wrote, i had the opportunity to thank the president for his fiscally conservative leadership. here is the thing. under this president, the federal deficit is up 77% in the first four months of this year alone. the congressional budget office projects the annual deficit will hit over a trillion dollars per year starting in 2022. is that really fiscally conservative leadership? >> the budget proposal that the president released last week is fiscally conservative leadership it would balance at a 12 to 15 year mark. it would make a number of reforms to drive down the national debt. >> in 15 years a deficit that the president said he could get rid of and that the tax cuts contributed to. >> and as the chairman we will put out a budget that will balance in less than ten years. the fact of the matter is the president put forward a budget proposal that balances, that drives down the national debt. now we need the democrats to do something about it. if nancy pelosi is signaling that she refuses to put a budget on the floor, then we will see the numbers continue to rise at a pace that will impact my daughter's future in a way that is unacceptable. >> congressman jim banks, i appreciate your time this morning. keep us posted on that because it is really important to all of our children. again, thank you for your service to this country. >> thank you. great to be with you. beto o'rourke's fundraising breaks records. what does that 6 million in the first 24 hours really mean? 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not only did he get 6.1 million in a day, he got it from someone in every single state. >> this is a record breaking haul. this is what we were talking about with beto o'rourke. he beat bernie sanders who only raised 5.9 million on day one. beto o'rourke said i'm the fundraising machine. fundraising is important because in a field so large as this you want to be able to stay alive as much as possible. >> even after he im 1himself apologized when he said about his wife in iowa saying she is taking care of the kids it struck me. a number of unanswered questions and big platform ideas. the american people don't care about it. i guess is it the energy? what is it? >> at least a subset don't care. most people aren't donating to campaigns. he has a subset of supporters who are very much behind. in a field as large as this, you might be able to win in iowa caucuses. i think that core group of people, the real question is will he be able to expand the support when the field gets narrow. >> i say when not if because of this. let's listen to joe biden over the weekend. >> i have the most progressive record for anybody who would run. >> this is typical joe biden. joe can't himself. these are fun gaffs we can laugh at. joe biden and beto o'rourke are both candidates who are feeling more towards centrist democrat. if you look at the congressional role call vote record they are both towards the middle. i think that's a big question. when biden gets in does biden overtake o'rourke or is it a case where they are even. let's say he is able to keep his name in the press. >> is he the most progressive? that struck me because progressive has a whole new definition i think in this campaign whether it comes to the green new deal or 77% marginal tax rates or to socialism. >> by the standard definition i would say no. if you look at his record, joe biden is much more towards the center of the democratic party. but of course i think joe biden will argue that i have a record. i was part of a team with barack obama and we have a record of change. i think that is what biden is getting at. >> he also has a record way back in the senate. he is going to have to explain some of it when it comes to criminal justice issues, et cete cetera. >> you name it and i think that will be a real question of how far back are we going to go? will the voters be able to forgive him for some of these folks. >> you dealt with it and was asked a lot about it. >> i think that joe biden right now the big thing for him is to run as an obama democrat. >> when is he announcing? >> i think april. he doesn't want to say i just raised $2 million. give himself until the end of june. >> thank you, my friend. a cnn exclusive report, mothers getting a chance to get out of rikers island prison spend time with their children. could this reduce incarceration? 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>> i lost count. >> you've lost count? >> yeah. >> many have been here before and may end up here again and again, left behind are their children. but on this monday, these inmates are not in their jump suits. they're not in handcuffs, they are mothers reunited with their children for a few potentially life changing hours. since april, new york city has been piloting a program that brings mothers from rikers island jail accepted for good behavior here to the children's museum of manhattan. this is amanda martinez's second visit here with her daughter. it's her 12th birthday today. >> it feels a little more normal because we are in a better setting. it is more fun and we have more activities. >> i don't feel as if i'm locked up right now. i love it. it feels so good. >> martinez's mother is taking care of ananda while she is serving time. >> you want to be with your family. christmas was hard. >> do you need some help? >> i'm waiting on my children. i was making them valentine's day cards. >> most of these women who are behind bars are muothers, most f them, 79%. >> just on rikers or all? >> on rikers. >> that's why the first lady of new york city saw the need and took a chance on this. >> we know that these separations can have a devastating impact on a child's development, prevents them from being able to love and laugh and learn. we did a baby shower at rikers and i saw that the children couldn't look into the parents' eyes. they were emotionally withdrawn. it just broke me. >> so we went to rikers to hear more from these mothers, amanda martinez. >> heroin is the reason you are here? >> well, yes. >> she has been in and out of jail more than 30 times. this time she pleaded guilty to drug charges and tells us she is going to rehab soon. she is a mother of four. among her youngest, 11 and 12-year-old girls. >> chasity is 11. she wants to be a nurse. trinity wants to be a teacher. they are really good kids. >> very good kids who rushed to see her at the museum but missed her by minutes she says because of transportation delays. >> does the opportunity to possibly go back to the museum next month to see your girls, does that motivate you here? >> makes me want to be involved in these programs. i want security to clear me so it does make me behave better. >> i would have never thought in a million years i would see my daughter without shackles, without a uniform, without these bars. >> this is amanda martinez's first time in jail and has been arrested more than once and served probation on drug charges. >> i chose the streets over my family. the day i got locked up my daughter was actually with me. >> what did your daughter say? >> i love you mom and it's going to be okay. >> this is you visiting with her at the museum. most recently she was charged with endangering welfare of a child for allegedly selling heroin while her daughter was by her side. tell me about your daughter. >> i'm going to cry. she is my one and only child. she is 12. she is the best kid i could ask for. she is humble, down to earth. she is so smart. >> the crafting family connections program is funded through private donations and taxpayer dollars. >> what about the critics who say why should my taxpayer money be going to this, be going to helping people that are charged with very serious crimes? >> first of all, they didn't do anything so wrong that their children should be punished, as well. what's happening is that we're punishing the women while they're in jail, punishing their children and their families. >> amanda martinez is charged with selling heroin, fentanyl and cocaine 13 times, 6 times alleged with her 11-year-old daughter there. why does she deserve this? >> i think it just doesn't get better if we don't encourage positive relationships and a positive understanding of parenting. >> despite programs like this, the city has announced plans to close rikers island in ten years. despite efforts to increase security. a 2018 independent report found deep underlying issues on rikers island. >> i have been on the job for about three years. we have never done anything like this ever. >> when the first lady's office came to you and said we want to do this what did you think? >> i said we have to be crazy sbrmpt . chief hazel jennings opened her mind and the gates at rikers. >> i think everybody deserves a second chance. we all make mistakes. some are worse than others, but at the end of the day it's really about the kids because they are our future and we have to invest in them. >> we can't take it out on the children for the decisions that the mothers made. >> officer angela gonzalez has been to everyone of these visits. >> gives the kids a sense of their parent is safe. their parent is not in a bad environment. i think it gives them comfort. >> it might surprise you like it did us, they have even opened the program to inmates charged with violent crimes. >> it's really about reducing -- and helping them. at some point they will go back out into the communities. we want them to be better human beings than what they may have started out as. >> what tells you it works? >> the reaction of the families and the kids, the tears, the joy, the hapness. one boy turned around and said this is the best day of my life. >> other cities have taken notice. chicago is considering launching a similar initiative. and kansas is already piloting one. >> it is hard to hold back tears, that's for sure. it's just a feeling that you can't even describe. >> in a 2016 study published by the journal of criminal justice, researchers analyzed 16 different studies and found a 26% decline in repeat criminal offenses by prisoners who were visited while they were in jail. >> if children are able to bond with their mothers and maintain that tie, they are less likely to be incarcerated. there is no better return on our investment than making these visits happen. >> i can be dead. my lifestyle that i used to live, i could be dead. i'm here talking to you about my daughter in a wonderful program that rikers island has to offer, out of all places, rikers. >> so the question is, is it going to work? we'll see. we'll keep tracking the data. they have expanded it through 2020. you probably wondering, so are fathers going to be able to do this? they told us they are considering it for fathers. this will happen this afternoon like it does one monday every month for the mothers in jail. and people from the jails in kansas are going to be visiting this program in new york city to learn from it today. we'll see if this grows on a national scale. ahead, federal investigators are looking at the faa issuing a subpoena over their approval of boeing 737 max jets after these two crashes just months apart. details ahead. >> tech: at safelite autoglass, we really pride ourselves on making it easy to get your windshield fixed. with safelite, you can see exactly when we'll be there. saving you time for what you love most. >> kids: whoa! >> kids vo: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace ♪ but how do i know if i'm i'm getting a good deal? i tell truecar my zip and which car i want and truecar shows the range of prices people in my area actually paid for the same car so i know if i'm getting a great price. this is how car buying was always meant to be. this is truecar. named 'park' in the u.s. ninety-six hundred roads it's america's most popular street name. but no matter what park you live on, one of 10,000 local allstate agents knows yours. now that you know the truth, are you in good hands? two major developments in the deadly crash of that ethi ethiopian airliner. according to the wall street journal the transportation department inspector general is looking into the approval of the boeing 737 max plane that has been involved in two deadly crashes in a matter of months after ethiopia's transport minister says the data reporter shows similarities between the crashes. they are subpoenas for information here. what is driving this? >> what seemed to be driving this is this concern according to the wall street journ al tha in this great fight for air bus boeing was trying to get the max line of planes out and that faa allowed boeing to do too much testing and certification that everything was going to be okay with the plane and said just tell us the system is working. tell us it is safe and that these short cuts somehow led to fatal problems in the plane which caused the crash of the lion air crash in indonesia last fall and this more recent one. that is the theory between all of this. that's what the wall street journing is saying. the department of transportation is saying let's look at the procedures. the faa is saying it followed normal procedures. >> they are indeed. this is what one of our analysts brought up to us the day after the crash that boeing essentially has a lot of the experts and that these plane companies are allowed to do self testing and self regulating. we appreciate your reporting. thanks. >> we are getting new information on the fbi raid of the former trump lawyer, michael cohen. we'll bring that to you next. 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