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rather than concrete. >> as for the alleged emergency it might draeraddress, the whit house is putting out bogus claims of terrorists slipping in from mexico. we begin with manu raju on capitol hill where the house and senate return to work tomorrow. some republicans, some in the senate differing with the prlt n president now on the shutdown. is this enough to get the two sides back to the negotiating table? >> we'll have to see at the moment, things at a complete standstill after the meeting with mike pence and leadership staff of the republicans and democrats on capitol hill. they met saturday and sunday. initially democrats said they want to reopen the government first before discussing border security measures but they said the president has a $5.7 billion request for his wall. what exactly does that entail? so they asked for a budget justification. and the white house sent a letter last night detailing that. $5.7 billion for a steel barrier at the southwest border. $800 million more for urgent humanitarian needs. $798 million for more detention beds. and $571 million for 2,000 additional law enforcement. now in addition to that, they sent a letter to white house and the letter to capitol hill explaining why they want the steel barrier. the president requests $5.7 billion for construction of the steel barrier for the southwest border. central to any strategy to achieve operation control along the southern border is physical infrastructure to provide re requisite impeddence and denial. it's obviously far short of the $5.7 billion and they want to reopen the government first before they even negotiate any of these issues. that's what the white house has rejected. at the moment, no end in sight. the question is if any of these other republicans break ranks forcing the leadership to rebel against the white house. at this point, no sign that's going to happen. jim and poppy? >> it's a new week. let's hope for something new. some sort of deal. manu, thank you. president trump says he may not need congress to get his wall started. take a listen to this. >> i may declare a national emergency dependent on what's going to happen over the next few days. but i think we're going to have some very serious talks come monday, tuesday, wednesday. >> all right. so the president says he can do this. he thinks alone. he still says he wants to get a deal done with congress. let's talk about the law. our contributor, a professor at the university of texas school of law and constitutional law expert is with us. good morning. so the minute i heard this from the president, i thought, okay, national emergencies act 1976. can he do this and what sort of legal challenge would he face if he tries to? >> so the short answer is yes he can do it in part. the national emergency allows the president to declare a state of national emergency and poppy and jim, there are a series of standby statutory authorities that allow the president once he declares a national emergency to use funds that were previously appropriated for military construction to engage in other projects congress hasn't specifically appropriated. but here's the catch. those authorities certainly would allow the government to build some kind of barrier on government property. you still have to get all the private property and a majority of the property along the u.s./mexico border is, in fact, private property. it's not clear that would get him even remotely close to his goal. >> that's an interesting point. we did some research that under the national emergency act, presidents have used this pretty frequently. george w. bush declared 13 national emergencies, barack obama declared 12, bill clinton 17, nearly all of which are still active today. one of them, george w. bush after 9/11. a major terrorist attack on u.s. soil. but others focused on the opioid crisis. that would seem to give the president, at least on the first step, of declaring the national emergency some legal leeway here. >> so i think that's right, jim. what we're learning is that the national emergencies act is far too open-ended a grant of authority to any president of any party. but let's be clear. the act just means that various other authorities that are only available in a declared national emergency come on to the table. of course, the irony sheer if these authorities have been available to president trump all along, then there was no need for the shutdown in the first place. and it suggests that to the president this is really much more about the controversy than it is about the result. >> so, steve, listen to democratic congressman representative adam schiff, his take on history and how history might factor in here. >> if harry truman couldn't nationalize the steel industry during wartime, this president doesn't have the power to declare an emergency and build a multibillion-dollar wall on the border. so that's a nonstarter. >> who has history on their side here? the president or adam schiff? >> i think everyone has a little bit of history on his side. what congressman schiff is talking about is a supreme court case from 1952. the difference between what's going on today and what was going on there is that today the president has at least some statutory authorities he can rely upon. the ones we were talking about with regard to military construction. part of why the supreme court ruled against president truman's seizure of the steel mills during the korean war was because he had no authority in congress. the question is whether the existing statutes would get the president far enough to his goal. >> i think we lost the connection there. >> we lost you. but we got the point there. there's some history on both sides. >> there you go. the facts now, though. take note this morning of a deeply misleading claim on border security that the administration resurrected this weekend. the claim repeated by both sarah sanders and the president himself in just the last week is that the u.s. has stopped some 4,000 terrorists. 3,755 more precisely, from entering the country. a claim they shared as justification for a wall on the southern border. now we fact checked this claim a month ago. as we said then, that data concerns individuals attempting to travel to the u.s. by air, sea or land and includes efforts to obtain visas from embassies and consulates around the world. that's certainly important work but it's not confined to or even principally related to the southern border. in july 2017, the state department said that no known terror groups were operating in texa mexico but the state department was clear saying there was, quote, no credible information that any member of a terrorist group has traveled through mexico to gain access to the united states. moreover, dhs' own figures note that of 2,554 individuals on the terrorist watch list encountered traveling to the u.s. in 2017, the vast majority, 2,170, attempted to enter by air. just 335 tried to enter by land. now in response to our fact check a month ago, dhs claimed at the time we had not contacted them but we did. and they gave us those numbers which are also in their press release. dhs' press secretary then repeated that same 3,755 figure ignoring where those suspected terrorists were actually stopped. this claim does not stand up to the facts. and repeating it does not make it any more true. >> amen to that. so let's talk about only the facts. with us now, congressional reporter for "the washington post" and senior columnist for the daily beast, matt lewis. thank you for being here. matt, let's jump to that. facts are so important. we will always fact check them here as jim just did. and listen to the president's own chief of staff over the weekend just yesterday to jake tapper about the importance of facts. mick mulvaney. here he is. >> there are not your facts and my facts. there are just facts. if you can't even have a basic understanding of the facts, it's going to be very difficult to come to an agreement. >> so then how damaging is what the white house is doing here to their own argument? >> well, so i agree. i think facts matter. and you can make a pretty compelling argument that some day terrorists could try to cross that border. there are plenty of other reasons nations should have control of their border. but i think, clearly, they are misrepresenting, trying to scare people into supporting what they are doing right now in terms of trying to get this wall built and using the shutdown as leverage. i think it fell apart. interestingly, i guess it's chris wallace on fox news who really, you know, put sarah sanders in a tough spot having her try to defend this misinformation. the administration is sloppy. they need to get their facts straight. they have an argument but want to get the facts right. >> karen, it was interesting to hear from christopher rudd who head is a strong friend of the president, speaks to him. he told "the new york times" the following. he said i don't think the president's base moves even one inch from him, even if he doesn't get a wall. they know where his heart is, where his mind is. is that a message should should we read that as a message from ruddy and from others to say to the president, listen, you can back off this and it won't be a fatal mistake? >> i think that trump's friends and allies and surrogates do a lot of messaging to him through the media. this seems like a sign to him that given where this all started from where we expected the president to sign an extension of the budget that would have not put us into a shutdown and then the pushback from the talk radio hosts and conservative radio made him rethink that plan. this is definitely a signal of, you don't have to listen to the people that have the microphones for those radio programs because the base itself will actually listen to you. the base is committed to trump and, thus, trump can turn the heads of the base and explain things to the base in any way that he wants to where they will willingly go along with what he says is his reasoning for doing certain things. you started to see some shifting from the president to move away from this singular focus of the word wall as you know, mulvaney and others in his team try to convince him to talk more about border security. that's one sign of that starting to happen. but messages like this are intended to give the president room and space to be able to feel like he can make a deal. and he does have to be able to make a deal. i don't think the democrats or republicans in congress are going to be able to agree to anything with any of his surrogates because the president has changed his mind so many times. so the president has to be the one to stand up and say this is what we're going to do in order to get the country back up and running. it's going to have to be something different than the changing -- the change position he took that led us to this shutdown in order to please his base. >> those cracks in the republicans are growing, right? we talked about the five republicans in the house who voted with democrats to reopen the government at the end of last week and on friday you had susan collins of maine and cory gardner of colorado saying end the shutdown and we'll deal with the wall later. to that list, add thom tillis. he blames the far left and the far right who think we should round up all the undocumented immigrants and send them home. how much pressure can the president sustain from this growing list of republicans? >> i think that's where the action is, right? i think donald trump has no incentive to change because he cares about his base, and the base want a wall. and democrats have no incentive to change because they care about their base. the base sees the wall as a symbol of more than just a wall now. of racism and bigotry. and, frankly, democrats believe that they have public opinion on their side. so trump has no incentive to change. democrats have no incentive to change. the one vulnerable group are republicans -- elected republicans who are not donald trump. and so if they start to peel away, that may be the only thing that would bring people to the table. >> to be care, there are risks for democrats here as well. this wave election, they were elected to change things in washington. to get things done. they have an ambitious agenda that extends far beyond immigration here. do they not have the risk of being portrayed as obstructionists here, rather than doers? >> sure. i mean, look. the president is already spinning hard to make this the democrats' shutdown. as many times as he has said he owns the statements he has made saying he'd own the shutdown, he's still trying to make this the democrats' fault. you don't even have to listen to the blame game anymore. if this goes on long enough, there's just going to be a general frustration with why can't the government be up and running and doing things, especially as the paychecks start not coming, as people's -- as this starts to radiate beyond just the 800,000 furloughed workers to actual programs that start to run aground. you'll have a general frustration, discontent is a polite way of saying that, with washington. because the country is already inclined to think that washington is not functional anyway. and then it's anybody's guess who will take the blame for it. if the president keeps going out there saying he'll own the shutdown, maybe he will. if he doesn't, it's democrats that are supposed to be bringing change. democrats have always tried to campaign on looking out for the little guy who is going to be hit hard eventually when things like food stamps stop working. >> the president says he can relate. >> yeah, but how -- who do people relate to, really? and sometimes poeople relate to democrats or republicans, sometimes just to washington, d.c., and then everybody loses, and that's a risk for everyone on all sides. >> dysfunction in washington, d.c. karen, matt lewis, thank you. now there are conditions. john bolton contradicts the president on the syria troop withdrawal. plus, the u.s. and china restart trade talks as tensions build. can they reach any sort of compromise? also, we're going to take you to the heartland. farmers feeling the pain from the brutal trade war. taking another hit with this government shutdown. we'll take you to illinois and show you exactly what we mean. discover. i like your card, but i'm absolutely not paying an annual fee. discover has no annual fees. really? yeah. we just don't believe in them. oh nice. you would not believe how long i've been rehearsing that. no annual fee on any card. only from discover. and i don't add trup the years.s. but what i do count on... is boost® delicious boost® high protein nutritional drink has 20 grams of protein, along with 26 essential vitamins and minerals. boost® high protein. be up for life. >>got it. ran out of ink and i have a big meeting today >>and 2 boxes of twizzlers... yeah, uh...for the team... >>the team? 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the u.s. is in, then it's out, now it's back in. >> yeah, it -- jim, i put it in the context of a delay, then a reversal and then a reversal of a reversal. and this is strategic improvisation with uncoordinated messaging with not only our allies but you also have to remember the individual military personnel on the ground maybe don't know what's going on either. they are hearing the same kind of things with the tweets and the commentary by -- first with lindsey graham, then by rand paul, then by prime minister netanyahu and president erdogan. there's a lot of people who are attempting to influence a strategy of the united states in a certain part of the world. and the president doesn't seem to be -- or at least it appears he doesn't seem to be listening to his national security advisers. >> not to mention, as jim and i were talking about, this is what mattis quit over. he lost his secretary of defense over this and, remember, our reporting is that the red line in it for mattis was the kurds. and leaving the kurds without u.s. support on the front line. and now bolton has said he has assurances from erdogan, from turkey's government that they'll not -- that the will not attack the kurds. and that would have to be met before the u.s. were to totally pull out. can the u.s. -- should the u.s. believe turkey, yes, our nato ally, but they've viewed the kurds as terrorists at points. >> i'd be hesitant in believing that statement. we've had those kinds of assurances before from not only the turks but the russians and iranians. so this all contributes to the confounding complexities of this part of the world but also -- >> oops. not a good morning for technology. twice. >> someone was listening. but thanks to general hertling. it gets down the process here. i heard this from a senior administration official in the wake of this. there is no national security process. the president makes a decision by tweet and folks have to move. what happens in the midst of a real crisis? >> and what do you snbelieve? the advisers or the president? >> also, this is a real key issue in terms of foreign policy and the economy. u.s. negotiators are in china as part of this big trade delegation trying to hash out a trade deal before the 90-day deadline ends. or will these new tariffs kick in at the end of february? >> wall street is watching these talks. we're moments from the opening bell. a slight uptick based on futures. investors wait to see how these negotiations pan out. 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>> well, look at "the wall street journal" today. there's a really interesting report about how china's economy is doing. and they are doing miserably. they've been hit really hard by these tariffs. so when you ask the question, does the united states have leverage over china? certainly, we do. their economy can't grow unless they have access to u.s. -- >> i don't minimize that leverage, but based on the numbers, is clearly hurting as well. the point is, can you say both sides are losing? >> it's a great point. neither side can win a trade war. the point is we're in an abusive relationship with china. i think all americans have come to understand that. you've seen the espionage that china has engaged in. the fact that they're hacking into our computer systems now, that, you know, they are stealing $300 billion a year of our technologies without paying for it. so many abuses here that have to be fixed. the main point i would make is if we can get this deal done with china, before that, what is it, 40 days now until that deadline is surpassed. if that happens, it will be extremely bullish for the u.s. economy. by the way, it would help china a lot as well. this is a high stakes game of poker. >> it say high stakes game the u.s. does have to win. the question becomes at what cost? look at what happened to apple stock. it got pummeled last week and then the president's own chairman of the council on economic advisers kevin hasset told me apple is just the beginning. >> it's not going to be just apple. there are a heck of a lot of u.s. companies that have sales in china that are going to be watching their earnings be downgraded next year until we get a deal with china. >> so he's basically confirming, you know, we're hanging in the balance here. are the big multinationals and the big u.s. corporations. there's a danger for them. >> they sure are. no question about it. you're exactly right about that. the two largest economies. there's a lot of commerce between the two nations. a lot of especially major technology companies in the united states that are dependent on sales to china. think about if this gets resolved in a positive way, think about how much more -- there's a billion chinese. think about how much we can sell to china whether it's blue jeans or soybeans or whether it's our patr petroleum. i talk to american businessmen and women all the time who say today, under the current conditions, it's so hard to do business in china because they have such a closed market to the united states. i agree with your central point that this is hurting both countries, but we can't go forward with the status quo where we're selling -- we're opening up our markets to them and they're selling $500 billion to us but they're only buying $150 billion of our products. >> those are fair points. the question is, is the remedy solving the problem and the evidence isn't there yet, right? china is digging its heels in because it's feeling -- you see it from their leaders. they have their own political pressure internally. they have a leader who does not like to bow down to the american president. the question is, beating him over the head with a baseball bat, does that get you or the administration what the u.s. wants? >> i'm somewhat optimistic. i'm going to be modestly optimistic that they get a deal done before that 40-day deadline. and the reason is, look, trump has already hit china with the 10% tariffs and they've already got warehouses and docks and their factories are full of merchandise they can't sell. their economy has slowed down dramatically with the 10% tariff. this is a bit of a game of chicken. think of what happens if they get hit with a 25% tariff. it will grind their economy to a halt. it's a bit of mutually assured destruction because both countries -- >> that's horrible! playing a game of chicken, mutually agreed upon destruction? that is not how the world's two biggest economies should be operating. >> i guess i'd ask the question, poppy, to economists out there and people like yourself, what is the alternative? do we move forward with the status quo where -- >> i just don't -- i don't think it's an either/or option. i don't think you have to kick in 25% tariffs march 1st if this doesn't get done to the president's satisfaction. but look, this is not my job, and you are a smart guy who advises the president on economics. you have his ear on this. i have to get you on the national debt. it's $2 trillion higher today as we sit here than when the president took office. he promised -- remember "the washington post" interview. he promised -- >> and paul ryan. >> the president is still the president. he promised in "the washington post" interview in 2016 he'd eliminate the national debt if he were to have eight years in office. is there any world in which that is possible, and how concerned are you that we're sitting at a $22 trillion national debt now? >> it's a gigantic number and this didn't happen overnight. it happened over the last 50 years where the debt gets bigger and bigger. it doubled about $22 trillion under obama. and, look -- >> okay, it doubled under obama. >> after the biggest crash since 1929. >> we spend money to recover an che. you don't spend money like this when you have one of the strongest economies we've seen. it's not apples to apples. >> yeah, it is. obama doubled the national debt to try to revive the economy. we had the worst recovery from recession since the depression. our view always, larry kudlow and i always told donald trump, grow the economy. we've got 3% growth last year which is the first year we got 3% growth in something like 15 years. we never had that under obama. you have more people off of welfare. more people working. that blockbuster jobs report. showed almost 500,000 more people, you know, starting to enter the jobs market. but i'm not -- look. we have an overspending problem. no question about it. but on the tax cut, i want to get this point across. >> we have to deal with the tax cut next time. >> more tax revenues than any year in american history. >> but not from corporations. >> even you can't deny -- >> and the fed's growth projection is lower now. 2.3% this year, steve, not 3%. >> the fed is creating that with their dumb rate hikes. supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg will not take her seat today when the supreme court convenes its first public session of 2019. >> it's a big deal. she won't be there for the oral arguments. she can still vote after reading them, but this is -- she's recovering from surgery to remove those two cancerous nodes or lesions from her lungs. she has never before, the 85-year-old justice battling cancer, has never missed a day on the bench for oral arguments. she will today. this is a first for her. >> well, this is a first. remember, she did survive two other bouts of cancer and during those times she never missed a day of oral argument. she may have missed over her career for recusals, et cetera, but this is a setback. the supreme court back from its winter recess. it's going to hear arguments. she won't be on the bench. she'll still be able to vote, however. she'll read the transcripts like the rest of us. and keep in mind this was really discovered at a very early stage. back in november, she tripped and fell in her chambers behind us. she went to the hospital. diagnosed with fractured ribs and as they looked at the fractured ribs, they saw these two cancerous nodules. at the time, the court spokesman released a statement saying there was no evidence of any remaining disease. like i said, she survived twice before. she said last summer she hopes to stay on the court until she's 90. that's five years from now. she's hired clerks, not only for this term but for the next term. but this is a setback, poppy and jim, for her as she continues to recuperate. >> you might say that's the most watched seat on the supreme court these days. ariane, thanks. the man arrested in the drive driv driv drive-by murder of a 7-year-old girl will be arraigned by a judge. prosecutors have identified a second suspect, a man who is already in jail. or being the surprise guest. at jackson hewitt we help lots of people like you. you could get up to $3500 with a no fee refund advance. so why wait? 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>> reporter: eric black jr. in court this morning. he was the driver of the vehicle that another man sat in the passenger seat of and opened fire on the car that jazmine barnes and her family were in last sunday morning. this is believed to be a case of mistaken identity. these two men believed someone else to be on that car -- in that car when they started firing. now eric black is the one in court today, as we mentioned, charged with capital murder. he is the only one arrested and charged in connection with this murder. but we're learning that a second man, larry woodruff, as identified by the "houston chronicle" and others is also in custody. this man was pulled over in a traffic stop the day before yesterday. brought in on a possession of marijuana and other controlled substances. that is the charge he is being held on, but during his probable cause hearing yesterday, the state made the case for his bond to be higher than the typical $5,000 it would be for that charge saying that he is a suspect in a homicide and murder investigation. poppy and jim? >> this poor family here, they've lost their 7-year-old daughter. and there's been this back and forth, this discrepancy even in the description of the shooter. how is the family reacting to these arrests now? >> reporter: the family saying they are very grateful that these arrests have been made after the harris county sheriff vowed they wouldn't rest until justice was brought for jazmine. also this element of surprise. jazmine barnes' mother and her sisters very descriptive in who they believe this gunman to be. we've seen that sketch. a white male driving a red pickup truck but this came in by way of a tip. we got here because investigators learned that eric black jr. and larry were involved in this. and then eric black confessed. so here you have a scenario where, imagine the chaos of that moment. these children and their mother in a car as they are attacked. that red pickup truck could have been the last thing they saw but there were two men in another car who were allegedly responsible. poppy and jim? 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uh huh! let it go! whoo! get a dollar-for-dollar match at the end of your first year. only from discover. welcome back. to the world's largest pilots union is calling on president trump to end the shutdown. they say it is affecting the safety of airline travel in the u.s. >> that comes as hundreds of tsa screeners call out sick at several major airports. one federal official calls it the blue flu, because of the blue tsa uniforms. join us from government regulation correspondent rene marsh. you were the first to break this story on friday. i'm kurs -- curious about the folks calling in sick and does the tsa have the ability to plug in the holes so everybody that needs to be screened could get screened. >> reporter: we spoke with two senior tsa officials and two tsa union reps they tell us they are talking about when you look at major airports, at least four major airports, hundreds of tsa officers have called out sick since this government shutdown began. and they're concerned, they're telling me, is that this just means that air travel could be less secure because, they say, obviously they're doing less with more as these call-ins or call-outs begin to stack up and that is the concern, that they will continue to stack up as the shutdown drags on. as we know, there is no indication of any end in sight. now we did speak to tsa and they told us in a statement that these call-ins started happening around the holiday and that they have increased but what tsa is saying at this point is that the call -- the sick calls aren't that significant to the point where it is impacting safety, security or wait times at airports. but with all of the tsa officers i'm speaking to, they are saying just wait. this week they say will be critical because as you know friday -- friday will be the first day they miss their paychecks and many officers are saying they are calling out for practical reasons and they need cash so they are trying to get to the cash-paying jobs outside of the government while the government shutdown. take a look at this tsa officer's personal situation. >> i live about half an hour from work and it will come to a point where you say do i put gas in my car or feed my family? you feel hopeless. and you feel helpless. i'm not in washington. i don't have the influence that these people of power have. and we rely on them. we elect them to peas positions to -- elect them to these positions to get a job done. >> reporter: and it is not just the officers but the largest pilots union calling for the shutdown to end because of concerns over security. let's see as lawmakers on capitol hill and the president will listen to these folks. back to you. >> the state of fact, we know the terror groups are targeting u.s. commercial aviation. it is a concern. thank you very much. it is not just federal workers impacted by the shutdown. >> right. farmers who already have been taking a hit because of the trade war with china are taking another hit because of the government shutdown. vanessa joins us live from polo, illinois. this is really, vanessa, a one-two punch for these farmers. >> reporter: definitely. jim and poppy, this shutdown is not coming at a good time. after a tough 2018 for farmers and ranchers, the shutdown is very much unwanted at this point. so let's talk about what that trade war means for the farmers here. we're on brian dunkins farm here in northwest illinois and the biggest buyer of china and the biggest buyer of pork is mexico and they are not buying that much any more. and when you add the shutdown, brian relies on subsidies to make up the revenue difference he's not getting from mexico and china so he's waiting to file his application because he was waiting for the corn harvest to finish and his application is sitting on the desk in his office so he's not able to get that money and not able to get that check. but let's put it into perspective of where we are. we're in a conservative area and trump supporters and voters. so i asked brian whether or not the shutdown and these tariffs are playing at all into how he might be voting and how others might be voting, even come 2020. take a listen to what he had to say. >> i do think the president is in danger of losing a significant part of his base if the economic woes continue out here. if there is no resolve to these trade disputes. my fear is that we'll be watching in 2020 is are we bleeding for territory we already had? we're shedding significant economic blood out here. >> reporter: we spoke to a couple of other farmers in the area at a local diner and we asked them whether or not they are still supporting the president amongst all of this chaos with the shutdown and the trade war and they said that they are. but when i asked them about 2020, jim and poppy, they said they would have to wait and see. i think they're going to be looking at their bank accounts and looking at how their businesses are doing, jim and poppy. but as we know, 2020 is a couple of years ago so they'll have a little bit of time to think about it before they go ahead and cast their ballot. >> it is quite a statement there. are we losing territory? we are. >> that is fascinating. great reporting, thank you. so it can be a move by president trump to declare a national emergency and use military funds to pay for the wall but if he does it, does he have the law on his side? but what i do count on... is boost® delicious boost® high protein nutritional drink has 20 grams of protein, along with 26 essential vitamins and minerals. boost® high protein. be up for life. make yourself comfy. it's the biggest streaming collection of british telly ever. enjoy loved classics from the bbc and itv and discover exclusive new shows fresh from the uk. very good. brighten your new year with a britbox annual plan and get two months free. are you kidding? 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>> reporter: according to democrats, there was no substantive progress over the weekend. although, as you said, the president did indicate he thought that the talks, particularly between the vice president and

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