Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With Poppy Harlow 20150628

Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With Poppy Harlow 20150628



alice hyde medical center in malone new york. i want to go to deborah who's been working her law enforcement forces. she's learned some kprierd anywhere things just in the past few hoemtmoments. >> we know he was captured wearing camouflage gear. he was just a couple miles from the canadian border. had he been able to cross that canadian border law enforcement's ability to follow him would have been much more difficult. i'm also learning that apparently he was following a trail. it's what's called a fire break that is put between trees. that was the fastest, the easiest trial for him to be able to follow. he was wearing camouflage beer. we're getting a photograph approved right now. there's a photo of him sitting on the ground. we're told it was a new york state trooper who is the one that shot him. you have to keep in mind that the people in that area searching for him, they were the best of the best all tactical units, people with extreme experience in tracking these individuals, tracking individuals like this. so we are now told though that he has been taken to the hospital. he was shot twice. again, he was clearly wearing clothing that he much stolen from a hunting cab. >> do we know what condition or -- rather, we know what the condition is we know he's live. we're trying to clear this picture. let me ask you, what do you know about what happened? was there a fire fight? did he have a weapon? did he surrender freerly? >> it's unclear. based on the photograph, it looks like he has something on his hip, perhaps some sort of a knife. we understand that he was shot, it appears from law enforcement sources that he was shot in the back. that could mean anything. it could mean that he turned around. it could mean that he was startled that he heard them coming that he was trying to run. another thing that's going to be interesting so teesee, that will be specifically whether he was with richard matt. he did cover a decent amount of ground from where matt was shot in malone new york to where he was shot in constable new york. >> about 20 miles or so. >> and the weather is terrible. cell service in that area is horrible. i was hearing from law enforcement that the search was very, very difficult because of of the weather that has plagued that area for so long. canadian authorities have been briefed on the possibility that he could have crossing into canada so they were ready. there are sensors all along the border. all of that was being monitored. the authorities knew that it was a possibility he could be getting there. >> do we know if anyone else was injured? >> well, it's interesting because a number of ambulances did go to the hospital. i did ask sources about that. it's standard operating procedure to take individuals, law enforcement who have been involved in the shooting to a hospital give them a little bit of coverage. so they would probably be checked out as well. it does not appear that any law enforcement personnel was shot in any way. you can see one of the ambulances there, not clear whether he's in that ambulance or whether -- i think there was a second ambulance as well. he's being treated. and the injuries -- they've got to keep him alive. i'll tell you, though if he's kept alive and he talks, the chances of him providing information against both joyce mitchell and gene palmer is significant. if he dies then it is a very different case against these two individuals in terms of their role and what they were able to do. we're working on getting that picture cleared for the viewers now. >> we are going to be talking to our legal experts about that. just to reset for you here. deborah has been working for three weeks breaking news left and right on this story. david sweat was in prison for life escaped 23 days ago, has now been shot twice and he is in police custody being treated as a local hospital. there will be a law enforcement press exxon frens at 6:45 eastern time tonight. we will bring you information from that. i do want to get to jean in the field there. she's at the hospital i believe also polo sandoval with us as well. you have been getting reaction from people in this community frankly, a communicate that has been absolutely traumatized. people who have been scared to go to sleep at night. how do they feel now? >> reporter: they are elated. and we're right here live. we're right outside the emergency room of the alice hyde medical center. david sweat is right inside the doors of the emergency room hyped me. we were able to confirm on record with the hospital that no law enforcement officers at all were injured. but we were on our way to where we believed this was happening. and all of a sudden there was a caravan going at a high rate of speed with numerous law enforcement officers and two ambulances. and we now know that was one that was taken there protectively. but one of them was in fact we belief carrying david sweat because he now is in that hospital. i've been listening to law enforcement talking month themselves. i heard them -- as you can see, look right behind me you can see right here as law enforcement continues to come up. because they continue to come to this hospital one by one, they're being guide from the law enforcement in the street. i did hear one officer tell another they are expecting medical equipment to be delivered to this medical center. this is an acute care facility. 73 beds. it is not a trauma center but it is an acute care center. as you can see -- let's pan over here. look at the smiles on these people's faces. they feel safe again. how are you doing? >> pretty good. i'm glad they're caught. if one person got hurt even would know them. it would be hard for us to get back to normal living. >> reporter: that's the community standing out here in the rain poppy, because they just want to applaud law enforcement. >> jean, stay with us. i do want to talk to our viewers about the picture you're seeing on the side of the screen. let's take it full. this is the first picture we have seen of david sweat since he escaped from prison 23 days ago. >> yeah. and we received this photograph a little while ago. but you can see he is wearing camouflage gear. you can see that there is blood. you can see he's being treated by individuals there at the scene. obviously they're wearing protective gloves. it's very interesting. you can just make out on his hip what appears to be sort of a case. whether that suggests he was carrying some sort of a knife, we don't know that yet. the question has been it's cold, it's rainy, at night the temperatures fall how were these guys able to hide out. there was even talk about what they might be wearing. we knew that richard matt had a rifle. we did not know whether david sweat was armed. it appears one of the ways he was able to survive for as many week z as he did is because he was dressed for the elements. you can see because of the camouflage he could have easily remained hidden even while he was on the run. we are being told that he was heading north and that he was trying to get away as quick as possible because not clear whether he was with richard matt when all of this happened, but he covered a lot of ground between the two -- between the two shootings essentially. >> do we know if he's talking? >> right now usually what happens in a case like this is they are going to treat his wounds as quickly as they possibly can. they need to make sure they keep him alive. usually you'll get the best teams of emergency room doctors to make sure that happens. if he dies all the information he has also dies with him. and they do not want that to happen. they will probably question him to the extent doctors allow, but they're going to have to get him into surgery. they're going to have to make sure that he is sedated. what could potentially happen is once he is out of the danger zone then they will effectively begin to question him within the confines of the hospital room. >> deborah, stay with me. i do want to go to tom fuentes, former police officer himself and talk about this. as i do i think everyone's thanks to law enforcement, these 1,200 officers who have spent weeks on end hunting down this man and richard matt putting their own lives at risk, frankly, to go after these two individuals. now, they have taken david sweat alive. tom, just your reaction to him and frankly, what he is wearing. clearly not prison gash. >> it's pretty clear that the number of cabins that they probably broke into they found enough clothing boots underwear, possibly food and water to sustain them somewhat. and then they would obtain the bug bites and other effects of being outside when they moved from one location to another. so -- but looking at the picture here of his capture, he appears in relatively good shape considering if he was shot twice, it doesn't look like life-threatening wounds just from this photo. i'd like to say something about the likelihood of him talking. one of the things about guys like this are typically very narcissistic. they will want to brag now smart he was, how great he was, how manipulative he was, how he convinced joyce, how he convinced others at the prison to help them. i think if the right team interrogates him, and i would have great confidence if it was an fbi team because they would know exactly how to push his buttons and get him to brag about what they did. >> when you look at a situation like this and how law enforcement encountered him two miles from the canadian border. are you surprised ultimately in a search that has expanded as far as mexico at times that he was indeed captured so close to where he fled from? >> i am surprised. they could have gotten there the first time. they had a eight-hour head start from that prison. and they were only 22 miles from the border when they were in jail. if they'd have gone north or northwest, they could have been in canada before morning before anybody was even looking for them. they could have hitchhiked and done just about anything to get there without arousing anybody's suspicion. especially because they were in civilian clothes. you see these guys and the clothing they were able to make in prison. and then you saw joyce mitchell in custody she looked like the poster child for al ka traz with the white and black check jump suit. the fact that they have camouflage from the beginning and could have walked north, yeah they should have been in canada three weeks ago. >> tom, stay with me. polo sandoval is live in new york. very close to where he was shot and captured. polo do we have any sense if there was any incentive whatsoever for him to talk? this is a guy that if he survives given the extent of his injuries does he have any incentive to talk to tell authorities how on earth he and matt managed this? >> reporter: it's a very good question, poppy. keep in mind there were only two people that would be able to answer exactly where these two inmates have been the last three weeks. one of them is dead richard matt. and now you have david sweat, able to provide very curable information. that's given the information that we have right now, these two inmates were out in this wilderness really through the last three weeks. we are right along route 30. it's about a 20-mile stretch that links malone new york with the trout river crossing into canada. officials here are blocking traffic here. we've seen several individuals driving through the rain trying to head into canada. many of them being turned around. i've spoken to them. asking them if it's an inconvenience. they said not at all if this means finally bringing this to a close. we were here on a rainy weekend when this all-out man hunt was launch launched. three weeks later, everything now has come to an end again on a very rainy weekend. >> i do want to get our viewers some more information. this just into us here at cnn. coming to us from an sand ya field who is there on the ground. what we have learned from alex's sources is that a new york state police sergeant on roving patrol saw david sweat. after sweat ran, the sergeant shot him. that is according to law enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation. it does not appear according to this official that sweat was armed. tom, to you, learning it does not appear according to a law enforcement source that sweat was armed. does that surprise you? >> yes, that surprises me. but it doesn't alter the fact that the police officer did the right thing. we know they took a couple shotguns and two or three hunting knives from the cabin last saturday. you would have to presume that matt was not in possession of all of those items when he was shot. you would, you know have to assume that he had the other weapons or at least one of the other ones. again, even with his bare hands, if he went into a house and took a family hostage, he could kill them very easily with whatever tools or knives they had on hand. there is no way once they had him spotted that they were going to take a chance that he got into the cover on the forest and disappeared once again and continued the threat to the local population. especially, again, we have night fall approaching. the fact that they were able to stop him, under any circumstances -- he had the chance to surrender. if he didn't surrender and took off running, then he made his own fate. >> i want to read to the viewers, we just got this press release from the new york state police. here's what they're saying. it says that at approximately 3:20 this afternoon, a member of the new york state police spotted a quote suspicious man walking down a road in the down of constable. the state police member shot and injured clinton correctional facility escapee david sweat. sweat was taken into police custody alive. he's being treated at a local hospital. the new york state police now telling us his condition is unknown at this time. again, his condition unknown at this time. deborah, let's talk about this. 3:20 this afternoon. a member of new york state police spots a suspicious man walking down the road in the middle of the afternoon. >> that in and of itself would be suspicious. they clearly knew exactly what they were looking for. the fact that they knew exactly what they were looking at really significant. and their ability to respond. the new york state police, they have their elite teams up there. u.s. marshals fbi customs and border patrol everybody is up there looking for these people. they knew they had a small window of time in which to find them, especially given the information that it appeared they were heading north-northwest direction towards the canadian border. canadian officials and new york officials have been in constant communication throughout this entire process. had he been able to get over that border he may have very well been spotted. there are situations when u.s. can go inside especially if you're in hot pursuit of somebody. but the fact that they were able to identify him, especially since he wasn't wearing the green prison garb. >> right. >> he could have been just any ordinary huntder. clearly the way he reacted, the way he responded. but i think it is significant. and one of the key things about this investigation is was he with richard matt who was had that shotgun when he was confronted and shot to death three times in the head richard matt was shot and killed. interesting that here the shots -- you know usually you're aiming for center mass. usually you're aiming to kill. the fact that they were able to shoot in order to stop him, but get him alive, that also incredible tactical training right there to go on. your intipgt in law enforcement would be shoot him, bring him down. >> sure. >> but again we've seen this in other situations like the boston marathon case they needed to get him alive. they need him to be alive. it's not just that these two men escaped. now the entire correctional facility is going to be under investigation as to what happened. >> right. >> why it happened and the one things that was really interesting to me that i learned really just recently and that is that all these prisoners know about these catwalks. it's not a secret. they go behind because that's where all the breakers are. if they want to juice their fuse which means get more electricity in order to lose hot plates that's how they do. and sometimes when correction officers have had a bad day with one of these guys, they'll turn the breaker off so they don't get any light to the cell. so they knew about this. >> just before this, they interviewed new york governor andrew cuomo. we're going to play that for you a little bit later. that was obviously before this capture. he talked about the investigation going into this prison and getting to the bottom of how this could happen to make sure that it never never happens again. stay with me. jean i want to go to you. jean is on the ground there right at the hospital. we are learning that sweat is at the same hospital jean where joyce mitchell went the night that she -- of the escape the night that she did not pick them up in the vehicle with the whole plan to drive seven hours away the fact that she had chest pains, went to that hospital for treatment, didn't show up to pick up these two escaped convicts jean. i'm interested to know what the people in this community have been telling you as they learn this news. >> reporter: well, the minute we got here and we got here right after the caravan got here. the community just started coming out and it is raining hard and they continue to stay here because they are supporting law enforcement and they want to know exactly what's going to happen next. they are really overjoyced in this. we're at the alice hyde medical center. it was three weeks ago this weekend that that breakout occurred. we do know that joyce mitchell checked herself into a hospital for an anxiety attack. we have been able to confirm that this is where she went. so where david sweat is right now inside, this is the same facility that joyce mitchell came to when she had her anxiety attack because as she admitted to law enforcement, she was supposed to be the getaway driver and then decided that she wasn't going to participate in all of that. but this community has just had a lot of things recently including so much activity at that -- at this particular hospital. but i do want to tell you, and i think we can show right here. this is just an ambulance that's leaving the facility. but they can't park into the emergency area now because that is where david sweat's ambulance is parked. and the law enforcement continue to come here. a little bit ago there was a van, a large police van that had a lot of people in it and went up into the parking lot of the emergency room. and they all got out and they went inside. and that is contrary to the other law enforcement just forming the blackockades so people can't drive down the street. so we know even more law enforcement are inside that hospital where david sweat is. it's raining, but the community is here. and they finally feel safe again, poppy. >> i cannot imagine what they've been going through. i'm glad to hear that they feel safe again. if you're just joining us, an kprierd extraordinary past hour here. david sweat who escaped 23 days ago has now been apprehended by the authorities there, just 2 miles south of the canadian border. you're looking at the first picture we've seen obtained of him. this is the first image since he escaped from prison. bloodied but alive with the hope that he will give the authorities all the information as to how this could have happened and who is responsible for helping him and richard matt escape from a maximum security prison that no one has ever managed to escape from in its 100-year history. joining me on the phone, someone who spent time there, a former inmate at clinton correctional facility. it is where both escapees also where. where joyce mitchell allegedly helped them escape. eric thank you for being with me sir. >> you're welcome. >> what is your reaction to this? >> it's -- i'm surprised that it didn't go down worse and i'm glad that it didn't go down worse with law enforcement and nobody else was injured. you brought up an interesting point before. how they were able to just walk down the street in these civilian clothes. inside clinton correctional facility you're allowed to wear a sweat suit you're allowed to wear other things besides your state garment. >> really? >> could have came out of that prison that night and nobody would have knew that they just escaped. >> so you can't see this -- are you watching cnn? can you see the picture we're showing? >> yes. him in the cam flaunl clothing yes, i see that. >> what do you make of his a appearance now? does he look for pale? >> he looks sick. he looks malnutritionl new malnutritioned. he obviously looks like he lost a lot of weight since i last seen him. we used to work out together. he weighed 180, 190 pounds when i knew him. >> let's talk about the relationship between richard matt and david sweat. did you see one as more of the ring leader if you will one as the leader and the other as a follower? >> yes, david sweat was actually very smart, articulate when you spoke to him, you would not guess he was in there for a murder es pebbly a murder of a law enforcement officer. richard matt was more of the like crazy -- he was a crazier person than dave. so one was probably the brains one was probably the brawn. one was the more, let's go do it let's do it now now. dave probably sat there and figured out everything and richard probably kept push it and pushing it. so they complimented each other in a sense. >> have you spoken to any other inmates, fellow inmates who are now out of prison? i don't know if you still keep in touch with some of them in prison and just their reaction the past three weeks to this? the fact that this is a facility where no one has escaped in a hundred years and the fact that it's playing out almost like a hollywood film. some of the tools were passed in frozen hamburger meat, that was there was a sexual relationship with one of the kwex l officers. it's just extraordinary. >> i've spoken to a few people, not people that actually knew richard matt or david sweat. but a few individuals that were in the prison. their reaction is that there is no way that this could have happened without an inside helper. and there you have it joyce mitchell with the hamburger meat with the toils. palmer not scanning that meat because he became so come comprehensive play sent. by them letting people go on the catwalks rig their own electrical outlets up. i paid somebody personally to go do that for me and it happened within the five minutes. now your fuse doesn't blow when you're cooking and watching tv at the same time. >> so you paid -- >> it's really amazing. >> you said so you've paid an officer when you were an inmate there and they broke the rules willingly in. >> oh, definitely, definitely. that's not the only thing they break the rules doing. that's just one of many. they come search your cell. if you have cigarettes and chewing tobacco they'll take it, put it in their pocket ruffle your bed up and there you go. they're onto the next cell. they don't even pay you no mind. if they get what they want you get what you want. >> you knew david sweat, do you think he's going to talk? if he's in a condition -- we don't know how serious his medical condition is at this time. if he is in the condition to talk is this someone that's going to give police the information they want? >> i honestly believe not because now that he's already sentenced to life in prison and going to get an additional 50 60 however many years they give him on top of this, plus ten, 15 or 20 years in solitaire confinement, he has nothing to gain giving information. i understand before he did speak to officers. maybe it was because he thought he'd again a lien cent sentence. if he does pull through these gunshot wounds i guarantee it, he won't talk. >> eric general son former inmate at clinton correctional facility. the same prison where matt and sweat escaped 23 days ago. eric, thank you very much. i appreciate it. do we have gary tuckman on the phone with us? we don't have gary tuckman. as soon as we do we're going to bring you that as well. he has some more information for us. jean just your reaction. you've been covering this throughout. all right, we don't have jean either. deborah. to you. >> i'm here. >> what's your reaction? >> it's really stunning actually. one of the really big questions, we had heard all along that in fact they were -- they were picking things up and then they were leaving other things hiebd. and there was concern -- there was some information that hay had left behind a pair of boots. what it seems to suggest given how david sweat is dressed it seems to suggest that they effectively changed out their prison gear changed out all of the things they were wearing to don in camouflage gear that david sweat, from that picture is clearly wearing. someone who knew him described him as gaunt. clearly, three weeks on the run, moving at a very fast tempo. you can see he's shot, he's bleeding. he's being handlinged by state troopers. new information, he was coming down the road and they saw him and shot him. the sergeant ordered mr. sweat to stop. the man who shot him is actually a firearms instructor. not clear how many shots were fired. they do believe that it was once possibly twice. that's sort of the premise we're working on right now. >> pamela brown being told that sweat was shot twice by that new york state trooper. we just don't know where he's been shot and what his condition is. again, if you're just joining us we continue to follow the breaking news here on cnn from upstate new york. after 23 days and millions and millions of dollars spent on the hunt for two escaped murderers, the second one who was on the lamb david sweat has just been captured. he has been shot and captured. it all went down just before 3:30 this afternoon. take a look at the picture on your screen. this is an exclusive picture of a bloodied david sweat shot by police twice in a field by a new york state police sergeant who we're told now spotted him walking by himself, looked strange, down a road dressed in camouflage. quickly realized two miles south of the canadian border this, this is the man that 1,200 plus officers have been hunting for night and day. this happening just about 48 hours to the minute since his fellow convicted murderer richard matt was shot and killed. remember richard matt was armed. we also learned from and sand ya field reporting that it does not look like david sweat was armed. we do know he's being treated at a local hospital. it does not appear that any officers were hurt in this takedown. but we are trying to confirm that with all of our sources. we've got full team coverage on the ground. deborah, what have you learned? >> this happened a little bit after 3:30 this afternoon. law enforcement saw david sweat walking towards him, ordered him to stop. apparently did not and that's when the new york state trooper opened fire. they were all in that area. david sweat taken about 3 miles from the canadian border. he's being treated at a local hospital in that area. unclear what his condition is. he was gaunt. it appeared he was carrying what appears to be some sort of knife holster on his waist. we're being told he was not armed, certainly was not armed with a firearm it appears. he was caught a significant distance from where the fugitive richard matt was shot and killed just friday. so over the course of 48 hours, we know that he was able to make it from malone, new york, all the way to constable, new york. that means he covered about 20 miles. we're told also that he was walking a trail between two -- they call it a fire break. what they do is make these roads in between the woods so that if there is a fire, they can better contain it. it appears he was taking an easier route in order to get to the canadian border. >> what are your law enforcement forces saying to you about how they feel now? >> well, there's a significant sense soft relief. you also have to think about the time of year that this is going on. a lot of parents this weekend sent their children up to camp up in upstate new york. so the fact that these now both individuals have been effectively taken down one of them dead one of them alive, clearly brings significant relief to all of them. this has been an incredibly growling search for all those involved. there was days where it was 85 degrees and everybody was wearing flak jackets. there was other times it was raining. people were sliding and slipping and getting bruised. it was so dense they could barely make it through the forest in some areas. somebody described it to me as looking for a needle in a stack of needles. >> and the camouflage now we know. now we know that he got this camouflage gear. we don't know where he got it from. this area is dotted with these hunting cabins and that is gear that one would assume -- >> easily. >> here you talk about a densely wooded area. polo sandoval in the field there in constable, new york right near where this all went down, i'm interested in the reaction from local people there. how do they feel now, so many of them living fear for the past three weeks? >> reporter: it really is incredible just how much relief that single picture of david sweat in handcuffs is expected to provide for the people in these tiny towns in upstate new york. people have been living a nightmare for the last three weeks. we remember speaking to some of the individuals immediately following that jailbreak just over three weeks ago which is only about a 40 mile drive from where we are night. people there locked their doors, kept their children from going out, school activities were canceled for a while. just about four days ago when the search started shifting closer to the town of malone, people started locking the doors. i spoke to one individual two days ago that refused to go home. he did not want to stay in his own house. they packed up heading out to a friend's house. not only he but so many others now expected to get their life back to normal. the road behind me route 30 has just been reopened by new york state police. it is perhaps one of the first signs that normalcy could be restored here in upstate new york after a very difficult three-week period. >> thank you for the reporting. for all of you just joining us again, david sweat, the convicted murderer has been shot twice we are told, but captured alive by new york state police officers just 2 miles south of the canadian border where it appears he was trying to flee after his fellow convict richard matt was shot and killed about 48 hours ago. i want you to listen to the local residents, people who have been living in fear now for week sdwls. >> i'm just glad it's over. i'm happy they got him alive so they can get some answers. >> reporter: what answers would you like to know about? >> i want to know who else helped him in the jail. i think that's probably the most important thing right now. >> reporter: what does it to do this community? this is a hundred-year facility. 1845 is when clinton correctional was built. in a hundred years, they never had a breakout like this and now they did. >> my father worked at clinton correctional. he retired there after 37 years. he was very proud of the heritage that they never had an escape. so for this to have happened and under, you know our watch is very upsetting for the law enforcement community. >> people clearly relieved now that these two convicted murderers are no longer on the run in their community. let's talk about it. we have full coverage from law enforcement analyst. we have rich swine with us a former fbi special agent that led the search for the olympic park bomber. eric rue doll f is with us. also former fbi agent jonathan gilliam. rick as we've been covering this now for weeks, what is your reaction to the way that this capture of david sweat went down the fact that they were able to apprehend him and keep him alive? >> i think it's fantastic poppy. and really goes to the dedication of the many different law enforcement organizations that were involved in this. it's not an easy task to harness the combined resources of almost 1,300 state, local, and federal law enforcement officers. there are all kinds of issues you've got to set up a joint incident command post and staff that and run it for a sustained period of time. you know listening to the residents talk about how relieved they are. i'm sure the law enforcement community also has this great collective sigh of relief. it brings to mind the words penned by george orwell many years ago, people sleep soundly in their beds at night because men stand ready to visit violence on their behalf. thank goodness there was some alert law enforcement officers that brought this to a safe and successful end without any innocent loss of life. >> some very brave men and women serving the public for the last three weeks. matthew, your reaction? >> i think it's a rousing success for law enforcement and for the community. you know we've been talking about the numbers of people out on the skeep for weeks now. this is no accident. law enforcement had a plan they had a strategy. we employed many resources. we stayed at the steady scloely by slowly and got it down. >> jonathan to you. do you think this is someone who, if he is in a physical condition to we don't know how badly he's been injured, is this someone that's going to tell police everything? >> i think he will talk. >> what would be his motivation? >> this is how interrogation interviewing works. he's been on the run. he's lost so much weight since he's been out there. he's miserable and hurting. if they can keep him alive, they can transition to a point where he's warm, they give him food i they're nice to him. even though he may have been a murderer before, may have been in jail he's coming from a miserable environment into an environment where they can control that interview him. i think he has everything to gain by talking. i disagree with the one previous -- >> inmate. >> -- inmate that was talking. i think he has egg to gain by talking. he's going to spend the rest of his life in jail regardless. >> it can affect the conditions that he stays. >> he's going to be in isolation or segregation for the rest of his incarceration assuming he pulls through. obviously emergency room doctors are taking heroic steps right now to make sure he does live. he's definitely not going back to the now defunked honor block. if they uncover a systematic pattern of -- and it may just be come play general cy-- complacency. if he doesn't talk he's not going to get any help. if he does he's got nothing to lose. he's done and in the custody of the bureau of prisons. he still maintains rights. they could try him with escape and he could go to trial if he wants to. you know that's just sort of adding insult to injury really in many respects if you were to do that. if he talks, cuts a deal perhaps somebody can negotiate better terms for him. but right now, he's pretty much done. >> more news just into us. i want to let you know we have just learned the name of the very brave officer who apprehended david sweat. sergeant jay cook with the new york state police. sergeant jay cook the one we are told shot twice david sweat, but he was not shot in a way that he was not killed. jonathan your reaction as someone in the field. they spotted him, this sergeant spotted him walking down the street seemed odd, realized that was the convicted murderer they were looking for. to be able to carry this out and shoot him without killing him? >> first off him walking down this cleared area which he was walking through that is a fire break is a common mistake that people like in the field of battle will make where they walk roads, they walk clearings because they're trying to expedite their moviement, but at the same time they're going to give away their movement. i think the officer engaging him was justified. i don't know if he was trying not to kill him or that was just the angle he took the shot. the point was to eliminate the threat. if he went down he didn't have a weapon 2579 then the officer stopped shooting. sweat did not have to have a weapon present with him. because he's a fleeing felon and he was possibly moving to a position to gain a weapon he could have had a weapon that's going to be a good shoot. looking, though at this picture of him where he is shot, that is something that's very critical. i said this earlier, there has to be a level one trauma center to treat these things if it's a bad wound. >> we do know the hospital he's been taken to isn't a hospital that has the highest level trauma center. we can't infer that too much. but you're looking at the hospital where he is being treated. we're being told it isn't the hospital that would have the most critical trauma center. obviously everyone is hoping they will be able to talk to him and get information from him. >> and technically they could decide -- in rare cases that will helicopter people out to a more sophisticated facility. for example, albany medical center would be a prime example of where they might take him if they wanted to make sure they could stabilize him. they want to get him out, get him the kind of treatment he needs so they can keep him alive. that really is their goal. you have to keep in mind also, the people up in that area all so proficient that they knew that they weren't shooting to kill. they were shooting, it appears, to injure and take him down. that's why initially when i 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after sweat was shot and captured by troopers. he was shot by jay cook of the new york state police, two miles from the canadian border. this is the first time we see sweat. at this moment sweat is treated inside this hospital. how did this happen? it happened this afternoon when sweat was seen walking by himself, down the road middle of daylight. they realized quickly this is the man they've been working hard to find. he was shot twice running through a field. coming up this hour new york governor andrew cuomo will join police and give an update on the capture of sweat. live press conference at 6:45 eastern time. let's go to jean on the ground. we are learning sweat is at the hospital the night of the escape the night she was supposed to pick these two up and drive seven hours away. she never showed up. she went to that hospital for chest pain treatment. now 23 days later, sweat is being treated there. >> reporter: that's right. we're at the medical center where david sweat is inside the service area as we speak. doctors are working on him. the community has come out in droves when they heard the second convict has been captured. they're now going to have a sense of safety if their communities for their families and children. we're in a media area now. we've changed our location because we understand the hospital may be making a statement soon. we'll bring that to you at that point. many are wonder physician he will stay at this hospital or go. local law enforcement tell me as a general rule if there's a major surgery and this is hypothetically speaking or surgery, he do transport to other hospitals. this is acute medical center. it's not a trauma center. there's a 73 patient bed hospital locally here in the village. >> jean thank you for reporting. stay with me. i want to bring in casey jordan. we've been talking to her through the weeks about the mind set of someone. i spoke to eric jensen former inmate who knew sweat. he look that photo and said he is pale. someone that clearly looks desperate. take us in the mind of the convicted murderer on the run who 48 hours ago loses his partner in crime. >> for three weeks he's been gambling. i said he's going for broke, going to make mistakes. obviously he d. walking through town in trough a trooper. his mind is enganged in dis ed ined in distorted at this point. he is shaved. he took the time to shave his beard. makes me think he was -- >> big question now obviously is if he does survive, authorities want to know everything they can about how this escape happened. they want to know where the break down was. the criminals like this going to intend the rest of their life in jail.

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