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greater interests of his country to retire and for this newly elected government to put together a new government. >> now the white house may be hearing some form -- may be nearing some form of military action. president obama telling four top lawmakers in congress he'll seek their input but he does not need their permission. our anderson cooper is on the ground in baghdad. we also have michelle cosinsky at the white house covering all. it. anderson you sent time on the ground with young iraqis signing up for the military and the situation about the largest and critical oil refinery in iraq to the north of where you are. who holds control, is it isis or the iraqi government soldiers? >> reporter: yes, really all eyes are on that refinery, as you said t is iraq's largest refinery just outside baiji. they've been attacking it for the last day, the last really 36 hours or so just a few minutes ago, an iraqi colonel at the refinery holed up with his forces called into iraqi television, said they are still at that refinery. they are still fending off isis forces. it's not clear if the forces control part of the refinery or exactly how much the iraqi government, those iraqi military forces still control. the workers are gone, the foreign workers have already been evacuated, that occurred before the fighting began. the retunery has been shut down so that will have an impact here at baghdad, but it will be a big blow to iraq's government if, in fact, isis does take control of that refinery from those last troops who are holding out there. and as you said, i was just driving around baghdad and visited with some young iraqis who have heeded the call, tens of thousands of iraqis have heeded the call for volunteers to fight isis, to sign up. call made pi shia clerics here in baghdad and elsewhere throughout iraq, they have seen a huge turnout for that. i was just at a signup place where there were hundreds of young men, many with no military experience at all, there volunteering to join the fight if and when needed. >> also, anderson, we learned late yesterday that there are some fighter jets off that u.s. aircraft carrier george h.w. bush flying reconnaissance missions, intelligence gathering missions other baghdad over areas there near where you are, hoping to gather the u.s. intelligence that they're going to need, in case they do follow through with any of those air strikes that iraq is requesting. is the sense on the ground there right now from iraqis that indeed, they will get that from the united states? >> there's certainly a lot of hope within the government of nuri al maliki that the u.s. will contribute military help and greater military aid particularly some sort of bombings, whether it's from drones or whether it's from manned aircraft. that is certainly something they have requested, something they would like to see. they need as much help as they can get. the capabilities of the iraqi forces have come under serious questions out in mosul and some of the other areas as you get closer to baghdad. within baghdad itself there is a fair amount of confidence, baghdad being a predominantly shia city there's a fair amount of confidence the shia forces which surround baghdad will be able to fend off isis. they're more motivated perhaps than troops farther out in mosul and some of the other towns where they literally threw down their weapon, took off their uniforms and ran even before isis forces even showed up. but certainly word that the u.s. is doing reconnaissance flights, even though it's not an indication necessarily by the obama administration that they are going to get involved militarily, that they are going to have a bombing campaign. it raises some hope and expectation among the government here. >> but briefly, anderson, do the people, the arming citizens on the ground there want us back, want even air strikes? >> reporter: you know, it really depends who you talk to. talk to the young men volunteering and sign up, with he don't need outsiders helping us, we can do it ourselves, there's bravado. you talk to military personnel off camera, they say we need the aid, they need the help, and certainly we need battlefield intelligence and any support question get would be helpful. >> appreciate the reporting on the ground from baghdad this morning for us, anderson, thank you. i want to turn to the white house, michelle kosinski. the big headline, a number of members of congress, members of the white house considering whether or not in maliki should be replaced and trepidation, they don't want the u.s. government to appear to be dictating who runs iraq. what are you hearing from the white house? >> reporter: right. it's safe and fine for top members of congress, even some top u.s. officials, some people anonymously to be saying this is what really needs to happen, but the white house will not answer that question directly or even would it be better if al maliki were to leave or somebody tell him to leave. and that's for good reason. true, the white house doesn't want to be publicly calling for regime change and you listen to what they're saying. they answer virtually every other question with, well, iraqis need to step up politically as well as militarily, even saying that it's a requirement for u.s. action in iraq for iraqis to make that kind of effort. i know it's easy for us when we're talking about possible responses to iraq to be looking at the military options. are air strikes possible? do we have the intelligence yet in what would that do? what about u.s. special forces? when you look at the white house's assessment of its approach to this situation, it lists number one being urging the iraqi government to form a consensus, and make that inclusive plutical framework first and then secondly bolstering the capacity of iraqi security forces. poppy? >> absolutely. michelle kosinski reporting at the white house this morning, thank you. also this morning an urgent concern about homegrown terror. two men from austin, texas, are behind bars at this hour accused of supporting terrorists in somalia and syria. one of the men reportedly told an undercover agent he was crossing cross-fit in preparation to join radical fugter fugt fighters in syria and watching recruitment videos on youtube. the online videos have become a key recruitment tool for terrorists. >> this is something that's been going on for a while, and since even the early 2000s, people from america, whether citizens, naturalized citizens, illegal aliens, whatever, have gone over to terrorist camps overseas. sites like youtube can be used by extremist groups to propagandaize, to make their case, and to recruit people even in the united states very easily. where before they were out of reach of the terrorist groups. >> let's talk about this with lieutenant colonel rick franco in a, cnn mull tear analyst and former mull tear liaison to the u.s. embassy in baghdad. thank you for being here, sir, i appreciate it. when you look at the two situations, they were isolated we're told by government officials, isolated incidents and we're also told one of them was arrested getting on a plane flying to europe, planning to get into syria through turkey. what do you make of this? how big of a threat domestically? >> this is a big problem because these guys fly under the radar. you don't need anyone to approach them. they could it by themselves on the internet. i watched a lot of the videos they're using. isis puts them out, the victory front puts them out, al qaeda puts them out. they're easily obtainable, they're slickly done, seductive. you could see a young man looking for his way might be taken in by the especially a new convert to islam who wants to be part of the fight for his faith. >> these men both very young in their 20s. when you think about the age and being radicalized, what does that tell you? >> that tells you we've got a problem because since they don't come to anybody's attention, they can easily slip out of the country. now the problem will be down the road. if we have a state or an emirate inside of syria and iraq where isis is in charge, they can go there, be trained and easily come back to this country, because they're american citizens, they have american passports. they walk right through security. >> this is all alleged but when you looked into the backgrounds of these two men, what did you find? what stood out to you? >> well, there's some weakness and i don't want to say weakness but some vulnerability, there's some reason they're able to be radicalized, disenchanted with their lot in life, if you're like the one who was born in bangladesh, didn't find what he was looking for here in the united states and turns to his religion for his way out, and he sees his way out as joining the jihad and going overseas to fight. the other one was a convert to islam, and he now is caught up in the fervor of the moment. he sees the videos and says i want to be part of that. for a young man, it's very is he duck tough, the draw seductive, there. >> becoming radicalized is completely different. >> it's almost the per version of the relingon. >> absolutely. appreciate the expertise. rick franco in a, thank you for that. still to come, bowe bergdahl working to be reintegrated into normal life here in the united states, but at this point that does not include seeing his parents. why is that? ed lavandera has that part of the story. ed? >> reporter: good morning, poppy. we're going to talk a closer look at that. it's been almost three weeks since bowe bergdahl was trefree. we'll look at what's going on with his recovery in san antonio, texas. that's coming up after the break. bill have you seen my keys anywhere? i'll help you look. maybe you left them in the bathroom again. it's just the strangest thing... the warning signs of alzheimer's disease, may be right in front of you. it's alright baby. for help and information, call the alzheimer's 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cnn has reached out to dona donaldsterly's attorney. so far, though, no response. and clothing maker american apparel is kicking out its scandal-plagued ceo doug charney. the board voted to remove him because of alleged misconduct. no details were given as to what that includes. former army colleagues bowe bergdahl had their say on capitol hill at a hearing. they slammed the former p.o.w. and the prisoner exchange that brought him home. his ex-roommate blamed bergdahl for his own capture saying if the soldier had not deserted, he would never have been taken but in texas, bergdahl is staying quiet for now. as far as we know, he hasn't asked to see or speak with his parents. ed latvandera is follow the story. i found that so interesting but a lot of the psychologists said that is a dramatic step. it can take a long time for someone in bowe bergdahl's situation to be ready for that. >> it is fascinating. we've been talking to the medical psychologists that are a part of this team helping out in the reintegration process with bowe bergdahl. they say family is integral to the reintegration process that they're very much needed but at the same time the initial meeting can be simply overwhelming. regardless it's been almost three weeks since bowe bergdahl was freed and interesting to note he still has not met with his family. after taliban captored handed sergeant bowe bergdahl over to a u.s. special forces team in afghanistan, it seemed like an emotional reunion five years in the making would happen quickly between bergdahl and his parents. >> i love you, bowe. >> reporter: looking back on the day after bergdahl's release when his family smoke publicly for the last time there were clues that bergdahl's homecoming might be a bumpy ride. >> the recovery and reintegration of bowe bergdahl is a work in progress. i want to really convey that. because it isn't over for us, and in many ways it's just going for jani and i and our family. >> reporter: his mother hinted that her son would need time. >> give yourself all of the time you need to recover and decompress. there is no hurry. you have your life ahead of you. >> reporter: shortly after sergeant bergdahl was freed, military officials suggested a reunion with his parents would happen relatively quickly but almost three weeks later it still hasn't happened. >> it's been five years for sergeant bergdahl in captivity. lot has changed in his life and mind and family's lives and we need to give them all time to recognize how they can come together and be patiently waiting for each either. >> reporter: the medical team said he can call his parents at any moment and it's been his choice to delay the reunion. according to a "the washington post" report bergdahl picked a family friend to receive his remains if he were killed in afghanistan, not his parents. after bergdahl's release, "the washington post" reported on a collection of journal entries bergdahl wrote before his capture and sent to a friend. bergdahl wrote that he was in an odd place, "like i'm pulling away from the human world, i want to pull my mind out and drop kick it into a deep gorge." it's a soldier struggling to make sense of the world. bergdahl will have more to deal with now that his psychologists are telling him about the media firestorm surrounding his release and the scathing criticisms coming from his fellow soldiers like cody full. >> it was always leave no honorable man behind, not leave no man behind. >> we were prepared to have "bowe is back" and have one great big party and it's not going to happen. >> reporter: any hope of a storybook homecoming evaporated long before bowe bergdahl even set foot in the united states. poppy, like we've mentioned it's been more than two weeks since the bergdahl parents made any public statements about what's going on with their son and how he is progressing. military officials there at the medical center were bowe bergdahl is being treated say that the bergdahl family have kind of trusted in this process in this program fully, and they are following the wishes of the people around bowe bergdahl, so if it takes some time for bowe to communicate with them, that's the steps that they will take. they're saying that the parents are trusting in this process and in the program that is set up for him. >> absolutely. ed lavandera for us live in dallas, thank you. still to come here in "the newsroom," the reigning world cup champs are out! can spain's shocking loss give hope to an upset minded u.s. team? we sure hope so. cnn amanda davies is covering is all in brazil. that's next. >> reporter: hi, poppy. yes the usa have gone from the group g underdogs to the ones to watch here in brazil, the coach says they're going to go even better. i'll be here with a live report from sao paulo in just a couple of minutes. ♪ [ male announcer ] if you can't stand the heat, get off the test track. get the mercedes-benz you've been burning for at the summer event, going on now at your 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is getting on board with soccer, football as they call it. there will be a new champion at this year's world cup. chile socked the reigning champs spain handing the team their second loss in ground play and keeping them from advancing to the next round. it is the first time in world cup history the previous winner has been knocked out after just two matches. could there be more upsets in the games ahead? the u.s. team and their fans certainly hope so. amanda davis is live for us in sao paulo brazil. rough assignment you have there, my friend. >> reporter: you know, it is rough today, poppy. it's the first day i've had to put my coat and scarf on. it's actually really quite cold here in sao paula. i'm not expecting too much sympathy given i've spent ten days on the ba etch in rio. it's not so bad i have to say. poppy, you know when a squad is feeling confident, when they cancel their training sessions, and that is exactly what the u.s. coach jurgen klinsmann, did yesterday. he gave his players a day off for their base here in sao paulo to spend a bit of time relaxing and seeing a few of the sites. klinsmann did address the media. he announced that clint dempsey will be fit to play in the game sunday against portugal, despite his broken nose, and of course a lot of people fearing the worst, too, about the super striker jose altidore and his hamstring injury. klinsmann says he hasn't given up hope. >> with jose we have to see how he reacts the next couple of days with his hamstring and we are full of hope that he comes back still in this tournament and that's what we're going to work on every day. >> reporter: poppy, there's been some suggestions that the usa will just be aiming for a draw against portugal on sunday. klinsmann said no. he is setting up his side to go and claim their second win of the tournament. of course, a lot of focus on portugal's star man, chrystrist ronal ronaldo. he limped out of training again but the portuguese team said he would be fit to play. they would say that, one of the big battles for team usa is actually the journey, 1,800 miles from issao paulo where th game is taking place, the hot, humid amazon, the jungle. the toughest to go to. >> exactly what they probably don't need for this match but you can expect a lot of eyes on it this sunday. amanda davis live for us in br brazil, thank you. still to come here in "the newsroom," as iraq's turmoil grows deeper, calls for the country's prime minister to leave grow leader. with sectarian tensions at the boiling point will that be enough to put an end to the crisis? we're posing that question to our expert panel next. ♪ [ female announcer ] we love our smartphones. and now telcos using hp big data solutions are feeling the love, too. by offering things like on-the-spot data upgrades -- an idea that reduced overcharge complaints by 98%. no matter how fast your business needs to adapt, if hp big data solutions can keep wireless customers smiling, imagine what they can do 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that our actions in iraq contributed to some greater good, if you despair that your friends died for nothing, then the eents of last week simply confirm your view. if you are a veteran to needs to find meaning after so much bloodshed who thinks we built something worthy, crafted a voting populace and democratic government and that your buddies died for a purpose then this unravel something particularly difficult. no wonder so many people are angry seeking to pin the blame on the president who innovated or the one who left, or both." brian castner, good morning to you sir. >> thank you for having me. >> i was really struck when i read this this week. let's talk about what you're feeling, what you're about thba right now. >> i think it is competing perspectives. you have the intellectual curiosity, you know the places. you recognize all the monuments, but on the other hand, there's definitely the sense of distance. you're still just watching it on tv like anybody else and your connections are really tenuous at this point. i don't have any desire to go back and fix it somehow, that there's any work left undone there. >> you write and you are talk a lot about the parallels that you see between vietnam and iraq saying they're undeniable and you write "before my first tour i honestly thought i could help the local people but no noble cause withstood the scrutiny of the war's daily reality. given what we're seeing now unfold in syria and iraq, the growing threat of isis, what do you think the united states should do right now, aside from what you want to do? what do you think this country should do? >> i think that there is, i think we're in the middle of a mess and i don't know, i honestly don't know what the solution is the mess is. i know that the service that my brothers and i, the loyalty that we had to each other, none of that'sen done by what we saw or what we see now. we fought for each other while we were there, and you know, the meaning that we talk from that is what we do going forward. we don't have control over iraq now, and if we try to find meaning there, i just think it's an exercise in futility. >> i'm interested in perspective, what you think watching television and reading in the newspapers, lawmakers in washington pointing fingers at one another, blaming one administrati administration, blaming the other administration. many looking to al maliki saying he failed to unite his country. what do you think when you see that finger pointing? >> i think that while we were there it had very little to do with what we were doing on the ground, and that, i don't know, this might be a little disappointing but when we were sitting around the fire at night talking about missions, it was about what we were going to do the next day, not about what the latest speech was in washington and there is just such a distance. you really get the sense while you're there of how little control you have, and maybe that's the key, that you get the sense that if you're in the middle of the fight, and there's very little that you can do to stop these sides from killing each other, then what's being done with fingerprinting or a new policy or a new speech. >> you write in the op-ed you end it talking about a friend of yours who is a contractor, and you talk about the fact that you haven't heard from him via e-mail, you haven't heard from him on facebook. is he okay? he's there right now. is he okay? >> he is okay as far as we know. he's been in contact with his wife, but of course, social media is shut down in iraq, so we can't really get a hold of him personally, but he's a bomb technician, he was in the army for 20 something years. i trust him to take care of himself, and he knows how to stay safe and get himself out if he needs to. >> we certainly have to think about the perspective from the people like your friend and the others on the ground there. very difficult especially for you and those who served right now. thank you for your sr. we appreciate it very much, brian. >> thank you for having me. >> sure. as government forces battle islamic militants for control of iraq, both sides have claimed the upper hand, terrorists supporters waging a propaganda war job line, posting a photoshopped mockery, it reads bring back our humvee, the reference to isis' theft of a truckload of u.s. made humvees that happened last week. i want to talk about with brian catallas and will cain. thank you both for being here. will, let me start with you. it's interesting, i was reading, we were talking about this a bit last night. you say this is far beyond pointing fingers and blaming one of the administrations. you're not interested in doing that at this point. >> no, i'm not interested. brian had a wonderful perspective right there talking to you. i think it's so narrow-minded to say this is the fault, as many conservatives would say of president obama for pulling us out of iraq and narrow-minded to suggest this is bush's fault as well for putting us into iraq in the first place. we're look the at an upheaval from afghanistan to libya, from syria down through iraq. we're looking at sectarian, tribal, racial, ethnic divided, exploding into chaos and violence and i don't think in is any one president's incapability of controlling. >> pointing finger, but can you learn lessones from past or current administrations? >> look, we've tried full scale invasion and occupation of iraq, we've tried limited bombing and air strikes in libya, tried nonintervention in syria. which one can we point to as success or the model going forward? >> i hear but. >> none. >> brian, to you. i was reading your paper last night talking about this, you just posted this week and you warn of unintended consequences and you're clear you want to do everything or make every advice in your power, not to, for the u.s. not to get involved but at the same time you're not taking air strikes off the table. you think that the u.s. has to be prepared for that. >> i think the u.s. should be prepared for all options, but the thrust of what we should do is keep our eye on the ball. the first thing is we want to make sure this dangerous group doesn't somehow attack the united states, and that's why we need i think the second thing is to support reliable partners and i want to stress reliable because right now in baghdad, the iraqi government is not reliable, and i think it would be a mistake to go back in there and get engaged in what essentially is as will said the sectarian civil war that has deep historical connections here. i think we need to be judicious what kind of engagement we have and that's what the obama administration is trying to do here. >> you talked about the fact if the u.s. is going to do anything to aid the iraqis, they have to have a promise, written agreement of inclusive government reforms serious reform that the maliki government hasn't been able to do. >> if we use our bombs on one side of the sectarian civil war, we could lead to the further fractures of iraq as a nation state. we got to be modest about what we can expect from him, because a leopard does not change his spots. i think we should make those demands but be realistic that maliki governed this way for years. >> quick one-word answer, does maliki have to go, will? >> yes. we're asking something impossible. when is the last time you had a democratic pluralistic in the middle east? >> brian, does he have to go? >> yes, but the iraqi people need to do that. >> with you appreciate your expert ease. thank you. still to come in "the newsroom," on a lighter note, chelsea walking away from her cable talk show headed straight for the web. all the details on her near deal and oh so chelsea statement about moving on. that's straight ahead. bill have you seen my keys anywhere? i'll help you look. maybe you left them in the bathroom again. it's just the strangest thing... the warning signs of alzheimer's disease, may be right in front of you. 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trouble logging on or accessing the website at all. no word on what the problem was. fear not, it is fixed. let's talk about netflix, working hard to become a huge, huge player. they really already are on original programming with series like "orange is the new black." >> like what you done with the place. >> sadly, it's starting to feel like home in here. >> three, two, one, go! this is not how i imagined -- >> my the political drama "house of cards." >> so help me god. >> so help me god. one heartbeat away from the presidency and not a single vote cast in my name, democracy is so overrated. >> now the streaming service is looking to break out the last as it announces a new teal with chelsea handler. brian stelter is here, breaking the news within the hour. what do you make of this move in terms of being a woman in comedy, this say huge move. >> chelsea is the only woman way late night tv show on e! and in it two months and she's been talking for a long time wanting to leave e!. she isn't happy there. netflix was at the top of the list and it wasn't clear if that was going to happen and now it is. she'll have a talk show on fl netflix. what is a talk show on netflix? i watched "titanic" the other night, i went back to a film from the '90s. this brings topical programming to netflix. >> we don't know if if it's daily, what hour of the day it may be released f i, if it's we. >> she said if i'm going to continue working in the industry i had to do something outside of the box. netflix is the mother forward-thinking alert group i've sat down with in ages. how topical will she be, making jokes about in us that happened that day, guests promoting a movie that weekend? this won't come on until 2016 so she has time to figure it out. >> i wonder if you think this is a smart business move, keeps people paying for netflix when they're done bingeing on their shows and what about deployable reach? >> her show "chelsea lately" is on in the united states. this will be in every country netflix is available in. they're in canada, latin america, so it will be reaching in theory a wider audience but there's also a risk these' going to be narrow casting. if you are not in front of people on television every night, she may not be as visible. she may be speaking only to her existing stands and not finding new fans. challenge for paula deen, she's having a new online network so she's going around tv going to the web. the danger for all of these sorts of celebrities who go to the web is that they are going to be speaking to a narrow group of core fans but not finding new ones. >> you don't have to worry about ratings. >> and netflix already has 30 million to 40 million households. unlike paula deen, chelsea handler is going somewhere where there's a giant audience on netflix, everything is on demand. how a talk show works in abon demand world is something we'll find out. >> we'll be watching. appreciate it, thank you. for more on the story check out brian, he wrote a great column, go to cnnmoney.com, it is right there. it could be the break-through that doctors are looking for to help prevent heart attacks. this is big and it's actually in the form of a gene mutation, two new studies show that people who have dramatically lower levels of triglycerides, a fat that circulates in the bloodstream, those people were found 40% less likely to have heart disease. if doctors can mimic that with a drug they can cut the people suffering significantly. joining me is cardiology professor dr. dan roden to talk about this. i found this story and her whole team did absolutely fascinating when we read it this morning. talk to me about how big this is. these are two independent studies that basically verified a smaller study from 2008. >> right, the smaller study was a little genetic study in the amish in pennsylvania, and it had the provocative result that people who had this variation in the gene had much lower triglis ride triglycerides. the question do they have anything to do with heart diseases? 'difficult. we know about ldl, the bad cholesterol so-called but we don't know about triglycerides. the big takeaways from the study, the miuations in the gene have much lower triglyceride levels and lower heart attack restin restings. that links low race to glis rides to low heart attack risk and the mutations all seem to be mutations that destroyed function of the genes. if you had a drug that blocked the protein that the gene encodes a drug would mimic the genetic effect and reduce the imassistance of heart attack. the other important point there are two independent studies, one done in denmark, one across the united states, they have pretty much the same result and that makes it much more believable. >> you know what i was thinking when i read this, it's one thing to find this and that is fantastic, if this really proves out, but it takes a long time for the r&d to go into successful drug development. how far out could we be from that? >> the answer, i don't know, and nobody knows but because this ap apoc3 has been around for a while, companies are figuring out how to attack. we have a precedent. there's a similar story with the gene called pcsk9 which in the mid 2000s, 005, 2006, we had a similar story. people with variants of the pcsk9, about 2% of the population had much lower bad cholesterol levels, ldl cholesterol levels and much, much, much lower heart attack risk, and so that was in 2006, the first report, and in 2012, we have the first reports of a drug that actually lowers pcsk9 levels and looks like it lowers ldl cholesterol dramatically, five to ten years, something like that. >> we'll take it. we'd like it this year but fascinating studies. thank you for the expertise, doctor, in joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. still to come in "the newsroom," too young to play? i don't think so. an 11-year-old tees of course not all the players are so happy about that. andy scholes has the story. >> lucy lee is making history today in pinehurst, north carolina. but not everyone is happy about it. i'll explain after the break. into the air... and polluting the airwaves with lies. they're trying to overturn the epa's carbon pollution... standards by lying about electric bills. the same kind of lies they told about limiting smog, soot... and acid rain. they're fighting against energy efficiency measures that... would lower your bills. just to protect their profits. washington: tell polluters to stop the lies and clean up... their act. i'm j-e-f-f and i have copd. i'm l-i-s-a and i have copd, but i don't want my breathing problems to get in the way of hosting my book club. that's why i asked my doctor about b-r-e-o. once-daily breo ellipta helps increase airflow from the lungs for a full 24 hours. and breo helps reduce symptom flare-ups that last several days and require oral steroids, antibiotics, or hospital stay. breo is not for asthma. breo contains a type of medicine that increases risk of death in people with asthma. it is not known if this risk is increased in copd. breo won't replace rescue inhalers for sudden copd symptoms and should not be used more than once a day. breo may increase your risk of pneumonia, thrush, osteoporosis, and some eye problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking breo. ask your doctor about b-r-e-o for copd. first prescription free at mybreo.com golf fans get to know this name, lucy li. she is teeing off in today's opening round of the u.s. women's open and she is just 11 years old. the sixth grader is the youngest ever to qualify for the tournament. andy shoals joins me now. andy, i didn't know an 11-year-old could play in the u.s. open. >> yeah. it's incredible, right? anyone can qualify for the u.s. open. all you have do is go win one of the smaller qualifying tournaments around the country and that's exactly what lucy li did. you know, she can't even buy a ticket to a pg-13 movie but sure can hold her own out on the golf course. 111-year-old -- 11-year-old lucy li is making history. she's the youngest ever to qualify for a u.s. women's open and lucy is embracing this big stage, despite still being a kid. >> i like everything. math, science and history. i love doing a lot of things, but reading is my favorite. >> reporter: who could imagine, a sixth grader from california, who's barely 5 feet tall will accomplish something tiger woods won't on the golf course this year, tee it up at augusta national and pinehurst number two. >> augusta and pinehurst in two months, that's just amazing. it's mind blowing for me. >> reporter: lucy became serious about the game of golf when she was only 7 years old. >> can your dad beat you? >> no. >> reporter: all aside, there are varying views if an 11-year-old is too young to compete at the highest level. >> i'm not a big fan of it. you know, she qualified so we can't say anything about that. you know, you qualify for an open, it's a great thing, but if you qualify for an open at 11, what do you do next? i don't know if. if it was my kid i wouldn't let her play in an open qualifier but that's just me. >> she'll learn off the other players and see what she needs to improve on. she's 11 years old. >> slew lucy is care-free about expectations this week. >> i want to go out and have fun and play the best i can. i don't care about the outcome. i want to have fun. >> lucy got off to a rough start in round one this morning but poppy, like she said, this week is all about having fun and learning from this just incredible experience she's having. >> just a classic moment when she said that her dad couldn't beat her. clearly not media trained yet and i love it. i love the authenticity. i'm rooting for her. >> what's amazing, she sat up there for 20 minutes and took questions from the media like a champ. 11 years old. i couldn't have done that. >> that is phenomenal. we're cheering her on. thanks, andy. appreciate it. >> the next hour of "cnn newsroom" with don lemon begins here after a quick break. when salesman alan ames books his room at laquinta.com, he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. so he knows exactly when he can check in and power up before his big meeting. and when alan gets all powered up, ya know what happens? 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