Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With John Berman And Poppy

Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With John Berman And Poppy Harlow 20180719

On the military front bauds russian Officials Say there were verbal agreements between putin and trump that officials know nothing about. Thats a big deal. The state department is flatly rejecting a proposal that the white house says its considering allowing russians to interrogate american citizens whom moscow loathes. Among them, a former u. S. Ambassador to russia. Even now the president tells cbs news he doesnt know what all the fuss is about from his oneonone summit with Vladimir Putin and the postsummit news conference. Meantime, this is the cover of Time Magazine summing it up in a single image, a emergencied image of trump and putins fa d faced. The president still predicts he and putin will have a Good Relationship and even in that interview where he went farther than ever before, he wouldnt call putin a liar. He denies it so if you believe u. S. Intelligence agencies, is putin lie ing ying . I dont want to get into whether or not hes lying, i can say i have confidence in our Intelligence Agency as currently constitutes. Dan coats is excellent. Abby phillip is at the white house. Good morning. I think a lot of people wondered what President Trump would do once he was sitting down in an interview setting around whether he would reiterate that he accepts the findings of the Intelligence Community that russia did in fact meddle. Listen to what he had to say when asked at length about this issue. You say you agree with u. S. Intelligence that russia meddle inned the election in 2016. And ive said that before, jeff, ive said that numerous times before and i would say that that is true. Do you hold putin personally responsible . You havent condemned his specifically . I would because hes in charge of the country just like i consider myself to be responsible for things that happen in this country so as the leader of the country you have to hold him responsible, yes. What did you say to him . Very strong on the fact we cant have meddling. Were also living in a grownup world. Will a strong statement president obama supposedly made a strong statement. Nobody heard it. What they heard is the statement he made to putins very close friend and that statement was not acceptable. Didnt get very much play relatively speaking but that statement was not acceptable but i let him know we cant have this were not going to have it and thats the way its going to be. Getting to that answer only took about two days for President Trump but were learning more information about what President Trump knows about this. The New York Times is reporting that the president was briefed in january, 2017, with integral details about how the United States Intelligence Community knows that Vladimir Putin directed and was behind this attack. According to the times the present was presented with topsecret intelligence showing Text Messages from these russian agents discussing the strategy for meddling and also information from a topsecret source close to Vladimir Putin talking about the plan here so its clear President Trump has had this nrgs but hes still struggling to get his story straight on the public stage. Abby phillip, thank you very much. We heard from the White House Press secretary about this broad list of topics the two president s discussed behind closed doors on monday but thats not really helping many leading the u. S. Military who are trying to answer reporter questions about the supposed reporter verbal agreements that President Trump made on the military front. Ryan, the Russian Ambassador says they have these important verbal agreements but according to your reporting u. S. Military leadership has no idea what the agreements were. Thats right. The u. S. Military is not clear what came out of helsinki. We heard from the top u. S. General in the middle east who overseas u. S. Forces in the region. He says hes received no specific direction following the helsinki summit between putin and trump. One of the topics that was discussed between trump and putin was the issue of syria. In syria the u. S. Military and Russian Military operate in close proximity to one another and they held a deconfliction hotline that allow them to avoid accidents. Were told that continues but in terms of boosting that any more, something the russians seem to suggest was on the table, the u. S. Military has received no guidance. A u. S. Spokesperson said when we have more information we will talk about it. So not must have information in terms of what was being talked about. Ryan brown, thank you for bringing that to us. An extraordinary statement as well from the white house. The white house confirming it is considering this proposal put forward by Vladimir Putin for russia to interrogate prominent americans. Among them former u. S. Ambassador to russia from 2012 to 2014 Michael Mcfaul and americanborn financier bill browder who lobbied the United States to impose new sanctions on moscow during the Obama Administration in exchange it says it would provide assistance in russias probe. The white house says its considering this. The state department calls it absurd. Listen. He said it was an interesting idea. He didnt commit to anything. He wants to determine if there is validity that would be helpful to the process, weve committed to nothing. It was an idea that they threw out. What i can tell you is that the overall assertions that have come out of the russian government are absolutely abs d absurd. The assertions the russian government is making about american citizens, we dont stand by those assertions that the russian government makes. To give you a sense of how extraordinary it is that the white house is even considering this, ambassador mcfaul tweeted even during stalin era the soviet government never had the awe d audacity to arrest u. S. Government officials. Joining me now is max baucus, ambassador to china. For americans waking up trying to wrap their heads about this offer from putin, the president , President Trump, called it an incredible offer. Well, i was ambassador china and i had confidential classified conversations with president obama. If president xi were to force the United States to turn me over to him that would have such a Chilling Effect that i could not be effective as an ambassador. That would send the same signal to everybody in the Diplomatic Co core. Mcfaul is a former ambassador. Let me be clear how much moscow and putin specifically loathe bill browder and loathe Michael Mcfaul because of their work together, the magnet sitsky act passed. I was very involved in the passage of that act. Its worse than that. We tend to assume when we have these discussions that were dealing with an ordinary other country. Were not, this is russia. Theres no due process and rule of law. Dont forget, this is a one way deal. Our former ambassador what would happen to them if this happened and if the president could extend his executive power and Legal Authority that far . What do you think would happen to bill browder and Michael Mcfall . It wont happen. Theres also a due process procedure in the United States that as any american citizen had to go through due process, it wont happen. Heather nauert says its absurd and Sarah Sanders says well get back to you, were thinking about it. It shows that President Trump is on some other planet. Hes not part of the ordinary state Department Foreign Service Establishment by making such statements. Theres so many questions here that question his legitimacy as president and i think its time for the American Press to be much more candid. Dont forget, the basis of our First Amendment is transparency. The fourth us state is you should the First Amendment is they have to investigate, find the facts, report the facts and trumps lying. Hes a flat out liar and i think the press needs to say more about that. We all my colleagues in media call him out on it everyday. Take, for example, the New York Times reporting this morning, digging up something very important, david sangers piece in the times this morning we find out two weeks before the inauguration that President Trump was shown this information by clapper that showed him emails and Text Messages proving putin had personally ordered the cyber attacks. What does that knew reporting teach us about the president s mindset and the statement he is made . You cannot trust this man and he will more likely than not if he wants to transfer classified information to a foreign power. It cant be trusted. It borders virtual treason, frankly. Well get into this polling more later but theres new seept polling out on how americans think he handled this summit and only 21 of republicans approve. Well, dont forget theres a difference between the party and republican senators. Republican senators have an obligation to their own states and its easier for me to say this because im not longer in the senate but they should stand up. And do something. Ambassador, thank you for being he here. With me now a very smart man to answer an important question, jeffrey toobin, our chief legal analyst. Jeffrey toobin, it strains credulity to think the president could stretch his executive power this far and some way some how hand over ambassador mcfaul and bill browder who is no longer a u. S. Citizen to the russians. Could it happen . As a technical legal matter its unlikely but probably not impossible. There are as the senator said. There is a due process requirement within the United States but the real obstacle here is political. As you saw there would be a revolution in the state department if the president made any move in this direction. One of the bedrock principles of Foreign Service is that we will not cooperate with politically motivated investigations of our personnel overseas which is precisely what this is. So i dont think its going to happen but if the president were to push it legally i suppose there is some yuan sfleuniverse it could. Jeffrey toobin, stick around. Dont go to breakfast, dont go anywhere, stay here. British police have identified two suspects in the poisoning of an exrussian agent and his daughter. And in the United States a judge says an accused russian spy was too big of a flight risk. Order her to stay in jail without bond as prosecutors say Mariia Butina tried to exchange sex for political access. Plus a powerful moment at the espys. Look at that. More than 100 survivors of usa gymnastics doctor Larry Nassars sexual abuse stand up and take the stage. 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New this morning, most americans disapprove of how President Trump handled the summit with Vladimir Putin. 55 of americans say he mishandled it. When you look at republicans, look at this number, just 21 of republicans disapprove of how the president handled it. 68 approve. With me now, a. B. Stoddard, columnist for real clear politics, rachel bade and sean turner. Nice to have you here. Rachel, that number is stunning because of the outcry we heard from every republican lawmaker. How do you see it. Republicans across the country who obviously are sticking with trump and dont see this whole press conference with putin and his agreeing with putin or rather taking putins word about not interfering in the u. S. Election as a problem or reason not to support the president. Thats why on capitol hill this week i think well see republicans take a cautious approach when it comes to this. Republicans on the hill are very concerned about the president s tone toward russia and they want to do something about it and from talking to them they feel like theyre separate from him and if the president isnt going to push back they need to do something, whether its passing resolutions supporting the Intel Community or a resolution that would increase sanctions on russia should they interfere again in 2018 which a lot of them think russia will. But they wont attack the president personally and theyll do it very cautiously because of these polls. Its clear the base is with the president. So a. B. Stoddard, if you look at lets pull up the Time Magazine cover this which is a merger of trumps face and putins face. That speaks to the beltway and lawmakers but to rachels point, the white house has to be looking at numbers and smiling. Absolutely. They have indicated in recent days across several reports that they didnt frantically head to capitol hill to assuage everybody that is panicking because this happens a lot and they dont believe republican senators and congressmen will push back in a meaningful way that poses a challenge to trump who will attempt to sweep this under the rug and move on like he does with other controversies he creates. The interesting thing for republicans rachel is right, when i speak to them off the record or on background they cite his popularity numbers with their primary voters in their districts. That i admit its about hanging on to power and not do what they fought for for years, shrink government, confront russia, pare down the debt. So you see this on tariffs and russia where they dont believe what their voters believe but theyre waiting for a signal for their voters who follow trump down every path. So changing the subject from we honor and respect and believe the Intelligence Community, we will assure our russian allies and will confront the russian which is what you hear to what happened in those two hours, thats going to be tricky terrain for republicans in these coming days. So sean turner to you as someone who worked in communications with the Intelligence Agency maybe thats why President Trump thinks its fine not to answer jeffs glor question about do you think president putin is a liar. So this in the face of Christopher Wray saying in this interview in thes a member Security Summit that not only did russia do this it continues to do this and it is the main aggressor. You have him doubling down, you have coats saying it but the president wont call putin a liar. Ive talked a lot about why this is so difficult for the Intelligence Community. They have known for a long time, going back to the beginning of the president s term in office that the president not only knew exactly what the russians did to interfere in our elections but he knew where the order came from. Thats the New York Times reporting this morning from david sanger that two weeks before inauguration he was told putin ordered this. So theres been a sense of bewilderment over why the president continues to equivocate and deny the facts here. But on this issue of what we were talking about in terms of the numbers, the president

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