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CNNW CNN Newsroom With John Berman And Poppy Harlow January 16, 2018

I think a number of prominent democrats have come out and said that they dont feel like attaching daca to the budget is a good idea and so hopefully well stick to that and get something done. It is stalling negotiations. No, i think hes worried that democrats unwillingness to actually put the country ahead of their party is what is stalling things from moving forward. Whether it is the budget or whether it is a deal on daca. All right, also happening now, youre looking at live pictures from the Senate Judiciary committee. The Homeland Security secretary Kirsten Nielsen will testify today. This could be contentious. It brings together three players who were in that Oval Office Meeting where the president dropped the sbomb, two senators whose versions of the meeting differ very much from hers. So im sure they will have a lot to talk about. Well keep our eye on this hearing. First up, abbie Philip Morris at the white house. Abbie . The debate continues to rage over that Oval Office Meeting that turned fiery. And the we learned over the weekend according to some sources that the president , while he was in florida at his maralago resort, had been calling and talking to friends about this meeting and saying that he thinks that this is going to play well with the base, that his use of that those curse words and that meeting might actually gin up his base on this immigration issue. But we talked to Sarah Huckabee sanders this morning, a little bit about that, and asked her why the president would say that to his friends and then have others like the two republican senators who were in that meeting seem to deny that the president used that language to begin with. Listen to what Sarah Sanders had to say to us. If he didnt make that remark, the expletive, why did he spend the weekend defending it . Look, the president hasnt said he didnt use strong language. And this is an important issue, hes passionate about it, hes not going to apologize for trying to fix our immigration system. Hes committed to doing that and hopefully democrats will be too. Reporter and as you mentioned, Kirsten Nielsen who is about to appear on the hill, is one person that was in the meeting. She says she doesnt recall the president using that language. So that debate continues on, but meanwhile, the president is tweeting and hes talking about the daca deal and blaming democrats already for a failure to get to come to the table and get a bipartisan compromise. The president continues to talk about his border wall, hes not backing away from that, and we still seem to be very far away, as far as the two camps are going to be able to come together on an immigration deal. The president seems pretty combative on social media this morning calling out democrats pretty sternly for the last 72 hours of back and forth, especially over this Oval Office Meeting. Abby, thanks so much. Right to capitol hill now to get a sense of the status of negotiations, if there are any. Cnns Sunlen Serfaty is there. Reporter it is a crucial day and crucial week. Congress has four working days to keep the government open and operating. They need to get a deal before midnight on friday night. And as of now, there is no resolution up here on capitol hill. Both sides really are becoming more entrenched in their positions. At this moment, it seems the direction that this is all heading is that Republican Leaders are likely going to separate daca, separate that out with the spending bill and attempt to pass some sort of shortterm spending bill. But that is exactly where this becomes really tricky and where the threat of a potential Government Shutdown becomes potentially very real. You have Republican Leaders in the house who need to corral support within their own party, many house conservatives, defense hawks, are not happy about the needing to potentially pass another stopgap measure. And in the senate, you have Republican Leaders who need democrat support to get any spending bill through. They need 60 votes. You have senate democrats, many saying, look, this is my line in the sand, im not going to sign any spending bill that doesnt include daca extensions here. So you have a situation where already four days before a potential shutdown, a lot of finger pointing, a lot of politics at play, thinking about reelection races, and, again, four days before shutdown, before the government runs out of money. All right, we all wonder what happened to the i will sign an agreement that they come to me with even if i dont like it, that was from the president not long ago. All right. So lets go back to this hearing, because there is an important hearing under way. What exactly did the president say in that now infamous meeting at the white house with the lawmakers . You can bet Homeland Security secretary Kirsten Nielsen will be asked that under oath today. She was in the room. She was. She says she doesnt recall the president saying blank hole. She hasnt been pressed on the house version of that, but lord knows she might be today. Jessica steiner has the very latest for us on the hearing. Jessica . Reporter all eyes on this hearing to see if it does devolve into really a he said she said. Senator dick durbin versus Homeland Security secretary Kirsten Nielsen. Nielsen insisted in Television Interviews over the weekend she did not hear President Trump make that controversial shole remark. But democratic senator dick durbin, he was one of the first out of the gate late last week, leading that outcry over the president s use of the word in the Oval Office Meeting. Durbin, in fact, says the president s words were hatefilled, vile and racist. Over the weekend, the president saying emphatically hes not a racist. Also in this hearing today, republican senator Lindsey Graham, hell be there, hes also stood by his recollection that the president said shole. So well see if he does challenge secretary nielsen. But secretary nielsen, she did double down this morning when she was asked how some lawmakers heard the president use that controversial word and why she says she doesnt. Take a listen. I have no problem repeating what i said. I just dont i dont thats not a word i remember being used. It is not a particular phrase that i heard. So secretary nielsen there continuing to deny continuing to deny she heard anything. So well see how this back and forth plays out in the Committee Hearing that started at 10 00 a. M. , ongoing. And, of course, amid that, the question will lets go to dick durbin, hes speaking to reporters. But we did what the president challenged us to do and now i hope senator mcconnell and speaker ryan will move forward in that spirit. If republicans dont go along with the should Chuck Schumer hold the line . All right. Hopefully well be able to cue that back up so we can hear what senator durbin had to say. Hes critical in all of this, given hes the one that came out and said the president made these remarks repeatedly. One of the senators on the judiciary committee, who will be able to ask questions to Homeland Security, Kirsten Nielsen about the discrepancy, the differing views they have. House versus hole. Back to jessica schneider, so sorry, i think we have jess, do we . So sorry to interrupt you. We were trying to hear what durbin had to say. Finish what you were saying . Reporter it will be interesting to hear what durbin has to say there. Hes standing by his understanding and what he heard inside that Oval Office Meeting. Of course, secretary nielsen has said repeatedly she did not hear any of those controversial comments. So this is all playing out amid that Senate Judiciary hearing. Of course, a lot of other issues that secretary nielsen wants to address today. She is expected to address daca, immigration, of course, big hot topics on capitol hill this week. She did say this morning that even if daca isnt extended by the deadline, she says that those socalled dreamers, they will not be a priority when it comes to ice. So secretary nielsen saying that they could be potentially still safe. Shes also expected to really defend the president s policy. She has already come out to say that it is logical to push for meritbased immigration as opposed to one that is based on quota. She did take it a step further in interviews over this weekend and this morning saying that she takes offense to the president being called a racist. So all of this, the backdrop in this Senate Judiciary Committee Hearing, where we know secretary nielsen is really focusing her opening remarks on immigration, and all of that, but well see, of course, if the controversial comments from the president really become front and center and if there are any fireworks that go off in this repeated battle amid this terse language about immigration. Poppy and john. Jessica schneider for us, thank you very much. A very busy day on capitol hill. Something else big going on right now behind closed doors. Thats steve bannon, former senior strategist at the white house, Campaign Chair for President Trump, behind closed doors testifying to the House Intelligence Committee. He arrived up on capitol hill an hour early for this meeting. So badly did he want to be there that he showed up an hour early. This follows the publishing of fire and fury by Michael Wolff where steve bannon said explosive things about donald trump jr. , about things having to do with russia and the russia investigation and then had that falling out with the president. Cnns manu raju outside the hearing. Reporter taking place right now, expected to go several hours as lawmakers want to question steve bannon about what he knew about any russian contacts that occurred during the Trump Campaign while he was there. As well as what he knew about contacts between michael flynn, the russian ambassador, the time of the transition period, and about why he made those rather inflammatory remarks in Michael Wolffs book about that june 2016 trump tower meeting. Bannon said it was unpatriotic, treasonous, and also questioned whether or not then candidate trump was aware of this meeting. This is something that donald trump jr. Said under oath, that there was no discussion with his father about this meeting. Bannon was not part of the campaign at the time, seemed to think otherwise, lawmakers want to understand why. Now, bannon is not the only high profile witness expected to come before the House Intelligence Committee this week. Were also expecting corey lewandowski, the former Campaign Manager, who had some separate contact with George Papadopoulos who lied to the fbi about contacts that he had with russians, lewandowski expected this week. And were also expecting hope hicks, the White House Communications director, to speak to the House Committee as soon as this week. It could happen on friday, were told. This is incredibly significant because, of course, shes a sitting white house official, which is very unusual to interview a sitting white house official as part of an investigation and shes incredibly close with the president , having been one of the first hires on the campaign trail, also by his side now, also has knowledge of that misleading statement that came out on air force from air force one in the aftermath of that donald trump jr. , trump tower meeting reports, all those questions expected to be asked this week on capitol hill. Well see if they get the answers they want, though. Lurking outside the doors. I dont think hope hicks has ever given an interview since shes been working with the president. I have not seen her speak out loud, make noise since we heard from bannon, et cetera. She gave an interview to robert mueller. Thats not exactly on tv. Our thanks to manu. President trump, he says the democrats want to shut down the government over amnesty for all. 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Were introducing the bill, bringing it to the floor, so members can see it in detail. We want them to read it in detail and were calling on senator mcconnell as the leader, he can set the agenda in the senate. Lets bring this matter to a vote before we reach the deadline up front. And the republicans in your Bipartisan Group agree with that strategy . Yes. And were growing in number. Thanks to efforts by Many Republican senators, senator graham, senator flake, senator gardener and others, are reaching out to their colleagues. I think they want to step forward and solve this problem. I do. Most americans do. Senator, the president has labeled you, called you names, dicky durbin, said youre to blame if the negotiations fall apart. What is your response . The president challenged us at his Cabinet Meeting to come up with a bipartisan agreement to solve the problem and hit four major elements in it. We did everything he asked and presented it to him on thursday. It is the only bipartisan agreement that has been brought forward and we spent four months putting it together. So we met the president s criteria. Remember at one point he said whatever you send me, ill sign. Ill take the political heat on this. Well, we showed up thursday, with our bipartisan bill and presented it to him with a much different story. Some of these republican colleagues have impugned your credibility, essentially. They said this is what happened at your meeting. Politics and beanbag. I understand that. But ill tell you this, i stand by every word i said about what was said and what happened at the meeting. Do you intend to confront the criteria of come on down and see it. Let the press well talk about some serious issues on the part of security. Bottom line, you dont think well see a shutdown this week . It is republican majority is in control of the house and the senate. They have the white house. Were prepared to work with them. And put down a list of things that should be included and they had it for weeks. From my point of view, they should move forward. Lets stop postponing this a week or two at a time for goodness sakes. It is an embarrassment to congress we cant reach an agreement. We spent four months to reach an agreement on immigration, on daca. It wasnt easy. I had to

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