Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With John Berman And Poppy

Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With John Berman And Poppy Harlow 20170706

Did. He made clear, no one can know for sure, which is a different message he is getting from his own u. S. Intelligence. Jill, cnn contributor for the Woodrow Wilson center. Jill, i want to start with you. I dont want to leave these pictures because i want to stay on the president as he deplanes. Im not going play his sound from earlier in the speech in warsaw, but i want to read you what he said. The urge russia sees as destabilizing activity and elsewhere and the hostile regime, join the nations in the fight against common enemies. Jill, that is really the clearest statement warning that we have heard from President Trump as president or candidate to russia and Vladimir Putin yet. How will it be received . Well, that is correct. However, Vladimir Putin is a person who looks at details. I think Vladimir Putin is probably looking at two Different Things right now. Number one is that speech, which was obviously written and carefully vetted by his, mr. Trumps advisers and probably the state department and others. Its a clear exposition of the United States view. Its a clear endorsement of article v. Then you have the other statement that President Trump made, which is nobody really knows, its unclear who did or who carried out any type of interference in the american election. That is something that donald trump said. At that point, he was at a news conference. This was not scripted. He said what he said before. I think Vladimir Putin looks at that and says, yes, the first statement is an official statement. Thats fine. The second one is what he really thinks. I think, you know, mr. Putin, president putin is very adept at driving a wedge into an argument. He is, by training, a lawyer, yes. Soviet law, but still, he will drive these in. He wants to know what donald trump really is thinking. I think he just heard what donald trump is thinking, which is an element of doubt. By doing this, donald trump has undercut his bargaining position already with president putin. Very interesting notion there. David, on the one hand, the president is speaking out against the destabilizing activities of russia. You know, im no expert on intelligence, but could russian hacking be considered a destabilizing activity, david . Theres no doubt about it. Thats going into this. This is going to be very interesting going into the bilateral with putin. That is to say its the optics. Its not only the substance. The substance swings back and forth, depending on whether hes speaking off the cuff, from his heart, probably or a script from the people in the white house and the state department who have been drafting it. The optics are important in this speech or this meeting. Remember the last time trump met a senior russian official, he met Sergey Lavrov and the former ambassador to kislyak. That is different than most of the professionals at the kremlin watch and the putin watchers in the government and the United States government would like to see. Thats not the atmosphere they would like to see. This meeting is important for the optics and the substance. You talk optics, we saw something there, roling out the red corporate for the president to deplane air force one. The president was speaking in warsaw in front of thousands of cheering, adoring fans, chanting his name there. He was speaking about strength, the strength of nato and really the defiance of the people of poland, in some cases europe, for the struggle they have had over the last several generations. That message, i imagine will be received well, particularly in eastern and central europe. The reason its going to be received so well is poland, once its suffering recognized. This was the first time i can remember that a u. S. President has spent so much time talking about the struggles of the polish people. Other president s visited poland and talked about some aspects of it. This was a pretty good tour deforce that outlined everything in the modern polish history that really was important to the polish people. It shows a degree of solidarity with the european nation that we really didnt expect President Trump to show at least at this juncture. Watching Melania Trump and the president of the United States deplaning, coming off air force one, off a short flight from warsaw. Its been less than 24 hours in poland, but very warmly received there. The president waving to the Group Meeting him. He will get on the helicopter and fly to the meetings of the g20. Well have to wait to see what the transportation is. Nic robertson, again, this is really a jam packed two days of meetings the president has. We focused on the meetings with Vladimir Putin but theres another aspect as well. The president of china is there, trying to assume leadership at the g20 and this looming issue of north korea hanging over the meetings as well. A lot to discuss in the coming days, nic . Reporter yeah, a lot of things that are definitely and intricately connected here. He will meet with president abe from japan, the issue is going to be about north korea. You know, japan, south korea, in a good part on the same page as the United States, wanting to get stronger u. N. Sanctions against north korea. When he goes into that meeting with abe, hell be aware that, you know, 24 hours earlier, abe will be been striking a new free trade deal with the European Union that is being flouted in President Trumps face. This is the way we want to do it. Lower customs. Germany and the rest of europe, of course. And the European Union to export products to japan. You know, there will be parts to that meeting that might, on the one hand seem they are on the same page. Other parts where they have differences of opinion. This is going to be something that President Trump has to navigate. So, five set meetings in the next couple days of actual g20 meetings. A couple are working lunches. These are hour, twohour sessions long, 20 leaders, its hard to see them getting much to say. There will be all those bilaterals as well. They are adding up. Its a very, very full plate with President Trump coming in here. A lot of it not to the taste he likes, john . Nic robertson, im going to let you get back to reporting. Im going to add michael sheer New York Times white house correspondent. Thank you for being with us. You can see over the course of today, the president s political advisers at work as well. The president had a lot of points today in two appearances so far. One was the press conference where he managed to get in criticism to the press, doubts about the idea of a russian hacking. Then in that speech, which was something that the white house was proud of leading up to it. This is a speech they pointed to saying, he is going to make news here. Listen carefully to what he says, not just russia, but what he says about the west. These are messages, all of them, that the white house wanted to deliver today. I would point out that the United States has demonstrated not merely with words, but with its actions that we stand firmly behind article v the mutual defense commitment. We played a soundbyte of President Trump standing behind article v a message he wanted to send. To me question, politically speaking, they are all points the president wanted to hit today. I have been on so many of these trips with president s and this is a classic one where the president of the United States has to navigate domestic and Foreign Policy. You have a breaking news Foreign Policy crisis with north korea. You have the delegate and not good relationships with many of the g20 partners hes about to meet with after undermining those relationships with his actions on the paris climate and chiming in about nato last time around. Then you have domestic politics. He is speaking not only to the people of the world, but supporters of the world back home. Thats when you get messages about the doubts of the russian connection to the election meddling. Thats where you talk about populism and him sending kind of unmistakable message to people back home that, you know, hes going to standup around the world on trade issues and other things that they care about and maybe the elites dont care about so much. Its a really all president s, you know, have this, these sort of dual tracks they are on on these trips. This is particularly complicated. Fascinating to see, again, the president getting ready to take off in marine one where he will head to specific meetings. First on tap, meeting with Angela Merkel. This bilateral meeting, official bilateral meeting with the russian leader, Vladimir Putin. Talk to me about the significance of that, its been elevated to something more than a meeting in the hallway to this official oneonone. Well, presumably, there is something specifically they want to talk about. They could have arranged this as kind of a brush by in a hallway and the two men, you know, chat and say hi. That would be very unpredictable. So, obviously, the president s advisers had the idea and probably President Trump, himself, had the idea they wanted to sit down. There would be other people in the room. There will be interpreters. Its not that long. Its supposed to be about a half an hour, unless Vladimir Putin is late, which is always a factor, because president putin always is late. We have to see how much time they end up with. But, you know, what do they want to talk about . Well, obviously, there are things, they want to have deliverables. Usually, behind the scenes, deliverables are worked out, something you could sit down and work at at least rhetorically to say we came to agreement on or we are going to work on. So, what would that be . Syria would seem to be the easiest one in terms of, you know, coalition, fighting, terrorism, et cetera. North korea is going to be very difficult. I could presume that probably president putin might want to talk about that and try to dissuade President Trump from taking military action or any increasing sanctions. Thats not what president putin wants to do and, interestingly, putin met with the chinese president in moscow on tuesday of this week, right before they joined forces saying we dont want anymore sanctions on north korea. Lets do this diplomatically. Theres an interesting wrinkle there. Also, i think, you know, both men ant to get the measure of the other. How they do it, you know, the body language, who is tough, who listens. Vladimir putin has, of course, been doing this now for 17 years as the russian president. He will hes used to sizing up other leaders. Hes used to working with them and kind of lets say seducing, manipulating and getting them into a position he can talk about what he wants to talk about. The trip for donald trump, will be to talk about u. S. National interests, not just can we get along . Wouldnt it be nice to Work Together . Really, what does the u. S. Want out of the relationship with russia . How do the two countries, the Biggest Nuclear armed countries in the world deal with with each other . I mean, there are serious voices out there saying one of the primary things they ought to be doing is preventing war between russia and the United States. Thats not an exaggeration. One plane shot down in syria could spark something. One plane shot down in the baltic sea, getting close to each other could start a conflict. So, this is very serious. We dont know. I think, ultimately, that is the strange thing about this meeting. With donald trump, we really dont know whether he will go off script, whether he will want to do something personal, strike a deal with putin. I think you have to be very careful. President putin is very experienced and knows what hes doing and came in there and coming into that meeting with definitely a clear idea of what he wants. Does President Trump now know, precisely, what he wants from that meeting . Its a very good point. What does the u. S. Want out of the meeting. The russians flat out said this morning, they dont know what the United States wants. The conflicting statements with President Trump sending signals that are confusing to moscow. Maybe its a good thing and puts them off balance headed into the meeting. David, one thing is clear, this will be a test of leadership of President Trump over the next few days. He has so much on his plate. What will you be looking for . Well, you know its interesting. I go back to the start of the g20s in the late 1990s. Really, this is trump comes into this meeting really with more strikes against him, more thumbs in other peoples eyes, if you will, than any other president in modern history. He has a whole host of issues to navigate. He needs to navigate trade, which has been talked briefly about. Interestly, the chinese announced they were buying 140 jet planes, 23 billion from airbus, boeings competitor. Thats a very key issue. A lot of leaders are trying to needle, stick trump with something that is either needle him and get him riled up or they are going to try to find some way of basically seizing the moment and one of your other speakers this morning mentioned that really, china is looking to take a leadership role, suddenly in the g20. Its never been able to do that in the past. Putin, alongside them would like to insert his role in the g20. Then you have to look to western europe, Angela Merkel and emanuel. Next week coming back here for that. They have a host of priorities as well. Climate change and trade as well. All of these are Critical Issues and trump is, sadly, on the wrong side so far of most of them. On the wrong side according to them. Some of those western european leaders, the stances have been unpopular there, less unpopular in central and Eastern Europe and not unpopular at all with his own base, which he is playing to during the overseas trip. Thank you so much. We have been seeing President Trump arrive in hamburg, germany on his way to a meeting with german chancellor, Angela Merkel. How is this being seen in the United States . Hes said controversial things already this morning. Well discuss with two key members of congress from both parties. Stay around. You can use whipped topping made. 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Vita coco coconut water, hydration comes naturally. I think it was russia, but i think it was probably other people and or countries and i see nothing wrong with that statement. Nobody really knows. Nobody really knows for sure. Nobody really knows. President trump, this morning, while in poland saying nobody really knows whether russia hacked into the u. S. Election engaged in meddling during the campaign season. That is not what his own intelligence agencies say. Joining me to discuss, plus the other news President Trump made during the morning so far in europe, democratic congressman, ted liu. Thanks for being with us. First, your reaction to what we heard. Nobody knows for sure. Thank you, john, for your question. My thoughts and prayers are with my colleague Steve Scalise admitted to the hospital in serious condition. Anyone who has seen the classified information knows the president is not telling the truth when he says no one really knows if russia engaged in the cyber attack last year. Russia did it. Theres no rational person who looked at evidence and concluded otherwise. So, one of the people that looked at the evidence was then president obama. President trump made a point of quoting, in fact, in the telling Washington Post article that had members of president obamas staff saying they thought they choked on this intelligence. Listen to what President Trump said this morning. He did nothing about it. They say he choked. I dont think he choked, i think he thought Hillary Clinton was going to win the election and he said lets not do anything about it. A fair criticism, congressman that president obama had seen the intelligence you are talking about right now and didnt do more . Yes, that is fair criticism. I wish President Trump didnt do this on foreign soil, but i agree that president obama did not do enough to

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