Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With John Berman And Poppy

Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With John Berman And Poppy Harlow 20170501

You dont want it to be fake news. I want to hear from President Trump. You dont have to ask me. Why not is. Because i have my own opinions. You can have your own opinions. But i want to know your opinions. Youre the president of the United States. Thats enough. Thank you. All right, lets begin with cnn senior washington correspondent joe johns at the white house. Joe. Reporter hi, poppy. Well, it certainly seems that the president is, while he didnt say it explicitly, sticking by his guns on that allegation of president obama wiretapping him. Fascinating because thats been one of the underlying threads through the first 100 days of this administration. Meanwhile, turning the corner just a bit, theres also another comment by the president that is really creating a buzz, and that is his assertion in an interview with cbs that preexisting conditions coverage stays in this latest Health Care Plan that is being discussed on capitol hill. Lets listen to what the president had to say and then come back and talk about it. Preexisting conditions are in the bill, and i mandate it. I said, it has to be. In one of the fixes it was discussed preexisting was optional for the states. Sure in one of the fixes, and theyre changing it and changing it so it would be permanent. Of course. Okay. Well, thats a development. The crucial question is its not going to be left up to the states. Everyone gets preexisting conditions, no matter where they live. No, but the states have something to do with it because ultimately we want to get it back down to that. The state is going to be in a much better position to take care because its smaller. So, im not hearing you say, mr. President , there is a guarantee for preexisting conditions. We actually have a clause that guarantees. Reporter so, this language on capitol hill to try to be a bit more precise basically allows states to opt out of standard premiums covering preexisting conditions. So, what that means is, if youre sick, if you got cancer and you had a lapse in coverage and you try to come back into the marketplace, Insurance Companies in certain states that have opted out might not allow you to have Affordable Health care coverage, something that you can, in fact, afford. So, the question remains there as to whether that is a guarantee for preexisting condition coverage. John and poppy, back to you. Its not a guarantee. Thats a fact. If you cant pay for it. Joe johns at the white house. Thank you. Also developing this morning, a rare moment of bipartisanship overnight. Democrats and republicans struck an agreement on a critical spending deal to avoid a government shutdown, for now. For now. It still needs to be approved by the house and senate and includes billions in defense spending. What it doesnt include is money for the president s border wall. Lets bring in cnn Congressional Correspondent Sunlen Serfaty on capitol hill. Democrats really claiming victory here, sunlen. Reporter they certainly are, john, because there are certainly a lot of concession these President Trump made on a lot of his key priorities that he wanted included in this bill, but it is significant and very notable, because it is the first bipartisan measure approved under the Trump Administration up here on capitol hill, and of course, most importantly, it keeps the government funded through september, avoiding a government shutdown. Lawmakers up here reached an agreement late sunday night. I want to show you whats in this bill. Again, it calls for an increase in defense spending by over 15 billion, 1. 5 billion for border security. Those were both items that the president wanted included in this. It increases spending for clean energy and science and 2 billion to boost nih, something that both democrats wanted included. And it gives 407 million in wildfire relief for states out west. Importantly not included, it leaves planned parenthood untouched, so it continues to Fund Planned Parenthood and gives absolutely no money for the border wall along the u. S. mexico border. And of course, you know this is something that was a big Campaign Promise of candidate trumps and President Trump continued to push for it. He wanted this initially included in this spending bill, something he had to back off of. So, that leaves that fight lingering, john and poppy, for another day. We expect both the house and senate to approve this measure this week. All right, a deal has been made. Sunlen serfaty on the hill, thank you so much. President trump referencing Andrew Jackson and seemingly suggesting that, well, just says flat out, why was there a civil war . Youre just going to have to listen to this. Had Andrew Jackson been a little bit later, you wouldnt have had the civil war. He was a very tough person, but he had a big heart, and he was really angry that he saw what was happening with regard to the civil war. He said, theres no reason for this. People dont realize, you know, the civil war, if you think about it, why . People dont ask that question, but why was there the civil war . Why could that one not have been worked out . Im not sure its totally true that people dont ask why was there a civil war. It may be one of the major questions asked in all of american history. Joining us now to discuss this is salena zito, who did that interview. Shes at the phone. Also doug heye, maria cardona, democratic strategist, lynn sweet, Washington Bureau chief for the chicagosun times. Salena zito, you were on the phone with us and you asked that question that got a remarkable answer. People dont ask the question, why was there a civil war. What did the president mean there, do you have any idea . Reporter well, i mean, i can only guess, as i think everybody understands in the way he talks is he bounces all over in a conversation. So, the conversation began before the tape started rolling, while we were talking about Andrew Jackson and his impact in american history. And then the interview started, and then he, you know, referenced back to him, and he was talking about, before the tape was rolling, he was talking about sort of, you know, he wished the civil war hadnt happened, dont we all, you know. It was a very trying time. And then we went back to this because he was looking at the portrait of jackson thats over his lefthand shoulder when hes sitting at the desk. Okay, doug heye, let me bring you in here. Aside from the timeline issue of Andrew Jackson in all of this, and aside from the very what seems to be a bit of a bizarre statement, why was there the civil war, whats your takeaway from salenas interpretation . Growing up in the south where i still have friends trying to win the war, still talk about it, it doesnt make sense. And i can tell you, as somebody, as a press secretary, where my job was to do cleanup on aisle five when politicians would say dumb or crazy things, this one makes no sense. There doesnt seem to be any reason behind it. Obviously, we can talk about history and Andrew Jackson and so forth, and i understand salenas point extremely well, but i dont understand why the president continues to go down either this rabbit hole or other rabbit holes that he goes down to. Focus on jobs. Americans are going to resonate with that issue so well. Going down these strange rabbit holes just doesnt make any sense. You know, as a point of history, when Andrew Jackson was president , and he died 16 years before the civil war i was going to say, the timeline here he dealt with the nullification crisis with south carolina. South carolina looked to supersede federal law there was the idea of secession, but he tamped it down, but it wasnt about slavery. And Andrew Jackson was of course a slaveholder. Maria cardona, is there much more to say about this . Do you want to get in before we move on . I mean, i just have one piece of advice for donald trump. Mr. Trump, crack a book. I mean, seriously. Theres no other piece of advice that anybody can give him. He is the president of the United States, and when he says ridiculous statements like this, it betrays his complete and total ignorance when it comes to history, but worse than that, john and poppy, i think it really signifies how uninterested and i think disdain that he has for people who really are not just historians, but experts in Public Policy and in politics and in everything that you need to know to actually learn to govern and be able to run a country. He needs to go back to the drawing board. Yes, i think its too late, which is why, you know, the majority of americans did not support him. We knew that he had this disdain for knowledge and lack of curiosity that makes him completely inept for this job. All right, lets talk about the now and what is going to affect millions of americans lives and livelihoods. Lynn sweet, on this gop house Health Care Plan, gary cohn, one of the top guys in the white wing white wing west wing comes out and says, we got the votes, im confident this is going to be a great week for us. But the president either doesnt understand what this bill does right now or hes being disingenuous in selling it by saying everyone with preexisting conditions is covered. Theyre only covered, lynn, if they can afford it. So, whats the president s play here . Well, a few things can be true at one time. The president can be disingenuous and not know the details of the bill, but one of the big this preexisting but members of Congress Know how explosive this particular issue is. Of the many complex things in health care, which President Trump newly discovered this is a complex topic one thing everyone understands, no matter your ideology, your race, gender, religious beliefs, is that preexisting conditions in your life, in the life of your loved ones is very big, and if you have coverage now that you are happy with, with the preexisting condition, you want to make sure that youre convinced that the legislative language, not the bluster, not the talk, that somebody reassures you that the language in insurance, no matter what company you may buy it from, guarantees you coverage at least as good, at least the same price you pay now. Right now, President Trump was unable to articulate that guarantee. Thats politically explosive because people dont need a lot of years of training to know, is what i may get better than i have today on this narrow issue of preexisting conditions. Thats why this is so explosive. Thats why it seems left to members of congress to give this reassurance, which i think for the moment i dont think they can do, because it doesnt seem to be what the language is headed towards right now. And by the way, leaving it up to states to figure out . That is something that will be a long time coming. I know, but there are republicans that do make the case that premiums for everyone else would go down. Of course. And there is reason they could and would. Its just that its not being sold that way. Yeah. And i think voters and members arent being as clear about the choice thats out there. Right. Doug heye, we heard from gary cohn saying were convinced weve got the votes. Should the white house be saying that on a monday when friday they clearly didnt . Yeah, i think its a big challenge not just for the white house but for Congressional Republicans. And john and poppy, as you know, i worked on obamacare replacement very unsuccessfully for a long time in the house of representatives, and right now, it is now or never. We can talk about the particulars of the bill, but if they dont pass any form of obamacare replacement this week, it will never happen, and that means when Congressional Republicans go home on the next recess, theyre going to have to answer their constituents, not just about obamacare replacement, but whether or not they can get anything done at all. Its that big of a deal right now. What they did get done, along with democrats, a little bit of kumbaya, i suppose, in a budget. I mean, they got a deal through, a sixmonth deal, but its something. Do you read this, though, maria, as a win for liberals . I mean, look at what is not in it, okay . There is no funding for a border wall. There is no cut to funding for sanctuary cities. There is no money for deportation force. They did get 1. 5 billion for border security. They did not cut planned parenthood spending. They increased spending for the National Institutes of health. Did you guys win on this one . Poppy, the American People won. I think middle class families won. I think the country won. Because at the end of the day what got passed is exactly what the majority of the American People support. They support more funding for clean energy. They want to protect our wildlife and our environment. The majority of the American People dont believe that a border wall is a savvy use of precious taxpayer money. The majority of the American People and millions of americans and women who go to planned parenthood as their only Health Care Resource dont want planned parenthood shut down. So, if i were a republican, i would breathe a sigh of relief today, because theyre not going to be blamed for shutting down the government, which they do most of the time the government is shut down they are blamed for that, and they are not going to be suffering and going back to their districts with protests about why they shut down planned parenthood, about why theres all this waste of money for a border wall that nobody wants. Now the only thing theyre going to have to face is why they are supporting a Health Care Bill that is less or that is less popular than the one that is currently up, obamacare, and obamacare, turns out, is probably twice as popular as the president of the United States and three times more popular than republicans in congress. You know, lynn sweet, final observation. The president cutting off the interview with John Dickerson when he kept asking him to explain what he meant when he called president obama bad and sick over wiretapping . I saw the visual. Its always jarring, but john did a very good and complete interview. What i liked about it is that it had many followups, including pressing President Trump on this very important provision, i think, of the Health Care Bill dealing with preexisting conditions. And the president exercised his right to end the interview when he didnt want to do it. You know, you often dont see how interviews end or when people want to waive you off one way or another, but i think otherwise in this John Dickerson of cbs did a very fine job in that interview, and he got a lot done. The president walked away, walked behind his desk when john kept on asking. Fascinating. He got a lot, john, before that moment happened, so i do applaud him on that. Doug, maria, salena zito still on the phone, thank you very much for bringing that fascinating comment about the president and the civil war. It was about slavey, if the president is curious. Thanks so much, guys. 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