duringal 2008 financial crisis and nearly 27 million already lost their jobs as a result of the strain of the coronavirus and the strain its placed on the national economy over the last five weeks. now as states across the nation push to reopen their economies to get people back to work, the governor of colorado is worried about a second wave. the united states approaches nearly 1 million cases. we have more on this. how surprising was it to hear a white house official paint such a grim picture of the economy in contrast with the treasury secretary? >> reporter: well, it was surprising, because what the president has been doing in his daily briefings is painting a very rosy picture, telling the american people the economy will experience what he likes to call a v-shaped recovery essentially suggesting reopening the economy will be as easy add shutting it down, and we already now looking at how the states are approaching reopening that that is not the case. most states are taking a phased approach, meaning that certain industries can open before others. so what kevin hassett, the official that you just played sound from, what he is saying is that there is more pain ahead, because he's looking at the second quarter growth estimates for the economy, and that time period starts in april, and that's when you're going to see the economic pain that americans are feeling right now. listen. >> i think the next couple of months will look terrible. you're going to see numbers as bad as anything we've ever seen. i think gdp growth in the second quarter is going to be negative, big number, wall street estimates are negative 20, negative 30% annual rate, because we've done something that's unprecedented. basically stopped everything. so output has gone to zero for huge swaths of the economy is. that unprecedented move gives a really, really big negative shock. the good news, all the policies adopted have hopefully built a bridge to the other side of that. >> reporter: now treasury secretary stephen mnuchin spun it very differently today and that is not entirely surprising, because he has been the face of these efforts to turn this around and really try and mitigate the pain of the economic fallout we're seeing. listen to his statement today. >> i think as we begin to reopen the economy in may and june, you are going to see the economy really bounce back in july, august, september. and we are putting an unprecedented amount of fiscal relief into the economy. seeing trillions of dollars making its way into the economy and i think it will have a significant impact. >> reporter: fredricka, you heard him right there. betting that all stimulus efforts that have gone into the economy, the $3 trillion that congress approved, will make an impact and mitigate the economic pain. but it's certain at this point the longer that the shutdowns go on, the harder it is to get that v-shape the president is hoping for heading into november. of course, it's going to impact his re-election, but the one thing trump is not going to be able to do is spin the economic story for the american people, because the american people are going to feel whether or not they've had the job security and the confidence to make the purchases. by the way, you know consumer purchases, the consumer, is the backbone of the u.s. economy right now. >> all right. christine alesci, thank you so much from new york. and today governor andrew cuomo announced his state is starting to make plans to reopen thanks in large part to lowering numbers of confirmed cases and hospitalizations the state is seeing. >> the descent continues, and that's a very good starting place. we are now back to where we were on march 31st, before we started this dramatic increase in the number of cases. we're still watching, big question is how fast does that number continue to come down. and more proof of that today. all patients onboard the usns comfort were discharged from the ship. cnn's evan mcmorris-santoro is there with "the comfort" docked in new york. how significant is it all have beendischarged? was the number ever very high? >> reporter: hi, fred. at the "unss comfort." fo fo forgive me for not hearing. but what i have, no patients here. stay here dock add fed a few mos as the crew cleaners it up and gets ready for its next occupation. never was up to the full capacity it had. moving on to the next thing. shifting to new york. a story where the new york pause began five weeks ago today. that's the -- that's the stay-at-home order put forward by governor cuomo. there's been a lot of controversy what would may mhap may 15th when it's supposed to come to an end. speculation mostly, but today governor cuomo mentioned in his press conference there actually might be light end of the tunnel when that may 15th date comes. >> the pause is state-wide until may 15th. right? then you have the cdc guide that says hospital, total hospitalization is declining for 14 days. okay? so we get to may 15th. what regions have seen a decline for 14 days? well, we're assuming we will have seen a decline in the state for 14 days, but what states -- what regions of the state declined for 14 days, that's where you will start the conversation to get to phase one. >> reporter: so it's important to note here that what we're talking about is not the reopening of the entire state at one time. most people who are home from work right now and home from school right now, will remain at home from work and school at may 15th but beginning a phased process potentially that could happen. the first phase, reopening of manufacturing businesses and construction businesses followed by other businesses that that have plans, that they can reopen. fred, still awaiting more news on that. looks like a possibility some opening could happen after may 15th. >> right. thank you, evan. based on a lot of conditions specialed out by the governor. evan mcmorris-santoro, thank you so much for that. one of the top medical experts on the president's task force tried to downplay the presidential controversial remarks about injecting disinfectants as a way to treat coronavirus. today d deborah birx dismissed the controversy as just a dialogue involving the president. >> that was a dialogue he was having between the dhs scientists and himself. for information that he had received and he was discussing. we had made it clear and when he turned to me i made it clear and he understood that it was not a treatment. i think that kind of dialogue will happen. lost in there, is very unfortunate i think, in what happened next is, that study was critically important for the american people. you say, why was that important? because we had an m.i.t. study just from a few weeks ago that suggests when people are talking and singing, air sal avied coul be transferred. i think i've answered the question, and i think the president made it clear physician hs to study this. i think i've made it clear this was a musing as you describes, but i want us to move on, to be able to get information to the american people that can help them protect each other and also help them understand how devastating this virus is to different age groups and different symptoms and different more dbiditie morbidities. >> did that make it every better? >> reporter: it confirms everything we've been hearing from aides and evenfrett w if the president wag he was supposed to be giving information to the american people. people who are scared, depressed, in their homes. they know they've lost their jobs. they're just trying to figure out what is going on. that leads to a larger question why exactly it was he got this information as we know about 15 minutes before the briefing. and then was pondering it onstage in front of cameras. we've heard from aides and allies this is a big reason why they have said either to president trump or behind closed doors they'd like him to stop having these briefings, or at least very, very carefully plan them. something that there is an optimistic approach, new, good numbers, something president trump comes out for, but otherwise, to leave it to the medical professionals. nobody in the white house or at least nobody that i've spoken to, wants to be talking about president trump's remarks. however it is important to note that president trump stood up there with medical experts and said in front of cameras to the american people watching, that it could happen, suggested there could be some sort of testing in which lysol, breach or disinfected was injected or ingested into your body and killed out coronavirus leading to several companies as well as health departments saying, don't do this. this is incredibly dangerous. although they'd like to change the tajopic, these are presiden trump himself said during a medical briefing. >> it even meant there were poison centers in several states starting to receive more phone calls from people inquiring about ingesting disinfectants. so also i understand you have new reporting on a possible shake-up at the white house with discussions under way for a plan to replace potentially the health and human services secretary alex azar? >> reporter: that's true. hearing from a senior administration who says there are talks among white house officials to replace azar. this, of course, comes after several different events. one, president trump making vice president pence as leader. two, azar having a bad relationship with seema, a member of the task force and very close ally of vice president pence. also comes after we really haven't seen azar in a public briefing in weeks. so i want to note those things first. that is the argument we're hearing from senior administration officials. on the other hand what we are hearing is that there is a blame game going on. coming out after weeks of negative criticism from americans, from state leaders, on the handling of this coronavirus, and i should note a senior administration official stressed this decision would come from president trump. >> thank you. larry hogan, governor, raising concerns about the president's comments an injects or ingesting disinfectants is in any way effective. >> hundreds of calls on our hot line people in maryland people asking about injecting or ingesting these disinfectants, which is hard to imagine that people thought that was serious, but people actually were thinking about this. was it something you could do to protect yourselves? >> dr. julio frank president of former minister of health for mexi mexico. good to see you. >> nice to see you as well. >> thank you. how is this misinformation about disinfectants, ingesting them, ho you has that become a distraction to people? >> well, you know, when i worked at the world health organization we used to say there are communicable diseases, like covid-19 and then communicated diseases. the spread of misinformation, rumors, et cetera, that very often accompany emergencies. that's why a key element more than any other element, testing, contact tracing is a coherent, clear, concise and credible communication strategy where you don't see contradiction between political figures and scientists, where people get clear, non-ambiguous information, and it is a very qualifier to maybe trying to deal with any emergency but particularly a pandemic like this one. >> and then there's the issue whether someone has immunity after they have contracted coronavirus, and the white house has taken one position. dr. deborah birx described her position, studies are ongoing. mowntime you heard the world health administration put out its warnings, no evidence there was immunity. what do you believe people should take from the issue of whether immunity, you know, can come from -- whether immunity is something that a victim of coronavirus can expect? >> you know, by definition anytime there's a new germ, like this coronavirus, we have unsinu uncertain uncertainty. because it's the first time that germ encountered humans. so we are learning as we go along. and a defining feature -- now, it's getting better and better because we're getting more and more information. that's one element that we're getting more information. at this point, we do know that you can measure antibodies to see if a person has been exposed to the virus. then the question is, does that provide protective immunity, which is a key element as we think about reopening the economy, because obviously if it provides protective immunity to themselves, meaning they can't get the disease, but also to others. meaning they cannot get others -- those people could be back in the workforce. at this point we're learning the more testing we can do the more rapidly we will learn. community-based large-scale sampling was done in new york that we're actually doing right now in miami with a team from the university of miami, is essential. that's exactly the sort of large-scale testing. this is a testing not to see if you have the disease but if you have the antibodies, because the more we can establish that that provides protective immunity, the quicker we can have all of those peoples rejoined into the labor force. >> sound like, dr. franks, you might be in agreement with what d birx said earlier on the issue. take a listen. >> the cdc is not only measuring antibodies but looking and seeing whether that antibody is neutralizing, a functional antibody in our functional assets. same time through the fda and working with hospitals they're collecting plasma and giving plasma and recovering antibodies, recovered people's antibodies back to sick people to see the impact it has. so all of that data together, i think, is going to create a very clear picture about antibody. i think what w.h.o. is sigh iay we don't know how long that effective antibody lasts. i think that's a question we have to explore over the next few months, and over the next few years. >> so are you in agreement with that? how do you understand that? >> yeah. exactly right. and the more we do, the more we will learn, and be able to solve this. meantime, your general doing of more testing is good, and we need tests that are approved, reliable. that is a key part of the strategy. >> and then you talked about the university of miami and its research teams studying the virus. how optimistic are you about the findings, the potential findings? >> i have no doubt that the way we're going to win this war is through the instruments of science, that comes from scientific research. and it's just a reminder how important it is to invest in science. its tests, its drugs and its eventually the have . we have teams working on the frontlines and how it is communicated effectively. an approach allowing us to arm the public health professionals with how to control this and future pandemics. there will be other pandemics. and what we've found frustrating over the years, a lot of paying attention, and then it wanes down soon as the emergency's over. i hope this is a wake-up call we need to sustain those investments, have the platforms tore testing of drugs and vaccines ready so as soon as there's a new pathogen that appears, and there be others in the future, you can immediately plot that particular jeangenome delve out the drugs. >> dr. frank from the university of miami a another great city i once lived. favorite place, lived right down the street from university of miami. thanks for being with me today. >> thank you, fredricka. coming up, some restaurants in georgia are reopening tomorrow. i'll talk live with one owner who says it is too soon, in their view, to in-person dining. and the beaches are back in business. and parks in california. but is everyone social distancing there? 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go to cnn's paul vercammen live in virtue ra county. look at the images, looks quite difficult encouraging people to have greater social distancing? >> reporter: one thing we're finding, though, fred, is a lot of people want the beaches to stay open. in ventura county, where we are now, and in orange county. so they're listening to the lifeguards and police officers. look behind me. they've laid out rules. throwing of frizzbee, inbounds. socially distant but you can't get a group of people, congregate, start a fire pit. that sort of thing. that is out of bounds. talking to someone off camera seconds ago who is from los angeles county, he went a few miles into this county. saw friends he had not seen in six weeks but they maintained their social distance. now, what's happened throughout southern california this weekend during this first test, weather test, after covid-19 breakout, you have different rules for different counties. just to the south of us, mere miles, l.a. county, you cannot be at the beach in any way, shape or form. law enforcement officers are all over this right now and not allowing it. what we're hearing from residents, they want clarification of the rules, because in orange county, show those pictures. new port beach, extremely accommodating saying people can go to the beach, just follow the social distancing guidelines. we saw and observed people were being extremely polite and courteous and lifeguards echoed that. an unfolding story here in california with the different counties trying to figure out what to do during a heat wave. as i said, we're seeing people behaving and adhering to the social distancing guidelines. back to you. >> wow. paul vercammen. contracting images whether the beaches are 20 minutes apart or hours' distance between them. thank you so much for that view. up next, businesses in georgia facing an ethical dilemma. following the governor's order to reopen, or err on the side of caution and risk losing more money? 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my restaurant/bar into a, what you are calling now hampton hudson general store. so to kind of -- bring it full circle, where we're at right now, you know, we definitely want to keep the momentum going. it is very extremely hard not to open, but right now, you know, we are definitely focusing on our customers, our employees, people in the community. you know, it's a little bit too soon, i think right now, but also for us to give back a little bit to the, you know, we're working with -- millbridge, which is -- they help with restaurants and -- people that are on the front lines. >> sure. okay's so, samuel, different clientele, different personnel concerns. my husband got a call from his barber, we're open. my husband, not yet. not ready for that yet. overall what are barbers and hair stylists telling you about how comfortable they are about reopening right now? >> the comfort level is not there for sure. we do have some barber shops that reopened. you know, on friday. but for the majority of us especially within our network, we've been communicating the last four, five weeks actually on protocol and, you know, just the different safety measures we would going to take, put into effect prior to the governor putting out his own proehl protocol and right now we're not safe. reality is, the items we need to open up our businesses to confidently serve clients, those items aren't accessible to us. >> right. that's what i mean when i say, different clientele, different personnel considerations, because now you're talking about, you know, the welfare of your personnel and customers, because you all are often well within six feet of one another. so there are also liability issues now. right? a lot of barber shop owners have to take into consideration meaning its costly. already lost a lot of money. how are they managing that? what are the liability responsibilities they're having to worry about, the equipment standpoint? >> right. i've been calling my insurance company for the last week trying to get them to give me an idea of the certain practices that we can doll and what we can't do. what's insured, what's not insured. to be honest, they don't really have answers. there are a lot of things that have been listed on the state website for us, things that aren't even accessible to us right now like disposable capes. there's no such thing as disposable capes. there are no disposable capes. just talk about bare necessities. paper towels. every average person that uses a trifold brown paper down in the bathroom, three paper towels per hand wash. seven barbers, averaging eight time as day, 70 washes. not including barbers. looking to that many paper towels used lin a day. >> costly. >> online, not allowing us to order bulk. i ordered paper towels on am zone a zo nmplt azo -- amazon and won't be here until the 11th. kudos to those who stocked up and prophetically got ahead of this six months ago. i don't know who that is. >> what are you going to do samuel? what are you and your colleagues going to do because you want to get back to your business whenever you feel safe to do so and you want your business to be viable, but, you know,'s listening to the calculus right there. it gets everyone deeper and deeper into the hole? >> the reality, before we opened up, got to make sure we have enough supplies stocked up. right now it's not about when, it's an how. the when has become irrelevant in georgia because our state is already opening back up, but how we open back up is what's important. the reality is, this is -- until we feel we have -- i can only speak for me. until i feel like i have at least three months' worth of supplies, it doesn't make sense for me to open up, because -- >> i'm sure. >> yeah. you want to be consistent with the protocol as well. if i run out of supplies, shut down again? some things just don't make sense right now. >> a real roller coaster. billy, you've been able to be adaptive, calling your place a general store now, too. but being adaptive, you know, means having money, having capital to do that. do you feel majority of your colleagues in the business, restaurant business, are able to do that? in order to stay afloat? >> i think we're going to -- well, we're going to see a lot, you know, with trying to reopen and what that means. of course, you know, capital is everything right now and a lot of us in this industry right now are struggling, because when this all kind of hit, you know, it was right around the time when the state and city taxes were due, rents were due. you know. so if you really look at it, it's going to be -- it's going to be a challenge to get back up and going, because you need the capital, and then obviously with some of the government funding, people are really relying on that, and it's been -- it's been hard to see and talk to, you know, some fellow restauranteurs and kind of see where they're at and honestly, we're all in the same, the same situation from large to small, and it's going to be tough, because, you know, we do have to have the capital to get open going. we have to bring back, slowly bring back employees to take money to do that as well and then the product that we've gone through for the past month that all of needs replenished as well. so it's really difficult. >> very tough choices. i'm wishing you both the best. billy strieck, samuel glickman, all the best as you try to, you know, balance the best decisions personally and professionally for you and everyone you're around. all the best to you. be well, be sage. >> thank you. >> thank you. all right. coming up next, signs of progress in the fight against coronavirus. new information on the outbreak in the united kingdom as british prime minister boris johnson heads back to work. and i don't count the wrinkles. but what i do count on is boost high protein. and now, introducing new boost women... with key nutrients to help support thyroid, bone, hair and skin health. all with great 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launch mobile coronavirus testing units for the country's frontline health care workers. from windsor, england, what do you know about how the mobile testing united nations will work? >> reporter: well, most of them are run by the military, as you say. going to be 100 of them around the country in hard-to-reach areas. pop-up centers set up in about 20 minutes. the reason they're doing this is they are struggling to get enough tests done in the country. doing about 30,000 a day but the target is 100,000. one of the issues there is that essential workers find they have to travel a very long distance to get to one of these testing centers. they're trying to bring the testing centers closer to the people. the essential workers. they're going to fire stations, for example, hospitals, police stations, and then take the swabs there, send them in to these mega labs which can turn around the tests more quickly. they're trying to aim at this 100,000 figure in terms of tests, fredricka. >> boris 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