Former republican governor and cnn political commentator john kasich of ohio says the president should be impeached. This comes as gop congressman Francis Rooney tells cnn he would not rule out voting to impeach the president. The fallout coming after acting white house chief of staff Mick Mulvaney admitted to a quid pro quo in the quickly expanding ukraine scandal. Then he tried to walk it back. The New York Times reports that Mitch Mcconnell believes an impeachment trial is, quote, inevitable. All of this as sources tell cnn that the president s personal attorney Rudy Giuliani asked the u. S. State department and the white house to grant a visa to a former ukrainian official to dig up dirt on democrats. Lets start with that storm swirling around Mick Mulvaneys stunning quid pro quo admission. The president s acting chief of staff is now planning to meet today with a group of republicans at camp david for damage control and strategy. Cnns Jeremy Diamond is at the white house for us. Jeremy, are we learning anything more about this meeting at camp david, who is there. Who is not and that will include the president. Well, were hearing right now, fredricka, is that Mick Mulvaney will be joined by a small group of Senate Republicans at camp david this weekend. Mick mulvaney has held these kind of impromptu retreats and this comes now as the president is facing more and more criticism from republicans. There is, of course, the question of the impeachment inquiry and congressman rooney now signaling his openness to potentially impeaching the president. The president is also facing criticism on policy fronts. Particularly as it has to do with the situation in syria and his rapid withdrawal of American Forces from that country. But it also comes, fred, as Mick Mulvaney is facing criticism of his own for comments that he made a couple days ago when, as you said, he admitted to that quid pro quo involving security aid to ukraine and then, of course, he quickly walked it back. Lets listen first to the comments from Mick Mulvaney a couple days ago. Did he also mention to me in past the corruption that related to the dnc server, absolutely. No question about that. Thats why we held up the money. Quid pro quo. It is funding will not flow unless the investigation into the democratic server happened, as well. We do that all the time with Foreign Policy. I have news for everybody, get over it. Theres going to be political influence in Foreign Policy. Now, fredricka, shortly after that news conference, Mick Mulvaney completely walked that back saying no quid pro quo, despite you can see there on camera him admitting that there was one and pressed, in fact, on that very word. Quid pro quo. That being said, fredricka. The Trump Campaign is not stepping back and not walking away from Mick Mulvaneys comments. In fact, turning it into campaign merchandise. Now a get over it tshirt on the Trump Campaign website. Okay. Jeremy diamond trying to cash in on that, not you, but them. Thank you so much. All right. Lets talk further about where all this is going. David sangar National Security correspondent for New York Times and cnn political and National Security analyst also joining me ross garber who teaches impeachment law at Tulane University and a cnn legal analyst. Good to see you both. So, russ, let me begin with you. Mick mulvaney trying to walk this back. This stunning, you know, quid pro quo admission and the white house and the Reelection Campaign saying, get over it. Lets cash in on this and not take it too seriously. But then in the big scheme of things, how potentially damaging is this particularly with this impeachment inquiry ongoing . So, fred, it sounds like youre not over it. We havent gotten over it. I dont think were going to sort of get over it any time soon. Heres the thing for me. I think there are ways to explain sort of, even if there were quid pro quo, it was motivated by public policy. Look, you know ive spent months before trying to explain why i thought the Mueller Investigation actually wouldnt damage the president too much. This, i think, actually is a much more concern to the president and his administration. The big issue, i think, with that mulvaney press conference was that he didnt seem prepared for it. It seems like the white house actually just doesnt have a system in place to deal with these issues. And theyre serious. You know, youve got the president s lawyer, his personal lawyer under federal investigation for issues related to his interactions with the president and other state agencies. This is serious stuff and for the chief of staff to the white house to get up at the podium and sort of free style it on these issues and kind of admit to a quid pro quo and then walk it back just shows a lack of preparation and that theyre not actually taking it seriously. And the white house they shouldnt get over it. At the core were talking about requesting, asking, you know, a foreign country currying favor and influence democracy, u. S. Elections. I mean, none of that can be just kind of glossed over. That really is at the core. One would think that the chief of staff and the rest of the white house has been talking about the optics of how it looked. The realities of and the many admissions. I mean from the president admitting to it, the personal attorney admitting to it and now the chief of staff admitting to it. So, it kind of says, david, that perhaps the white house doesnt think its a really big deal and is hoping that the majority of the public will think its not a really big deal either. Thats exactly right, fredricka. I think that one reason that they may think that is its a little bit complex. It requires parsing a few things in Mick Mulvaneys statement. Two things jumped out at me in that statement. The first is he said the aid was held up as they try to figure out the ukrainian involvement in where the servers were for the dnc. Well, for them to believe this somewhat crazy theory that the ukrainians have the dnc server, they have to overlook the Trump Administrations own indictment of a number of gru, russian Intelligence Officers in the summer of 2018, not an obama era indictment, a Trump Administration indictment and the indictment lays out in great detail how they got into the dnc servers. So, either the theory is right and the indictment is false or the indictment is right and the theory is long ago discredited as the president s own former Homeland Security adviser at the time said just a few weeks ago. The second thing id look for in the mulvaney statement, he said, look, politics often guides Foreign Policy decisions. And they do. Of course. Administration changes and Foreign Policy can change. But those are the politics of national interest. And whats coming out here is the question of whether or not its the politics of personal reelection chances. And that is very different. That gets at that difference that ross was referring to about why people arent getting over it. And potentially undermining National Security. I mean, there is that. So, ross, youve got the impeachment inquiry that is, you know, heating up or intensifying. There is still the whistleblower complaint. And there are some experts who are saying, you dont even need the testimony of the whistleblower because so much information is coming whether it be from diplomats or others. What is potentially next when youve got the Senate Majority leader who is now saying out loud that an impeachment trial is inevitable . Yeah. So, what id be looking for over the next few weeks is, first of all, does the house actually hold public hearings with testimony about these issues . You know, so far the testimony has, you know, been held behind closed doors. Its something that House Republicans have been very critical of. Is there going to be public testimony because without public testimony, i think davids right, this stuff is very complicated and unlikely that sort of middle of the road voters are going to be swayed. And, therefore, kind of middle of the road republicans wont be swayed and even some of vulnerable democrats may have trouble voting for impeachment. So, i think that is one place to look. A second place to look is what else comes out . You know, i think a lot of us were quite surprised by the indictment of Rudy Giulianis colleagues. What else comes out . Is there Financial Information that comes out as a result of these lawsuits against, you know, trumprelated entities. You know, is there other information that comes out . I think that is the next thing to look for over the next week or two. Quickly, david, do you think much more is needed to tip the scale of whether the momentum goes on impeachment proceedings . It may not be needed to tip the scale on impeachment, but it would certainly be needed to tip the scale if this got to trial in the senate. Look, the 20 republicans would have to vote to convict for the president to be convicted and removed from office. I dont count more than two or three possible conviction votes in the senate right now. So, theyre a long, long way away and you probably have to learn a fair bit more before you saw the republicans in the senate start to crack on that. Thank you, both, so much. You bet. Still ahead, Bernie Sanders back on the campaign trail and hes gaining new support just days after suffering a heart attack. Plus, an already tense situation boiling over in syria. U. S. Officials now saying a ceasefire between the kurds and turkey is not holding. More on that, coming up. I get it all the time. Have you lost weight . Of course i have ever since i started renting from national. Because national lets me lose the wait at the counter. And choose any car in the aisle. And i dont wait when i return, thanks to drop go. At national, i can lose the wait. And keep it off. Looking good, patrick. I know. vo go national. Go like a pro. Anna, do you yes those plans . I just wanted to show you something ive been wor. James r. And associates. Anna speaking. James r. And associates. Anna. 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Todays event comes with a major announcement. New york congresswoman alexandria ocasia cortez. Ryan nobles is joining me right now from that event. So, ryan, it seems like its the warm up that is under way getting ready for Bernie Sanders arrival. What is happening . Thats right. Pretty big crowd. Pretty big park just outside of manhattan over the river in queens here and it is packed. It is at capacity and still people waiting to get in and we expect senator sanders and representative ocasiocortez to speak at any minute. A lot of energy and enthusiasm here and the theme youre starting to see with the opening speakers that are coming out before senator sanders is its time to move on from his Health Issues. He had the heart attack about two and a half weeks ago. He is feeling better and ready to move on. Michael moore one of the warmup speakers here today and he said the only heart attack people should be talking about right now is the heart attack that wall street bankers will have if Bernie Sanders becomes president. Theyre sending a message today that sanders is up for the challenge and ready to get back on the campaign trail in full fashion and hes going to do so now with the support of alexandria ocasiocortez. A rising progressive star. Someone who has huge support here in new york and also huge support across the country. She is going to help sanders solidify that wing of the Democratic Party and bring in Younger Voters and voters of color that are going to be very important in this democratic primary. So, we expect to hear from ocasiocortez in the next few minutes and then well hear from sanders himself. His first big rally and his first big speech since that heart attack. The message is that hes in it for the long haul and he believes he can win the democratic nomination. Well check back with you. Ryan nobles, thanks so much. Lets talk further on all of this now. Let me bring in Nathan Gonzalez publisher at inside elections. Welcome back. Bernie sanders, mostly sidelined since that heart attack, even though he did come out in the video with his wife saying, you know, im ready to get back to business. But how important is this rally . Of this magnitude, particularly, for him to kind of reassure his supporters that he is still, you know, in it and hes got the vigor to go all the way. Well, im not sure if this rally will put to bed the Health Issues or health questions. But he is about to land one of the most coveted endorsements in this entire democratic race. As ryan talked about, congresswoman ocasiocortez one of the rising stars in the Democratic Party. She gets a ton of attention for being in office for a year and she, this is an endorsement. I think many of sanders competitors in the race would have loved to have had and he is about to land it. I think its remarkable that out of all the candidates in the race, she has chosen to endorse the 78yearold white guy in the race who is not even a democrat. I mean, hes an independent running as a democrat for the independent nomination. And i think it says something about the direction of the party or part of the direction of the party that shes trying to lead that she would go with someone who is an independent senator from vermont rather than a democratic, you know, someone who has been in the Democratic Party for years. Says as much about him as it does about her. Why do you suppose she, you know, is throwing her support behind him and not say, you know, Elizabeth Warren . I think she believes in the policies that hes giving voice to, not only in this campaign but what hes giving voice to for years. I think that is more important to her rather than the vehicle or the messenger. But im also, im skeptical that this will be a boost for sanders campaign. I know that shes a popular figure, but im wondering how many people are looking to her who have been waiting on the sidelines waiting for her to tell them who they should support. And i think increasingly endorsements can lead to positive media coverage. But i dont expect it to fundamentally change this race. In part because Bernie Sanders, remember in 2016, he had the advantage of being a oneonone matchup against senator clinton. Now there are five or six candidates in the democratic race that have the same message, but might be a better messenger. Someone such as senator warren. Nathan gonzalez, well leave it there for now. Thank you so much. Thank you. All right. Still ahead. Breaking news out of syria. A negotiated ceasefire is not holding between turkey and kurdish forces. Details, next. Text and data is just 30 bucks a line for 4 lines. And now you can get it on our newest, most powerful signal. No signal reaches farther or is more reliable. 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