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>> here's what i know. i know trump deserves to be investigated. he is violating every basic norm of a president. you should be asking him the question, why is he on the phone with a foreign leader trying to intimidate a foreign leader if that's what happened? you should be looking at trump. trump is doing this because he knows i'll beat him like a drum and he is using the abuse of power and every element of the presidency to try to do something to smear me. everybody looked at this. and everybody said there is nothing there. >> this centers on a conversation president trump had at the end of july with the ukrainian president which prompted a whistle blower complaint to the intelligence community inspector general a source telling cnn during the call trump pressed ukraine's president to investigate joe biden's son hunter who once worked for a ukrainian energy company. it's important to note there is no evidence of wrongdoing by either joe or hunter biden. in a tweet today the president insisted, quote, nothing was said that was in any way wrong in his conversation with the ukrainian leader. we're covering these developments at the what house b -- the white house but we'll begin in iowa. what else did biden have to say? he was fired up. >> reporter: he was very fired up, martin, and had a lot to say to the press. we talked to him yesterday and he was very short with his answer but today he came ready to talk to the media and as you see really point all the attention back on president trump and his allies. it is interesting if you go to a fundraiser he had in south carolina back in may he told the group there, i know they're going to go after me and my family. he foreshadowed this months ago. he's talked about how this weighed heavily on him when deciding whether he should run about the personal attacks he anticipated from president trump. here's what he had to say to that. >> i know what i'm up against. a serial abuser. that's what this guy is. he abuses power everywhere he can and if he sees any threat to his staying in power he'll do whatever he has to do. but this crosses the line. this crosses the line. >> reporter: so vice president biden will be taking the stage along with many other presidential candidates here in iowa. we'll see if he talks more about this. martin, certainly this is the story that is driving the day here and we expect to hear much more about it. the vice president just starting to talk about this. martin? >> jessica dean in iowa, thank you very much for that. let's bring in jeremy diamond at the white house. what is the president saying or maybe i should say tweeting about all of this? >> reporter: well, martin, what we're seeing is the president once again turning this into a new political attack line once again painting himself the target of partsans, of democrats, who are trying to undermine his presidency just as he did of course with the investigation led by special counsel robert mueller. just as he called that investigation the russia witch hunt he is now referring to this whistle blower complaint and everything that has stemmed from that as the ukraine witch hunt. at the same time, the president is not disclosing much about his conversation with the ukrainian president. he has so far declined to say whether or not he did indeed as reporting indicates bring up joe biden in his conversation with the ukrainian president this past summer. he is referring to the whistle blower now as a partisan, as a political hack job. even though he says that he does not know the identity of this whistle blower. but, martin, all of this is surely not going away. congress is continuing to demand transcripts of this call as you just saw the former vice president joe biden also doing so. and this coming week the president will be bringing this story back to the foreonce again as he sits on the sidelines of the united nations general assembly with the ukrainian president. >> no doubt the story is not going away. jeremy diamond, jessica dean, thank you both very much. now to talk about this further let's bring in a former director of global engagement at the white house under president obama. good to see you. >> good to be with you. >> so cnn is reporting trump asked the ukrainian president to look into the bidens and their connections to the ukrainian prime minister. do you take this as kind of a normal line of questioning? >> it is absolutely not normal. i would say it is bordering on ethical if not illegal, and what was surprising to me and we've become accustomed in the last two and a half years to cringe worthy moments, moments of perhaps national embarrassment or the erosion of american credibility, but this goes farther. this is about more than donald trump's ego. it is an egregious violation of the rules of diplomacy, how heads of state interact with one another. the fact that he brought this personal political issue up eight times, allegedly, with the ukrainian president, would cross several lines. >> and, you know, as you've already heard joe biden is calling for a full investigation into the president's call. based on what you know and what you've seen, what is the proper way to sort of respond to what the president appears to have done here? >> well, let me first say how unusual it would be for a member of the intelligence community or the national security staff to file a whistle blower complaint. those are jobs of incredible trust. you know you won't be allowed back into the oval office or into those meetings if you take that action so you have to believe this is really meriting that sort of step. clearly, this individual felt that it was and they needed to sound the alarm bell. i also would just add that i have spoken to a number of friends who have served in the trump administration's national security council. they have become alarmed by how the president treats these conversations with heads of state as, you know, times to address his personal insecurities, not the nation's security. >> so, again, how do you think the followup should be? impeachment, prosecution? how do you move forward on the president? >> first and foremost, the white house needs to release the transcript. they need to release it to congress. if there is classified information in it, it should be redacted. but we need to know what was said. we need to know if there are other instances in which the president has pressured foreign leaders inappropriately or illegally. these conversations directly impact the national security of the united states. they are to be overseen by the congress and the congress has the right to that information. >> and as jeremy diamond alluded to, president trump is expected to meet the ukrainian president next week i think wednesday during the general assembly. what do you expect to come of that and what are the optics of it? >> well, we've clearly seen trump's difficult relationship, both with ukraine and with russia. the u.s. had put aid to ukraine on hold for a period of time. i think they've got to work past what has been a handicap for this administration when it comes to a strong line on russian intervention in ukraine. let's remember that russian troops still occupy parts of the area in eastern ukraine. that's top of mind for the ukrainians. >> of course. good points for the public to understand. thanks very much. good to have you on the show. >> thank you. president trump is again insisting today reporters should dig into a conspiracy theory involving biden, ukraine, and a ukrainian prosecutor. joining me now cnn reporter daniel dale. trump is pointing a finger back at biden. let's dig into these unproven claims that the president is making about biden. what's the story and the facts as we know them? >> reporter: sure. what we know for sure is that in 2016 joe biden then the vice president pushed ukrainian leaders to get rid of a senior prosecutor who was widely seen as ineffective in fighting corruption. it's important to know this was not a personal joe biden crusade but the position of the united states government, the international monetary fund, other u.s. allies. all agreed this prosecutor needed to go. the ukrainians eventually agreed after biden threatened them to withhold a billion dollars in u.s. loan guarantees and the department overwhelmingly vote today get rid of the prosecutor. the reason there are some questions about this is at the same time biden was making this push to oust the prosecutor his son hunter biden was sitting on the board of directors of the ukrainian natural gas company owned by someone who is theoretically under investigation by the prosecutor. i say theoretically because that is important. we don't know to what extent even the company was under investigation. bloomberg has reported it was told the investigation was dormant at the time biden made this push. regardless trump insinuated hunter biden himself, the vice president's son, was personally under investigation and we have no evidence for that in particular. >> so what has biden said about his involvement in ukraine? does the story check out? >> reporter: well, biden has boasted about his effort to oust the prosecutor. he's openly told the story as an example of his efforts to fight corruption in ukraine. everything he said about it is true as far as we know. now, the way he's told the story he hasn't even hinted at the possibility there might be some wrongdoing. this allegation has come from conservatives, from the trump side, after they began making an allegation and biden reacted angrily. he said everyone who has looked into this found no evidence there was anything improper whatsoever. >> what are the ukrainians saying about all of this? they are obviously caught in a very awkward spot. >> yeah, well, they haven't said very much. there have been reports that the successor to this prosecutor has made clear that hunter biden has not himself been under investigation and that there is no evidence of wrongdoing by either biden but they're caught between a rock and a hard place. they don't want to anger a potential president in biden. they also don't want to anger the current president in trump. they haven't said very much at all. >> right. of course this is going to be that meeting we anticipate between both presidents in new york this week. daniel dale, thank you very much for sort of clearing things up for us. still to come, the 2020 democrats. they're going all in, in iowa. and one is making an urgent plea for support. ♪ spending time together, sometimes means doing nothing at all. holiday inn. we're there. so you can be too. t-mobile's newest signal reaches farther than ever before. with more engineers. more towers. more coverage! it's a network that gives you ♪freedom from big cities, to small towns, we're with you. because life can take you almost anywhere, t-mobile is with you. no signal goes farther or is more reliable in keeping you connected. stimulant laxatives forcefully stimulate i switched to miralax for my constipation. the nerves in your colon. miralax works with the water in your body to unblock your system naturally. and it doesn't cause bloating, cramping, gas, or sudden urgency. miralax. look for the pink cap. doprevagen is the number oneild mempharmacist-recommendeding? 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like, hey, help me out we'll begin the road to victory, or does it look like he is desperate and really in trouble? >> i think it's both. it is a plea for help and, you know, he is clearly feeling a sense of desperation right now. look, this is a crowded field. 17 candidates. only so many donors to go around. he is clearly struggling. he has not had a big stand out moment. he isn't doing too well in the polls even in his home state of new jersey he is actually fourth coming in at something like 9% for democratic primary voters in recent polling. he is struggling right now. i think the campaign's thought right now is if they're going to put out this cry for help and can't raise this amount of money which by the way is not a lot, $2 million is not a lot in the scheme of things when it comes to campaign donations but if they can't do this maybe it's time he looks at doing something else and puts this up for now. >> well, let me move on. daniel, let me ask you this real quick. a short time ago joe biden, iowa calling for so much news, he called for an investigation into the president over the abuse of power with that call with the ukrainian president. that fiery reaction -- of course he knew the question was coming but he was locked and loaded and ready to respond. >> look, for biden this is something that the biden campaign really wants to do. they want to focus their energy on attacking trump. he is the front-runner so he doesn't gain much by attacking his opponents in the primary but he does build up the contrast that focus on trump that the campaign wants voters to see. they want to see him versus trump all the time. this is really just the latest example of that. >> but rachael, at the same time when joe biden talks about this, isn't there a part of some constituency somewhere that goes, oh, yeah. what about that whole conspiracy? or what about the whole allegations that have been made against biden's son or against biden, himself? and they begin to look into that. can it be harmful for him? >> yeah, i mean, clearly this is not something he wants to be talking about. i don't think this is going to hurt him with democratic voters but what it can do is if he is the nominee and running against trump what this whole narrative does is gives republicans a chance to try to dilute the narrative democrats are using against the president which is that he is corrupt and should be ousted from office, that we can't have him for another four years in the white house. if you look at them side by side i think a lot of people would say you're comparing apples and oranges. we're not even talking about biden but his son being on a board that was in potential trouble in the ukraine and the whole thing was dismissed. then you look at the president, who obviously the former fbi director, robert mueller, who became the special counsel identified ten areas of potential obstruction of justice. that he may have committed. you have federal prosecutors who said that the president was all but a coconspirator in a campaign finance violation that sent his lawyer to jail for three years so, i mean, you know, democrats would say you can't even compare these two but republicans, we have seen over and over again, are really good about communicating a potential controversy and really blowing it up. i saw them do that when obama was in the white house. they are very effective at it. this could hurt him in a general. >> daniel, i'm coming to you in a minute but one more before i move on. the economy has been the president's bread and butter issue but there's been some volatility in the stock market and some other areas where there are concerns financially. i'm wondering going into 2020 if you're the president staking everything on your re-election do you pin it on the economy? do you try the second amendment? do you go about blaming democrats who have gone far to the left? what is the strategy that wins here? >> yeah. i mean, clearly republicans would want the president to talk about the economy. they begged him to do so in 2018 before the midterm elections. we've seen the president time and time again. it is really hard for him to focus just on the economy. he wants to talk about controversial immigration issues -- >> what if there is something that takes a really nasty turn. what is plan b? >> it is a good question because it is the bright spot for the president right now. it's interesting because he is trying to fulfill promises when it comes to trade and play tough on china, you know, renegotiate a whole bunch of trade deals. that actually could undercut that bright spot that he has in the economy. so he's really going to have to potentially pick which one he wants with his whole re-election campaign. >> daniel, senator elizabeth warren has been rising in the polls. she's also starting to take hits from fellow candidates. i'm wondering, do you think those attacks can make warren alter her own strategy? >> we haven't seen that so far. frankly, warren has kept a pretty consistent approach to this campaign. it's been a steady as you go campaign of not apologizing, not backing away from being a liberal candidate, supporting things like medicare for all, and really eschewing the more moderate calls in the democratic party. at the same time though it is inevitable that she would start to face attacks from her fellow democrats in this primary. vice president biden has consistently led polling. and warren has sort of maintained a second place position. but it's a little unclear if that, how strong and how firm that perch is in the primary. frankly, she seems a little more vulnerable than biden at this moment. >> real quick, does that hurt the overall democratic party when you got the candidates sort of taking shots at one another? >> i mean, there are consultants who will always say that there should be more attention paid to the general election opponent but it is so early right now, i'm really not convinced any fighting so far especially in this primary, which has been pretty mild, is going to leave a lasting impression into the general election. >> all right. i hear you. daniel straws and rachael bade, good to see you both. still to come as the u.s. prepares to send troops to saudi arabia cnn visits the oil facility that was targeted in the air strike. kim is now demonstrating her congestion. save it slimeball. i've upgraded to mucinex. we still have 12 hours to australia. mucinex lasts 12 hours, so i'm good. now move- kim nooooooo! only mucinex has a patented tablet that lasts 3x longer, for 12 hours. big dreams start with small steps... ...but dedication can get you there. easily set, track and control your goals right from the chase mobile® app. chase. make more of what's yours®. my hands are everything to me. but i was diagnosed with dupuytren's contracture. and it got to the point where things i took for granted got tougher to do. thought surgery was my only option. turns out i was wrong. so when a hand specialist told me about nonsurgical treatments, it was a total game changer. like you, my hands have a lot more to do. learn more at factsonhand.com today. juul record. like you, my hands have a lot more to do. they took $12.8 billion from big tobacco. juul marketed mango, mint, and menthol flavors, addicting kids to nicotine. five million kids now using e-cigarettes. the fda said juul ignored the law with misleading health claims. now juul is pushing prop c, to overturn san francisco's e-cigarette protections. say no to juul, no to big tobacco, no to prop c. a book that you're ready to share with the world? 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why do you think it matters you stay in this race? >> first and foremost we have run a race to win. i'm not in this for some endeavor of ego. we have said from the beginning we're in this race if we can win it and right now we're here in iowa with a number one endorsed campaign by state legislators and elected officials. we are building a campaign to win but we are now into the fourth quarter of the year and if we can't continue our growth we won't have a campaign to win. i don't think people can stay in this race if they can't win. i am in the race to win the nomination and beat donald trump. this is a decisive moment for our campaign. if you believe in my voice and want it on the stage and part of this process, if you believe in me as the nominee this is the time. if we can't raise this $1.7 million we'll have to make the tough decisions i think any campaign that doesn't have a pathway to victory should make. >> reporter: are you prepared to drop out if you can't get there? >> i believe people will respond. i believe, look, we are here right now. we've been in this race. in fact, if you take a step back the four top fundraisers in this campaign, we're running a better campaign with dollars because we're competing with them right now with fractions of the resources they have. so i want to stay in this race and if people believe that please don't look at this as a point to say good-bye to cory. please keep me in the race go to corybooker.com to help us. >> reporter: there are a lot of fundraisers people get or words from candidates, if i don't make "x" money i'm out or it is a dire situation and it is these very stark terms. but you said this is real. this is not some plea for money. you said no courage without vulnerability. you are trying to give people a look inside your campaign. this is an actual dire situation for your campaign. >> we decided when we look at numbers over the week that we cannot continue a winning campaign into the fourth quarter where you need to hire up or do ads. there are so many things you have to do to win. so far we positioned ourselves to win this election. right now on so many metrics on the ground we're running a great election to win but we can't continue this without more support. i won't continue unless i can look people in the eye and say we have a chance to win it. if you believe in me this is the time to help. without it we shouldn't be in this race. >> reporter: you've struggled to get out of single digits. obviously you need more funding. why don't you think you are connecting? what is hoilding you back? >> that is the irony is we are connecting. if we look at measures like local support we know from iowa to new hampshire we are leading all the candidates in this field in endorsements from state senators, mayors, people who know politics and this state where we're standing right now more of them have chosen my campaign than others. but the problem we're facing right now is to continue to do what john kerry did who was polling at 4% in iowa. barack obama was 20 points behind hillary clinton and won iowa. we know the plan and the play. you have to have organizers on the ground. if we're going to do that we need help now. if not we shouldn't continue. so please. this is the moment to make a decision on our campaign. do you want me in this race or not? >> reporter: very quickly, president trump and his allies attacking vice president biden. what do you make of what is going on with that? >> this isn't a partisan attack. the allegations we're hearing right now that the president of the united states, with a nation that is under physical attack, the russians invaded ukraine. they annexed the crimea, and people are dying. this president was trying to negotiate aid contingent upon whether or not they investigate a political official? this is a level of misconduct i've not seen in my lifetime. this is something that should have -- i don't think donald trump could have shocked me any more. i've seen so much. this is shocking if it's true. this is a moment about patriotism not about party. i'm sorry. this is unacceptable if it is is true. what we need now is a transcript of that call, all of it that doesn't jeopardize national security, and we need the inspector general to come forward and share with us what the whistle blower has said. >> thanks so much. you have to speak in a few minutes. thanks so much for joining us. martin, back to you. >> jessica dean, thank you very much. we will be right back. it's not just easy. it's having-jerome-bettis- on-your-flag-football-team easy. go get 'em, bus! ohhhh! 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>> it's been really hectic. i mean, to go from a complete joke to almost $900,000 right now, it's crazy. >> did you have any inkling or idea what you were going to trigger by simply holding up a sign like that which i presume was just for fun? >> no, i didn't think i'd get on tv at all. i thought best case scenario out of this would be someone in the crowd behind me would see the sign and shoot me 20 bucks for a case of busch light. so it's been overwhelming. >> and when did you begin to realize just what you had started? >> i first noticed that i was getting donations around $400. at about 600 i was like, you know, there is probably something a little better than beer money i could be doing right now so i called my family and let them know what was going on, my intentions, which were to, aside from enough to cover the cost of one case of busch light i'd donate everything to the university of iowa's stead family children's hospital. >> and that raises the question because you're an iowa state fan but decided to give this money to your rival school's hospital? is that right? >> yeah, absolutely. >> why? what was up with that? >> stead, they do so much work for all the kids around the country. they're huge in iowa. i'm sure you guys have probably heard of the wave because the stead hospital overlooks the stadium there. you know, they just do so much to keep those families and kids happy. it's just anything i can do to help. you know? >> so the moment you realized, boy, this is not about drinking beer. this is about i got to make a donation. what was the financial number you were at? >> d$600. >> that was okay. it's now beyond beer. busch has agreed to send you what, a year's worth of busch light with your face on the can? >> yeah. yeah. >> what do you think about that? >> i love it. i actually have the one they sent me in here in the studio. it's crazy. i was thrilled when they said that to me. they told me, hey, check your twitter. and i did. and i lost it. it was crazy. >> what originally -- how much money did you think you'd get? >> i didn't think i'd get anything to be completely honest. >> well, you've done fabulous for not wanting anything to now getting almost over $900,000. veinmo and busch have agreed to match the money. how is the beer request coming? >> good, good. i mean, i've had tons of people look forg looking for these so we'll see what i can do to help anybody out that i can. it's something else, man. >> quite a collector's item and there, too, could be another revenue stream. either for you or for other worthy causes. carson king, it is just so good to enjoy this story because a simple sign and yet you'll make a world of difference to a lot of families. that's wonderful. not just you of course. all those who gave and participate. >> absolutely. >> great talking with you. thanks very much and, cheers. >> hey, thank you. >> all right. and one more good thing before we go. today the world is celebrating 80 years of the dark knight. cities worldwide are beaming up the infamous bat signal in honor of d.c.'s iconic masked super hero, talking batman. in rome fans dressed up as their favorite batman characters. check out the massive bat signal on the side of a building in berlin. other places participating include tokyo, paris, and of course gotham headquarters, new york city. d.c. comics and cnn are both part of the warner media family. i'm martin savidge. the news continues right after this short break. how we doing? 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