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time mentor that was standing with me in the lobby did not survive. she was shot point black. it's unfathomable why this beautiful wonderful human being would be shot down, her mother just recently died and she came to services to be able to memorialize her mother. and her daughter drove down from ucla. her only daughter hannah came down to be able too be with her mother, and she was there to witness and to be there as her mother is laying on the floor dying. it was just unfathom abable act terror, this has to stop. >> that's just one account of the stories. lori jumped tw eed between the and the shooter. that man who will be arraigned on wednesday, investigators are looking into a note he purportedly left online during the shooting. claiming responsibility for setting a nearby mosque on fire last month. cnn's sara sidner joins us from poway. all victims have been discharged from the hospital. what else can you tell us, sara? >> everyone has been discharged from the hospital, of course, we're talking about three people who were injured, including an 8-year-old girl and a rabbi. we talked to the family of that 8-year-old girl who were inside of the synagogue when the shooting began. the father, israel dehan said he saw the gun, he heard the shots, he thought it was a car accident it was so loud, so strong. he thought it may be a car accident outside, and realized it was bullets flying, it was a gun going off again and again and again. he flipped over a table as he was sitting there, in the synagogue where people were praying. and then he began to run. he said that the shooter came in and was literally covered with magazines all over his body that he had -- all the bullets, just all over his body. he came there clearly to kill everyone and to destroy the synagogue. the father says as he's leaving he realizes that one of his children is missing, he's not sure where his child is. and then come to find out, another of his children had been hit by shrapnel. she was bleeding on her face, she was bleeding on her leg. she felt relief seeing her, he knew at least she was alive and she was going to be okay. what he didn't know was what had happened to his other daughter who had separated because she had put herself -- she had gone to the bathroom, right near where the shooter was standing. he was terrified she would not survive. then he went over, he saw she was okay. someone brought her to him. as all this was going on, he noticed the rabbi was there, his hands were bleeding profusely, he was trying to wrap the rabbi's hands to help save him. the rabbi was refusing to leave. he wanted to stay there and pray again and again and again for those at the synagogue celebrating the last day of passover. >> first i heard the big shot like would really echo shot. i was thinking in the beginning something crashed. i said maybe an accident outside in the road, or something like that, and then i heard the second shot. on the second shot i turn my hid to the door, and i saw him coming with a big gun like -- i'm guessing it was m-15 or m-14 or m-16. >> semiautomatic. i start seeing him shooting. and after 2, 3 seconds, i saw him running in with his fingers cutting and bleeding all over. and then i is a him shooting, our lady that passed away. >> it's scary we need to live like this it's just unbelievable. >> the woman he speaks of, he did not want to say her name, he wanted to make sure her family knew what happened to her. she was family to them. she was always giving you help, even when he said, you didn't necessarily need it, she would come and offer help and hugs and smiles to those around her. he said, look, i don't know how to tell you how this all feels going through something like this. what i can tell you is that this is not the first time he's been faced with anti-semitism. he moved here to poway because he was targeted in his other california community, and in that community his family suffered having swastikas written on his garage, written on their cars and they came here to be in a place of safety because they were invited by the rabbi, and now they're going through this. martin? >> hard to imagine. sara sidner, thank you very much. last hour i talked to democratic congresswoman madeleine dean of pennsylvania, home of the tree of life synagogue. here's what she had to say. >> i think we're at an extraordinary crossroads in this country. my heart goes out to the synagogue, the rabbi, to the family of mrs. kay. i've just come from the greater philadelphia federation holocaust remembrance where we lifted up the memories and the lives and the stories of the 6 million who were killed during the holocaust. we lifted up mrs. kay. we're at an extraordinary crossroads in this country, where we have to figure out where we stant in terms of our common humanity. we have to call out and stop bigotry, hatred, anti-sell igstism, and we have to do the other part of this, which is gun control. a 19-year-old young man had his hands on an ar-style weapon, and thankfully allegedly it jammed because he was armed to kill as many people as possible. we are at a crossroads in this country and strangely and importantly, in part that crossroads goes through our congress and the very committee i sit on, judiciary, we passed gun violence prevention bills like background checks and the senate is sitting on their hands. background checks save lives and at the same time we're going to be doing important oversite, we also had hearings on the rise of anti-t anti-semitism of white supremacy. and we have to find our common humanity. >> what do you think is -- or how much does the climate, the political climate in this country play into all of this, and is there a role for congress besides just gun control to calm it down? >> i think there's a role to play for every leader in this country and it starts with the top. it starts with the president of the united states you have the president of the united states needs to call out bigotry, not incite it. he should not compare what happened in charlottesville and say there are good people on both sides. he is a role model to others, to children. i call upon him to call out hatred, bigotry of any kind of anti-semitism, islam phobia, i call upon the president -- excuse me, i'm quite upset -- to actually embrace love. to embrace the other. to build up community not tear it down. >> joining me now to discuss further is rabbi levishento. the vice president -- he's also jared kushner and ivanka trump's rabbi. what is your reaction to everything we've been learning about this shoot something. >> obviously, one of pain, one of disappointment, but even though we feel these very deep feelings of pain, disappointment, sorrow, compassion, of course, and comfort, to be offered to those who have lost their loved one. the overwhelming sentiment must always be hope and the future and moving forward. and not allowing something as heinous and as terrible and evil as this to stop us or cut us down. i've been thinking about it ever since someone came to synagogue yesterday who is a congress gant of that synagogue in poway. they are people who walk their children to that synagogue all the time, i could see firsthand the pain and the difficulty that they were going through. >> the sacrifice lori kay made have not been forgotten. we see hate that seems to be on the rise, and i'm wondering, do you believe it is the climate in this country and in the world that is contributing to this. >> i believe we're dealing with a climate that didn't start yesterday. it's been the better part of the last decade something which has begun to rise. i don't think the gunman knew about chabad. i think he was looking for a jewish place to strike. the pain i feel is not nearly as someone from chabad. i feel it as a jew, as an american. i feel it is a puncture of that that has been so sacred in our american life. personally, i'm a great grandchild of people who were murdered in cold blood by the nazis, i'm a grandson of one who died in the war, fighting the natszdyes in the military. and on another side, one who was persecuted for practicing their faith and here i am in the united states of america, openly able to do whatever i want from a religious practice perspective. and to see someone who would gun people down in cold blood merely because of what he perceived to be their religious affiliation, without even knowing who he was killing, shows a very deep evil within this person. and i've been thinking what can one say in times like this. and obvious there there are words that can work. and i do want to reference words that we heard from my mentor, the mentor of the chabad lebovitz movement which is in every state and 100 countries. rabbi lubavitch was once asked to provide comfort for the community which had experienced a cold blooded terrorist attack. and the rabbi answered with three words. he answered in hebrew -- you will be come foerted when you will continue to build. so i believe that if we have a task as individuals, as communities, as a nation, it's to make sure that we smother the crackle of gunshots of hate with acts of decency, good notice, kindness, improving the world, bringing us all to a better space. i want to tell you one idea which the rabbi strongly emphasized. the need to infiltrate values and building of character into the education of children. not merely the acquisition of knowledge. and every year since 1978, the president has actually recognized his birthday as education and sharing day to reiterate that. now, one initiative that he proposed and i believe it would behoove the leadership of our nation, our public officials to take heed and focus on this -- perhaps more closely is something called the moment of silence. now, we all know that we pray differently from each other. and i don't want anyone telling me how to pray, and i don't want to tell anyone else how they should pray. >> how do you see that this would work? >> well, a moment of silence does not allow any instruction on how to use it. the rabbi said very clearly, that if i tell you how to pray, you may be excluded. and even one who's not a believer or someone who is of one faith or another would go and ask their parents if they couldn't find the answer from their parents, they would ask their mentor or religious leader. what is it that i should contemplate in that moment of silence. and he even said that just like the parents -- >> the idea, just to move it along here, is inclusion. >> it's not only inclusion, but it's the lack of exclusion, because there's also publicly available fbi data that clearly spells that those -- or clearly shows that those states which have mandated a moment of silence -- and remember, it's silence only. those states that have mandated a moment of silence have seen a drop in juvenile crime. even if they -- >> we have to leave it there, rabbi, i thank you very much for being with us. >> we hope to be together again for happier things, thanks very much for having me. let's hope we move forward to a much better, brighter future. thank you. >> yes, indeed, thank you, sir. still ahead, breaking news in virginia, as we continue to follow as rescue teams on very treacherous mission try to save five people trapped inside of a cave. the latest on how they're doing next. ly. but allstate actually helps you drive safely... with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast... ...and brake too hard. with feedback to help you drive safer. giving you the power to actually lower your cost. unfortunately, it can't do anything about that. now that you know the truth... are you in good hands? 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>> everything i've been told, they were just in the wrong 34r5is at the wrong time. they were arriving at an apartment complex and supposedly a car bulled up, there was just a slight conversation, and then they were fired upon. that's all. we haven't heard all the details yet, obviously the investigation is still ongoing, no suspects have been arrested. it was a shocking development. >> it is, especially on a night that would be full of so much celebration. the shooting ended with the tragic death of washburn jr., dejuan simmons, as you said. how would people close to simmons describe it? >> he's one of the most popular guys on campus. everything i've been told, both these guys, dejuan was very popular with everybody on campus. would talk to anybody, had an infectious personality. and i think everybody's just in shock right now. >> i want to read the president at washburn released this statement saying, this was a terrible way to end a day which should have been a day of celebration, and a day to look forward. you already mentioned a bit about your own shock and those in the coaches, the community, i'm wondering how is everyone kneeling in reaction to all of this? >> i think it's a little early to know. i've talked to coach craig sherig on multiple occasions today. he's going to have a meeting -- a team meeting at some point today. and, you know, i think that's when they'll start to process, trying to get through this as a group, they've had some -- like most college teams they've had some tragedy to deal with over the years. this was just so sudden and so shocking that i think it's going to take a long time to get through this. >> how is cory doing, do you know? >> cory will -- from all indications, cory will make a complete recovery. the giants have already sent out a statement, and, of course, they're monitoring the situation. he's -- the last i knew he was still in the hospital, it's very good that he will make a complete recovery. >> and we'll hope for that. all right. rick peterson, thank you very much for updating us on the telepho telephone. >> thank you. >> coming up, the white house doubles down on president trump's response to the tragic event in charlottesville. we'll talk about that next. but first, the season premiere of the cnn original series, united shades of america. that's tonight at 10:00, here's the first look. why not have some kind of influence that is righteous. >> his ability to protest. >> it's got to be never ending? 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[laughter] ♪ ♪ "i'm okay." ♪ ♪ as we grieve another apparent hate crime, the debate over how the president responds to these tragedyies is front an center. joe biden used president trump's response to charlottes vilvillea jumping off point. >> he was talking about the renaming of statues. >> he wasn't talking about -- >> he condemned them in no uncertain terms. >> that's exactly what we did, and here is what the president said in august of 2017. >> we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides. on many sides. racism is evil. and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the kkk. neo-nazis, white supremacists, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as americans. you. >> said there was hatred and violence on both sides. >> i think there's blame on both sides. you look at both sides. i think there's blame on both sides, and i have no doubt about it, and you don't have any doubt about it either. >> neo-nazis started this thing -- >> she showed up in charlottesville -- >> excuse me, you didn't -- >> you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. you had people in that group -- excuse me, excuse me, i saw the same pictures as you did. you had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down -- to them, a very important stat due. and the renaming of a park from robert e. lee to another name. >> joining me now, the author of the washington post power of newsletter. and the co-founder and managing editor of the beat d.c., stephanie cross. thank you both for being with me here. >> this rally in charlottesville, it was clearly promoted as a white nationalist event. it was tweeted out by richard spencer, well known white supremacist, we saw the chilling video, from the night before the marchers chanting, jews will not replace us. soy show you all this, because i want to ask you are the president and kellyanne conway trying to reshape the narrative that this rally was only about the removal of the statue? >> well, i think what you see the white house doing here is what they have done time and time again over the past two years, refuse to apologize or to revisit past major missteps that the president has made. this is kellyanne and the president yet again trying to claim that their response was appropriate to something that was actually a -- what has been presented as inaccurately. unite the right was marketed toward white supremacists and far right extremist groups. kellyanne had a chance to explain what the president has even meant with his newest explanation. and -- instead of outright condemning all violence that occurred at charlottesville, and she didn't even explain that clearly on jake tapper's show this morning. kellyanne continuing to parse the president's response really, i think overshadows the bigger picture here, which is the policies of the white house and the continued rhetoric on all sides of the coin as it relates to anti-immigrant, anti-semitism, and islam phobia. and these overall troeps that the president continues to push, and the policies that the white house has prioritized. >> let me just play you something else here, national security adviser john bolton reacted to the california synagogue shooting this morning, and here's he had to say. >> it was an atrocious, utterly excusable reaction. at this point we don't know anything more than what law enforcement has already announced publicly. we don't see a connection to other groups, it was a hate crime, no doubt about it, the investigation will continue, we'll see what happens. >> the president has spoken out quite clearly on this particular incident. it's also clearly been a trend in these types of attacks, tiffany, and you think that bolton should have said -- or shouldn't have said there's no connection with the groups? he seems to play it down? >> that's the motto of the trump administration, from john bolton to kellyanne conway to steven miller, these are people who share commonality with white supremacists because they promote white supremacist policies, rhetoric and when they're not doing that, they're apologizing for them. listen, no matter what side of the coin you flip, robert e. lee was a racist. even if you say that -- well, this is all about the statute and not about the incident, we already know what happened in charlottesville. it claimed the life of heather heyer. they went back to cubicles the next day, to the house next door to you the next day. they went back to families, a wife, perhaps maybe your colleague or 134i7b you see every day. this is something that permeates throughout this country. when we say this is not who we are, that's not exactly true. this in fact is who america is. we elected this person as a president. this is the way the country was founded. but why we love this country is because of the promise of who she could be. even after everything the country has done to people that look like me and anti-immigration. i can still manage to be more of a patriot than people who support this president. when you look at the parallels of what's happening today, no matter how you spin it, robert e. lee was found to be treasonous back at the time that he led the fight against the north. so this is ridiculous, i think it's really dangerous that kellyanne conway has a platform to spread these lies every time she comes on tv. >> let me continue the conversation here. jackie, following at tacks on the muslims that took place in new zealand which i covered. president trump doesn't see white nationalism as a rising threat. do you think yesterday's shooting in anyway may have changed his mind? >> i'm not a mind reader, and it's impossible to tell with this president. but i know going into 2020, his campaign is going to revisit the themes he harped upon in 2016, 2015, which he credits to his victory. that is again an anti-immigrant, anti-muslim, anti-terrorist theme. you know, it's one of -- in addition to trade and the economy, those are the priorities for the president. so i -- you know, he -- and also the president, that was -- the president himself hasn't come in and said that the attacks in new zealand were acts of terrorism. he really -- i think issues one tweet on the matter, was asked about is it once during that time you referred to, and it it hasn't had the opportunity to revisit or comment on it, and the prime minister of new zealand specifically asked the president to express a message of love to muslims around the world after the attack which the president obviously declined to do. >> let me bring in tiffany one last time, we're going to run out of time real quick. tiffany, here's my question. the democratic candidates of 2020 have condemned the attack on the synagogue yesterday we have seen so many of these tragedies, so many calls for changing of the gun laws that has not come about. is this the right strategy to continue to pursue? >> absolutely. you're asking me if pursuing gun rights changes the gun rights laws is the correct strategy to pursue? >> that's what i'm asking. we have seen these mass shootings, the calls for the changes of the laws, it has not happened, i'm wondering, is that the only avenue open to us, to continually go after that or are there other ways we can try to approach this? >> no, that's not the only avenue, i think that is the proper avenue, and it's not the only avenue that will democrats are taking. i think across the field of democrats, people have put forth policies, most recently senator kamala harris put forth her policy on gun rights, where she talked about how this administration rolls back -- she's saying she will use her executive order power to overturn some of these things. i think you'll see other candidates follow on that same pursuit of changing some of these gun laws. when you look at the close relationship that this current administration has with the nra, you can pursue that line of talking on the campaign trail. i also would add that there are all types of mental health issues that people are addressing as well opinion i don't think that it has to be -- you can walk and chew gum at the same time. it's a multifaceted issue, and it has to have multifaceted solutions. what we're covering is a second amendment and gun rights, and that's click bait and what most people pay attention to. i don't think it's a single path line the democrats are walking on. >> thank you both. we appreciate it. we're back in a moment. travel and dining now kayak and opentable let you earn travel rewards every time you dine. with just one reservation on opentable, you can start saving money on hotels with kayak. get started at kayak.com/diningrewards. 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