Clear weve absolutely got to secure the border. Im hoping this committee will be able to come up with a proposal that we can all support, that the president can sign. We are not to appoint where we can announce a deal. Negotiations are still going on. There are good people on this committee, so i have confidence that hopefully well get something done very soon. So as we wait to see how negotiations play out on capitol hill, another democrat just jumped into the race for president. Moments ago, u. S. Senator Amy Klobuchar made her big announcement at a subfreezing rally in minneapolis. I stand before you as the granddaughter of an ironore miner, as the daughter of a teacher and a newspaper man, as the first woman elected to the United States senate from the state of minnesota. [ cheers and applause ] to announce my candidacy for president of the United States. And well have more on the crowded democratic field in just a little bit. So lets begin with cnns White House Correspondent boris sanchez. Good to see you, boris. The president is getting ready to make a trip to the border tomorrow. What can you tell us . Reporter hey there, fred. Yeah, the president is going to be speaking in el paso, texas. We will likely hear him bash democrats. It is still to be a question what the president will say to the American People just five days, four days before a second potential government shutdown. More on that in a second. What i can tell you is talks so far between democrats and republicans have slowed down. Sources have indicated that they are at an impasse over a proposed cap from democrats on the number of beds at i. C. E. Detention facilities. A republican source has indicated the number democrats are proposing is so low that i. C. E. Agents would not be able to do their jobs. Democrats have argued they have already offered concessions to republicans on a number of issues, and this is something that they want. The acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, was asked what he believed the most likely outcome of all these impasses and disagreements would be. Here was his response on meet the press this morning. Whatever hes short of, is he going to find the money somewhere else . Is that what we should expect . I think thats fair. I think thats probably the most likely outcome. You cannot take a shutdown off the table. You cant take 5. 7 off the table. If you end up some place in the middle, youll probably see the president say, yeah, okay, ill find the money some place else. Theres this National Emergency. Are the two the same or different . Do you find money without declaring a National Emergency, or do you need to declare the National Emergency to use this other money . The answer is both. There are certain sums of money available to the president , to any president. Theres pots of money where president s, all president s have access to without a National Emergency. And theres ones that he will not have access to without that declaration. Reporter as for the president s messaging tomorrow, we got a bit of a taste for it. He set the table on twitter this morning, attacking democrats in a pair of tweets, suggesting that they are being held back by their congressional leadership and also talking about the controversy at the Governors Mansion in virginia, suggesting that democrats have had a bad week because of that, and positive reviews for his state of the union address. I can also tell you, fred, that a source, a democratic aide, indicates that if negotiations continue to stall, they will bring to the house floor a bill that would fund dhs at least through september and keep other Government Agencies open. Its still unclear if the Republicanled Senate would take that up though, fred. All right. Boris sanchez, thanks so much, at the white house. So if there is another partial u. S. Government shutdown, hundreds of thousands of federal employees could soon be working, again, without paychecks. The irs said thursday that there are still hundreds of employees who have received some but not all of their back pay, even as we approach yet another potential shutdown. Im joined now by a u. S. Agriculture Department Employee in delaware and just received her back pay from the last shutdown on wednesday. But explain to me, at first you did receive a check, thought it was going to be back pay, but then come to find out it was, what, 250 versus the 9,000 in back pay you were expecting . Yes, that was a surprise. And what was that like . You got the check. You thought, oh, great, heres my back pay. You eagerly opened it up, and then what . Well, when i checked my account, i saw the 250 and i said, what in the world is this . I was wondering, where is the rest of my money . So later on in the week, i did get pretty much what i was expecting. It wasnt quite 9,000, but it was getting close to it. Okay. All right. So thats right, the automatic deposit is in your bank account. I understand the 250 ends up being, what, sort of like a reward for working through the shutdown . That wasnt necessarily a representation of your pay . When we found out from the district office, they said that was a bonus for continuing to work during the shutdown. That allowed the companies to continue to run because mandatory inspection is required in order for the meat and Poultry Companies to produce products. So that 250 was a bonus. Okay. So alfred, what are your thoughts and concerns now . Just five days away from another potential shutdown with a deadline approaching on pulling a budget together. What are your biggest concerns right now . Well, right now we are concerned. We still have people, at least 120 inspectors at this point, that have not been paid from the last shutdown. People are beginning the ones that do have their money, theyre beginning to try to pull themselves out of this predicament they were in because of the shutdown. So with another one coming on, youre going to have people without pay again, trying to decide how to keep their households running. Im hoping that the president is going to make the right decision and look for money elsewhere because its not fair to us as working employees to work without pay. And what are these colleagues telling you about the fact they have yet to get their back pay and now theyre looking at this, you know, next potential i mean, what kinds of adjustments are they able to make . I remember the president had said, you know, people would be making adjustments. What are people telling you about their worries, how theyre going to, you know, pay the rent, pay mortgage, car bills, all that . Well, people are concerned. The good thing, a lot of the creditors and Mortgage Companies are working with us, but it is not fair for people to work, and a lot of them are working overtime and not getting their money in a timely fashion. The people are concerned. You know, we make adjustments, but its not fair to the people. Theyre upset. I just spoke with one of my coworkers yesterday. He works seven days a week and still has not gotten his money. He says hes not asking for anything other than what he has earned. Alfreda dennis, thank you so much. Everyone keeping their fingers crossed that people do not have to continue to go without pay and that certainly there will be something expedited so they can finally receive their back pay. Thanks so much. Yes, thank you so much. Thank you. Appreciate it. Lets talk more about all of this. Historian and professor at Princeton University with us, and White House Correspondent for the new york times, michael shear. Good to see you both. Julian, you hear about the anxiety there from federal workers. If there is yet another shutdown, you know, how can lawmakers and the president justify this . Well, they cant. This is dysfunction. This is not something that should be tolerable. Were normalizing government shutdowns as a tactic in negotiation. I think the republicans will face a lot of pressure, just as they did the last round. This did not sit well with a lot of the public. As stories of government workers come out, and equally important stories of Government Services like air Traffic Control not being provided, i think many republicans understand this could be very damaging to the party thats already hurting. And michael, just five days left for this government funding deal. There was so much optimism leading into the weekend. What does this lack of optimism on a sunday evening now tell you . Well, it is possible that well get something before the end of the week. You know, congress likes to push up against these deadlines until the very last minute. So its still possible that something happens. Talking to the folks on the hill today, what you get the sense is that the democrats have been willing in the negotiations to sort of go a little bit towards the president on the wall money. Theres not as much money as the president would like, but that theyre willing to go a little bit of the way, perhaps as much as 2 billion for some sort of funding for a barrier or a wall along the border. But theyve sort of introduced this new element, which is to say you put the limit on the number of beds that i. C. E. Can reserve for people that they pick up. The idea, the democrats say, is that will force the administration to only prioritize really truly bad criminals and not do what theyve been doing for the last two years, which is to arrest people just for the crime of being in the country illegally, which is something that the democrats have been really frustrated with over the last two years. So julian, at issue is still, you know, this border wall funding. The president keeps threatening a National Emergency and that he would declare it and money would be located elsewhere, but is that still an uphill battle for the president . It is an uphill battle. If he does that, hell be challenged both by congress, which has the ability to challenge his invoking that power, and it will be challenged in the court. Theres very few people who agree that we are in the middle of a National Emergency other than the fact we cant move forward with a budget. Not an emergency objen the bord. So that will be a rough process. But the president doesnt mind. In some ways, it just pushes the battle to another playing field. He can have it again. And there will be some money available without invoking emergency power that he can use. So i still think this is very appealing to him, and it allows him to act like a commander in chief in a time of crisis, which politically he finds attractive. So michael, does it appear the president might be okay with a second shutdown . I mean, you know, you heard what Mick Mulvaney said. I think you have to, you know, believe that if this president is willing to push beyond the normal boundaries of political dec decorum that wed all grown used to for some time. We just finished a 35day shutdown. Thats the longest thats ever happened in the country. If i were a betting person, i wouldnt bet that the person is going to 100 sign whatever is put in front of him, but i think as julian just said, the pressure really, really did mount on the Republican Party, on the president and his republican allies in congress, and i think that they are still feeling the pain of that in congress. I think theres going to be a lot of pressure on the president as this deadline comes near. The president heading to texas tomorrow, using the border as a backdrop for him to continue to argue that a wall is necessary. Why, julian, will this trip be any different from the trip he made just a few weeks ago . It wont be any different. Were replaying the same strategy over and over. This is not an idea that sits well with the majority of the public. But it is a tool to keep his own base excited and to keep part of the Republican Coalition on board with what hes doing. So i dont think hes going to grow support for the wall. I dont think youre going to see any change in the political dynamics, but hes using this again and again as a strategy to keep the loyal loyal. And the question remains, what do republicans do . What does the rest of the Republican Party do . They can join democrats and override any veto. They have the power to control this. And we just dont know how theyre going to respond. Michael . Yeah, i think thats right. And i think, you know, get ready to hear a much more combative tone from the president tomorrow than you did during the state of the union speech. You know, this is a rally tomorrow. This is a Campaign Rally set up and put on by the president s reelection campaign. And its where hes most comfortable. Its where the president s really tough rhetoric on the wall and on Everything Else on immigration tends to come out. I think by the end of, you know, 24 hours from now, i think well probably feel less optimistic, not more, given what the president has said. 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It just happened within the last hour, as we all shared that moment, really pitching herself as the candidate from the heartland, someone who has a big heart, willing to cross the aisle to get things done, very effective senator for minnesota for her own constituency, but also somebody pushing for a Traditional Democratic agenda, whether it be for comprehensive immigration or for health care reform, as well as cybersecurity and opioid addiction and countering Prescription Drug costs. I had a chance to catch up with her afterwards, fred, to ask her specifically, because it is such a crowded field, what makes her different, what makes her think that shes going to be able to stand out mornamongst some of t other toptier candidates and make a difference in this primary. Heres how she responded. What makes you a unique candidate at this time . Its a crowded field. What makes you different than all the others . What makes me unique is i did this announcement speech in the middle of a blizzard, and i think we need people with grit. I have that grit. Its really important that we hear from all parts of the country and have someone in the white house that has peoples back. And i am going to start here right on the mississippi river, reach out to the rest of the heartland, and then to the rest of the country. And what about those who say that there are progressives in the party, those on the coasts and urban areas who say thats the party, the direction the party is going . How do you win them over . Well, i think what we all want to see is progress. We want a president that looks people in the eye and tells them the truth and tells them where we need to go, and i dont think that has to be from one part of the country. Its what ive done my whole life. Reporter and fred, one of the challenges that she has is first name recognition. This really is her first big opportunity, this announcement, to really introduce herself to the rest of the c