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Im fredricka whitfield. Were three days away from the final debate of the year here on cnn. Donald trump just spoke at a rally in akin, south carolina, where he said if hes elected, two minutes after he was sworn in, he would, quote, unsign all of obamas executive actions. I dont even think he tries anymore. I think he just signs executive actions. The one good thing about an executive action is that the new president can go in you dont have to go through congress, you can just and hes a great lawyer, you can just go and sign and its over, right . Its true. An executive action can be, you know, can be defunded, whatever you want to call it. It can be unsigned so quickly by the new president. So what you do is you go in, and i think probably within the first hour, it could be within about two minutes after i take an oath, assuming im lucky enough and we get the support and we get out and vote, we have to get out and vote. But i would be getting rid of a lot of them very quickly within the first hour. One would be immigration. He signed an executive order where people with just pour in. Alan and a lot of people got very involved with that, and actually, shockingly, not doing badly if court. Lets go to cnns sunlen serfati who is there at the rally. Sunlen, whats been the response . Reporter well, its been an interesting crowd so far here, fred. First and foremost, many of trumps rallies and events are known for a protest and today is no exception. As donald trump started talking about his proposal that he released this week, to ban, temporarily muslims from coming into the united states, there was a silent protest that was staged. A group of three people stood up and turned their back on trump and faced the press. They were wearing small star badges that said stop islamophobia. Another one said the simple word human. They were escorted out quickly. Trump continued later on in his rally. There were another group of protesters, this one more loud, vocal, shouting kkk and they had a sign that said refugees welcome. So certainly, big moments here. I want to turn the camera out here. If you can see, theres a protest going on behind me. It says this man says fight power. As you can see, much of the response here at trump rallies is people shouting trump, trump, trying to drown out those protesters. And i think its notable, fred, that before this speech by trump started here today, one of the people opening up for him, they instructed the crowd to anticipate protesters. They say, you will likely hear protesters today. Your response should be to shout trump, trump and drown them out. So a lot of people here in the room have been instructed to have that be their response. Now, fred, there still seems to be some protesters behind me going on. Well have the camera pan over there. As you can see, theres about 4,000 people here today, a big crowd. People are regularly checked for signs and paraphernalia that they bring in. Waving signs theyve made on the back of trump signs, writing things. Not clear what this protester is protesting about. I should note, though, donald trump in response, hes pretty used to these protesters now. Earlier today, when the first round of protesters interrupted, he said, you know, its actually a beautiful thing. Its a beautiful thing when people in our country with protest, and he said that people like conservatives should have been doing much more protesting the last seven years of obamas administration. So, fred, a lively crowd today here at the trump rally. Fred . So sunlen, well give you some time to do some real reporting on that and find out exactly what the people who are now being escorted out have been saying. If they are collectively all on the same page, if they are different messages, opposing messages, because certainly, theres a lot of excitement there. But we really would love to have a clear understanding of what is at the root of it all there. Sunlen serfati, thanks so much. I know it was tough talking with the crowd, the rousing crowd there. So good job on that. Well check back with you. Lets talk more about this, katrina pearson, national spo spokewoman for the Trump Campaign and bob beckel, a democratic strategist. Both of you joining us right now. Bob, you first. Youre seeing the crowd that has turned out of mostly supporters there. Hard to know exactly what was being said clearly and, you know, why they were also being escorted out. So, how do you kind of assess the scene right there, because on one hand, trump is saying, as we heard from sunlen, he says, its a beautiful thing that people can speak their mind, at the same time, people are escorted out. What do you make of what just happened . Im glad to see that trump has sort of changed his tune. Not too many weeks ago, a protester was beat up and thrown out by Trump Supporters and trump said, i think the guy deserves it. So im glad to see hes changed that, at least. But what you see here is the divisiveness of what happens with donald trump. Hes a very divisive candidate, but he listen, 4,000 people on a saturday is a pretty impressive crowd. I take nothing away from him. The point is, though, that when you look at that crowd and you look at the other crowds he gets, its the same kind of people. They are people who are almost allwhite, who are all between the age of 25 and 55, and, you know, i dont think hes got a base beyond that. But, so far, hes holding it up in the polls with that crowd. And that is a sliver of the republican party. So katrina, how do you assess this . What bob was just saying, he gave the demographic, but you dont fit that demographic that he just spelled out. What is it about a gathering like this in aiken, south carolina, and this gathering and what may have been protests, ill unclear what was happening there on the heels of some of the comments that have been going back and forth between donald trump and ted cruz. And donald trump challenging whether he could be an evangelical with cuban roots. Well, i think that donald trump is right. It is a great thing in this country where you can go out and protest your feelings. And at the same time, you know, bob, you keep pushing that same narrative that somebody was beat up at a trump rally. And that just simply wasnt true. The protester came in, started thrashing out at people, and they were defending themselves by pushing him away. No one was beat up at that rally. But i will also say, this is the first time in a very long time that we have seen an option party rising up out against whats been happening over decades. For 15 years in this country, after 9 11, the borders are still wide open. We have infiltration of isis, with a thousand investigations going on right here today. Nothings been done. Theyre just now talking about reforming the visa waver system. This should have all been done 15 years ago to protect americans. So, of course you see the person thats saying, we have National Sovereignty in this country and if we dont protect it, well lose our country. Of course that person is going to be out there getting on all the rallies and getting the people behind him. You know, you ought to brief trump on a couple of things. He said that he was going to if he got elected president , he was going to reverse obamas executive orders, one of which allows thousands, tense of thousands of Illegal Immigrants into the country. Thats not what it says. It says that people who are here would stay here, about 800,000 illegally. Well, the point is that what trump said is he signed an executive order allowing more illegals to come in. Thats wrong. And i would bet you if you asked trump to name four executive orders that barack obama has signed, i bet he couldnt say it. Well, i will think you will agree that the people who did sign the executive order for are dreamers, which means they are here in the country illegally which is being challenged in the court system. And mr. Trump is right, wlas done by executive order can be undone by executive order. Thats right. Because this president is currently now trying to take away Second Amendment rights by executive order and he cant do that. Thats exactly right, except what trump said is he allowed people to come into the country, which was flat wrong. The other thing i find interesting is hes now gotten around to attacking cruz. Why, because cruz has gotten ahead of him in the policy in iowa. And when you start attacking a guy for his evangelical roots, lets remember that cruz father was an evangelical minister in cuba. So i think trump is insteading into an area here he better be very, very careful, because ted cruz has more evangelical in his finger than donald trump has got in his body. And katrina, its not but there trump that there is a taking away of Second Amendment rights by way of executive hororder. That could be challenged. Lets talk about what is happening with this kind of dialogue. Are we seeing in this race more divisiveness or are we seeing some representation of unity . Because that is certainly, you know, what is being exemplified, whether it be protests or whether it be some heckling, however its being defined. Something is happening and bubbling up to the surface even more so, katrina, it would seem, in this political season. So is this healthy, is this good for the political process . Is this good for america . How do you assess it . I think its fantastic for america. Were having discussions we havent had in decades. And i dont think its just on the republican side. When you have the black lives matter protesters interrupt the Hillary Clinton speech, i think that goes without saying that theres a lot of sentiment in this country where its leaders have failed them miserably on both sides of the aisle. I do think its healthy that were having this discussion, particularly with regard to National Security and people who feel like theyre being ignored. We have a black president for the last seven, almost eight years, and were having black lives matter protests. And we look at whats happening with chicago, with rahm emanuel. There is something going on in this country and the people feel it intrinsically and all of them are ready to speak out. Bob . If you call this a discussion, if you call protesters at a rally of 4,000 people a discussion, lets have a real discussion. I would like to have somebody talk to donald trump, specifically about what hes talking about. For example, he says he wants to build a 12foot fence around mexico or the border, rather, and ill tell you what, ill with the first person to invest in 13foot ladders, but leaving that aside, he says the mexicans are not going to pay for it. What if they dont . Is he going to invade them . Hed probably cut off their foreign aid. We give mexico hundreds of millions of dollars. I think there is negotiation there you say hed probably, that means everyones trying to guess here. Here we are at this junction, months away from the primary and caucus and we dont know specifics from a lot of candidates, not just donald trump. Exactly. Hes the only one that puts forth policies and says, we have to come to the table. We have to negotiate. We have to redo certain things. He has put forth his ideas and his vision. Everybody else is just running against trump. There is no policy or vision they want to put out and talk about several different last word, bob . Okay, the last word i would say is on his policy on syria, here was his answer. Im going to sit back and watch what happens. If thats a policy, then im surprised. That was the policy when russia decided to go in and murder christians. With three days away from the last gop political debate of this year, well see and hear if there are more specifics on all of these, and especially as it pertains to National Security. That should be the focus. Christina pearson and bob beckel, thank you so much to both of you. Appreciate it. And a subtle reminder, real subtle, three days from now, tuesday night, final gop debate of the year moderated by wolf blitzer. Our coverage from las vegas starting at 6 00 p. M. Eastern time and then, of course, cnn is partnering with the Salem Radio Network on this debate. So you can also listen to it on the radio. Go to salemmedia. Com. Plus, be sure to watch cnns state of the union tomorrow. 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Were following new investigations in the investigation of the San Bernardino massacre. Divers have pulled items out of a lake, about three miles from the site where seid Rizwan Farook and his wife killed 13 people more than a week ago. Very windy there at that lake. What more do we know about these items that may have been retrieved . Well, we only know that they have found items. We dont know exactly what those items entail or whether they are definitely connected to this case. But fbi officials have confirmed that divers have found a number of items. This is very painstaking work. This lake is murky, its dark, its deep. We know there are three divers in the water today and every now and then you can see them pop up. You can see one of those divers along the bridge area. Hes been going under, theyve been working it from side to side. Weve seen divers on this side towards the cameras yesterday working in this area and now today, theres a couple of divers on the other side. And what we understand is that they are going to scour as much as they can of this lakes bottom in order to provide assurance that they have pulled anything out that could possibly be linked to the shooters. The fbi telling us that they came out to this area to search because they had received a couple of leads that there perhaps might be something out here, because the shooters were spotted in this park area, on the day of the shooting. And as youre seeing, we are seeing him throw a few items to the shore. Every now and then, we see them pick something up, throw it back in the water. So its still a mystery, exactly, what they are pulling out. But fred, we know that investigators are still looking for a hard drive that was missing the from the couples home. And those electronics are such an important part of this investigation and putting the puzzle together, to figure out whether Tashfeen Malik and syed Rizwan Farook were influenced by anyone or any kind of terrorist group. Ana cabrera, thank you so much. Lets get more on these developments. Im joined now by cnn Law Enforcement analyst and former fbi assistant director, tom fuentes. Thanks so much for joining us. So we dont know exactly what they have found, what they may have even retrieve. Earlier you said, you know, if it does mean like the hard drive or anything electronic, theres a pretty good possibility you could still retrieve information. Lets talk about what kind of credible information investigators must have had to even go to this lake and feel fairly confident they might locate something there, because this couple has recently been there. Fred, it could have been as simple as a neighbor saw this black suv, at the time, didnt think anything of it, until later, watching the news, they see that that vehicle or a vehicle resembling that vehicle, had been close to that lake. And it could as simple as that. It doesnt sound like they have area video cameras or Traffic Cameras that might have spotted the vehicle or spotted them personally, but sound like maybe one or two neighbors may have called in said, you know, now that we see this happened, we may have seen a vehicle resembling that later in the day. What does this tell you about the level of sophistication in trying to cover up the track. If indeed they may have thrown the hard drive or Something Else in this lake. We know and investigators have already said that they had crushed cell phones that were retrieved from garbage cans, but what does this tell you about the covering up of the tracks, that indeed they must have been had dialogue with others and they just dont want or they were instructed to the to, you know, lead two others or sell anyone they m

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