there you can hear it. that militant group linked to al qaeda carried out the brazen day side attack on a shopping mall in nairobi last september killing 60 people. it comes just a day after fighte fighters laid seige to a prison where dozens of their comrades were being held. elise lab bot joins us from washington. why attack them now? >> the administration is kind of sensitive to the idea that there are a lot of global threats going on and they attacked somalia, not going after isis for instance in iraq in a greater way. officials telling me they can walk and chew gum at the same time. al-shabab poses a great risk to the region. they saw a target of opportunity. they had that target of opportunity that doesn't present itself very often and they went for it, carol. >> so how much of a player is al-shabaab across the region? >> increasingly, this leader of the al-shabaab has been pushing the group to go outside of somalia. they have launched attacks in uganda. they have threatened to extend their attacks across the region. right now, the somali military and african union are launched in a very big offensive to flush the groop out of the region and this is one of the concerns. >> all right. thanks so much. as you know, president obama is not just facing critics on capitol hill. he's also taking heat from every day americans. a u.s. today poll shows widespread dissatisfaction with the president's handling of crises in ukraine and the middle east. more than half of americans feel the president is not tough enough on national security and foreign policy. much of the country is divided over america's exact role in the world. the same poll, 39% feel the world does too much. 31% say the united states does too little. the president leaves for europe to shore up alliances and meet with fellow members of the nato military coalition. tell us more. >> the last nato summit was 2012 in chicago. does anybody remember that one? maybe not. just look at all the attention now on this upcoming summit, as the west tries to deal with threats from russia and isis. >> how is president obama ending up in the sleepy baltic capital of estonia this afternoon? just take a look at its neighbor. suddenly this added on meeting of members of estonia, latvia and lithuania. to re-affirm our ironclad commitment to collective defense. as we kem more rate the start of world war ii, nato matters. ukraine is looking to join. nato's secretary-general is looking at creating a rapid response military force. something the white house supports. this summit now will also look at what to do next about russia. as europe draws up new sanctions. yet another crisis looms to be discussed by the west and that is isis. with thousands of foreign fighters with western passports currently fighting in syria, britain's prime minister now with europe has vowed to act. >> a firm security response with military action to go after terrorists, international cooperation on intelligence or uncompromising action against terrorists at home. >> president obama at home, while air strikes on isis in iraq continue, had a bit of a rough long weekend in the press following those words on syria. >> we don't have a strategy yet. >> with some head turning reaction from both parties. >> the russian bear is encountering the obama kitty cat. >> he's very cautious. maybe in this instance, too cautious. >> the president has made clear he is loathe to use military force unless it is well thought out and work. has repeatedly emphasized the need for a strong international coalition with russia and isis. now the nato summit has plenty on the table. >> we all know a big meeting doesn't generate big decisions and big news. we're more likely to see something more on sanctions on russia here. the goal is to look at the effectiveness of the international response so far to both russia and isis and to see if anything more can be done on either count. >> all right. just moments ago, the he is tone -- he is tone the united states is vastly outspending its fellow nato members. in 2013, the united states spent $735 billion on defense. the other 27 nations combined spent about $288 billion. >> president obama addressed the disparity in remarks last week. >> it is not in the cards for us to see a military confrontation between russia and the united states in this region. keep in mind, however, that i'm about to go to a nato conference. ukraine is a member of nato, but a number of those states that are close by are, and so part of the reason i think this nato meeting is going to be so important is to refocus attention on the critical function that nato plays, to make sure that every country is contributing. >> in other words, fellow countries, pony up some money. i want to bring in phil black. he's in moscow. the e.u. is vowing to step up sanctions but the russian president seems undeterred. ukraine official talks about a great war with russia. what happens next? >> it does seem very likely the european union will blemt -- implement a new round of sanctions. we'll see how strong they are and what russia's response will be. they came back pretty hard and banned all imports from all western countries products. if nato proceeds with this planned rapid response force as well as really ramping up its activity in this region, more exercises, perhaps predeployed sources and forces as well, you can about the time that russia won't like that also. the russian government says it will respond and adjust its military posture accordingly. we don't know what that means just yet but it all points to greater tensions because remember one of the key justifications russia refers to repeatedly for its recent actions and policies in this region is the belief that over a long period of time now nato has been expanding east without adequately thinking about russia's feelings or taking into account russia's own security concerns. >> all right. we've also just learned moments ago that halliburton has agreed to pay $1.1 billion for the gulf oil spill more than four years ago. that money will settle most of plaintiffs class claims. the company designed and built the well that led to the largest oil spill in u.s. history and killed 11 workers. still to come to the "newsroom," the fbi has joined the investigation as to how hackers got access to nude photos of some hollywood's biggest stars. what's next? 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"the new york times" calls its the ninth circle of hell the posters are anonymous. cnn justice correspondent pamela brown live in washington with more on the fbi investigation. good morning, pamela. >> good morning to you. we are learning this morning that fbi agents in los angeles are engaging with some of the victims as part of the investigation that has opened up in the circulation of nude photos of celebrities. they are going to be working with companies where any of these photos were stored, including apple. there have been allegations that the i cloud may have been breached. that's certainly a possibility. investigators are certainly going to be looking at and they are going to be looking at other servers where the files were stored. it appears the photos leaked were holder older, some were recent. carol, investigators will be honing in on the leaked pictures, looking for any digital data that may be contained in them, that could provide clues where they were collected from or stores. >> how likely is it they will find this hacker? >> well, i mean, these things happen relatively quickly. in talking to cyber experts who have been involved with similar investigations, carol, it can be a relatively quick process, and you know there have been similar celebrity hacking investigations in the past. a few years ago, for example, a florida man was actually found guilty of wire tapping an thornsed access to a computer after he gained access to the emails of several celebrities through figuring out their passwords. there are so many different methods that you can steal someone's proprietary information. in that case, that man was sentenced to ten years in jail. there can be stiff penl for these hackers. >> now that these photos have been hacked, what can be done going forward? and is your ka at that -- data stored in the cloud actually safe? so, first of all, i know it's tough, isn't it, because nothing seems to be safe on the internet. >> right. and this is the equivalent of someone breaking into your house and stealing your very private things, and then posting it publicly, almost standing in front of your householding it up saying look what i got out of there. these are very private moments between people. granted they took pictures of it. people have been taking pictures of their private moments since the dawn of the photographs. i don't think we can fault them for doing that. i think it's unfortunate where they ended up. >> it's unbelievable, because there's this whole dark web that we often don't talk about. where these imagines are -- images are traded, listen to what he said about it. >> a lot of times these things might be privately traded. think of them as baseball cards. they are traded in these groups and we may never even hear about it. >> the idea that these celebrity nudes, that celebrity might even know that there are nude images of themselves on the internet -- >> who are these people? it makes me vomit. i mean, seriously. it does. who are these people? what do they get out of this? >> it totally depends. there's a whole community of hackers. a lot of times they will do this for money. they could be offering to sell and trade this for bit coin. a lot of times they want bragging rights on these online forums, they are saying hey i got this image, i got this image, to prove a point. >> how do you protect yourself? >> for one, you should change your passwords frequently and often. use two step authentication so that no one can simply guess your password and be very mindful of these phishing scams, where people send out official emails, even i've seen them and thought that looks too good to real, maybe i'll click, but i'm not going to click. if apple or your bank or email service provider, if they really need to get in touch with you to change something, they are not going to send you an email. they are qog to reach out to you in an appropriate matter. how do you protect your information in the cloud? >> i will say to you. the number one -- what he says to celebrities, don't upload your images to the cloud, because there are many ways that the cloud could be hacked. we can't say it was hacked, but there could have been a vulnerability that allowed a hacker to exploit someone. if you delete your photos, oftentimes it takes four to six weeks for those photos to go away from the cloud. maybe you shouldn't up load to the cloud. make sure you have those strong passwords. instead of maybe a password, what you can do is have a pass phrase which is essentially a long sentence you would use as your password to remember it. >> i'm going to ask you the toughest question of all. 4 chan, when you have a site that encourages criminal behavior, what should be done? >> this is a difficult ethical, legal question, where it's do you go to them and say, all right, you got to stop trading in this sort of under belly black market stuff or are you tramping on people's freedom of speech rights? i think it's a very difficult question, but i think the one good thing that has come out of this, it was such a large target that we're all paying attention to it and maybe some legislation or some changes that will be made that will help in the long run. >> people targeted have great amounts of money which means they can pay people to go after these hackers, right? >> sure. the every day -- we keep hearing more and more about hacking, right? these people can go after them, but also these are celebrities and their whole life is to a degree their image and their fame and this could have long lasting effects, so we need to be more aware of how to protect our information especially because we are increasingly connected. we have instagram, facebook, twitter, we have all these information that our -- all these ways that our information could be leaked. >> let's talk about strong passwords. what's a strong password? it's not 12345, right? >> that's the absolutely worse. password, 1, 2, 3. anything anybody can guess, i like to mix up different words? use a password generator or program that creates a complicated password, inserts it for you and maybe you don't ever have to see it. >> how often should you change your password? >> never have the same password. when i say pass phrase, my pass phrase i like bret larson. no one would guess that. >> especially since you don't really like him. >> especially since i don't really like bret larson. that's really important. what these guys are using, they could have potentially be using a program that automatically generates these passwords. >> i'm going to change mine after the show. >> thank you so much. still to come in the "newsroom," behind the scenes of interviews with those three detained americans in north korea. cnn will ripley is now out of that secretive country and he can speak freely. hi, will. >> carol, we are now in beijing, and we can tell you what was happening behind the cameras as we sat down with those detained americans. ♪ (train 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everything we can, but i think it's also important for people to understand we're not going to outline all of that publicly because our objective is to bring them home. >> kenneth bae, matthew miller and jeffrey fowle gave separate interviews to cnn yesterday. each man urging united states to send an enjoy. -- envoy. that became quite a surprise to cnn reporter will ripley. they were taken to a secret location to conduct these interviews. will has left north korea. he joins us now from beijing, china, where he can speak a little more freely. tell us how this all went down. >> it all came together very quickly, carol. we had made the request a couple of times. one on the first day we arrived in north korea and several days later that we really wanted to speak with detained americans. we were told in both cases, that was impossible. we also asked to speak to a high level official. as we were on this one shoot, we were pulled aside and told that a government official in pyongyang was going to speak with us but we needed to leave right now. i pulled out my cell phone camera and started rolling and here's what i saw. an abrupt detour during a trip to cover pro wrestlers in north korea. one minute we're on a sightseeing tour and next we're told to expect an interview with a government official. when we pull up to this building, we learn who is really inside. kenneth bae is serving 15 years of hard labor. pyongyang is giving us strictly controlled access to bae and two other detained americans. north korea is calling it a favor. we get the impression this regime is looking for a line of communication with the u.s. >> i'm the only prisoner in the camp. >> he is housed separately from 200,000 north korean prisoners. they endure horrific conditions at six prison camps. he says his health is failing, but his conditions are humane. as he serves his sentence, jeffrey fowle learns his. >> i'm getting desperate. >> he's already confessed to leaving a bible in north korea. >> it's a violation of the tourist purpose as well. >> that covert act of leaving a bible could cost fowle years of freedom. experts say religion threatens the north korean regime. only the leaders are considered divine. each man is held in a separate room down the same hallway. they never have contact with each other. this man, matthew miller, awaiting trial for tearing up his tourist visa and seeking asylum. >> during my investigation, i discussed my motive and for the interview it is not necessary. >> now all he wants is help from the u.s. government. >> this interview is my final chance. >> a chance to return to his old life away from the absolute isolation of being held in north korea. during our trip, government minders are always watching. what caught us by surprise is how north korea appears to be reaching out to the united states, using these three men to send a message. >> carol, before the interviews, we were given very specific conditions, and we were told we had to follow them or the consequences would be serious. we had five minutes with each. again, they were in separate rooms, and we had to stick with certain topics that were agreeable to discuss. we were told that our flight out this morning might be in jeopardy if we didn't follow those rules. given that these men have never had contact with each other, yet their answers to my questions were nearly identical, you have to wonder if they also got some sort of talk before sitting down with our cameras, carol. >> i know you are a pro, i got to ask you, you were i a little nervous? >> sure. i absolutely was, and our government minders were nervous as well and that's really -- that's really what struck me, is that these are people who the government trains to handle western media representatives, cnn, other networks that come to north korea. they have been cool, calm and collected all week. had no problems trying to tell us what could shoot, what we shouldn't shoot. we obviously pushed back but they were shaking when they pulls me aside and said we were going to pyongyang and i didn't know what was going to happen quite frankly. it's part of the reason i started recording with some cell phone camera because i wanted some sort of documentation where we were going and what was going to happen. i never expected we would be interviewing all three of detained americans. >> all right. will ripley, thanks for a great story. we appreciate it. reporting live from beijing this morning. and good morning, i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me this morning. a check of your top stories at 30 minutes past the hour. the u.s. military has launched strikes against a terror group in somalia. the suspected drone attack was directed at al-shabaab terror network. that's a group that attacked a mall in kenya last year. today, jurors begin deciding the fate of four men charged in the black water case. 17 unarmed iraqi civilians were gunned down in baghdad several years ago. the defendants say 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the media portraying a negative picture of, you know, his accomplishments in office or lack thereof? is he right? >> i mean, look, this is making things look somewhat worse than they actually are is pretty much what the media does. this is the life we've chosen, the line of work we're in, we should be willing to own up to it but i think in this particular case, usually when you hear presidents blaming the media, complaining that their economic record season getting the credit it deserves, complaining that the media makes things look worse than it is, it's a sign that they aren't doing well and it's sort of the last refuge of a president with low approval ratings which is pretty much where president obama is right now. the reality is august was not a great month in world affairs. you know, you were talking about events in russia and ukraine. obviously, there's some difficulties in the middle east and so on and that just season the media creating problems where none exist, and i think that the president is trying to turn out his base. the democrats are struggling to turn out their base. i don't think attacking republicans is the worst possible strategy, but it doesn't mean that the president is right, you know, that things are -- that the media is making -- it's been a tough month. >> i will say this, donna, whenever the white house puts out a statement about the state of the economy, let's say a jobs report comes out, it's pretty good, the white house will issue the statement this is a great report but we have a long way to go, so they do it to themselves. >> well, look, i mean, the truth of the matter is that the president is absolutely right. i mean, the stock market is up. when you look at the deficit is down, consumer confidence is up. housing prices has somewhat stabilized. when the president says in the white house that we is still has a ways to go, he never set the bar so low that we just want to get where we were say six, seven, eight years ago. he wants to move the country forward and the reason why he criticized republicans is that they have earned the right to be criticized for blocking job growth. the president is trying to raise the minimum wage so every american can have food on their table and to have jobs that they can rely on. he wants to make sure that women are paid the same amount of men, equal pay. he wants to create an infrastructure hub so that our manufacturing sector, when the president makes these criticisms, he's not trying to fire up the base, he's trying to fire up the people we've come a long ways since the great recession. we have a long ways to go and we need to do that together. >> i would say that 2008 was so horrible for so many people. it's hard to feel hope even when the economy is improving and it is improving, but the wage gap is huge. >> there's a reality here that's been true in both of the last press sis, where, you know, you have -- you had a weak -- weaker than usual economic recovery under george w. bush after the stock market crash in 2000-2001. then you had a very slow limping economic recovery under president obama and in both cases, i remember back in 2005 or so, you had republicans saying things a little bit like what donna just said, stock market is up, the bush economy is the greatest story never told, and you hear that a bit from democrats right now, but the reality is the last 15 years, both under republican and now under a democratic president have not been great years for the american middle class and it's really hard to tell a story to voters that, you know, that contradicts their own actual experience which is stagnation, basically. >> that is true. but the great recession was not like the end of the clinton-gore years, when we had record surpluses and we had a strong economy. look, we can all agree to disagree on just where we are today, but you know the truth is that we need congress to act on these legislative matters. congress returns next week. we got budgets that have to be approved so we don't play this shut down game again. i think the president is showing leadership, but i have to tell you one thing, carol, democrats are fired up and this time they are ready to vote. this is not 2010. this is not 2010. >> we'll see. >> get your kool-aid. >> we'll see. we'll all be here in november to find out, hopefully. >> fire it up. >> thanks so much. still to come in the "newsroom," think of it as road rage much higher up. we've seen three incidents of road rage concerning leg room on planes. is it time to change the rules? shouldn't be you able to recline your seats? we'll talk about that next. air rage is becoming a real problem. hundreds of people cramped into a tight space can put your nerves on edge. three flights have been diverted recently because of air rage. two last month and it happened again on a delta light, a woman reclined her seat and that sparked a fight. >> this woman sitting next to me started reclining her seat back. the woman started screaming and swearing. the flight attendant came over and that exacerbated what was going on and she demanded that the flight land. >> this is the third incident involving air rage and reclining seats. joining me to talk about this is cnn aviation analyst mary sciavo. >> it's great to have you here. i just find it somewhat ironic that a woman knitting reclined her sit and then sparked an incident of air rage. >> well, you know, it's funny because we've had so many recently. this happens to be the peak travel period after labor day. things will calm down because there's less people on the plane. there's so many causes. one is diminishing leg room and two the planes are flying at capacity. in the old days, you could count on the seat next to you being empty. the planes are almost always full and now we have these new devices. there are things that people carry on to prevent the seat in front of you from being reclined and i think it's a jerk device really because the airlines tell you if your seat isn't going to recline. if you paid for extra leg room and a recline, it's what you expect. there's a simple answer to this device that prevents seats from being reclined, that is to ban it. the faa is asleep at the switch. it's up to the airlines. >> i don't think you should recline your seats. i think that's not very thoughtful, but let's get brack to leg room getting smaller on airplan airplanes, because americans are getting bigger, leg room is getting smaller. you can see in the year 2000, there were 34 inches between the seats. now 31 inches on most airplanes, but on some airlines, with their planes, the leg room is only -- there's only 28 inches of space in between there and as you can see over time, americans have gotten bigger from 144 pounds for a woman in the 1970s to 166 pounds today and 166 pounds for men. is it any wonder that people are upset and don't the airlines realize that? >> they do. americans have gotten taller too. there's been much evidence on deep vein thrombosis. so the airlines do bear a huge amount of responsibility, particularly since they also as this -- as your report pointed out, they often exacerbate the problem. people are threatened. people are said i'm going to do this or that and the simple problem is the seats recline. the airlines tell you rekline. most of us pay extra for the extra leg room and the reclining seats because i have to work on the planes, and that's what you expect and if you aren't going to get that or they are going to have no recline seats, the simple answer is the airline just has to tell you and then people know what to expect. it's the unknown and it's the feeling like you've paid for something and you don't get it that also causes the air rage along with alcohol, number one cause, but the good news is in the united states, the tsa statistics show that air rage is not increasing. it's about the same. internationally, it is. >> well, that's good to hear. thanks for your insight. i appreciate it. still to come in the "newsroom, "-- it was the largest oil spill in u.s. history. now we're learning the price tag for the company that designed and built the oil well that failed. nowwith the virtualhe phfreedom of wi-fi. the car, chevrolet, the first and only car company to bring built-in 4g lte wi-fi to cars, trucks and crossovers. hi mom. you made it! it's the new independence. that would be my daughter -- hi dad. she's a dietitian. and back when i wasn't eating right, she got me drinking boost. it's got a great taste, and it helps give me the nutrition i was missing. helping me stay more like me. 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