Correspondent jim acosta. As i mentioned, the president s critics are warning him against pardoning stone. Have you heard any response yet from the president on his friend . Reporter not just yet, brooke, and we should point out the president is speaking live right now in las vegas. He just took the stage at an event for former prisoners who are transitioning back into the work force. This has been a subject the president has been talking about. He talked about it during the state of the union speech, prison reform, and hes going to be talking about it here. It is quite the venue, i suppose, symbolically if the president were to go ahead and announce hes offering some sort of pardon or commutation of sentence to roger stone. I will tell you, brooke, if you look at the president s twitter feed, there are some tea leaves. Just as soon as judge jackson handed down her sentence, the president tweeted his displeasure with the fact that Andrew Mccabe was not prosecuted for misleading investigators, and hes also been tweeting videos of conservative media figures saying that the president should pardon roger stone. I will tell you, ive talked to a couple of trump advisers who expect the president to do just that. Until he does it, a lot of this is a guessing game to see whether or not the president will go through with it. Lindsey graham a short while ago p put out a tweet that hes well within his right to pardon roger stone. Hes getting a lot of critics who are saying he shouldnt do this, but also a lot of people inside his orbit are urging him to do just that. Jim, thank you. Roger stone is among the long list of Trump Associates convicted of a federal crime during trumps time in the white house. Let me run through the list. You have paul manafort, trumps former Campaign Chair serving a seven and a half year sentence for tax and bank fraud. Trumps former personal Attorney Michael Cohen is serving a threeyear sentence for lying to the fbi. Former National Security adviser Michael Flynn still is waiting for his sentencing, although he is also contesting his guilty plea for lying to the fbi, and one of the men who testified against roger stone, rick gates was trumps former deputy Campaign Chair. He got 45 days in prison and three years probation for conspiracy and lying to the fbi, and finally, there is former Campaign AdviserGeorge Papadopoulos who played a key role in setting off the entire russia investigation, and he served 12 days for lying to investigators. So now for the deep dive, harry litman once served as Deputy Assistant attorney general and cnn legal analyst elie honig is a former federal prosecutor. Harry, let me start with you. Im going to give elie credit and say he called roughly four years, so we know roger stone got three years four months, whats your read on the sentence . Besides how smart elie is . I think all in all, its really creditable. Shes a good judge. She was procedurally impeccable. She went through all the considerations, and as you mentioned, she really took a stand, a public stand, against some of the nonsense that stone and trump and barr have been saying. She said you lied about matters of national, international significan significance. The truth Still Matters here. All those were important blows for justice and a credit to the federal courts. She came down ultimately a little bit light, but i think given how procedurally sound she was and how well focused on the broader question, i think its really a you know, an impeccable sentence by her today. So then elie, and well get to the judge, judge Amy Berman Jackson in just a second. You and i were chatting before and you said with regard to the prosecutors and how they handled this, the former prosecutors have withdrawn from the case, you called it a subtle counter revolt by the doj prosecutors. How do you mean . I think today was a good day for the department of justice and for the rule of law, bad day for bill barr. So what the prosecutors did, lets remember, there were two memos in this case. First, the harsh one from the actual stone prosecutors. Seven to nine years. Then there was the undercutting memo, the second one, and today everything the prosecutor said was go with the first one. Yeah. Thats the one we really men meant. They did it as subtly as they could. This was a real sentence, by the way. Thats three years, four months of realtime. That is a long time in prison, especially for a nonviolent offense. Also, you have the president out there tweeting during the sentencing hearing undercutting bill barr again as the chief Law Enforcement officer of the country doing exactly what bill barr said you have to stop doing. Whats bill barr going to do now . Whats bill barr going to do now, whats President Trump going to do now . Yeah. On the judge, one of the things she had said about roger stone during the sentencing today is that, quote, he lied to protect the president. Lied to protect the president. Is that usual for a judge in a case such as this to say that . Do you think she is perhaps predicting a president ial pardon and therefore she wants this line to forever be associated to this sentence with this criminal . Well, ill say this. She really joined the issue in an important way. She really brought home how trumps tweets are about trying to protect a guy who not just lied but lied in order to protect trump and in order to keep the truth from coming out in the whole mueller probe, and that i think will make it more of a political mall strom if he tries to pardon. By the way, my best guess is he wont try to pardon between now and november, and one reason is if he pardons stone, stone can be subpoenaed the next day and forced to testify. No more fifth amendment privilege, and i imagine that that is what congress would do. But she not only did a bottom line time, but she called the sort of the principles of justice that were at stake in a really important way that thats not all the time in a sentence, but it was perfectly appropriate for a good yujudge, and she is that to do it. Lets step back a second. I think a lot of people watching have been following this roger stone case and wondering okay, weve got the sentence today, wheres the handcuffs . Ordinarily this is where the Prosecutor Says your honor, i remained the defendant. They take away your belt and shoe laces and march you off to jail. The reason that didnt happen is because stone has a pending motion for a new trial. He says that one of the jurors against him lied during the jury selection and was improperly biased. Ooich looked at that. There is a 0. 2 chance of that motion succeeding. The judge has given him that courtesy and said were going to play out that motion before i send you to jail. How long could that take, once ma motion is denied hes going to go in. Stand by, i was just told in my ear President Trump has made his first remarks on his good friend roger stone. Lets listen. Stone and his wife whos really a terrific woman for a long time, and rogers definitely a character. Everybody sort of knows roger, Everybody Knows him, and most people like him. Some people probably dont, but i do, and i always have. Hes a smart guy. Hes a little different, but those are sometimes the most interesting, but hes a good person. His family is fantastic. Hes got a fantastic family, and theres always a reason for that, isnt there . Roger was never involved in the Trump Campaign for president. He wasnt involved. I think early on long before i announced he may have done a little consulting work or something, but he was not involved when i ran for president , and hes a person who, again, he knows a lot of people having to do with politics, his whole life is politics. Thats what he is, and its my strong opinion that the forewoman of the jury, the woman who was in charge of the jury is totally tainted. When you take a look, how can you have a person like this . She was a antitrump activist. Can you imagine this . Now, you wouldnt know about a bad jury. Anybody here know about these people know more about bad juries than everybody here including the sheriff and the mayor and everybody. They know about bad juries. Were not going to say it too much. Lets not say it in front of more cameras than this, but youre my experts, okay . No, but this is a woman who was an antitrump person, totally. Now, i dont know if this is a fak fact, but she had a horrible social media account. The things she said on the account were unbelievable. She didnt reveal that when she was choessen. Shes a very strong woman, a very dominant person. She can get people to do what she wants. She got on ask became the forewoman of the jury. And i assume they asked her a question, do you have any bias . She didnt say that, so is na a is that a defrauding of the court . You tell me. Does this undermine our fair system of justice . How can you have a person like this . Did she delete her social account . And when roger was determined by this same jury to be guilty before the judge issued a sentence and he was determined to be guilty, and she started going a little wild. She was very happy. And she started saying things that people said, thats strange. Thats strange, and then they started looking at it. How can you have a jury pool tainted so badly . Its not fair. Its not fair. And you know, its not happening to a lot of other people. Okay. Were going to pull away from this. Item number one this is the president of the United States who continues to go after justice, you know, attacking jurors, attacking judges. Elie honig just jump right in. Theres a lot to go through as often when the president speaks. We need to fact check, where do you want to again . These attacks on the foreperson of the jury are ridiculous. First of all, the foreperson of the jury on the record was asked, ran for congress, im a democrat. Jurors are not expected to be robo robots. Theyre human beings, and when this happens, judges say given that can you still judge the facts here impartially and fairly. She said yes. Roger stones lawyers could have thrown her off. You get jury strikes. They did not, fine, judge, she looks fine. For him to say shes antitrump, roger stones lawyers were like cool. They were fine with her. Bigger picture, to attack a juror, hes already attacked prosecutors, judges, thats way over the line. Jurors are civilian. You get your jury summons in the mail, you do your civic duty. You miss work, you have to find someone to watch your kids and to attack jurors, hes one step away from knocking on peoples doors and saying do you like me or not, if not im going to attack you. Weve got to draw the line somewhere. How about what he said about roger stone wasnt involved in, you know, my president ial campaign, did some consulting. I think he said wasnt involved, maybe did a little consulting. Did do a little consulting. This is what he was convicted for. A jury convicted roger stone for lying to congress. What he did is try to coordinate between the Trump Campaign and wikileaks. Thats what a jury convd him for and he was sentenced for today. I mean, so im with elie, pretty much down the line. What happened happens all the time. They knew about it. His prognostication impeccable, ill go with point two also. He also is trump attacking not just the jurors but the law. Were going to have a whole other round in a month or so. This is what the law says, this is why people can couldnt to serve, and shes going to dismiss it. In terms of his conduct as elie says, you know, its at best misleading to say he wasnt involved in the campaign. Obviously the whole point was he was trying to do the deals between russia and the campaign that mueller was unable to find in part because stone had lied. So it really, you know, sets it up completely for another legal showdown that likely he will look bad in and lose. Stand by, you two. Im told theres one more clip of the president. Lets watch. Didnt do anything in terms of the great powers bestowed upon a president of the United States. I want the process to play out. I think thats the best thing to do because id love to see roger exonerated, and id love to see it happen because i personally think he was treated very unfairly. They talk about witness tampering, but the man that he was tampering didnt seem to have much of a problem with, theyve known each other for years, and its not like the tampering that i see on television when you watch a movie. Thats called tamp ering with guns to peoples heads and lots of other things. Were going to see what it is, maybe there was tampering and maybe there wasnt. But i can tell you it was tremendous lying, really lying and leaking, classified documents that you dont know about, but they leaked classified documents. You know, there was a young sailor who took pictures of an old submarine and sent them to his mother and a friend, and they destroyed his life. I let him out. They were considered classified. Now, russia and china i guarantee you have the pictures of this submarine for a long time. The submarine was like 30 years old. They had them in the first year. They didnt have to wait for the 30th year, but this is a famous story, and they had these pictures, and they put him in jail. He sent them to his mother and to his friend. His friend was not interested in what youre thinking, and there are many other cases where documents were leaked, even accidentally. Classified documents are so important that even if theyre leaked accidentally. Now, Hillary Clinton leaked more classified documents than any human being, i believe, in the history of the United States of america. Right . And she deleted. Okay. Lets we know the truth on that latter point, i think. Lets go to the point where he said roger stone i would love to see roger exonerated. Harry, to you first, is that him basically saying i want to pardon him . I actually think thats code for ill wait until november. And especially if exoneration includes a court of appeals and supreme court. I think hes been told he cant pull the trigger on it right away. He wants to have the jury lay out. Ill be interested in what elie thinks about it. I have one very quick point. The department of justice here looks like its been buffeted by political winds back and forth and back. The reversal in court today by the same guy who had signed that second brief is a huge, i think, embarrassment for the department. Sorry, go ahead. What do you think . Yeah, i think harrys exactly right. The president wants to pardon roger stone. Someone has told him smartly if you do this, the blowback will be enormous. I think this is the theory, and when he says i want to see roger stone exonerated theres only a couple of ways that can happen. One is if the judge grants this motion based on the juror, its not going to succeed. Thats going to take time, and the other one as harry said, roger stone has a right to appeal. Thats going to take months months, six, eight, ten, 12 monts, so donald trump can say i wanted to give that whole process a chance to play out. Then ill pardon. That would also in all likelihood be after the election. He also said its not like witness tampering ive seen in the movies. Its like witness tampering is witness tampering is witness tampering. These are serious charges and convictions. And the hilarious example he gave, in the movies they put guns to peoples heads, sure, that would be witness tampering. Lets remember in this case, roger stone said to randy credico, prepare to die. Not really that far removed. The movies are awesome, but theyre not the law. Harry, go ahead, close us out. Prepare to die, it was there was a final little mf in there as well. Yeah, hes a thug, and you know, hes been a thug for 30 years, and she called him a thug, and that was a good day for justice. All right. Guys, thank you very much, harry and elie. Thanks, brooke. 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