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around. behind me you'll see where oscar martinez came with his family on sunday. he had left el salvador back in april, fleeing his country's may hem to get a better life for his family. back in april, they made that long journey up here, came here on sunday to try to apply for asylum. now, what happens was it was closed on that day. but in his frustration and desperation, he had had enough. i'm going to walk around here and show you, there's trees back here, but just on the back end of those trees is the river, the rio grande. he comes from there. they walk along the back, not very far down, he says, i'm going to go for it, he takes his daughter, he gets across, he puts her on the other side of the bank. she's only 23 months old, he says, stay there, i'm going to get mom. she jumps in the water, he goes back to get her, the current took them away. they were carried downstream. that's where the photograph was taken, his wife saw the whole thing. she's being interviewed back there in the government offices to give her side. the bodies were taken out of the river, they're at the morgue right now as we speak, we're hearing they're going to be taken back to el salvador today for burial. utterly tragic. >> we were here a week ago, we spent 8, 9 days down where they were in capachula. that's where they come from they come through that place. they got their papers to stay in mexico, this is where they wanted to be to put that application in for asylum. they didn't get it, he was close, he was desperate, couldn't take it any more. >> as i'm listening to you, i can't help but notice the sign over your right shoulder says have a good trip. 'you're telling me this horrible story of this journey of this family, can you talk a little bit more about where they come from, and what they might have been fleeing? >> well, the thing is. >> people who want to claim asylum, coming from the northern triangle countries. we're talking about guatemala, el salvador and honduras, as well, when we were down there last week, we heard horror stories from those countries. we met a family of eight. the father had been killed by gangs in honduras. the son in law didn't pay a tax to the gangs. you have 24 hours to get out or we will kill you all. they were in capachula, they spent nine days on the streets. they had no money. their next appointment for processing was a month away. it's hot, humid, it rains everafternoon. the youngest member of that family was five months old. >> he was escaping life am coulding from a dysfunctional government. these countries are dangerous. the criminal gangs, all of these three countries. there needs to be a regional solution to this. they're trying to get these nations together to talk about what they can do to try to improve the structure that holds the fabric of the society together. it's interesting too, it should be pointed out. the u.s. government used to give funds that would sponsor programs for children and government and security and things like that, the trump administration has taken those programs away, you talk to any of the human rights groups or the aide groups, that money was crucial in stopping the reasons that these people want to leave those countries in the first place. we've met so many of them. those people are still going to run, what would you do? >> michael holmes, excellent reporting, thank you for the hustle. >> we appreciate it. cnn chief political analyst gloria bore ger. we'll get into the funding battle in a second. i mean, i don't have words. do you think listening to the president a bit ago he's blaming democrats? it's ridiculous. something has to be done about immigration in this country. they've been working on it for years. there was something that passed the senate that got stuck in the house, and we all know about that. to say as the president does, that the democrats don't care about this. or that this could be solved in 15 minutes. is not really true. i think that lots of minds have gotten together to try to solve this problem in the past. and could do so right now if they could see what is really going on at the border. >> we have the photo. why is this not the turning point in. >> it might be. >> it might be. the president reacts to things visually as we know. think about syria, think about when he saw the chemical weapons attack, finally he said this cannot stand and we -- there was an attack as the response to it, it's because he saw that. he saw the children, he saw the chemical weapons. in this particular situation, you cannot look away. not if you're donald trump, not if you're nancy pelosi, or mitch mcconnell. the president was leaving on his foreign trip. said he had a conversation with nancy pelosi, she called him so these are people who -- she's trying to get something done here. there are differences between these two bills. it seems like they ought to be able to resolve them. the house bill tries to restrict how you're going to use this money. because they don't want the money spent on things they don't like like more detention beds, if you want to solve the problem, there's a way to do it, and that is to solve the problem. now, you're not going to please all the liberals in the democratic house, certainly, she had to work hard to get most of them on this measure. but it seems to me they ought to go to a conference committee pretty quickly, mitch mcconnell wants to bring his bill up in the senate. okay, great, pass your bill in the senate. get to work making sure you come out with something that can pass both houses, not after the august recess, but before. soon. quickly, and i just -- i just don't understand why they can't figure out a way to do it. i think that's what pelosi was calling the president about. >> what does it say that she called him? >> she really wants to get this done. in her caucus the other day, she kept saying, this is about the children. this is about the children. she repeated herself, and then you heard the president say that. so i think when the american public looks at these pictures and when members of congress look at these pictures and hopefully they're hearing from their constituents, because as the cliche goes, you see this, there are restrictions about cameras going to these detention facilities. you would have more pictures. >> we've had descriptions, reports, nothing quite like this. >> you don't have the cameras inside the facilities the way we would like. you have presidential candidates going to visit facilities, and whenever that happens, it just becomes part of the political discussion. there is a humanitarian discussion here right now. the president said, you know, i was right, there's a humanitarian crisis. okay, fine, let's just say that. we don't want to know who was right, who was wrong who's fault it is at this point. just get it done. and i think that's kind of where nancy pelosi is, and i think that's why she picked up the phone to the president. >> yeah, they've got to get it together. get it together. thank you so much. at least eight democratic candidates for president are spending part of their week as gloria just mentioned. here senator elizabeth warren's emotional response to the conditions that the kids there are facing. plus president trump said it's disgraceful that robert mueller has agreed to testify publicly in a couple weeks. we'll break down the urn answered questions for the former special counsel. krrn conditicnn gets an int the former iranian minister who had harsh words for president trump. this is the ocean. just listen. 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it never ends it just keeps going on and on. i've been going through this for two years, two and a half years. >> kim whalley is a former federal prosecutor and michael zeldin worked for mueller serving as his special assistant at the department of justice. welcome to both of you. what are your two burning questions for bob mueller that you want him asked? >> i think the objective has to be to convey the facts and the law clear headedly to the american public. so many of it has been sordid by the white house and the attorney general. but for this policy, would a prosecutor have -- feel that they had sufficient evidence to charge someone with obstruction of justice as a private party. that's number one, number two is to explain the difference between collusion and conspir y conspiracy. just because there's not enough evidence for conspiracy. doesn't mean there's not enough evidence for collusion, which is a political question for the congress, not for a federal judge or jury. >> what say you, sir, on the things he does not want to discuss? >> well, first i think he will not discuss speculative questions. what if the president wasn't the president. what if i don't see mueller going down that road. >> he won't be freelancing. what is my response? >> my report speaks for itself, with respect to that, this is what we said. he is the president and we're bound by olc opinion. i think that's what he'll say. if you're a democrat asking questions and you understand the american people have not read this report, you want him essentially to read the report in its most damaging aspects and that relates to obstruction of justice, mcgahn trying to fire mueller, sessions trying to capitate the investigations and firing comey and saying to him, what facts did you find as to those issues when you were doing this investigation. have them say outloud, this is what we found. and then they can argue after the fact, ah-ha, you see, this is obstruction. >> how much of this are we going to see from him just reading the report. >> he may read the report or he may have it memorized at this point where he can say volume 2, section one on this question. we write, and he says -- >> you can read the summaries, right in. >> yeah. the question of what -- even if we accept there's also been some disorganization of whether obstruction requires you actually fired mueller or took the obstructive act. he can clarify, you can obstruct by trying to do stuff, not by necessarily executing it it. people seem to think, so what, the facts are pretty much out there, he needs to tie them together to let people know, this is the implications of it legally, and then we have a -- we all have a common agreement and understanding of what it means. >> go ahead. and there is this one sentence that sits there which says, if i could have exonerated him, i would have. but i didn't. that has to be the heart of the matter, what was it in that investigation that didn't allow you to exonerate him. let's walk-through those one by one. >> how does this work logistically? he's up -- i mean, this is going to be a long day. i mean, count how many members of congress are on each of these committees? how will this work logistically? >> i think we saw it with the kavanaugh hearings. the goal of it was different, they only have a certain number of minutes per person to ask questions? >> will it be five minutes per member of congress? >> that's different from in a jury trial, can you keep asking, the lawyers can keep asking and asking, until they work through a whole thread of -- common sense argument. we're going to see snippets, speeches that don't actually get anywhere. and i think we'll see the republicans try to create some spector of wrongdoing by virtue of the existence of the very investigation. and i think people need to remember, the whole point of the special counsel was independence. that's why rob rosenstein appointed him, so it would not be politicized. i think there's going to be an attempt to politicize it anyway. hopefully mueller will hold his ground and come across as the person -- i call it like it is. balls and strikes, i'm not on team red, team blue i'm on team law. that would be a good message for the american public, even if he just reads summaries to the report. >> it will be interesting to see if he has a lengthy opening statement or they go into questions and answers. >> july 17th, circle it, highlight it, it's the day. thank you very much. we're also watching the senate very closely right now, as the vote takes place over billions of dollars to address the humanitarian crisis along the southern border. i'll speak live with a man who tried to bring supplies to a migrant shelter, only to be turned away. we'll be right back. leaves hair 15-times stronger. ♪ in just 1 use elvive revives damaged hair. people, our sales now appla new low!10 frames. at visionworks, our sales are good on over 500 frames. why are you so weird? 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>> this was not a part of elizabeth warren's original plan for the week, she made this decision at the last minute because she said that she spoke with some advocates backstage when she was having a town hall in miami last night, to remind you again, and give you a sense of where we are, this facility is a facility where unaccompanied minor children are held. they are held here until they can be placed with sponsors within the united states and according to the government. there are around 2,300 children here at the moment. and the reason that warren has been so critical of places like this, is because she says these are run by private companies, private contractors and she sees these companies as profiting off of these children and the conditions that they are having to be put through. and she said that that is not acceptable and that's why she released a plan recently, calling for the ban of all private prisons and detention centers. one of the things that i asked senator warren is about her own young grandchildren. they are here in miami to watch their grandmother debate tonight on the democratic debate stage. and i asked her, how do you talk to your own young grandchildren about this? >> my own grandchildren's father is an immigrant to the united states. and they want to understand why some children are locked up by our government. the first question i was asked is, what did they do wrong? the answer is nothing. they're just the children who are pawns in donald trump's ugly political game. >> obviously, brooke, this ended up being a sizable chunk of elizabeth warren's day today. you can imagine the hours she has left now before the debate, she's probably trying to squeeze in some last minute debate prep which she couldn't do this morning. brooke? >> we thank you very much, in homestead. my next guest says migrants who have been taken into federal custody are living in squalor. his name is austin savage, and just this weekend austin and his friends tried to donate supplies to a detention center in texas. instead, they were turned away. austin is with me now live from el paso. thank you so much for taking the time? >> no problem. thanks for having me. >> you went to this facility not once, but twice. tell me more. we went initially on sunday afternoon. we picked up about -- a little over 300 d$300 worth of suppliem a local target. mostly things like diapers, baby wipes and basic necessities, for the kids. in particular, after we were informed of the conditions they were being kept in. we picked up these supplies that were paid for by an advocate, and we went out to the facility. we arrived and the facility was pretty much on lockdown. there was a lobby area, it was closed, locked. there was no one in the front. and when you try to ring the intercome or the buzzer there was no answer. there was a help line number that was posted on the front of %-po response. essentially the entire facility was shut down. the only activity was some vehicles moves in and out through an electronic gate. there were some -- some of the vehicles saw us, we unloaded our supplies, starked them up at the front kbl i was going to ask, were you able to hand them to someone or you just let them? >> we couldn't hand them to anybody. there was zero response at the front, and the vehicles moving in and out. there were some that stopped or slowed down, they saw us or either continued on their way out from the facility or they came in on the facility, saw us. and then once they made it into their gated area, parking area. you know, i -- the group i was with, they stayed out front, we were there 30, 40 minutes, i went to try to get attention from the people on the other side of the gate. they had zero intent to talk to us. >> the story you tell is similar to that of a gentleman who shared with me, just yesterday i should point out that cnn did reach out to a former cbp adviser who told us the agency can't accept donations, because essentially it's viewed as spending, and it hasn't been appropriated by congress. but cpb told reporters yesterday, they're looking into how they can accept donations so hopefully eventually you could hand the diapers and toothbru toothbrushes to someone. at least that -- >> that's the thing that -- we were very aware that would likely be the case. we were aware that that was -- this was a policy thing that's coming down from on high, and unfortunately a lot of these people at the facility are just kind of the foot soldiers following a policy. >> you know, and the fact that they can't be delivered is kind of what's appalling, no communication about that. we went back the next day, we packed up the supplies and went back the follows day. >> nothing? >> nothing. we thought maybe because we went on a sunday, it it was a government facility. the exact same scenario on monday played out. the only difference was, there was a brand new number posted on the door to call. it said for assistance or information call this number. we called that new number and it went to an agent's voice mail, he didn't respond or call back. so we waited around again, same scenario played out eventually what we decided to do, we packed up all the stuff we took. we found the nearest shelter from a list of shelters that had been provided to us, we took it to this incredibly tiny and very overwhelmed shelter then, probably in one of the poorest communities in the entire state, but they're doing what they can. >> at least you were able to give it. exactly. out of the goodness of your own heart, a lot of folks are frustrated and feeling powerless. it's happening in their own backyards and you want to help. you can't do that. austin, thank you for am coulding on, and good on you for trying. appreciate you. >> thank you. >> thank you. president trump says iran would be selfish and stupid, if it doesn't make a deal with the united states. this after iran's foreign minister had some harsh words for president trump in an exclusive interview with cnn. prosecutors reveal a possible cause for the fire that ravaged notre dame's cathedral. wit looks like jill heading offe on an adventure. jill has entresto, a heart failure medicine that helps her heart so she can keep on doing what she loves. in the largest heart failure study ever, entresto was proven superior at helping people stay alive and out of the hospital. it helps improve your heart's ability to pump blood to the body. don't take entresto if pregnant; it can cause harm or death to an unborn baby. don't take entresto with an ace inhibitor or aliskiren or if you've had angioedema with an ace or arb. the most serious side effects are angioedema, low blood pressure, kidney problems, or high blood potassium. ask your doctor about entresto, for heart failure. where to next? 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>> parden? >> this amendment. i want to hear about this amendment you're co sponsoring, right? >> yes. >> it would prohibit funding for military action in iran unless the president gets congressional approval beforehand. i want to know from people who may not know, this amendment is offered by congressman rokana and matt gaetz, a trump supporter. how did you and your colleagues come together in a bipartisan way. >> for me it started when -- secretary pompeo was testifying before the senate, and he said that there's all these connections between iran and al qaeda. i fired off a letter to him and said what, there are no connections like that, please show us the evidence. he hasn't come forth with any. our republican colleagues are concerned about these kinds of things too. i introduced a piece of legislation with republican co sponsors, the iran clarification act to say, you don't have authorization to go to war with iran. now that we're passing this -- about to pass this must pass appropriation for defense, we are putting in there language that says, you do not have authorization to go to war with iran, if you want to do that, you have to follow the constitution, come to the congress of the united states and b, we're not going to give you any funds to do it either. that really is a bipartisan feeling. i think it's because it doesn't matter whether you're a democrat or a republican. when you're here in the people's house, you want to uphold the constitution and our prerogative as the part of the government that declares war. and we don't see a reason for war, and we don't want the president to go off doing it in a hotheaded kind of way. >> i would be remiss not to ask you, i'm sure you've seen the photo, president trump was asked about this photo regarding the migrant crisis, the father and his 23-month-old. the president responded by saying, that father who probably was this wonderful guy with his daughter -- things like this wouldn't happen, he said, if we're going on to blame the democrats for their asylum policy. he's blaming your party for this. how would you respond to the president? >> the president's policies on immigration have led to this humanitarian crisis. he's the one whose caged children, he's the one who separated families, ripped children out of their parents arms, he's the one who had these horrifying detention camps for children, where we had 8-year-olds taking care of 2-year-olds, toddlers running around without diapers, no toothbrushes, no soap. kids who are wearing the same clothes unwashed that they were wearing when they came across the border. he has no one to blame for this but himself. he's making it worse by cutting off aide to the central american countries where these folks are coming from. this father and daughter were salvadoran. why has donald trump stopped working with el salvador so that people don't flee to our country? and brooke, let me make one other really fundamental point about our most deep beliefs in this country and about human rights, people under international law have the right to put forth an asylum claim. this father and daughter were trying to claim asylum with his wife as well. they approached the border. because of the president's policies, they were taken away from the border and put in a mexican detention camp, they felt no hope that they'd ever be able to present themselves to our government to make their asylum claim, so this father and his -- actually, his wife was there too watching them drown. it's just so horrifying, as a parent to even think about this, my point is simply this. you can expect more of this to happen as long as we have these inhumane policies at the border. we've got to stop it, we're taking action here as you've seen to fund the cbp and hhs to move these kids more quickly out of those detention camp into the places where people know how to take care of them, they should be united with their families, we have to do a lot better. we know how to do better, we're going to do better. >> i appreciate you saying that. left, right, center, action needs to be taken and we all need to be doing better for people like this father and this child. congressman levin, thank you very much. >> thank you, brooke. a war of words erupting between the president and the u.s. women's soccer team. how another player has responded to his attacks after megan says she's not going to the fing white house? 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