Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With Brooke Baldwin 201812

Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With Brooke Baldwin 20181212

Fired back saying this to the judge saying today is one of the most meaningful days of my life. I have been living in a personal and mental incarceration ever since the day that i accepted the offer to work for a real estate mogul whose business acumen that i deeply admired. The father of two then added he was committed to, quote, ensuring that history will not remember me as the villain of his story. Cohen also brought up this recent insult from the president. Hes a weak person and by being weak, unlike other people that you watch, hes a weak person and what hes trying to do is get a reduced sentence. Michael cohen said trump was correct in calling hmm weim, we adding but for a much different reason he was implying. It was because time and time again i felt it was my duty to cover up his dirty deeds. Lets start with carasca oscane. Why three years . Reporter he pleaded guilty in an agreement with the government. They use the math that you get to this number of this range where he was facing between four to five years in prison. You know, cohen and his lawyers said that, you know, he really shouldnt serve any time because hes trying to make amends, hes cooperating with the investigation, with the special counsels office, but the u. S. Attorneys said, hey, hold on, these are serious crimes, this is tax evasion. Youre lying to a bank amid Campaign Finance violations and the judge ultimately agreed with them. He said he wanted to encourage cooperation, which is why we see him serving 36 months, three years, less than the potential four to five years, but he also said given the importance of the special counsels investigation, that Michael Cohen lied to congress, that these crimes needed to be faced with deterrence. He wanted to deter other people from lying in such highprofile events. He said democracy and our Democratic Institutions depended on people cooperating and being truthful when working with the government. He said he committed crimes far on his own that were very serious in and of their own and thats why cohen deserved to serve three years in prison, let it be a message to other people out there, brooke. Three years. He goes to prison in march. Lets take a deep dive in all of this. Attorney general berit berger and you, sir, you called it, three years. Yeah. Lucky guess. I think we saw the perfect en encaps lags of his wirise and fall. I cooperated but kind of, not really. I take full responsibility but everything i did was for the president. It was a bad day for Michael Cohen. It was also a bad day for the president. He got blamed a lot. We call it the empty chair phenomenon, you blame the guy who is not there to defend themselves. That said, all the things that Michael Cohen said reflect badly on the president. The sdny didnt mince words but mueller said he did speak the truth, said he was cooperative, he doesnt go to prison until march. Might he continue to cooperate in that time . He might. Everyone heard cohen was first pleading guilty and was in a cooperative stance. People had high hopes. They say think of the cases he could break open. I think after todays sentencing, in my mind its unlikely that his continued cooperation would be significant. Thats for a few reasons. One, its harder to use a cooperating witness after theyve been sentenced because your leverage over them has been weakened and, two, the Southern District of new york went out pretty far on a limb in saying he had this pattern of deception, that he had been engaged in all of these lies. It is harder to call somebody as a cooperating witness when their history of lying and deception has been highlighted for a court. As you were telling me yesterday, its like sdny, its all or nothing. You fully, fully cooperate or deuces, youre off to prison. We dont play around, yeah. Lawyers for cohen told the judge that cohen thought trump was going to shut down the Mueller Investigation. And so that is whether essentially cohen goes to mueller and is like, whoa, whoa, whoa, ill cooperate. That is significant. So, yes. I would immediately be on the phone with cohens lawyer and say you say he wants to be a good boy and cooperate, lets hear about that. How do you know that . Right. What was being said . That argument didnt ring true for me. If the argument was i, Michael Cohen, believed that the president was about to shut it down so i cooperated, but he didnt fully cooperate. The Southern District made a point of saying he declined to go into certain areas. Are you the hero or not . Bigger picture, as weve learned, as he said he had talked to the white house before talking to congress. We know manafort had talked to the white house as recent as the spring, as he was, quote unquote, what we thought at the time cooperating and it leads one to wonder what was going on. We should also just remind everyone that cohen is still cooperating and the investigation is to the Trump Organization, trump tower meeting and things that would directly impact trump. Cohens lawyers compared this moment to watergate, seeing him as a john dean type. The judge is reminding everyone and we were tacking abolking ab tough this judge is, no, hes not the hero. Is it possible that he could in a sense rewrite history so that he isnt the villain in the end . I think thats definitely what his intent was in doing all of this and he was trying to get in front of all this. I think his position as a lawyer played a really significant role in his sentencing today. When the judge talked about how he is held to a higher standard, Michael Cohen himself talked about how he had this Blind Loyalty to trump. All of which is to say that Blind Loyalty is really the one thing that a lawyer is not supposed to have with their client. There are high ethical and legal guidelines for lawyers as to how theyre supposed to interact with their client. Blind loyalty is not one of them. Youre there to advise and counsel, not to help facilitate criminal plans. We know that cohens lawyers went after trump. The question now is how does trump respond . We saw trump last week saying throw the book at him. In that reuters interview last night, trump said, number one, it wasnt a campaign contribution. If it were, its only civil. And even if its only civil, there is no violation based on what we did. We did. Hes all over the map. He didnt know about it, now he knew about it, now its something we did. Ultimately i think the wagons are circling on the president here. The news that just came out is that the Southern District has immunized ami, which was the vehicle. Were about to get to that. That was the vehicle for one of the payments. If you sort of do the math here, cohen convicted, pled guilty, pecker and weiselberg immunizei, and ami, corporate, who is left in this . The president. The person standing in the middle is the president. Is the Southern District gearing up to indict the president . I doubt it. But this Campaign Financing is a growing problem for the president. Hang with me. You just hit on what were going to be talking about. The other breaking development, the Parent Company of the National Enquirer, ami, reaching a deal with the prosecutors over hush money. Also ahead, british Prime Minister theresa may is really in the fight for her political life. A secret vote to decide whether she will stay or remain is under way right now. We will get the very latest for you live from london. Youre watching cnn. Im brooke baldwin. Of that sexy italian boot so this Holiday Season its ancestrydna per tutti order your kit now at ancestry. Com whenshe was pregnant,ter failed, inlaws were coming, a little bit of water, it really it rocked our world. I had no idea the amount of damage that water could do. We called usaa. And they greeted me as they always do. Sergeant baker, how are you . They were on it. It was unbelievable. Having insurance is something everyone needs, but having usaa now thats a privilege. Were the bakers and were usaa members for life. Usaa. Get your insurance quote today. We are back. Youre watching cnn. Im brooke baldwin. It is tied to hush money payments. Prosecutors say Michael Cohen coordinated for President Trump, the Parent Company of the National Enquirer has cut a deal, requiring ami to own up to the deal with karen mcdougal, the president s mistress. Brian, first to you. On this American Media, this is the owner of the National Enquirer. He also own as bunch of other magazines like mens fitness and very well known for their protrump position. During the campaign, this magazine was unabashedly antihillary and pro trump and they were working to support trumps candidacy to help him get elected through these catchandkill deals. The magazine denied ever paying someone, buying off a story to pay off someon for donald trump. Most troubling for the president , theyve cooperated, supported Michael Cohens account and they will continue to cooperate in the future. Translation from a lawyer, this cooperation from ami means what . Like you said, its a corporate cooperation agreement. This is a mechanism that a company cant be sent to jail but they can be held accountable. If youre not going to indict a corporation, one way to resolve a case is by a nonprosecution agreement. Usually this will have a Fine Associated with it and terms such as continued cooperation. Here it looks like ami has agreed to provide information. Who are they talking to . Theyre talking to the prosecutors. This is muellers team . Yes. Youll sometimes hash out certain specific terms. Ami admits it makes the 150,000 payment in concert with a candidates president ial campaign and that the principal purpose in making the payment was to suppress the womans story to prevent it from influencing the election. So one more strong piece of evidence, we just saw the president s tweets where he said it wasnt campaign related, on top of cohen and circumstantial evidence, you have the company saying this was for the president and to influence the election. Ami is also saying theyve agreed to be basically more ethical in the future. You have a supermarket tabloid agreeing to terms with the Southern District of new york it will abide by norms involving Campaign Finance in the future. An interesting twist. Most importantly on a personal level, American Media is owned by david pecker, david pecker hangs out with donald trump all the time, going to maralago. There were questions of what other stories might they have covered up over the years . We dont know. But the prosecutors know. A secret vote under way on british Prime Minister theresa may. Richard quest is with me next. And another wild interview with the president , admitting these payments plus calling the fact that 16 of his associates had contact with russia, quote unquote, peanut stuff. Opportunity is everywhere. Like here. Where nothing stands between you and your best friends. Can you feel it theres endless fun with great toys and games for everyone at amazon, with low prices and Free Shipping on millions of items. For everything you need this holiday, visit amazon. But he has plans today. So he took aleve this morning. Hey dad. If hed taken tylenol, hed be stopping for more pills right now. Only aleve has the strength stop tough pain for up to 12 hours with just one pill. Tylenol cant do that. Aleve. All day strong. All day long. 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But just when the u. K. And eu are close to reaching ing ing a agreement to finalize their exit, theresa mays own party move to show her to the door. Shes in contempt of parliament. Her behavior today is contemptuous of this parliament and of this process mr. Speaker, the Prime Ministers appalling behavior needs to be held to account. He couldnt care less about brexit. He wants to bring down the government, create uncertainty, sow division and crash our economy. The biggest threat, the biggest threat to people and to this country isnt leaving the eu, its a corbin government so theresa may needs a majority of her own party to believe she is the right person for the job to hang in there. So lets start here with Cnn International diplomatic editor nic robertson, hes outside 10 downing street where the Prime Minister lives and works. There are three potentially scenarios. Walk me through them. Reporter theres one scenario where she fails in this vote. Theres another scenario where she gets the 159 votes plus a couple more that are required, the 159 is a simple majority. Thats the threshold, that she gets just a few more or she gets 159 plus a lot more, maybe a hundred more, and that would really if that happened, that would really consolidate her as a Prime Minister supported by her party, ready to go back to europe and get more on the deal, not that much more is on offer. If its that second option where its a tiny bit more than the simple majority, then she looks like a very weak leader. That was perhaps why she made that concession before the seek contract ballot saying that she wouldnt lead the party into the next expected general election 2022. The first scenario where i said she loses the vote, then you have a leadership race. That takes weeks to put into place. That delays think aany of the it negotiations on brexit. A new leader will want a new deal. There simply isnt a way to deliver that before you get to the current deadline, 29th of march, britain potentially crashes out with no deal and all the economic consequences which could be quite selfhere if that were to happen, brooke. I know this has been such a headache for so many people where you, nic robertson, perfectly laying out these scenarios. Now for more analysis, richard quest, anchor of quest means business. Two days ago you sat in that chair when she delayed that vote and you said shes totally going to survive. Do you still believe that . Tonight, yeah. I could be proven wrong. The result will come out in an hour and a half from now. Nic sums it up is it a small majority or large majority. A small majority shes a teetering leader and a big majority she can go back to europe and say its time to give me more. I know we had a deal but give me more. What if she is teetering . If she falls, if she falls, the first thing that has to happen is an extension of the a article 50, the deadline. Theres no way can you put everything for the tory party, the British Government and europe all in place. Theres what would happen. I was just watching very closely the question time in parliament. Watching what you just played, Jeremy Bennett and theresa may. I thought yesterday you and i were talking about senator schumer, speaker pelosi, donald trump, mike pence somewhere over there in the background and the way they were going at it in the oval office. This felt reminiscent of that . Completely. For the first time americans saw exactly what british do every week in parliament. And its healthy for each person in power to have somebody else say youre wrong. Its so rare we actually see that in front of cameras around here. Yeah, it was great. Lastly, a bunch of americans. Would it be possible depending what happens with theresa may that brexit couldnt go through . Its happening march 29th, correct . It is but you may delay it, a second referendum. I would say if everything collapsed, if parliament couldnt come to any solution, if there was no other way out, then labor would probably demand and maybe the torys would have to give a peoples vote. Possible, probably, likely perhaps. Ticktock, ticktock, weve got 90 minutes before theresa may learns her fate. Back

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