Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With Brooke Baldwin 201811

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sunny or was it rainy? he said it may have been a good day, it was rainy, therefore, he told a lie, he perjured himself. okay? so you have to always be careful when you answer questions with people that probably have bad intentions. it didn't take very long to do them and they were my answers. i don't need lawyers to do that. now, you need lawyers for submittal, you need lawyers to go over some of the answers, but they're not very difficult questions. >> and before that disclosure president trump spoke of just how happy he is at the white house after a reporter said he appeared, quote, agitated as indicated by his stream of tweets he sent just yesterday, slamming the mueller probe. >> no i'm not agitated. it's a hoax. they should have never been any mueller investigation because there was never anything done wrong, there was no collusion, there never has been. you would have known about it a long time ago if there was. there was nothing -- they should have never had it. they've wasted millions and millions of dollars. they should have never been a so-called investigation, which in theory it's not an investigation of me, but as far as i'm concerned i like to take everything personally because you do better that way. the witch-hunt, as i call it, should never have taken place. it continues to go on. i imagine it's ending now, from what i hear it's ending, and i'm sure it will be just fine. >> let's go to the white house and cnn's jeff zeleny. jeff, the president says he hears that the probe s quote, ending now. do we know where he's getting that from? >> reporter: well, ana, good afternoon. i mean, clearly the president believes this is nearing an end. he's hearing that from his lawyers who are working with the special counsel's team on all of this. i mean, one central question hanging over this entire investigation, i mean, for indeed months, is is the president -- was the president going to sit down face-to-face with bob mueller. when he decided against that he decided to answer some written questions here. now the president confirmed for the first time that he is done answering those, but says they have not been submitted. he obviously has reason to believe that this investigation at least the first phase of it is nearing an end, but look at just what he is he's been saying and tweeting more importantly all week long. it's clear that he knows more than we do at this point, that he has a sense of if not where this is going, when this report is going to be issued. so the president was not clear on his timing there, but he said he believes it's coming to an end, so he certainly hears more from his lawyers than we hear publicly because the special counsel is the only one in washington who has not said a thing about this entire investigation, but just judging by the president's actions and words and mood this week, it seems to be nearing a finish. now, the question is when that will be and what that will be, more importantly. will there be any collusion found? never mind the obstruction of justice. but the president there putting a voice to some of the things he has been thinking about behind the scenes and tweeting about yesterday. >> and, again, emphasis on the answers being to the earlier point the question of collusion, not about obstruction of justice. >> only collusion. >> who knows where that part of the investigation is right now. we don't have any clues necessarily. jeff zeleny, thank you for that update. let's discuss this further, joining me now article bernstein, the pulitzer prize winning veteran journalist who helped break the watergate story. it's always an honor and pleasure to have your insight with us. carl, what's your reaction to president trump's assessment of mueller's questions calling them easy to answer and emphasizing that he answered them, not his lawyers? >> well, they go from him to his lawyers, so what will be submitted to the special counsel will be submitted and vetted by his lawyers. so i wouldn't put too much stake in what president trump is saying there, he's spinning something a certain way. i think that what is particularly interesting, with he should not get out in front of our skis right now and speculate about where this probe is beyond what we know. he may well be getting information from the new acting attorney general, mr. whitaker. he wanted whitaker in this position because trump has been driven crazy by the fact that he does not know what's going on in mueller's investigation. he now has in whitaker eyes and ears, a spy, as it were, who can look into the investigation and presumably, i don't know this is a fact, but it's been suggested to me by people in the white house, that mr. whitaker has a way of getting back to the white house or to mr. trump or the lawyers and say, here is where the investigation stands from what i am able to see with this new pair of eyes and no one in your orbit, mr. president, has had a good look before. so that may be part of the equation. >> do you think that's where his tweets came from yesterday, then? >> i can't speculate. >> yeah. >> i think we need to back off the speculation. i think what's important about his tweets are to follow them from election day to the present. what we see in those tweets is a rage-a-holic president who is becoming enraged day by day, who is lashing out anything and everything near and around him, to an extent that even in this president we have not seen it at this level and with this kind of sustained over the top tenor that we have seen in the last week. there must be some reasons for it. now, he says here he's happy being president. i have no doubt that that's the truth. he is happy and he's settled into the job in i think a way that he finds somewhat comfortable, but part of that comfort is to appeal only to his base, not to the country as a whole, not to be the president of all the united states. to lash out and to govern by fear, by intimidation, by dog whistling racist pronouncements, et cetera, et cetera. that's where we are. but what we have seen is a sustained rage, such as we've never seen, and perhaps it's ending today. he seems to be in a better mood perhaps today. you know, we are not doctors taking his temperature every day. >> well, we all can listen to what he says and take what we can from that. >> right. >> so when we talk about mueller, he talks about mueller talking about the questions, they are easy to answer, but he also said even if there's some trickery, implying there is some, i guess, nefarious, you know, intent in some fashion and we also heard from rudy giuliani according to the "washington post" telling them, quote, that some of the questions create more issues for us legally than others, he called some questions unnecessary, irrelevant and possible traps. >> well, i think that's right. also in a daily caller interview we see how upset trump is at what he is being asked about because it goes to questions of collusion or conspiracy to undermine with others our electoral process. but what we see repeatedly is the president of the united states saying there's no collusion when, in fact, we have no basis of knowing whether or not there is no collusion found by mueller, nor do we think that he has any basis of knowing what mueller has in this regard. what we can see in the last few days, though, is he seems to be unraveling and that unraveling is taking place against huge spills of information in the, quote, collusion area. so something perhaps has been introduced into what he is seeing and hearing up until today that has exercised him on this question. he is determined to convince his base and the rest of the congress of the united states that there is no collusion, even if there is collusion. so we have to wait and see what's going to happen here. >> he is a master of marketing, of branding, of putting out a message that seems to stick. he also, we know, values loyalty and so he gets rid of jeff sessions because he didn't recuse himself -- because he recused himself, rather, and didn't tell him he was going to be recusing himself. he appoints whitaker who is described as a loyalist and now there's "new york times" reporting that trump has been asking people about whether the vice president, mike pence, is loyal to him to which the white house says the president supports pence and thinks he is doing an incredible job. this comes as senior administration officials tell our jake tapper that, quote, in this administration there are arsonists and there are firefighters. the president is looking to get rid of the firefighters, the more he does the faster his administration is going to burn down. how do you think mike pence fits into that? is he an arsonist or is he a firefighter? >> i think when people like jake happener and maggie haberman are hearing what they are hearing that there's usually whack to the arson equation there's usually fire where there's smoke. that there indeed is talk about pence initiated by the president, i think that's very clear, and nothing is a sure thing in this white house. what is less sure than anything are what the president's words mean. they mean very little in terms of truthfulness, they mean very little in terms of everything except perhaps looking at him in a kind of barometer fashion. >> taking his temperature. >> his words, et cetera, et cetera, despite what i said. but we don't know, and i don't think trump knows, you know, is pence going to be on the ticket? i think it probably depends on the situation going into the election. we are a long way from 2020 and that election. mr. trump is a long way from knowing what his standing is going to be among the people of the united states of america because right now as we saw in these elections his standing with the people of the country has suffered in the past few weeks. he is aware of it. that's one of the things that figures in this lashing out. he also has lashed out at the press yet again and we have the very important decision in the cnn case, which this network rightly filed, to ensure that the first amendment obtains in the way that the press has access to the president. there's a decision today upholding the first step of that. >> that's right. >> but he's infuriated above that as well. so we are back to the rage-a-holic president. >> carl bernstein, good to have you with us. we always appreciate your experience and expertise. kellyanne conway's husband calls the trump administration a dumpster fire. that is a quote. hear his no holed barred interview next. happening now the house ethics committee issuing judgment against two members of congress involved in sexual harassment related complaints. details on that next. nancy pelosi coming face-to-face with critics within her own party. one of them is a congresswoman who made challenge pelosi for the speakership role. here what happened next. being detected was not an option. if i was recognized the whole operation was blown. the element of surprise was imperative. wow. he won't even recognize you. seriously. i don't even recognize myself. and thanks to my cashrewards credit card from navy federal with never-expiring rewards it's gonna be a killer honeymoon. woo! maui!! boom navy federal credit union. our members, are the mission. we're watching developments on capitol hill at this hour where house democratic leader nancy pelosi just met with prominent democratic critics today including a congresswoman who is considering challenging pelosi for speaker of the house. cnn is on capitol hill. i understand you had a chance to speak with congresswoman marcia fudge who met with pelosi, also may challenge her for her leadership. what are you hearing. >> reporter: it was an intriguing meeting earlier today and i spoke with the congresswoman shortly after meeting with throwsy privately, she said that she went into pelosi's office today and made it clear that she is considering potentially challenging her in the run to be the next speaker of the house. that she has not made up her decision yesterday and said the conversation with pelosi was essentially pelosi saying to her what do i have to do to get you to a yes? marcia fudge left that meeting saying she is not discouraged from running for speaker but she is not encouraged, either. here is what she said earlier today. >> the meeting went very well, we had a very open and frank discussion. so i feel good about the meeting. certainly i talked about the growing support that i have and why i'm considering a bid to run for speaker. you know, she was -- to her credit, she wanted to know what my concerns were, we discussed them, and we had a very open and frank conversation. obviously i discussed the issues that i have, but certainly said that i wanted to think about it for some more and talk about it. >> is there anything that you need specifically from her? did you walk in with think -- >> we talked about some succession planning, with he talked about some other things. i think that the biggest issue that we discussed was the feeling in the caucus of feeling who are feeling left out and left behind. so that was my biggest thing. i'm an advocate for the members this have caucus as well as i'm an advocate for the american people. so i just want to be sure that we are moving the caucus in a direction that the american people want to see it go and that members of our caucus will feel good about it. >> reporter: one thing very notable from what she said there, a small part where she said she specifically wanted pelosi to put in front her succession plan. that's important because a lot of democrats here not coming around to supporting nancy pelosi, they want a new generation of leaders or they want some prom skes from pelosi on how long she potentially would stay in speaker. fudge asking would it be in you have in pelosi said this last session of congress would be her last and she said, yes, absolutely, that would be enough to get her support. and whether or not she runs key to nancy pelosi's future as the next speaker up here because as of now she does not have anyone running against her. she has a lot of pressure from a lot of people up here on capitol hill to potentially, you know, have someone else in the bid in the mix. we know that group of small group, but important group of about 18 house democrats who are saying we want someone else. ana. >> i do remember nancy pelosi prior to the election saying the idea of her being a transitional speaker was something she would be willing to consider, floating that out there, without providing details. thanks for staying on top of it for us. we have this just into cnn, the house ethics committee issuing judgment against two members of congress involving sexual harassment-related complaints, one of them is a ep radio, the other a democrat. i want to bring in mj lee, cnn's national political correspondent to tell us more. fill us in. >> so two members of congress have been reprimanded by the house ethics committee in two separate reports, the first report involving congressman mark meadows, he is a republican from north carolina, for failing to take prompt and decisive action to deal with alleged sexual harassment in his office. now, all of this has to do with his former chief of staff, his name is kenny west, and the report says that his behavior was, quote, inappropriate in every sense of the word. now, making matters worse, according to this report from the house ethics committee is the fact that congressman meadows did not terminate west. this is the former chief of staff, but rather demoted him to the title of senior advisor, and then continued to pay him even though the report says there was little evidence that he was actually performing official duties. now, congressman meadows is being required to pay back the $40,000 that he actually continued paying this former chief of staff to the treasury department. i just want to read a key portion of this report regarding congressman meadows, here it is, there is no place in any congressional office for looking up skirts or down skirts, staring at a woman's chest, unwanted touching or making sexual comments, even if subtle or in jest. then it goes on to say just as between members and their staff, a power imbalance exists between senior staff and junior staff in congressional offices. this i thought was such a good reminder that sexual harassment on capitol hill does not just involve members, sometimes it can be between staff. obviously, ana, this is politically significant because congressman meadows is not some junior member in the house, he obviously has a lot of clout. he is the chair of the house freedom caucus and he is also a key ally to president trump. moving on to the second report that came out from the house ethics committee, this involves democrat ruben cuwin a congress from nevada. he is not seeking reelection so he will not be coming back. this is an important report involving his own actions. that he was himself accused of sexual harassment and the report says that he made persistent and unwanted advances towards women that he worked with and, again, in this report, too, it says that there is an inherent power imbalance when members romantically pursue individuals who have to work with them. i just want to read a key portion of the statement that we just got from congressman cuwin as well. it says after much reflection and introspection i recognize regardless of the fact that i never intended to make anyone feel uncomfortable or disrespected what matters is how my actions were perceived by the women who came forward. i extend my sincere apologies to each of these women. obviously, ana, we know and we have discussed this a lot on our air, theres a lot more work to be done when it comes to sexual harassment on capitol hill and how that is reported and treated, but obviously these two reports are very significant in that they address the actions or the lack of actions taken by these two members of congress. >> it goes to show that this issues sees no political sides. >> exactly. >> it's bipartisan in terms of the issue affecting all parties, all people. in all fairness i want to read a statement we just got from congress meadows, as you were walking us through the allegations, again, pertaining to a staff member of his and he says three years ago i asked the committee on ethics to review the matter surrounding the alleged conduct of my former chief of staff mr. west and i am thankful their review has now concluded. i appreciate the committee's acknowledgment of the immediate, appropriate and good faith steps i did take after learning of my staff's concerns, including immediately separate the chief from the accuser so they never had to interact with him personally during the independent investigation. he goes on to say, making sure my team feels safe and secure in our office is the highest priority for me and i'm truly sorry for any stress this situation caused them. i thank the ethics committee for their work in resolving this and my office will remain committed to serving western north carolinians every day to the west of our ability. so that's that. thank you, mj, for your reporting. so the husband of one of the president's top advisers says the administration is, quote, a dumpster fire. hear his wild interview next. plus, a trump-appointed judge rules in favor of cnn, ordering the white house to reinstate jim acosta's trespass. hear what happens next. hi. i'm paul. i switched to sprint because they have a great network and i knew i'd save a ton of money. sprint's nationwide lte advanced network is now up to 2x faster than when i switched. and their total lte coverage is 30% larger. that's big news!! don't forget unlimited. sprint's unlimited can save you nearly $1000 in the first year over verizon and at&t. just think what you can do with all that extra money. 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[ neighing ] [ neighing ] [ sigh ] it's bring your own phone, not pony. so i could've taken the bus? yeah. bring your phone. switch your carrier. save hundreds a year with xfinity mobile. call, click or visit a store today. the white house says it will tremp rarely reinstate cnn chief white house correspondent jim acosta's press today. today a federal judge sided with cnn saying the white house was wrong in revoking it. this ruling is an initial victory for cnn in its lawsuit against president trump and several top aides. while the judge did not rule on the underlying case, he said he believes cnn and acosta are likely to prevail. with us now to discuss, cnn chief media correspondent and host of "reliable sources" on sundays at 11:00 on cnn, brian stelter. so this is round one. >> yes, round one, but we don't know how many more rounds there will be. this could conclude pretty quickly if the white house recognizes today's loss, accepts it and decides to settle. however, if the white house continues to fight on, if it wants to battle in court, the cnn lawyer in this case told me cnn is ready to continue litigating for as long as it takes. this ruling today from the judge, as you said, it was a limited ruling on fifth amendment grounds. due process basically. meaning that acosta's press pass was taken away without due process, without giving him a chance to be aware of the decision, without a chance to appeal. so now the president, president trump, is saying he's going to come up with some rules, some regulations, this way in the future if he wants to kick somebody out he can cite the rules and regulations. so it is unclear how this is going to go. if the white house is going to put up a big fight here, if they want to take this all the way through a court process, or if they want to acknowledge today's loss and cnn's victory and kind of quietly resolve this. my sense from the white house's statements today is that they recognize this was a defeat and they probably want to quietly resolve this, but i think a lot of people will still be on heightened alert in news rooms because now that trump has tried to do this once with acosta, he has opened himself up to doing it again in the future, he has indicated he might want to try to do this in the future. in response on fox today he said if a reporter miss behaves in the future we will kick them out or end the news conference. it means he may want to flirt with this idea in the future. >> brian, thank you. now to the white house marriage intriguing much of washington, i'm not talking about the president and first lady, i'm not talking about ivanka and jared, i'm talking about kellyanne and george conway. kellyanne counselor to the president is a frequent face of the white house on television while her husband writes an in opposition to president trump. well, now for the first time he's talking about it in a yahoo news podcast. listen. >> i'm filling out the financial forms and it's like -- you know, it's like -- i forget what part-time or year it was, it was like late april and i'm thinking, man, i'm watching this thing and it's like the administration is like a [ bleep ] show in a dumpster fire. and i'm like, i don't want to do that. i don't know. i don't think she likes it, about but i don't -- i've told her i don't like, you know, the administration, so it's even, you know, it's one of these things. if i had a nickel for everybody in washington who disagreed with their spouse about something that happens in this town, i wouldn't be on this podcast, i'd be probably on a beach somewhere. and the fact of the matter is when it comes down to things we disagree about, i mean, we agree on most policy things, i mean, virtually all ever, it's just, okay, so this is the one thing we really disagree about. and my view was he was the lesser evil. >> is that still your view? >> i don't know. i don't know. you know, if i had to -- you know, i don't know. i just don't know. if faced with the choice again i'd probably move to australia. >> that last answer, a response to the question would you vote for trump again. you voted for him and that's what he said. so maybe regrets. joining us now ben terrace who is a reporter for the "washington post." ben, i'm glad to talk to you because you have some good insight into this couple and their marriage, you are one of the first journalists to do an in-depth interview with the conways, what stood out to you from this new interview? >> what stood out to me was that george conway was willing to do it. i spent time with him and kelly an over the summer, but other than that he really has not done a lot of interviewing, he hasn't been on television, he hasn't gone on the radio. he kind of likes to be behind the scenes, he likes to -- he likes to be alongside the action and not in front of a camera. so the fact that he was willing to do an hour and 24 minute interview and have his voice out there calling the administration a dumpster fire was the most interesting thing to me. >> how do you think kellyanne is react to go that? >> i'm sure she's not happy. when i spent time with hershey told me that she finds it disrespectful when george tweets negative things about the president, she said it was like almost akin to going against marriage vows, that's how disloyal it could seem at times. she said it made the kids upset and so if that's how she feels about when he's tweeting, i imagine that when he's out there actually speaking on the record it probably does not make her too happy. >> being so publicly in opposition of each other when it comes to trump, what do you think their end game is? >> that's a good question. when i talked to george he said to me that, you know, when this is all over and when she's no longer working for the president anymore, whenever that may be, that he will dance a happy jig and he thinks things will go back to normal. in the clip you played he said that they agree on most things and i think that's true, but this is a really big thing to not agree on. so i imagine it is stressful and it is a difficult thing to deal with, but, you know, like he said there's lots of disagreements in washington and people find a way. >> ben, good to have you with us. thank you. >> thanks. desperation in overdrive, my next guest has only slept for 30 minutes at a time for the last week as he tries to protect his neighborhood from one of knows deadly wildfires still raging in california. a story we thought we could all feel good about turns out to be one big fat lie. we were among the many news outlets that told the story of a woman and her boyfriend starting a go fund me page after the woman says a homeless man gave her his last 20 bucks when she ran out of gas. kate mcclure and mark d'amico say they wanted to repay johnny bob bet jr. for his kindness. here is mcclure plagues the good samaritan on good morning america. >> what if we started a go fund me for this guy just to get him -- you know, to get him off of the streets even for a weekend? >> this story tugged at our heart strings, people flooded the go fund me account with small donations until it brought in more than $400,000. police closed in, though, after the couple and that homeless man started feuding and he sued them. new jersey prosecutors announced it was a fraud. >> d'amico, mcclure and bob bet conspired to pass off a fake, feel good story that would compel donors to contribute to their cause and it worked in a very big way, but it was fictitious and illegal and there are consequences. >> all three were arrested this week. it turns out that homeless man according to prosecutors, he was in on this. >> let me say this about johnny bob bet, he deserves our appreciation for his willingness to serve our country as a united states marine, but it is imperative to keep in mind that he was fully complicit with this scheme to defraud contributors promoting the campaign in multiple media appearances and posing with d'amico and mcclure for a philadelphia enquirer story in front of a gas station that he did not buy gas from. >> i want to bring in elie honig and jennifer rodgers. so happy friday, guys. >> you, too. >> isn't this lovely? i thought this was a happy feel good story, with he all did, but the thing is, jennifer, they may have gotten away with all of this had they not had this internal feud that exposed themselves. >> yeah, it makes you think they should even have taken it a step further and come up with a picture of some random homeless guy and not enlisted him in this scheme. this is often how it happens, you know, you have people who are committing a low level crime and then they want to take it a step further and a step further to up the stakes and that's when they get caught. it's not unusual. >> the couple texted etch auto other, they texted friends admitting the fraud. i mean, what? >> yeah, scam artists are not always bright in the way they commit their scams and one of the things that you learn as a prosecutor is that anytime there is a pot of money, no matter the cost someone will have their hand in it. jennifer and i have done cases relating to 9/11 fraud, people stealing money intended for 9/11 victims, hurricane sandy fraud, fraud based on aid for military veterans, for disabled children. so you see this kind of thing quite a bit as a prosecutor. this is just another example. >> which is really disheartening to hear because go fund me is something that a lot of us are familiar with and they are responding to this development saying, quote, all donors who contributed to this go fund me campaign will receive a full refund. go fund me always protects donors which is why we have a comprehensive refund policy in place. go fund me will process all refunds in the coming days. it's important to understand that misuse is very rare on our platform, so refunds coming. but are there changes that need to be made? >> listen, go fund me is defined for small donations, you know, and i think it was started more kind of friends of friends. if you know someone who knows someone who is in trouble, you know, that's the kind of thing that people are looking to donate to and, you know, i don't know, i don't know what changes they could put this place that would fix this problem, but i do think they need to take a look at it because people want to donate to real causes, even if they have just a little amount to give, they don't want it going to someone who is gambling it away as it appears the defendants did in this case. >> let me pivot to el chapo and that trial continues this week, we've discussed in the past jurors feeling anxious, worried about their own safety, but what about those who testify because, for example, this week we heard from a former cartel member who said el chapo got pleasure in the killings that he is allegedly committed. elie, he is supposed to come back in three days from now, what about his safety? >> the witnesses are likely in what we call the federal witness protection program it's called called and that was a burdensome program, those people are under lock and key, the marshals have them everywhere they go. they are very good at protecting its witnesses and i'm sure in this case they have the highest level of security. that detail about how el chapo guzman got measure out of killing people rang a bell for me. a lot of them see violence as a means to an end. part of the business with a bottom line, but it sounds like chapo guzman was more of the blood lust variety where he almost relished the violence. >> what kind of a message will it send to other drug lords if he is convicted? >> i think it always sends a general deterrence message when you get someone in his position convicted. drug lords try to insulate themselves, you have your lower level people do the dirty work so you try to stay out of the fray, this he try to protect themselves when their lower level people start to get under law enforcement scrutiny. i think it sends the message that even if you think you're protected, even if you think you're having other people do the dirty work and you're staying out of the fray, you know, we will get to you and, you know, don't keep committing crimes thinking that you will be safe from law enforcement. >> you can take your phone call now, jennifer, and yeel, thank you both. >> really appreciate it. just ahead, yet another incredible escape from california's fiery hell. this video is incredible. the woman's horror as her neighborhood goes up in flames. to california next. people tell me all the time i have the craziest job, the riskiest job. the consequences underwater can escalate quickly. the next thing i know, she swam off with the camera. it's like, hey, thats mine! i want to keep doing what i love. that's the retirement plan. with my annuity i know there's a guarantee. annuities can provide protected income for life. learn more at retireyourrisk.org annuities can provide protected income for life. tap one little bumper and up go your rates. what good is having insurance if you get punished for using it? 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