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CNNW CNN Newsroom With Brooke Baldwin November 21, 2017

Who has massacred tens of thousands of his own people. Assad and putin presumably discussed the future of syria with assad, despite rebel efforts still in control of his warravaged region. President trump talking to president putin after which he had once called a bucher. And who killed more than 80 people. Its very disappointing to see. Its disappointing no matter who does it. When you get into the gases, especially that form, its vicious and violent. And everybody in this room saw it all too many times over the last three or four days, Young Children dying. Babies dying. Fathers Holding Children in their arms that were dead. Dead children. There cant be a worse sight, and it shouldnt about allowed. Thats a butcher. Thats a butcher. Thats a butcher, he says, to the white house we go. To my colleague aabby philip. What do you know. Reporter its been an hour, that they talked only the phone the white house says. Mostly about syria which is such a huge issue in this relationship between the u. S. And russia. Mostly because Vladimir Putin, as you saw in that photograph is the most important and powerful ally the Syrian Regime of bashar al assad. This kims a day after Vladimir Putin says that he spoke to assad about a political transition for the future of syria. For perhaps bringing an end to that countrys very long civil war. Thats an issue that the white house is very much engaged in. And interested in. And weve heard from President Trump for quite some time that he wants russia to play a constructive role in that relationship. Still not hearing much more beyond that from the white house. I think both sides of this conversation saying that they touched on russia. They touched on other hot spots like north korea and other parts of the world where there are mutual interests. Yesterday, on north korea, the president put north korea back on that state sponsored terror list. And russia is still a key player in that relationship as well. The white house hoping to kind of broker a better relationship with Vladimir Putin. Its too early, though, to see whether or not that is going to bear any fruits at this point, brooke. Quickly, do we even know of any mention of meddling in the election or not at all . Reporter according to the white house, what weve heard from a white house official no issue of election meddling. They spoke about it when they last met facetoface on the asia trip in vietnam. And that created such a huge controversy. I think its very likely that the president stuck to the script here, focusing particularly on syria. Abby, thank you, at the white house this afternoon. For the analysis now, we have tom countryman, who served as a senior official until forced out by the Trump Administration. Tom, nice to see you again. Welcome back. Thank you, brooke. Its an honor to be here. We wait it out, here we have President Trump on the phone with Vladimir Putin. The day the photos come out of a warm and cozy relationship with assad. We heard assad refer to assad as a butcher. And that russia interfered with the election. The points are overwhelming. Thats absolutely correct, of course any contact between President Trump and president putin occurs under the cloud under the recently documented web of context that the Trump Campaign had with russian government officials and their surrogates. But in the case of syria, what this demonstrates, i think, this phone call, although i dont know the content any more than you do, but coming just a day after president putin met with assad, it shows that russia takes the initiative, keeps the initiative. When it comes to syria. Now what the man that president described correctly as a buch r butcher, at the same time, it seems that the Trump Administration is ready to accept him as the longterm leader of syria, at the time when russia is putting all of its backing behind assad, even blocking any independent investigation of chemical weapons use. So, what is this conversation about, you know, commitment to the political process . And constitutional reform in syria . At first glance, it seems maybe all three can agree, but what do you really believe . Well, its certainly possible to have a discussion about constitutional reform in syria. I think what makes it exceedingly difficult to get all parties in syria behind it, is the russian insistence that president assad remain as president , seemingly forever, similar to what president putin expects to be normal. Thats not acceptable. To the other political groups in syria. And if the United States doesnt make an effort to push russia away from that position, away from that unblinking support of mr. Assad, its hard to see how there is a solution that actually ends the violence. Let me ask you, tom, also, this is from the state department, the story there, this dozen or so employees taking this unusual ten of formally accusing the secretary of state of breaking this federal law which is designed from Foreign Countries enlisting child soldiers. How significant is this . Well, im not familiar enough with the law to be able to comment whether or not theyre correct. It is clear and it has been clear previously that secretary tillerson did not accept the recommendation of many senior advisers, that he lists those specific countries, afghanistan, myanmar, others, of being in violation of the law that prohibits foreign militaries from hiring soldiers under the age of 16. It is an appropriate use of the socalled dissent channel in the justice department. Explain that for me. The dissent channel is something thats existed in the state Department Since the vietnam war. And its meant to give a way for officials in the state department to communicate privately, confidentially, to the secretary of state about their disagreement with any particular aspect of u. S. Foreign policy. It is a channel that has served american interests well. But however, i think its unfortunate when those private messages intended to stay confidential come out in the press. Which is precisely whats happened with this accusal of the secretary of state. Yes. Tom, let me ask you just a little bit about this breaking news into cnn. The u. S. Issuing brandnew sanctions against north korea. Targeting trading and shipping companies. You know, the story, just 24 hours ago, the president designated the rogge natiue nat agency a terror sponsor. How do these two things change the game here . Or do they not . Well, i support what is the administrations declared policy of maximum pressure in engagement with north korea. Weve seen maximum pressure. Its a good idea to put on additional sanctions that target shipping and trading firms connected with north korea. I havent seen the maximum engagement. Instead, ive seen the president undercut secretary tillersons efforts at engagement. The new designation, or redesignation of north korea as a state sponsor of terrorism is a form of pressure. But it is, i think, based on the wrong premise. If you call every bit of news you dont like fake news, then its easy to call everybody that you dont like a state sponsor of terrorism. But theres no new evidence or additional evidence that justifies that. And it simply conflates terrorism with anything that we dont like. So, i think its not an appropriate use of the law and of the president s power. We have other means to keep up sanctions and other pressure on north korea. What we need to do is to actually engage north korea, to find a way to begin what will certainly be a very long and difficult dialogue. Real perspective, we go back to Otto Warmbiers parents who sat with me not even a month ago and talked about the torture their son endured and they were absolutely calling for north korea to be put back on this list. They would applaud the president. I understand. Tom countryman, always a pleasure. Thank you so much. Thank you. We do have more breaking news, swift action by cbs news and pbs, one day after the Sexual Harassment allegations came to light against veteran journalist charlie rose. Both networks now terminating the relationship with rose. We have more on that. And the fallout today. Also ahead nearly 60,000 haitians who left for the u. S. , after that devastating earthquake in 2010 have been put on notice. Why theyre being told their time here in america is almost up. Youre watching cnn. Im brooke baldwin. 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Cbs sent this memo to staffers today announcing the telleration and in part it reads, a short time ago we terminated charlie roses employment with cbs news effectively immediately. This followed the revelation yesterday of extremely disturbing and intolerable behavior said to have revolved around this pbs program. It hasnt even been an entire 24 hours since the Washington Post story broke. The accusations range from the 90s to as recently as 2011. They include charlie rose Walking Around naked, groping and lewd phone calls detailing his sexual fantasies. Cbs initially suspended rose prompting his cohost to start their show this morning, right out of the gate, addressing those allegations. And these ladies made it clear they were not giving charlie rose a pass. Let me be very clear. There is no excuse for this alleged behavior. It is systematic and pervasive. Women cannot achieve equality in the workplace or in society until there is a reckoning. Really, im still reeling. I got 1 hour and 42 minutes of sleep last night. Both my son and my daughter called me. Oprah called me and said are you okay. I am not okay. I really applaud the women, despite the friendship, he doesnt get a pass because i cant stop thinking about the anguish of these women. What happened to heir dignity, what happened to their bodies and what happened to maybe even their careers. Let me bring in one of the Washington Post reporters who broke the story wide open, she is amy briton, amy, welcome. Thank you for having me. So charlie rose has been fired not a day after you broke the story ending the career of this journalist. What have you been hearing . Whats been going on at the scene in the last 24 hours . Its been a whirlwind in the last 20 hours. I can tell you before the publication of our story, we gave mr. Rose 24 hours advance notice of every single allegation that was going to be included in the story and offered him an attempt to respond to each and every one of those allegations. We did not receive a statement until yesterday afternoon. So, from that point on, i mean, the aftermath was immediate. First we heard the reaction from ps pbs, that they were suspending the distribution of the show. Then we heard from bloomberg and after last night, it was a suspension by cbs. Like many others today, i was hearing the news at the same time as just about everyone else, that he had been fired by cbs. Amy, i want to get to part of his statement in a second. But first, since you all posted the story yesterday afternoon, have you gotten other phone calls from other women . I have. Unfortunately, i would say within an hour after the story was published, i heard had emails in my inbox from women who said they had similar disturbing encounters with him. We are going through those emails now. And we are reaching out to the individuals who have reached out to us and were going to be responding to them. And were going to be doing more reporting. Let me take everyone to part of charlie roses statement where he said in part i do not believe that all of these allegations are accurate. I always felt that i was pursuing shared feelings even though i now realize i was mistaken. It almost says, amy, hes openly saying he thought some of these women were interested in him. That seems to be the suggestion from his statement. I can tell you from numerous conversations with the women who are named in the piece and unnamed in the piece, that none of them viewed these as any way as consensual encounters. The conduct by him, the physical contact, the phone calls, the nudity, it was unwanted. Watching gayle and norah speak at the top of the show where charlie rose was that important third piece. Almost like there was that empty seat, like they had to acknowledge what had happened from their heart and how conflicting. How upsetting and how difficult this has been for them and of course the women you that write about. What did you make of how they handled it . Well, i woke up this morning actually and immediately turned on the tv. And i had filmed a segment last night. And i was eager to see how they were going to proceed with it. I know this was an individual employed by their network who they sat there each and every morning. I dont want to place a value judgment on their statements as a viewer, i was struck by the moment. It seems to be a remarkable moment especially when they encouraged other women to come forward and speak forward, even if they were afraid. Amy, in reading your piece and reading it over again, one of my biggest takeaways, once again, no matter the industry, we see this enabling. Its this executive producer of charlie rose who admits for years she heard from these women. She shrugged these women off. She failed to do anything about it. She helped him get away with this and victimize more people for decades. And she is a woman. And i can just tell you what we learned from our reporting is that numerous women who worked for charlie rose initially felt reassured by the presence of yvette vega who was his longtime executive producer they felt she was a powerful woman and they admired her. They viewed her as a role model and some of them told us that they felt like she did not do anything about the behavior. And they felt like she was aware of it. Two women told us specifically that they reported the behavior to her and that Nothing Happened about it. Amy brittin with the Washington Post, thank you so much. Thank you for having me. The president s message to nearly 60,000 haitians here in the United States, get ready to leave. 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