put it back on his calendar. so now he's at the "new york times" on the 16th floor having this editorial board meeting. it's on the record. it's an hour plus long interview which means it's his most extensive interview yet since being elected. and we're learning about it through live tweets from reporters in the room. so we're learning a lot, brooke, about what he says he'll do as president. >> let's get straight to it. including what he said about hillary clinton, david chalian. let me ask you. we know earlier today his adviser said he would not pursue any prosecution of hillary clinton, which is what we heard, the cacophony of that on the campaign trail. now he's echoing this. let me show this tweet. as we know they're live tweeting. the tweet is "i think it would be very, very divisive for the country." is this, david chalian, a new trump? is this less red meat? >> listen, this is -- donald trump was keenly aware that he was about to take over a very divided country and he see this is as one way to try to begin to heal that divide. remember, he -- watch his trajectory on this issue. remember at the convention they started chanting "lock her up" he was trying to quiet that down and say "let's just get elected. let's win here." then in the fall as "lock her up" became a rallying cry for his most ardent supporters, he joined it full force, led the way, he got the chant going. and now we see him going back on that. he'll get dinged on the right for walking back on a promise but remember at that debate, the second debate where he said he would seek a special prosecutor and how much criticism he came in for about how un-american is and that's how banana republics run. he clearly heard some of that criticism. he clearly understands how divisive this kind of issue would be and let me read you one more thing in one of the tweets. he said "my inclination would be for whatever power i have on the matter to say let's go forward. this has been looked at for so long, ad nauseam." he also says he think he is will explain it to his supporters who may question why he's walking away from this as "a way to save the country." >> okay, we're about to speak to one of those trump supporters who may be none too thrilled he's walking this back. let's listen for a moment on what he said in the past about the clintons. >> if i win, i am going to instruct my attorney general to get a special prosecutor to look into your situation. special prosecutor, here we come. right? [ cheers and applause ] if i win, we're going to appoint a special prosecutor. she deleted the e-mails. she has to go to jail. hillary's running for a lot of reasons, one of them is because she wants to stay out of jail. >> it's awfully good that someone with the temperament of donald trump is not in charge of the law in our country. >> because you'd be in jail. >> wow. just wanted to remind everyone, we'll talk to a trump supporter in just a second and see how he's feeling with how now trump is responding to this. brian stelter, the other piece of this conversation today after getting a lot of heat for his tepid response to the white supremacist group cheering him on over the weekend in this meeting now with the "new york times," apparently the ple president-elect is saying he disavows, condemns them and says, let me quote this tweet in particular, "it's not a group i want to energize and if they are energized i want to look into it and find out why." a change of tone. >> we all know why white supremacists have been energized by donald trump. his candidacy did cause division. it did play to some of the worst impulses some people feel about others, whether those others are immigrants or other kinds of people. so trump saying he doesn't think he nshzed those people. he's saying he's not interested in the alt-right. this will come as a surprise to some of his fans. steve bannon, who's going to be trump's chief strategist, once called breitbart news the platform for the alt-right. to be fair, the alt-right means many things and i think it's notable that in this meeting at the "new york times" trump is very much rejecting that white supremacist conference over the weekend, that video we've seen several times now he says -- he at one point said to the "new york times" reporters when they asked about it again "boy, you are really into this issue." then he disavowed them once again. >> well, there's a reason for that and there had been this blanket condemnation but that wasn't enough and you mentioned steve bannon, david chalian. he was asked about steve bannon the times, he said this is -- trump saying bannon isn't racist, that bannon is taking this criticism hard although it's interesting because we never hear this from bannon himself. >> right and i think at that moment according to the reporters in the room, reince priebus, the incoming chief of staff, chimed in to defend bannon as well and you're right, bannon is sort of press-averse in many ways. i don't think we should get too caught up in the alt-right. i don't think donald trump turning to a camera on "60 minutes" or offering a disavoall in front of "new york times" reporters is what will be required here. if he continues to find racist, anti-semitic, misogynistic supporters who in one breath are talking about their support and embracing him and hailing him and in the other breath spewing hate, it's going to require more leadership, presidential style leadership, there donald trump to shut that down as unacceptable behavior in america. but brooke, i want to bring up one other thing from this "new york times" interview because you are right, very, very newsy. he talked about his potential conflict of interest with his businesses. he was asked about this and i thought this was a stunning line. he said "the law is totally on my side on this." he thought he was going to have to put in the a blind trust, he realizes now he doesn't have to do that and he says "the president can't have conflict of interest. this language is nearly nixonian. and so it's going to be fascinating to watch now as we learn that he feels very attached to his businesses even as he may hand it over in a day to day capacity, he indicated he feels no need to wall himself off from it as president. >> a quick follow-up on that because i noted that line as well and we'll talk more about the conflict of interest. then who can speak up? if trump is essentially the boss and you imagine republicans on capitol hill won't, is this moot? >> it may be moot if somebody is not going to investigate this in terms of the republican chairman on capitol hill and i'm not even suggesting this may rile up american voters, i just think it's one of those things because of the unprecedented nature of his portfolio moving into the oval office that will require more explanation just so the american people can have confidence -- >> yes. >> he talked today. his election has made his brand hotter he said in this "new york times" meeting. so he's going to need to separate out, i think, his business from serving the country continually to the american people. >> in this interview -- >> sorry, there's just so much to get to. i want to ask you, brian, what he's talking about about climate change and he seems like he's walking back some of his hard-line stances on climate change. by the way, here he is walking out of the "new york times," let's listen and see how people are responding to him. [ boos ] >> reporter: mr. trump, when will you hold your first news conference? >> sounds like some boos to me, brooke. >> stunning. >> reporter: when will you hold a press conference? >> i just wanted to sit on this moment because i think it's worth listening. this is the man who will be the 45th president of the united states who has just come from this mega newsworthy meeting with the "new york times" and everyone is crowded in that lobby, it almost felt like a combination of iphones and they wanted a piece of it and wanted the photo but you heard some mixed reviews and some boos as well. did you notice that? >> and to paint the picture for people, this is the lobby of the "new york times" building. it's notable trump went to the "times." he didn't bring the editors over to the trump tower. i think it was a sign of the "times." now he's leading through the loading dock going back to work. he was walking by a restaurant waving to the patrons but there were boos in the lobby. those are not "new york times" reporters or editors, those are other new yorkers, some work in other floors of the buildings, other offices, law firms, so people know it's not reporters booing the president-elect but in new york there's a lot of hostility towards the president-elect even though he lives in midtown, manhattan, he hasn't been in public much since being elected so to see him even in a lobby for a moment is revealing. that mix of emotions from people in the lobby. >> i wanted to sit on that and all of us take it in. david, back to climate change. it seems like he's walking back his hard-line stance on climate change. let me read one of his tweets on this. "i think there is some connectivity between humans and climate change." what do you think that means, david chalian? >> that was not the tone he was striking during the campaign. we should note, immediately following that according to these tweets -- it's hard to get the timeline of when he said what -- but it looked like in a subsequent tweet he also said, brooke, "but as i consider climate change and even acknowledging connectivity to human activity i am also considering the impact on american businesses and the american economy." so it wasn't suddenly that he was joining up with the league of conservation voters or sierra club and becoming some green environmental activist. i don't think anybody would expect that. >> but it was softer. >> that acknowledgment sounded different than he did in the campaign but because he added in how he's considering the economic impact the jury should remain out on how he plans to proceed. >> amazing. i will say good-bye for now. there's so much to chew on. we're hanging on every word from this meeting at the "new york times." watching him leave. we'll have much more on it. we mentioned a piece of this conversation. trump told the "new york times" it is his choice not to go after hillary clinton and he believes that that choice will not disappoint his supporters. let's ask one. with me now trump supporter oliver mcgee, a senior policy adviser in the white house science office during the bill clinton administration. oliver, nice to have you on. >> thank you for having me, brooke. i'm a big fan. >> thank you so much. let's begin with -- you just heard the news that the president-elect says no to prosecuting hillary clinton, he said he wanted to move on and move forward. are you disappointed in that? >> well, brooke, campaigning is a brawl and the gop base nominated a brawler but also donald trump is recognizing that governing is about getting to the peace and so essentially he's -- essentially kind of opening the door for possibly a pardon from president clinton. the issue is that -- >> what indicates that for you? >> well, i talked to my uber driver here. i asked a person on the street and she said that she said this is possibly a possibility going back to the nixon days when nixon was basically into the same type of situation ford pardoned him for all past and future malfeasance. >> i'm sorry. am i hearing you clearly? hang on a second, oliver, you're looking to your uber driver for knowledge on the matter to quote on cnn? >> a lot of times when you basically look at people on the street, that's essentially who voted in the middle of the country. i was kind of thinking it's the same way but at the same time it is telling to tell your audience because trump may be possibly positioning himself for a possible presidential pardon and that is about trying to get to the peace after the election. i think the trump presidency will be extremely distracted going into large amounts of disturbing the club of presidents. the club of presidential candidates, we have to get to the point to where we get to solving the bigger problems of transportation infrastructure, the 4% growth in the economy that we need and getting to the point of looking at all of the issues we have to do looking at health care and who needs it and who doesn't have it. >> i think a lot of people, oliver, if i may jump in, on jobs and infrastructure and economy, that was on the minds of so many people, especially those i know who voted for him but what i'm specifically asking you about, not only potentially not standing by calling on a special prosecutor to prosecute hillary clinton but softening on climate change and other issues coming out of this "new york times" meeting. are you still a full throated donald trump supporter ? >> absolutely. i've been on the record as saying this election was not about change, it was about enough and essentially when we look at the two coasts, which were blue, and the middle of the country was red the voters said we the people are responsible for we the law makers who are accountable. even if we start talking about who is going to be i believe peached and who is not. >> but don't you want that follow through? you tell me, is one of the reasons why you voted for him is what he was saying on immigration and maybe a -- i don't know, a muslim registry or a deportation force and now we're hearing a softening of those campaign promises or a lack thereof in that youtube video, that's okay for you? >> yes. it's okay for all presidents to do this. we saw obama do the same thing, we saw bush do the same thing. we saw nixon do the same thing and we will see the same thing in trump. campaigning is a drawl. you're at war but when you try to govern and see you see the issues talking amongst the club of presidents, even when president obama met with donald trump, they were about getting to the peace because ultimately we are a united nation and we have to govern ourselves together and really this once again is about we the people who are responsible -- we the lawmakers who are accountable. going to trying to get to unite together through the real problems we have in this country is very, very important. i know that supporters for hillary are out marching. they will actually walk it off, walk it off and then this situation will find a way to govern somewhere in the middle having moderate right and moderate left because that's what my book is about and that's where we are right now. >> time will tell, we shall see. oliver mcgee, thank you so much. not trying to throw side on uber drivers, i talk to cab drivers all the time. i'm always looking for perspective, i just wasn't sure where you were going with that. oliver, thank you for your time today. >> right on, brooke. >> appreciate it. just ahead, we will talk more about the criticism against president-elect trump over specifically white supremacists who cheer him on. a short time from now, president obama awards the medal of freedom to some of the nation's most massive stars michael jordan, ellen degeneres, tom hanks. also just ahead, this school bus crash in chattanooga that killed at least five children. we'll speak live with two pastors who are there speaking with the families and what the driver's mother is now saying. we'll be right back. where we explore. protecting biodiversity. everywhere we work. defeating malaria. improving energy efficiency. developing more clean burning natural gas. my job? 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how is the community doing? >> we are doing all that we can to make sure that care is give on the the families. we were here last night at the hospital. we have been at the school this morning, spoke with the principal of the school. we saw some of the children, the early car drivers that bring their children in. some of those children look sad but not really fully realizing what has happened yet. we came back to the hospital, we've been ministering to families in here who have children in the intensive care. these children are badly hurt, head injuries, broken ribs, broken legs, broken arms, bleeding kidneys, our hearts have been going out to these families as we put our arms around them and pray for them. >> how are these parents? you were in the room last evening at the hospital. what will you share with how these moms and dads are doing? >> initially -- initially it was some anger from family members. my son jason heard a parent cry out "not my baby." but then the cry changed a little bit later. initial anger, denial, and then weeping and today even looking for some distraction from the constant grief. these parents are doing whatever they can to stay present because they don't know from one minute to the next when their families name will be called and they will have an update -- hopefully a good update -- about how their child is doing. >> pastor, have you spoken to the parents of children who have survived? how did the children relay what happened, what went so wrong on that bus ride? >> the only ones that i've heard talk about that was parents that said the bus driver and his family must be hurting and this is something that this bus driver will have to live with for the rest of his life. i heard two parents of the children that survived that have said whatever we do, we need to pray for that young man and his family. that's one of my first thoughts last night as i was here, that we pray first of all for these children that are still in intensive care, we pray for the ones that are at school, we pray for their families today and the weeks to come because this is not something that will just go away in a day or two and so the parents are reaching out for prayer for people all over the city, all over the nation and whoever will pray. one man told me in the intensive care waiting room, he said "every little prayer makes it a little bit more bearable." and so whatever your faith is, whatever your walk in life, we have found out that you may shun a minister, a chaplain or something, but when it comes to your door and those hearts that care are there, i found that most always prayer is welcome. i used to drive a school bus long, long time ago and i loved those little elementary school kids. they would get on the bus and give me love notes i don't know how the driver is going to cope, but i do know from firsthand experience that it's something that will affect him and his family. >> for the rest of their lives. >> it will. it will. >> i just wanted to sit here and listen. appreciate both of your voices, thank you so much. i am so sorry. we'll be right back. whoa, this is awful, try it. oh no, that looks gross what is that? 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[ cheers and applause ] >> let's bring in cnn political commentator and trump supporters paris dennard, also charles keiser is with us, a cnn.com contributor and the author of multiple books including "the cost of courage, the story of how one french family fought the nazis during the paris occupation." gentlemen welcome. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> charles let me begin with you, we're getting the information coming out of this "new york times" meeting that trump has disavowed this particular group. is that enough for you? >>. >> well, i'm delighted that mr. trump has visited my alma mater at the "new york times" and says he doesn't want to do this anymore but i want to give him a little advice for the future if he doesn't want to stimulate the alt-right. first thing, he should never retweet someone with the name "white genocide" who lists his dress as jew america. that's what he did in february. he should never ask his supporters again to give the nazi salute, which he did at a rally in march. not a good idea. in july i think it was a mistake -- >> when did he say that? >> in march he asked his supporters to raise and pledge their support to his candidacy and promise to vote for him. there's plenty of video of that. then in july he retweeted an image of his opponent with the six-pointed jewish star on it. i thought that was a mistake. but we have bigger problems here. also in july, you know, he selected as his vice president the most homophobic man in american public life, a person who believes gay people actually do not have the right to exist and then if you don't want to support the alt-right, don't choose as a white house counselor a man who uses the word nigger, whose wife says he did not want his daughters to go to a school with too many jews and don't choose as an attorney general a man who calls the naacp an un-american organization and who we learned in the "guardian" today went so far as to prosecute -- >> charles, hang on a second. appreciate you going through all of this but please don't use the "n" word on my show. >> i'm sorry, i never use the "n" word except when i'm quoting someone who's been appointed by the president to serve in the oval office since this is such a disgusting moment in our history. >> let me go back to my original question, currently, the fact that mr. trump has disavowed this group. is that enough? >>. >> you know, actions speak louder than words and all of his actions have been things that encouraged groups like these. by appointing jeff sessions as attorney general. by appointing bannon as a white house counselor. you can't do one thing and then expect the other to happen. and just peering into the camera on "60 minutes" and sayings "don't do it" doesn't seem to be very effective. >> paris, let me hear from you. is it enough for you? >> first of all, brooke, appreciate you making that comment about the youutilizatiof the "n" word, it's highly offensive and appreciate that. the second point is this, i believe it is enough. i believe mr. trump has to say these things, not every single time because you can't go down the list every single time some crazy whack job on the far extremist white supremacist says something in support of you but a gathering this large of people doing these things which i think might be more of a pr political stunt is appropriate and the right thing to do. looking into the camera is the right thing to do because at this point -- >> how do you feel when he retweets people like this? >> sir, i do not interrupt you, give me the respect i gave you. >> how do you feel about that? >> i'm going to tell you right now. i believe it's appropriate the president-elect looks into the camera and says this is inappropriate, stop it. words matter and he's now the president-elect. so he sets the tone and the things he's doing, it's appropriate and the right thing to do. >> but what about steve bannon, paris, to charles's point. breitbart, the most prominent platform for what we just showed, the video we just showed, the nazi suit, the while supremacists in this country. are you okay with having steve bannon as the chief strategist at the white house, paris? >> yeah, i'm fine with steve bannon being the chief strategist because i trust the president-elect's judgment. but i also know people who work for -- let me just tell you a quick story. i was on this program, on cnn, they were in the war room of trump headquarters. steve bannon was watching the show on cnn and said "who's that guy speaking on behalf of mr. trump." a colleague said "that's paris dennard. i used to work with him in the white house." he said "he's fantastic, we need more people like him speaking out, let's help get him on our team as a surrogate." i know people at breitbart in los angeles who told me he happens to be jewish american, one in the office, the other is mexican american, that's the breitbart that i know. >> well, the breitbart that we know is the one who says that -- >> sir, your interruptions are inappropriate. so the point is there are people who work at breitbart everyday and i will be totally transparent. are there things on breitbart that should not be on there? sure, there are things on drudge that i don't like. there are people you put on this program on cnn i don't like but it's a platform -- >> how do you feel about the tone he's set by appointing an attorney general who was denied a federal judgeship because of extensive evidence that that he is a racist? how do you feel about that? >> first of all, i don't think you're the host of the show so i won't answer questions from you but i will say -- >> we made the point multiple times on the allegations you're referring to jeff sessions in the late '80s and he was denied the judgeship in alabama because of the allegations, he, i know, has refuted the claims he is racist but it's a point taken fromcharles's side. >> he's denied it. i wouldn't say he's refuted it. >> denied it. but that will make for a contentious confirmation hearing. >> brooke, the eastiest thing for people to do is use the race card to divide this country. i think senator sessions is an on rabble man. i know particular hbcus, he's been a strong to poent so i believe he'll be someone confirmed and we can look at everyone's history. i'm sure the person sitting next to me on this program has said some things he would regret. >> i think it's shameful any african-american would support this man to be attorney general. >> sir, you know what? i don't question your allegiance to the people you support, i will tell you why i support mr. trump who's the president-elect, because i think he will do good things for this country and particularly good things for my community. >> how do you feel when president-elect trump -- >> we're done. we're done. appreciate your voices. i am still -- the more i've sat here and listened to the fact that somebody used the "n" word on this show -- it is not okay. it is not okay, charles keiser, i respect you, i enjoy having you on as a guest but not okay, by the way, the claim that mr. bannon used the "n" word, i've never heard of this so there's that. take a break. president-elect trump met with the "new york times" after all today. there was first a little bit of drama and a twitter battle earlier this morning. trump dwetweeted "i canceled today's meeting with the failing "new york times" when the terms and conditions of the meeting were changed at the last moment. not nice." but then he changed his mind. you saw the pictures as he was walking out of the lobby of the "new york times" with journalists and opinion writers. so as we stay on this, we have the founder of mediaite, dan abrams, how are you? >> i'm great. >> let's begin with the fascinating back story of how -- apparently the "new york times" found out the meeting wasn't a go because of the tweet, then it was back on and then, you know, we've all been hanging on everyone's last word because so much news has been made out of this on-the-record meeting. >> well, it's a combination of news being made based on what trump said and the fact that he said it to the "new york times." i mean, if you were going to pick the perennial media enemy, according to the trump supporters, the villain, it's the "new york times," right, they're the place that treats trump the most unfairly, they're the ones out to get him more than anyone and so the fact he has this meeting with the "new york times," the fact that he answers all of these in-depth questions and they're all sitting there tweeting it live is sort of i think telling for what to expect in the trump administration moving forward. look, i just hope he keeps having on-the-record conversations with the media. i was getting worried he was going to start demanding all of these meetings be off the record. >> that's where i was going next. it's almost like a tale of two meetings. you have to off-the-record meetings in trump tower yesterday where who knows what was discussed because there was there were so many versions of sources saying x, y, z. then you have the on-the-record meeting at the "times" today. how do you think this is going to go for the next four years? >> of course cnn was there at the off-the-record meeting as was abc and nbc, but i don't have a problem with them having off-the-record meetings, that's okay. what it can't do is end up occurring instead of on-the-record meetings. it can't be that trump says "hey, i met with the media, i won't hold a press conference but i met with the media off the record." that can't be the compromise. but it's okay for on occasion the president-elect to say i want to meet with members of the media. president obama has had various meetings with members of the media that have been off the record. that's not a problem. the problem would only be if it wasn't in conjunction with some significant amounts of on-the-record and i was glad to see "new york times" reporters were tweeting away. >> i remember being in washington on election week and i was talking to different members of the white house correspondent's association and even then they were furious because the press wasn't part of the motorcade to taking trump to the oval office to meet with the president and there were all kinds of -- it was like a waterfall of concern as far as how will this look moving forwa forward. if you're the president-elect and we know this particular president-elect doesn't do things the way past presidents have, how will this go? >> i'm concerned as a member of the media. donald trump has said overtly he wants to change the libel laws. he can't do that. but there are things he could do. he could make tougher fcc restrictions. he could go after the corporate parents of media organizations he could he could appoint justices who would make it easier to sue the media. there are a lot of things he could do which would be very anti-media and as a member of the media, that concerns me. i don't think that's a good thing. i'm hoping some of that was talk but we'll have to see. >> i'll join you in being concerned but hopeful because of this meeting at, of all places, the "new york times." dan, thank you. thank you, to be continued. >> good to see you, brooke. coming up next, we are keeping our eye, live pictures inside the white houses, this is a mega impressive ceremony. the presidential medal of freedom ceremony set to begin. you have diana ross, kareem abdul-jabbar, tom hanks, all on the list of these honorees. we will take you there and watch for ourselves. ♪ (woman) one year ago today mom started searching for her words. and my brother ray and i started searching for answers. 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>> brooke, we know he has worldwide business dealings, he has about 150 companies outside of the united states which sounds like a lot but it boils down to 17 properties that trump either owns or has licensed his name to and has management deals and the question has been going forward how is he going to separate the presidency from the business of trump and we have to examples that call that into question he meets with two indians who happened to have trump properties south of mumbai and he meets with the british politician he doesn't want offshore windmills by his golf course in scotland. so while he is trying to set up this presidential transition and transition out of his business we see a question of conflict of interest. >> he addressed this, kristin in this on-the-record meeting in the "new york times" i don't know in we have the tweets. he's basically saying, and i'm paraphrasing, he's the president, he's the boss. >> there are t way this is could be a problem, someone political and one is legal. on the legal question he has a lot of good attorneys trying to talk to him about what he can do over the next 60 days before he takes the oath of office and thins get serious. i want to focus on the question of are we going to drain the swamp, are we going to get people who self-deal out of politics? found a lot of potency in arguments about about the clinton foundation, the idea that the clintons were profiting off of their political influence. if donald trump as president is being viewed as profiting able of his influence, able to security it legally, do voters rebel against him? think r think he's not doing what he pledged to do. even though he won't get a honeymoon, off majority of voters that say they think he'll do an okay job. off majority of clinton supporters who told pollsters like me they're playing wait and see. lett's see who trump appoints and how he conducts himself. he's got about two months to figure this out but if after he becomes president there are still allegations of this dealing where he's profiting from his own level of influence as president voters may not think he's so great. >> may or may not. i talked to a trump supporters at the top of the show and it doesn't seem to bother him one bit. kristen and drew, thank you so much. we have our eye on the white house, president obama will take to the podium and award 21 people with the nation's highest civilian honor, the medal of freedom honor. this is a who's who, celebrities, sports stashes, bruce springsteen, ellen degeneres, michael jordan, bill gates. we'll bring it live on cnn. these are just amazing moment wes love to get to all watch in awe at the white house. this is the medal of freedom ceremony that will begin any moment now where as we keep mentioning these are -- this is the highest award for a civilian in this country. president obama, it's a packed house, awarding 21 architects and scientists, musicians, 5th leets the nation's highest civilian honor. among this megalist you have hollywood hot shots robert de niro and top hanks, nba all stars michael jordan and kareem abdul-jabbar, and legendary entertainers like diana ross and bruce springsteen. cnn's susanne malveaux gets to be there. how many of the people on the list will be there to receive

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