Days when senator sanders decried questions on secretary clintons quote unquote damn emails . Thats a thing of the past. The fingers are pointed. The eyebrows are raised. Ladies and gentlemen, the gloves are off. Does secretary clinton have the experience and the intelligence to be a president . Of course she does. But i do question [ cheers and applause ] but i do question her judgment. I kwer a judgment which voted for the war in iraq. The worst foreign prol policy blunder in the history of this country. Senator sanders long interview with the New York Daily News talk about judgment and the kinds of problems he had answering questions about even his core issue. When asked, he could not explain how that would be done. Do we really feel confident about a candidate saying that shes going to bring change in america when she is so dependent by big money interests . I dont think so. This is a serious difference between us. What i want to start by saying its not a laughing matter. 90 people on average a day are killed or commit suicide or die in accidents from guns. 33,000 people a year. I take it really seriously. I am sure a lot of people are very surprised to learn that you supported raising the minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour. You know, wait a minute, wait a minute. I have stood on the debate stage with senator sanders eight prior times excuse me secretary, senator, please wow. What a debate. I couldnt turn away. I couldnt turn away, wolf blitzer. You were in the middle of it. You did a phenomenal job as the moderator. Congratulations to you, my friend. I also tip my hat of course to dana and errol. I think at one point you said, you know, if you keep screaming or yelling on top of one another, the audience wont hear you. What was it like up there . Well, the audience in brooklyn at that auditorium there, they were having trouble once they started going back and forth speaking at the same time, certainly the viewers at home. So i just wanted to remind them, unless they have the patience, let the individual speak, one at a time. The audience at home is not going to hear them. Theyre going to just be frustrated and angry at both of them. Fortunately, after i admonished them at that point, for the rest of the debate, they were pretty good. They went at it. This was a debate. They have different points view. A lot of undecided voters out there. Its important they know precisely where they stand on some of the important Security Issues out there. I think it was pretty good after that. At one point, they really got into it and i just wanted to warn them, you know, be polite to the viewers. Respect the viewers who cant understand what theyre saying if they both scream at the same time. Was there any moment that surprised you the most or sort of made you, you know, really turn your head and look up . Youve done this a few times. What really stood out for you last night . I was i guess i was on some of the most important issues, they were very, very forceful. I think what surprised me the most is when i asked that first question to senator sanders about Hillary Clintons judgment, is it the right judgment to be president of the United States, i was surprised how hard he came out of that. And he said yes, shes qualified, yes, shes got experience, but look at her judgment, look at her judgment on that, that vote to go to war in favor of the iraq war. Look at her judgment in supporting free trade agreements that have hurt american workers. Look at the judgment in her support for wall street. All of that. I knew he was going to be tough but i was surprised at how tough he was out of the gate and then how tough she was coming right back at him. Talking about his judgment. And that sort of set the scene for those two hours. Final question, just quickly because it felt like really the audience played a role in the debate last night. You would hear them, you know, jumping in. Can you just explain to the people at home whos seated at those debates. There were about 1,000 people in that building. And you tried to distribute the tickets evenly between the Democratic National committee gets some tickets. But between the two campaigns, they get an equal amount of seats. So clearly the Bernie Sanders supports, the people who got the tickets from their campaign, from the sanders campaign, they were a lot more vocal than the Hillary Clinton supporters. A lot of the Hillary Clinton supporters, they were there in equal numbers, but they were not as they werent shouting as much as the Bernie Sanders supporters. The Bernie Sanders supporters, many of them are a lot younger. Theyre very passionate. They strongly believe in what hes proposing. Free college education. Universal health care for all. All of those issues really hit home to a lot of those people, especially the younger people, and they made their views known. They came ready to go. The Hillary Clinton supporters, they were there in equal numbers but they were a bit more subdued. Wolf blitzer, thank you so much. Thank you, thank you, well see you on the situation room at 5 00 as always. After the president ial candidates answered those questions, theres now one overarching question remaining, which democrat won the debate . Let me bring in the Daily Beast Washington Bureau chief Jackie Kucinich and cnn washington correspondent jeff zeleny. So nice to talk to wolf to get that firsthand perspective. Seriously, every second, i was truly, truly compelled. And i think one of the tweets, it was pointed out to me this morning, he tweeted, im not sure ive heard two candidates yell at each other at such sustained clips for two full hours and theyre both over 65, thats stamina. I mean, its tongue and cheek, but it was impressive. Wolf needed a whistle at some point. I think that would have helped break them up. No, this was intense. It shows how high the stakes are here in new york. Its changed. Its changed and it was very clear theyre both kind of sick of each other and the stage wasnt this race is no longer big enough for the both of them. Its sort of, its end time. And clinton wants to wrap this up and sanders wants to make the case why he should keep going. He came to play, it seemed to me. He thinks he can win. She couldnt think general election. She had to sharpen her elbows. No doubt, and this is what Bernie Sanders has been doing in these rallies. He has these big rallies across the country, across new york. There should have been no surprises from the Clinton Campaign and there werent. She was ready for everything he said. But vice versa. I think the he seemed to be a little bit more rattled last night i thought. For a couple debates ago, i thought he was in her head. Last night, it seemed she was in his head. He was a little bit i think unable to make his case at the beginning to a broader audience. His supporters are always going to love him about the, you know, wall street, the speeches, whatever. Im not so sure that he was able to really expand his appeal though. And thats maybe what he needed to do last night. But, you know, who was the winner . I think it was a draw. A total draw here. And, you know, i feel sorry for the undecided voter in the middle whos like, mm, how do i make sense of all this. I really in particular have done a lot on gun violence in this country and were going to talk to the daughter of the principal at sandy hook who was killed. Because she was name checked twice. Well talk to her later on. This is when dana was really pressing clinton on the Goldman Sachs transcripts. People have said why dont you release them. This is part of that exchange. Secretary clint, the question was about the transcripts of the speeches to Goldman Sachs. [ applause ] look, there are certain there are certain expectations when you run for president. This is a new one, and ive said if everybody agreed to do it, because there are speeches for money on the other side, know that. [ audience booing ] but i will tell you, there is a longstanding expectation that everybody running release their tax returns and you can go you can go to my website and see eight years of tax returns and ive released 30 years of tax returns and i think every candidate, including sand eshs and trump, should do the same. So jackie, she pivoted right from the transcripts to the tax returns, take a look at my web side and you can see and thus then news was made because sanders then said okay tomorrow, meaning today, im releasing one. Well, i mean, so jeff was talking about how hillary and sanders said i thought this was a moment where Hillary Clinton still doesnt have a good answer on why these transcripts arent being released. Shes been asked this question many, many times. It needed to be done. But she clearly practiced this answer. Because she immediately pivoted to something sanders didnt have and, you know, donald trump for that matter. Right. So but will she release these transcripts . I dont know. She clearly thinks theres something in there thats damaging and theyll be able to go after her. Its an issue in the democratic primary though. Im not sure its an issue in the general. Do you think people really care . I think the question is why hasnt she released them. Im told the most damning thing is she sort of praises goldman being sass. If youre given money to give a speech, of course shes youre not in there to burn the house down. The campaign does not want an ad to be made while this democratic primary is going on of her speaking friendly to Goldman Sachs or bank of america or whatnot. What about the tax return promise . Were already halfway through the day on friday and weve got nothing from sanders am campaign. I just talked to a top adviser of his campaign and he said theyll be out by the end of the afternoon but only one year, 2014. Im told the thing to look for is how much money they gave to charity or how much they didnt. Senator sanders is not a wealthy senator. Hes one of the lowest in terms of money and wealth. I think its a case of disorganization. As opposed to not wanting to disclose. Hes had a long time to disclose. Hes been in public life for a long time, you know, whatever. Its a tradition. Its not necessarily something thats required. But, you know, everybody does it. Okay. There was a powerful exchange when it came to gaza and israel. Here you go. Health care decimated. Schools decimated. I believe the United States and the rest of the world have got to Work Together to help the palestinian people. That does not make me antiisrael. That paves the way i think for an approach that works in the middle east. Thank you, senator, thank you you know, again, describing the problem is a lot easier than trying to solve it. There comes a time there comes a time [ applause ] when if we pursue justice and peace, we are going to have to say that netanyahu is not right all of the time. He was a lot more to that exchange. She was forceful in her answer saying listen, i helped broker the peace deal in 2012, although shes been criticized for not going far enough. How extraordinary, jeff zeleny, was it to hear Bernie Sanders, you know, jewish, talking the way he did about palestinians and palestinian children . It was pretty unbelievable. Hes lived in israel for a time. Has family there. Right. I thought that was one of the more i mean, it wasnt as central to this race probably as income inequality in wall street. I think in terms of being interesting. I think of where he would go if elected to lead the country. I thought that was a fascinating exchange there. It shows hes given a lot of thought as well. Hes been on big committees in congress. Hes traveled the world. I did think she sort of was like almost said youre being naive here. She almost said those words. So im not sure voter that moved by that. I do think it raises the question of what exactly is his foreign what would he do on this in particular. But i think i would like to hear more of that exchange actually because that is weve not really had a central Foreign Policy debate on the democratic side. Hillary clinton is a hawk. Sure. And without a doubt. This was another contrast, very clear contrast, between these two candidates. In some other ways are sort of around the margins. This was very, very clear. Okay, thank you both so much. Jackie kucinich, im holding you over the break because i want to talk to you about something we just turned around here. Coming up, this is one of the most heated exchanges on the debate on the topic of specifically gun control. Well talk live to the daughter of the Sandy Hook School principal who was murdered that day, why she says Bernie Sanders owes her an apology. Also breaking news, another major earthquake hitting japan, a 7. 0 magnitude. We have the latest on that. And just in to cnn, the nba announcing whether it plans to pull the 2017 allstar game out of charlotte, North Carolina, in the wake of the states controversial law that denies protections to the lgbt community. Stay with me. Lots to talk about on this friday. Youre watching cnn. You both have a perfect driving record. Perfect. No tickets. No accidents. That is until one of you clips a food truck, ruining your perfect record. Yup. 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I think the system is working and all the delegates bound to the candidates will stay bound to the candidates. No one is losing any bound delegates. Were going to get together, were going to be unified in cleveland. I know theres drama. I know theres going to be work to do. I get it. Im not, you know, oblivious to the world that i live in. All right, lets begin there. Matt lewis, cnn political commentator, conservative writer is with us today. Senior contributor for the daily caller bob cusack is here, editor and chief of the hill, and shes kind enough to stick around, daily beast bureau chief Jackie Kucinich. Nice to see you all this afternoon. Bob, coming off what you just heard Reince Priebus say, you know, acknowledging that yes there is drama but yes they will be unified in cleveland, the system is working. Is this his inner voice, is that what hes saying to himself before he goes to bed every night because of everything else, all the noise, or is this really whats going to happen . Hes in a very difficult spot, theres no doubt about it. He has the toughest job in washington. I dont think, brooke, this is going to, you know, priebus says theyre going to be unified in cleveland. I dont think theyre going to be unified. Its going to be very difficult to be unified in cleveland. And this story line is not going to go away because when i sat down with donald trump early this week, i mean, hes really mad. I know the rules have been set for months, but he thinks that the process is arcane and it is weird that the average joe in colorado just didnt get to vote. So they both have good points but the bottom line is this conflict is going to continue for weeks, if not months. Well, weve heard from donald trump now. Hes written this opinion piece for the wall street journal, you know, blasting this whole process. Let me just quote part of it. Let me ask america a question. How has the system been working out for you and your family . I for one am not interested in defending a system that for decades has served the interest of Political Parties at the expense of the people. Matt, my question to you is, you know, really since wisconsin, with him writing this opinion piece in tthe wall street journa journal, we havent seen him going on in on in any sort of news conference. Hes not on the sunday shows this weekend. This has all been this new Paul Manafort era. I wonder if this is part of a new turn the trump team is taking. I think it clearly is. You know, hes not on twitter as much. Different strategy. And hes putting the system on trial. I think maybe the medium that hes using, write things versus spouting off or doing twitter, but the message is very consistent. Hes always been the candidate who is putting the system on trial. The candidate who is going to be a rebel in a way. Who said that the game was rigged. That game could be the economy. Or that game could be the delegate process. And so i think that part of it is very consistent. And the problem that Reince Priebus is going to have is that although i think priebus is absolutely right on the merits, you know, its really hard to argue with what donald trump says. Its a bumper stick, the game is rigged, the fix is in. Americans who are accustomed to almost direct democracy now have expectations. The air kayic system that republicans use, you know, now being put on trial. We know a number kasich, cruz and trump were at the big gop gala last n