Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With Brooke Baldwin 201512

Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With Brooke Baldwin 20151211

By the way, brokered convention is when no one singular candidate has enough delegates for that nomination. So then you have these deals that are made, brokered, to select the nominee. And that meeting, that was reported in the Washington Post, spurred carson today to release this statement in part, it reads like this if this was the beginning of a plan to subvert the will of the voters and replace it with the will of the political elite, i assure you, donald trump will not be the only one leaving the party. So lets go straight to senior political rather niamalika henderson who has the scoop. Lets begin with this carson third third you know party option ticket. Explain what you know. You know, this is strong words from ben carson who is typically pretty mild mannered. But i think you see him very much trying to line himself with donald trump. Ben carson in a very odd position in this campaign right now, declining in some of those national and state polls, so here he is, in a very strong statement. We get this in our in box at about 8 00 this morning, part of it says i will not stand by and watch a theft. Really accusing the rnc, they are sort of already trying to orchestrate some sort of deal. Now the rnc has come out and said listen, this was just, you know, kind of an everyday meeting that they had. This was partially discussed, the idea of a brokered convention. But this was no sort of the preview of some kind of brokered convention or them hatching a deal at this point. Hes also come out and said subsequently, carson has said, that he doesnt really think he would run as an independent. This is very much like trump did. He sort of made the threat, and then made it seem like it was very unlikely. But you know, chaos, chaos, chaos in so many ways. All right. So then similarly though, the chaos continues because as youve been reporting, theres turmoil within the Carson Campaign. There is. There are really two Carson Campaigns. Theres one thats kind of the informal campaign thats made up of Armstrong Williams and ben carson. Add the thing about Armstrong Williams is he has no official role in the campaign but hes very close to carson and he has taken some pot shots at the campaign saying that they havent really prepared carson in the way that they should. You remember the meeting last week where he seemed to be sort of off his campaign in talking about international affairs, pronouncing thomas hamas as hummus and people mocked him for that. And the campaign has come out and said well listen, armstrong, you arent always that helpful to the campaign, either. Armstrong in the past has come on air, for instance, and criticized ben carson saying hes got to be tougher and be used to the kind of scrutiny that were going to give him as he is in this president ial campaign. They have said, listen, its a work in process. Theyre trying to be one, unified campaign, going into the iowa caucus where theyve identified about 100,000 voters. They think if they can get 35,000 of those voters to caucus in their favor, that they could win but at least they want a third place finish. And then they can continue from there. Okay, niamalika henderson, thank you so much. Back to sort of her first point, first here on cnn, one of the top organizers of the Republican National convention responded to carsons statement. Sean spicer is who im talking about. He said the controversy really much ado about nothing that the dinner was simply informing those attending how the process, the convention, would work. It really is. I mean, honestly we have a dinner a night with people who have expressed an interest. Like i said three weeks ago we had 150 members of the press here where we walked through the same thing. We meet with people all day long who have an interest in this process. Pundits, members of the media, donors, campaigns. People have questions about the process, we answer it. But here is the bottom line in all of this. Republican voters will choose the delegates that will go to the convention in cleveland next july. Those people will decide the nominee. Thats it. Bottom line. So joining me now the editor in chief of the Washington Free beacon. Matthew thank you for coming on. Thanks for having me. Lets take a half step back because when everyone is waking up and realing this Washington Post piece about talk to this broker convention what would lead to a brokered convention . What would that look like . The way that the political analysts that i trust describe it is right now the republican field is so large, and the delegate allocation pool in the different states are so complex that you could have a situation if all of the candidates remain in the rails for awhile, where no one candidate has the required number of delegates to actually wind the nomination. This is Something Real clear politics has written about. I think that may be what the people at the rnc meeting niamalika was reporting on were discussing. And then people are saying that that would be so different than for example in 76 it was ford, reagan, that was two candidates at the time. And as you point out this is so many more and who knows how many rounds it could go. There is that. Number two theres this element now, senator ted cruz and this leaked audio, New York Times changed in this private fundraiser. Heres the clip. I like and respect both donald and ben. But i think in both instances, and particular you look at paris, you look at San Bernardino, its given a seriousness to this race. That people are looking for who is prepared to be a commander in chief. Now thats a question of strength, but its also a question of judgment. I think thats a question that is a challenging question for both of you. My approach much to the frustration of the media has been to bear hug both of them, and smother them with love. Because i think the people run as who they are. I believe that gravity will bring both of those kaps down and i think the lions share of their supporters come to us. All right. So that was at his fundraiser. And these politicians have been around. They know that people are going to have cameras and record things. But that said that was that was private. And then you have this tweet since then saying quote the establishments only hope, trump and me in a cage match. Sorry to disappoint, donald trump is terrific, dealwithit. Matthew as im looking ahead to vegas and our republican debate, how do you think the dynamic between these two, between cruz and trump, will play out for all of us to see . Well i think its up to donald trump. Because in that tweet you just read, its exactly what ted cruz said in private he was going to do which is continue to bear hug donald trump and wait, basically, for his campaign to fade away. I think theres real danger in any republican waiting for Donald Trumps campaign to fade away. But i think in the debate tuesday youll see ted cruz try to avoid conflict and the matter is up to donald trump. Does he want to initiate conflict with ted cruz since its cruz whos creeping up in the iowa polls. He is creeping, indeed. You write this piece in the free beacon about the party divide gets to how trumps candidacy may first republicans to realize their party may be changing. Tell me how, matthew. Look i think the partys nominee is a reflection of where the party is going. And you saw that in 1964 with barry goldwater. You saw that in 1972 with george mcgovern. You saw it in 1980 with Ronald Reagan where he brought in religious voters and brought in urban voters who were part of a new deal coalition. So its very possible that what were seeing in donald trump is a new change in the complex and the character of the Republican Party, bringing in new voters, and maximizing kind of the White Working Class voters who have always been a part. But a neglected part of the republican coalition. If that happens then the party of reagan and george w. Bush will probably cease to exist as we know it. After this election. Which is what is making a lot of Establishment Republicans shake. Matthew, thank you so much with the Washington Free beacon editor in chief. Thank you. And a reminder as we mentioned the big debate in vegas four days away. It is tuesday, december 15th. 6 00 and 8 30 p. M. Right here on cnn coming up next we have to show you these pictures here. These divers, fbi, what they just found in the water where investigators have been looking for evidence connected to the killers, that terrorist couple in San Bernardino. We have the latest there for you. Also, a disturbing new warning, isis, using machines to create fake passports. Why this could change the game. And a jury convicts a former Police Officer accused of raping 13 black women. Moments ago the women who survived his attacks broke their silence during an emotional news conference. We have it. We will play it for you. Do not miss this. Im brooke baldwin. Youre watching cnn. Ive smoked a lot and quit a lot, but ended up nowhere. Now i use this. The nicoderm cq patch, with unique extended release technology, helps prevent the urge to smoke all day. I want this time to be my last time. Thats why i choose nicoderm cq. Oh no. under his breath hey man hey peter. unenthusiastic oh. Ha ha ha joanne . Is that you . Its me. You dont look a day over 70. Am i right . Jingle jingle. 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Investigators in california are scouring for additional clues regarding the husband and wife terrorists, the killers, who committed the worst terror attack on u. S. Soil since 9 11. We now know this. That they are no longer searching the couples home in San Bernardino. Instead they have taken the search for clues to the small lake nearby. The bigger questions right now are as follows. What are the dive teams looking for . Did this couple hide, toss something in that water . The fbi isnt saying. One theory is that that hard drive that is conveniently missing from the killers home computer, could it be in the water . What the fbi is saying is this, is this the husband had ties to a terror recruiter, and a group of jihadists in california, it was a Group Arrested back in 2012 for trying to travel to afghanistan to join al qaeda. And, now a warning to americans, as the manhunt in geneva, switzerland, intensifies you have six terror suspects linked to the paris attacks who are now missing. Which means theyre on the run. So how does this tie to a threat here in the United States . I can tell you that a source is telling cnn that intercepted communication was picked up between extremists connected to isis, who were discussing not just possible attacks in geneva, but were learning they were discussing attacks potentially in chicago, and in toronto. This as the u. S. Warns of a new threat posed by fake passports. Fake passports. A new Intelligence Report suggesting that isis actually has a machine capable of making these passports. Here is the director of the fbi. Are you concerned that isis has the ability to create fraudulent passports or other identification documents for its operatives that has a practical that is a practical matter it would be almost impossible to detect . Yes, mr. Chairman. The Intelligence Community is concerned that they have the ability the capability to manufacture fraudulent passports. Which is a concern in any setting. Let me bring in the ceo and editor of Foreign Policy magazine, also author of national insecurity. Welcome back. Thank you very much. Glad to be here. Lets begin with what comey was talking about. This passport, this printing machine. First of all, how would isis have even where would this have come from . Theyve been gaining ground across syria and iraq and they went into a town where it was thought these machines existed and they took them over. Government buildings . Right exactly. And you know, we have to recognize that if youre going to have a terrorism mission, youre going to try to conceal your identity. Youre going to try it across borders. And there are a bunch of ways to do this. You can do this with manufactured passports, you can do this with stolen passports, you can do it by sneaking across the border. So, you know, its a worrisome development. But its not unexpected development. So youre not surprised, because you know people have been sitting in that seat for, you know, a year and a half talking about isis level of sophistication, this is you say par for the course. Yes, isis level of sophistication is growing as isis grows and they do more of these things, they become more sophisticated. I think we also have to keep in mind for example that we had these attacks in San Bernardino, and they had u. S. Passports and visas. So, you know, it doesnt take k1 visa. It doesnt take a syrian passport to create this kind of threat. There are a lot of ways. What about that that frightens you the most though of what we know so far with regard to San Bernardino . About the San Bernardino . Yeah. Well i think its kind of the new normal. Right . I think isis is the first open source terror group. Theyre essentially saying, you want to sign up, youre it. Go freelance. Go freelance for us. And then well take credit for it. Thats an incredible force multiplier. It means that anybody disgruntled. Anybody radicalized can go take action and all of a sudden it looks like isis is everywhere all the time. They didnt necessarily recruit them. They didnt necessarily train them. Theyre not part of a hierarchy. And so that makes them look scarier and scarier. If youre a terror organization, your job isnt just killing people, its spreading terror. I know a lot of this is perspective. We were talking commercial break about a piece you wrote last week that ruffled some feather about sugar versus isis being more deadly. I would love to hear more about that in the sense im looking forward to the debate and some americans are frightened. Because im looking down at my notes, this is the latest New York Times cbs news news poll, most americans fear a terror attack its the highest its been since the days after 9 11. So americans will be watching because they want answers. They want these candidates to say this is what i will do if im elected in the oval office to keep you safe. Well, look, fear is a very powerful thing. Its those kind of feelings that drive elections. Its not cerebral, its gut. Yeah. And were living in a moment where you sit here every day and youre reporting on a different terror attack on a regular basis. Yep. And weve seen that. And that drum beat makes people nervous. Theres rhetoric out there that does, as well. Having said that we have to keep it in perspective. Its a serious threat. We need to do what we can to contain the threat. 600 times more people will be killed in the United States this year from gun violence than from terrorism. And many more people will be killed from obesity than from terrorism. And so these threats are bigger threats. And we cant allow the ones that dominate the news or that scare us the most to take our attention away from the big things. Governor christie a couple weeks ago said it was irresponsible of president obama to be dealing with Global Warming when he should be dealing with terror. But lets be serious, the degradation of the environment of the planet, which will dislocate hundreds of millions of people, cause untold suffering, and may be irreversible is actually much, much bigger than the threat that could be caused by a relatively small terror group like isis. David rothkopf, thank you. My pleasure. Thank you. Next he stood trial accused of raping 13 africanamerican women. Now a former Oklahoma City Police Officer has been convicted. Prosecutors say he used his badge to take advantage of these women. Some of the survivors, they are now breaking their silence. He just picked the wrong lady to stop that night. I feel like i was in survivor mode, so i had to do what he was making me do. Im only in my 60s. Ive got a nice long life ahead. Big plans. 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