wire after the breach of security and a growing concerns about what could come about what should be a peaceful transition. four house committees sent a letter to the fbi, the national counterterrorism center and the department of homeland security, demanding to know how the riot happened and whether any domestic terrorists got help from someone on the inside. meanwhile, all 50 states are on alert for potential violence. in texas, at least one demonstrator today brought zip tie handcuffs. and more security measures could be as close as your corner mailbox. the postal service is removing or locking up mailboxes in 18 states to stop someone from putting a bomb inside. we're joined now from capitol hill. what are you seeing there tonight, shimon? >> reporter: yeah, here at this intersection on massachusetts avenue, blocks from the capitol, you can see behind me are some of the national guard troops all across washington, d.c. this is an intersection. there's a roadblock here and a checkpoint. this is where some vehicles could come through. there is a hotel where some national guard troops are saying. this entire area is surrounded by military vehicles. you can see here there are more national guard troops here, all heavily armed. we are blocked from the capitol. this is just one ring of security. there are more and more layers and perimeters around the capitol that are secure than anything that anyone has ever seen or experienced in washington, d.c. as you said, fencing around the capitol. fencing around federal buildings. fencing around monuments and the national mall closed. the concern is severe. there is a lot of concern that domestic terrorists are going to come here on inauguration day and trying to disrupt the inauguration. this is why we're see thing effort from the military, from law enforcement, and from others. 25,000 national guard troops. they are all not here yet. we have seen dozens arriving here in washington, d.c., anna. >> okay, shimon, thank you. it's not just in washington, d.c. police and the fbi are preparing for possible armed protests at literally every state capitol in the nation. cnn's sara sidner is in lansing, michigan tonight. there is a planned protest where you are tomorrow. the mayor is warning citizens to steer cheer of downtown. this is happening all over the country. >> reporter: yeah, and by the way, that was beplanned before january 6. so there is concern that people would show up here like they did a while back in the square. what they have done is nothing compared to what is happening in washington, d.c. you'll see a fence, more of a visual deterrent than a physical deterrent, because it would be easy to push down. but the real deterrent is that they have basically -- [ inaudible ] -- to not be inside here, to stay out of the capitol for the next five days. visitors won't be back until friday. so the reason for that specifically is because the capitol police or the police here have said that indeed there was a credible threat against this capitol. now -- [ inaudible ] -- which is an alleged plot to storm this capitol, take it over, and kidnap the governor. that plot was thwarted by federal authorities and there are several people who are charged and arrested, and that case will go forward. but it was extremely scary. when you looked at some of the details of what federal authorities say, it was quite violent, there were threats against police that they were going to do things to hurt police officers to keep them from helping to save the governor. there is a heightened awareness already here in michigan. we've been talking to a lot of experts who traffic extremism in this country and done so for decades. they're saying -- [ inaudible ] -- they believe what you saw on the 6th was just the beginning of this kind of activity in america, something that we now have to live with for a long time to come. >> and it is now snowing there in michigan as we can see sara sidner. thank you. joining us now is the attorney general of michigan, dana nestle. thanks for being with us. concerns have been high in your state. there was that plot last year to kidnap the governor, as well as armed protests at the state capitol. how are you feeling going into the days ahead? is the state prepared for anything that might arise? >> well, i certainly think that we've done everything possible to prepare for tomorrow and to prepare for the course of this week, especially with the legislature having decided not to meet this week. which is really unfortunate, because in essence, i think that the terrorists win when our state government is held hostage to their threats. but i'm very concerned going forward from there. i mean, we can't just live our lives with all the buildings boarded up and with this level of police presence continually. but we're going to have to really evaluate what this level of domestic terrorism has done, and we're going to have to step up our efforts to combat it head on and to work with law enforcement all across the spectrum at the federal and state level and the local level, because this is the existential threat of our time. and we have to be ready to meet it head on. >> you have said you believe what happened in your state this past spring was a dry run for the insurrection at the capitol. why do you believe that? >> well, all you have to do is look at the video, footage of what happened in april and the way that these armed gunmen overtook the entire place, stood in the senate gallery, threatening our state senators with long guns, trying to force their way onto the house floor. we're just lucky we didn't see a mass shooting or a device that exploded, even though it would have been very easy to do that. but i truly believe for folks around the nation, they saw that set of circumstances. it shows how easy it was to take over a capitol building and made their plan to do what they did on january 6th in washington, d.c. and in fact, many of the people that were there at our state's capitol during that event in lansing in april were also in washington, d.c. on january 6th of this year. >> how much are these potential threats linked to the president's repeated election lies? >> i think that the statements made by the president and all of his allies, his aiders and abetters, his co-conspirators is what i would call it, have contributed significantly to it. and i think it's a combination, certain hi covid has been very detrimental, because it's allowed people who have these anti-government sentiments, at least in my state, to really fight back against any restrictions that have been put in place because of covid protections, and they sort of mesh together with those who want to fight back against the government because now they feel as though the presidential election has somehow been stolen from them. so i think those narratives combining have really been explosive in nature and it's created this perfect storm. so i would say to all of those folks who continue to promote and to propagate this charade of there being some sort of an election steal to finally, at long last, say what we all know to be accurate, and that is that the election was accurate and to walk that back and to move away from this very disastrous and dangerous narrative. >> we know the president still has not done that. i know other elected officials around the country, especially in state where is the president and his allies have been trying to contest the results like michigan, have received threats since the election. what is your situation, are you receiving threats? >> i would say that it's been virtually non-stop. we've had thousands and thousands of threats that have come in against our state legislators, against our secretary of state, our governor, myself. we just charged a case involving a court of claims judge who was involved in some of those election cases that were brought by the trump campaign. the list goes on and on. that's why we have to be so aggressive in terms of investigating and then later prosecuting when there's evidence to do so these types of threats so people understand that no matter who you're making these threats to, it's a crime and you are not somehow immune or inoculated against criminal prosecution just because the person whose life you're threatening happens to be an elected official. >> two capitol hill rioters have been charged and they're appealing to the president for a pardon. the lawyer of the so-called qano qanonshamen said he was just acting on an invitation by the president to go to capitol hill. >> you can't commit a crime because the president asked you to do that. now, if the president chooses to pardon some of these people, i mean, at this point, there's nothing i put past donald trump, no matter how egregious it is. but obviously, that will make those individuals immune from federal prosecution. that would leave any state violations still vavailable. but obviously those would be nothing compared to what the penalties would be for federal -- under federal law. what a dangerous set of circumstances. it makes me wonder if we have to re-evaluate the president's pardon power. not just this president but all presidents. the way we have seen it abused during the last four years has called into question whether it's a good idea. but, you know, if the pres president -- [ inaudible ] >> dana nessel thank you very much for joining us. the michigan attorney general. be safe. >> thanks. joe biden's first moves as president. rolling back a number of president trump's decisions. we'll take you inside the plans. and later, cnn sits down with kamala harris. hear about her historic journey to the vice presidency. you're live in the cnn newsroom. jeff's been to the bottom of the ocean. the tops of mountains. and wherever this guy runs off to. a life well lived should continue at home. with home instead care, older adults can stay home, safe, and happy. home instead. to us, it's personal. 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>> umm, those two things in particular i think probably will not have republican support. there are some republicans who are still -- still remember what it was like before president trump and they go back to those republican values. listen, the climate should not be -- the climate is not a hoax. it should not be a partisan issue. i still don't understand how anybody who lives in florida where i do, whether you are republican or whether you are a democrat or whether you are independent or you're nothing, can somehow not believe in climate change. i think what it signifies is a brand new day. a new day is dawning on america, and these are two quick, symbolic big things that joe biden can get right what president trump did wrong. >> the latest survey shows president trump has hit his lowest approval rating, just 29% and the poll shows more than half of americans, 54%, want him removed from office. congressman tem man dent, do yo those numbers will have an impact on how republicans vote at trump's impeachment trial in the senate? >> it may. there are a lot of senate republicans that are seething, they are livid, not just because of the insurrection that occurred last week, but because of the way the president cost them their senate majority. the president's numbers have been declining because of his outrageous behavior, particularly since the election. right now, the president is in a much weakened position. and i'm not saying that there are 17 republican votes for a conviction, but i can see that number growing a bit. there are at least five right now, perhaps more. the fact that mitch mcconnell has signaled he's open to conviction should open the flood gates for some members who are on the fence. >> anna, you say it will be a new day with president biden. did you want to chime in? go ahead. >> may i comment on the impeachment? look, we don't know what more information we're going to find out. and law enforcement is going to find out between now and when the impeachment trial happens. every day it seems we find out more things that are more troublesome, right? was there inside help? were there any congress people that were involved in doing reconnaissance towards these people? these are questions that might be answered by the time an impeachment trial happens, and that might change some minds. and also, look, there's the issue, the question about the perks that former presidents get. and yes, there is the million dollar travel budget and there's the office budget. but there's also the issue that they have access to intelligence briefings. that they have asked for intelligence briefings. it's something that has to be done. and i think republicans in the senate have to ask themselves long and hard whether they want somebody like president trump, who is perfectly capable of selling intelligence or using it to somehow benefit himself monetarily, whether they want to give him that perk or they want to strip him of that type of thing by voting for impeachment. >> you hear the saying, the damage is done. i just want you to think about that as you listen to some of the president's die hard supporters, and how they view the events at the capitol and the president's involvement. >> i believe that either foreign intelligence officers or local militant groups incited the conflict. >> i feel people like antifa, black lives matter, who infiltrated the crowd and caused problems. >> there was a stolen election. >> nobody has looked at the evidence, so there's definitely evidence, nobody wants to look at it. >> i want my trump standing up there being inaugurated as the next -- as the extended president of the united states. >> did you hear that, congressman? what is your reaction? >> i think this president's worst legacy is not only the fact that he was impeached twice, but the fact that he has gone to war with the truth. and because of that, this campaign of his over the last four years, to lie and distort and to misrepresent everything, he's convinced the american public that what he has said is true, and it's not. this is his legacy. so it's simply astounding there are fellow citizens who can believe that this election was somehow stolen or rigged after hearing from this administration and plenty of republican election officials around the country who said the elections were honest and fair. this is, you know, again, this is about -- the lines are drawn in the republican conference now. liz cheney and others want to move forward with a clean break from president trump. i think mitch mcconnell is in the same place. but the question is, are they going to follow or continue to follow a man twice impeached, and all these republican candidates down ballot did well in 2020. so they have a choice to make. >> here's the thing. yes, what you say is true. at the same time, a lot of people believe whatever president trump says, including what's not true, as we heard from those supporters, that president trump can do no wrong. it's not even everyday americans, but republican officials at the state and local level. "the new york times" reported that interviews with more than 40 republican state and local leaders conducted after the siege at the capitol show that a vocal wing of the party maintains an almost religious devotion to the president and these supporters don't hold him responsible for the mob violence last week. the opposition to him emerging among some republicans has only bolstered their support of him. anna? >> look, it's not religious, it's cultish. i think republican leaders have to do some self-re-election and figure out what their role was in enabling president trump to brainwash republicans, to turn this into a cult. they have to ask themselves, do they want to be a serious party based around convictions and principles and values and ideas or do they want to be a party where the only purity test is whether you support donald trump or not? the republicans off talk about a big tent. but this big tent under donald trump has somehow become the home, it's become a house of horrors, a tower of terror. it's become the home of qanon white supremists, racists, anti-immigrants, and republican leaders need to ask themselves what have they done for the last four years, or not done for the last four years that has led to where we are today? it is inconceivable, inconceivable that this republican tent can have room for qanon conspiracy theorists but not liz cheney, because of the crime she used her own conscience and voted her conscience, that it can have room for a qanon shamen or a z x xenaphope, but not mitt romney, who was the republican nominee in 2012. so the answer is being people of values and ideas, being people of principle. and the republican party, they want to continue being a party, and being taken seriously, have got to go back to that. >> i've got to leave it there tonight. thank you both. i really appreciate it. >> thank you. we get to breaking news from capitol hill. republican congresswoman lauren boebert's communications director resigned. the decision was the result of his discomfort with her handling of the capitol insurrection. and so in less than two weeks in office, she has courted plenty of controversies. she was one of many republicans who voted against the counting of electoral college votes for joe biden. and most recently, she opposed the installation of metal detectors outside the house floor, because she wants to carry a gun on capitol grounds. we'll be right back. there's so much to take advantage of. like $0 copays on virtual visits... ♪ wow ♪ uh-huh $0 copays on primary care visits and lab tests. ♪ wow ♪ uh-huh plus, $0 copays on hundreds of prescription drugs. ♪ wow ♪ uh-huh unitedhealthcare medicare advantage plans. including the only plans with the aarp name. most plans have a $0 premium. it's time to take advantage. ♪ wow at capella university, we know the world is pretty smart. wicked smart. so we built an education just as smart. so smart it can work at my speed? 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>> well, it tells us that there's a lot of concern around the threats that the fbi and others are looking at right now. these are extraordinary steps. i've been involved in presidential inaugurations before, when i was police chief in washington, d.c. nothing even comes close to what we're seeing right now. it's not just washington, d.c., as you mentioned before, all 50 state capitols are under high alert, as well. so this is truly unprecedented. my biggest concern, however, because right now everyone is at high alert, what happens after the 20th? what happens when all the national guardsmen leave? there's got to be a deep dive into what happened on the 6th, and we have to look at security across the board and make sure that we don't have the kind of failures that we had on january 6th. >> i spoke with a correspondent a couple of hours ago and talked about how law enforcement are pulling double duty right now. there's a massive investigation into what happened on january 6th. at the same time, there's this incredible effort to catch any future threat that may be out there at the moment. so commissioner davis, we know at this point 98 people are facing charges from january 6th, about 300 people are under investigation. and when you look at videos like this, it stands out to me that nobody is wearing masks. people aren't trying to conceal themselves. do these rioters make it easy for law enforcement? in fact, some are posting on social media bragging about their participation. what does that tell you? >> well, it shows you how brazen these individuals are, and that this is being termed an act of terrorism is absolutely the case. they don't care that you know who they are. they're seeing very clearly, we've been monitoring domestic violent extremists for years now. they say clearly what their intent is. they hide behind the first amendment. but law enforcement has to take this seriously. we learned a lesson on january 6th. there's a whole new way that law enforcement is looking at this. and frankly, we are very practiced at doing investigations while providing protection to citizens. that's not difficult for us. the video does make it easier for us. >> commissioner ramsey, we spoke last week how law enforcement dropped the ball ahead and during the capitol attack. we learned that the fbi and dhs failed to disseminate information about potential threats for january 6th that they were aware of. and capitol police issued a report warning of violence that read unlike previous protests, the targets of the pro-trump supporters are not necessarily the counterprotestors they were previous, but rather congress is the target on the 6th. they had this intel three days before the attack. does this help paint a clearer picture of what went wrong? >> there were multiple points of failure on the 6th of january and the days leading up to the 6th of january. that's why we have to have a commission or a study into what actually took place. right now, we're getting bits and pieces, a little finger pointing here and there. we need to know exactly what happened. now, i read that speaker pelosi has asked general honore to take a look at what took place in the capitol. but i think it needs to go beyond that. i think we need to have the senate and house come together, put together this commission, bring people in, swear them in, have them testify under oath. much like the 9/11 commission to figure out what the heck happened. you can't fix it unless you know the full nature and extent of the problems that you're facing. because it's going to require not only intelligence and sharing of information. look at the physical security around the capitol. i mean, we've got to take a serious look at all of this if we don't want a repeat of what happened on the 6th of january, because the threat is not going to go away after wednesday. >> commissioner davis, we heard the chilling accounts from those officers in brian todd's piece, officers who survived being attacked by the mob, including one who said the crowd shouted "kill him with his own gun." what was your reaction when you heard that, and what is your advice to officers standing guard during these tense times? >> well, some of those stories that came out were horrific, almost medieval in their violence. and so when you think about that, and you have managed these events, chuck and i have worked together on these events in washington. he had us there to assist at one point. i managed a bunch up in boston. you see these mobs coming, and there's no logic to it. it can get vicious, it can get out of hand very quickly and human life is at stake. so i would advise the officers who were out there to be cautious, to go home at the end of the night, to make sure that there's enough help available. if these are terrorists, terrorism is -- utilizes asymmetrical warfare. so the chance of them attacking a force of 20,000 national guard members is slim. but it can happen on a softer target. that's what i'm concerned about for the next few days. >> thank you both. >> thank you. president trump is the only president to be impeached twice. the only president to be impeached twice. however, his second impeachment came just before the end of his term. what does that mean about a senate trial after he leaves office? 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>> yeah, so this is becoming one of the main defenses we're hearing from the president's supporters, but sit a losing argument. in fact, yes, the president or any federal official can be tried after they leave office. now, we know this first because it has happened before. way back in 1876, the secretary of war resigned, then was impeached, and then tried. that's a long time ago, but it's the same legal principle. if we look at the constitution just logically, it makes perfect sense. there has to be some deterrent, some punishment to prevent misconduct then a in the final days in office. and the constitution gives us a real punishment for this kind of situation. even if an official has already left office, the senate can disqualify him from ever holding federal office again in the future. all that takes is a majority of the senate. so bottom line, there can be an impeachment trial after january 20th, and we will see one here. >> this next question is about what we saw at the capitol, this riot, this terrorist act. another viewer asks, don't protestors have first amendment rights? where is the line between free speech and an illegal act? >> the first amendment broadly protects speech, but it is not unlimited. the key question here, whether the speech was intended to or directly incited imminent lawless action. imminent just means soon, close, not distant. and if you think about it here, the president stood in front of the white house and told that crowd, fight like hell, he said we're going to walk down pennsylvania avenue to the capitol. that's what they did. that is imminent. now, second, were the president's words intended or likely to cause criminal acts? people can argue about the meaning or suggestion of what he said. to me, the best evidence is what the president said immediately after the capitol attacks. he tweeted, remember this day forever. he called them great patriots. that shows me they did exactly what he hoped and intended. and finally, remember, we're only talking about criminal acts here. but you do not need a crime in order to impeach. if congress finds the president abused his power, that can be enough. they do not need to find a second crime. >> just thinking about his video where he called these people special and he loved them. let's talk about what we learned today. an election official in georgia will make a motion to refer a complaint to the fulton county district attorney. now, this is regarding those phone calls, the one the president made with -- to the georgia secretary of state where he urged him to find enough votes to overturn the election. one viewer said could president trump be investigated and charged for his call to the georgia secretary of state? >> yeah, this is absolutely in play now. and when the president leaves office wednesday, he'll lose any protection he had by virtue of being the president. there are several potential violations of georgia state law here, all relating to election fraud. the key question is whether the president tried to get those officials to get votes that he knew he did not get. i think his language in that call is key here. remember, he asked the georgia secretary of state to find exactly enough votes so that he would win by one. now the district attorney has said her office will investigate without fear or favor, as a former prosecutor, i applaud that. that's what prosecutors need to do. you get the facts and pursue justice, no matter how powerful the subject may be. a pardon can only cover federal crimes, this would be a state crime. so this would be pardon proof. >> that is the key there. elie honig, good to see you. coming up, cnn goes one on one with kamala harris as she looks ahead to inauguration day. what she shared about her family and her journey to this point. 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[ laughter ] so then it came time to introduce the rest of the family. you talked about how that was such a big moment for the two of you. >> she put the brakes on it. she knew how impactful that moment was going to be when i introduced her to the kids, and she wanted it to be right. >> my feeling was that, you know, my parents divorced when i was young, and i know what it's like to be a kid of divorced parents and your parents start dating other people. and i did not want to bond with the kids if we weren't sure about what we had. because i just didn't want to do that to the kids. it was actually more nerve-racking than our first date. >> how long did it take you to get to the point where you became mamala? >> not long. we bonded, and we bonded as a family, and as we call it, our modern family. >> i think they wanted a term that was more personalized and expressed, there's a mom, kirsten, and a mamala, kamala. and it involves out of love. >> do you worry at all the pressure you are about to experience and what that might mean for your family? >> look, you always -- like papa bear, i'm always worried about everything, including the people i love. >> thank you so much, sir, for your big ideas. >> you're very protective of her. i think the entire world saw that in 2019 when you jumped up on the stage, when someone was -- >> indeed he did. >> i mean, you're laughing about it now, but it must have been a scary moment. >> it was, it was. >> does that make you worry sh not just about the strains and the stresses, but just her physical safety, your physical safety and that of your family? >> you can't go through life like that, abby. you just have to go through life. there was no way i wasn't jumping up on that stage. >> and you're ready to be the second gentleman of the united states? >> i'm just very humbled by this and honored to be in this position. there has been a lot of great women who have had this role, including dr. jill biden, and i intend to do my best not only as her husband but as the second gentleman to support her and the president and the administration. and use this opportunity for good. >> the cnn special report "kamala harris, making history" airs tomorrow night at 10:00 on cnn. thanks for being with me. up next, it's the cnn special report, "the faces of the trump insurrection." have a great night. let's get checked for those around us. let's get checked for a full range of conditions. introducing letsgetchecked a health testing you do at home. let's get round the clock support from a team of nurses. let's get fast, accurate results. know your health. know yourself. order now at letsgetchecked dot com your mission: stand up to moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. and take. it. on... ...with rinvoq. rinvoq a once-daily pill can dramatically improve symptoms... rinvoq helps tame pain, stiffness, swelling. and for some rinvoq can even significantly reduce ra fatigue. that's rinvoq relief. with ra, your overactive immune system attacks your joints. rinvoq regulates it to help stop the attack. rinvoq can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious infections and blood clots, sometimes fatal, have occurred... ...as have certain cancers, including lymphoma, and tears in the stomach or intestines, and changes in lab results. your doctor should monitor your bloodwork. tell your doctor about any infections...and if you are or may become pregnant while taking rinvoq. take on ra. talk to your rheumatologist about rinvoq relief. rinvoq. make it your mission. if you can't afford your medicine, abbvie may be able to help. ♪ ♪ >> taking our freedoms, locking us down, and turn thing country into a blasted socialist republic. and that is not right! that's what i'm doing here. >> you'll never take back our country with weakness. >> that's what we're doing, fighting back. >> you have to show strength and be strong. >> they are the faces of insurrection. >> i think