Country. These are pictures out of kenosha, wisconsin, today, where jacob blakes family has organized a march. He is the black man shot seven times in the back by a Police Officer. Blakes family strongly disputing a new account of what happened by the police union. We should warn you, this video is disturbing. Now, the union claims blake fought with officers before the shooting, even putting one of them in a head lock. They say blake had a knife on him, which he refused to give up. Blakes uncle calls their version of events insulting and garbage, and the family attorney insists blake did not pose an imminent threat. Meanwhile, blake remains in the hospital where his father says he was shackled to his bed until just yesterday. Cnns sara sidner is in kenosha where a march planned by blakes family got under way last hour, and sara, what have you seen . What are you hearing . Reporter there are now thousands of people who are in the streets here. This is members of the black panthers here who have to the family and the family is just coming through. If you see a gentleman there in the yellow shirt, that is jacob blakes uncle, justin blake, who has been talking to me quite a bit about why he is so pleased to see the turnout here in kenosha. There are people from chicago. There are people from milwaukee. There are people from kenosha who have come here in support of blakes family. They have been chanting things like, i love black people and, you know, no justice, no peace. This is all in reaction to the shooting of blake who was shot seven times in the back by an officer. The of course you talked about the Police Association and what they have been saying as to what happened and what precipitated the shooting. There is a lot of back and forth between them and the family. They say he was armed with a knife, the family saying with his back turned to an officer, how does that pose an imminent threat . And in the meantime, there are other charges against jacob blake, though he has no longer been cuffed to his bed as a paralyzed person, Police Backing off of that, and they have vacated the warrants that are out for his arrest. No justice, no peace. And just listening into the protesters here as they are chanting no justice, no peace. Sara sidner, i understand were expecting the blake family to show up at this march. What do you know about that . Reporter the blake family is here, as i mentioned, justin blake, the uncle of jacob blake, here along with, i think, some of the nephews and cousins also here and they are expected to speak at some point today. They helped organize, actually, this rally, his uncle justin. They were also in d. C. The march on the washington, talking about what they see as Police Brutality against black folks in this country, saying that it must stop, that they are hoping that jacob blake is the last person who ever has to go through Something Like this at the hands of police. You also have this other story that is burgeon heing here and t involves a 17yearold white boy who is named kyle rittenhouse. He is charged with the murder of two people and the attempted murder of a third person here in the streets. He had said that he was coming here on social media to protect businesses. He showed up with a semiautomatic rifle in the streets here and ended up being the only one accused of deadly violence during all of these protests that have gone on now for almost a week now. Ana . And sara, you know, as we watch these images and the huge crowd of people there, it was the night when the shooting happened, not the jacob blake shooting, but when the shadowoo that turned deadly for protesters there, and that was several nights ago. Have there been ongoing protests that have remained peaceful every night since . Reporter yes. Yes. There have been ongoing protests. Some of them smaller. This probably one of the largest ones that we have seen since all of this began. This has been absolutely peaceful. The only thing youre hearing with chants from people saying, black lives matter, as i mentioned. And talking about the frustration that has gone really across the nation where the relationship between black folks and police is in shambles at this point. But you definitely see more people here than weve seen in the last couple of days, and again, there are tensions, of course, because not only of the shooting of jacob blake but because the shooting attributed to the 17yearold who came in from out of state and was allowed to walk right past Police Officers with a long gun over his body, standing with his hands up like this as he passed by several police vehicles. That frustrated black folks, saying, how is it possible that this young 17yearold white child is walking by police when you have jacob blake, who has turned his back to police, trying to get away, apparently, according to his family, and he is shot in the back seven times. So, a lot of consternation here, a lot of folks talking about the two Justice Systems that they see in t see. In the meantime, you have the Police Association telling what they say is a very different story, that he was armed, fighting with police and there was a tussle and tasers used on him and a lot of those details, we should mention, the Police Association is, of course, not the association, not the entity that is investigating this. They are responsible for standing by Police Officers. One of them apparently is going to be helping defend the officers involved in this and the d. O. J. , the state d. O. J. Is the investigating agency. They say this is going to be an impartial investigation and that the Police Association does not speak for any of the investigating agencies, ana. Okay, sara sidner, great reporting. Please stand by as we await to hear from the blake family there at this march. Meantime, let me bring in pastor james ward jr. He is jacob blakes mothers pastor. Hes also the author of zero victim liberate yourself from the mentality of defeat. Pastor ward, thanks for taking the time. Im sorry for the circumstances of us talking. I know youve been a friend of the family for decades, so first, can you give us an update on jacobs condition and how is the Family Holding up . Hi, ana. Thank you so much for having me on. I really appreciate it. Just the latest that i have had, it was a busy day, again, being julias pastor, not pastor for the entire family. They have a very diverse, wonderful family, but i do represent julias faith, having been her pastor. The last that i heard, theyre doing as well as expected. Of course, these are tumultuous times, perilous times. The last i heard, jacob was stable, having gone through a number of medical treatments, and i think we have to just continue to pray for gods very best for the family during this time and be sensitive to their need for gods hand upon them. I understand the restraints on jacobs legs have been removed. Officials tried to explain that, you know, thats standard procedure to restrain someone with felony warrants and that jacob blake was wanted on a sex assault charge. That warrant has since been dropped, but so many of us, were asking why police felt the need to shackle him or cuff him to the bed, especially given his current paralysis . What are your thoughts on how the Law Enforcement community has handled this situation, even just since the shooting . Sure. I think that my thoughts, ana, are that these are much, much deeper, much more multifaceted issues than we understand. I think that weve failed to develop a comprehensive understanding and an analysis of whats really happening, and thats a perfect example. Im not a law official so i cant really speak to that issue, but i can speak to this, being a pastor from a spiritual and a moral standpoint, and thats my understanding of why we never see change. We cry for change every time these incidents happen, over and over again, we cry for change. We cry for justice. But we never see change, and i want to offer you an explanation of what i believe as to why i believe that is so, because we only deal with these things and see them from a civil law perspective, and ana, we never understand that the two more important kinds of law that govern and define a nation are spiritual and moral law. Spiritual and moral law applies to the Police Officers as well as the citizens, and so we have to step back as a nation and really understand that as we continue to violate spiritual and moral laws, civil law is incapable of legislating the heart. Civil law cant make people kind or loving or respectful, and i believe that were missing the conversations that need to be had, conversations about compassion and morality and spirituality that are the foundation and the pillars upon which every society must be founded, and i want to call our nation back to focusing on spiritual law so we can see real change, lasting change, and we can stop seeing blood spilled both by innocent citizens in this situation, of course, and in the investigation thats happening, i cant speak into that, but then even Police Officers being assaulted. Weve got to come back to the roots of spiritual and moral foundation and i want to help be a leading voice in calling others together to help make that happen in our nation. We continue to focus on fighting to be right. Were having conversation about right versus left instead of right versus wrong and until we deal with the human heart, ana, it will never change. Im a pastor, jeremiah says that the human heart is deceitful, desperately wicked, and i use this simple analogy to explain this. If you give a righteous man the launch codes to our nuclear arsenal, everybody will be safe, because hes a righteous guy. But if you give a wicked man with malicious intent a straw or a soup spoon, you have to fear for your life because his heart is wicked. Weve got to deal with the hearts of citizens, the hearts of Police Officers, the hearts of politicians, the hearts of clergy, people like me. This is a heart matter, and jesus also says in matthew 15 18 that wickedness comes from within, that the things that come from within the heart defile our heart because out of the heart comes the issues of life. Ana, this is a heart matter, and i am praying by gods grace and with your help, the help of others, we can come together and really start to deal with the heart. I really appreciate your message. Im sure this is really heartbreaking and heartwrenching for jacobs mom. I cant imagine being in her shoes right now as a mother myself. And something that really moved me was hearing how, as jacob laid in his hospital bed, his mom stopped and parade with a Police Officer who was in the room, and she told our don lemon, she is at peace. Have a listen. We have to examine our hearts, and ive learned how to do that personally in my walk and relationship with god. The lord jesus christ. And when you do that, you get a peace. Theres a peace that i cant even describe, so when i tell you this is hard, it is very difficult, but in addition to that, i have great peace, and it allows me to forgive. Ive already forgiven. Shes already forgiven. That shows just incredible strength. Pastor james ward, i guess, when you hear her say that, this has to be a mothers worst nightmare. How do you think shes able to feel the way she does, given the circumstances . Yeah, let me say, ana, im so proud of julia. I cant be more proud of her, and i can give you some insight into where that source of peace comes from. Jesus makes this statement. He says, my peace, i give to you, not as the world gives to you, he says, i give you peace. He says, let not your heart be troubled. Julia is a member of our church, a faithful member of our intercessory prayer team, and we have more than 23 different ethnicities in our church. We have far right republicans, far left democrats, black people, white people, people from all over the world. Its a church of nations. And yet, we worship god. We lift our hands. We pray together. We sing together. We check on each others family because theres something that comes from god that helps us supercede our differences and to enter into what the bible calls the spirit of unity. This is why were seeing a problem in our nation. Our nation is so divided and the division is growing worse, and we can never fix the problems in our nation because only god, ultimately, can facilitate that kind of unity again through the human heart. I can tell you that there are a number of people in our church that have stood alongside julia for years and years and years as we prayed for this kind of matter. Weve done outreaches with the police department. And its something that weve found, i write about this in my book, zero victim, which i encourage all of your viewers to read the book because i talk about what it means to not be a victim, how hurt people hurt other people but because we found a place of love and continuity around our faith, its something that were able to engage. Thats what youre seeing coming out of julia, whats been deposited in her, the seeds that have been sown. The fruit is coming out. The harvest is coming out. You put a squeeze on an orange, the orange juice, whatevers on the inside is going to come out when youre under pressure. Were seeing that from julia right now and i encourage your viewers to really read about that in the zero victim book. Well, blessings to julia. Our hearts go out to her and the whole blake family. Pastor james ward jr. , thanks for taking the time. Its been an honor to be with you and thank you for the great work that youre doing. I really appreciate you. We appreciate you. Thank you. We are going to take you now to whats happening down south. The president just arriving in texas for the second leg of his trip to survey the damage from hurricane laura. Today, we are 66 days away from the president ial election, and cnn is learning the top intelligence official will no longer be briefing congressional committees on Election Security. The director of national intelligence, his office will no longer be giving inperson briefing to congress. 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Okay, so, obviously, we are having some technical difficulties there. We were just listening in to jacob blakes sister speaking to the crowd on the ground in kenosha, wisconsin, a large crowd thats gathered there. Lets go to sara sidner, whos among the crowd in kenosha, and sara, what is the emotion like on the ground right now . Reporter theres a lot of enthusiasm, if you will. Theres a lot of chanting just a moment ago, telling people to get out to vote. There is a lot of folks who are listening to the sister, one of the sisters of jacob blake, who stood and read a poem to the crowd in which they cheered. We also have seen just a moment ago the Lieutenant Governor barnes who is here and is expected to speak on the stage there. We have heard from justin blake, the uncle of jacob blake here, imploring people to take part in their civic duty of voting as well. Talking about leadership and why its so important. Theres also a talking about challenging Law Enforcement and youre hearing that right now. Theyre saying that Law Enforcement has to change its policies and theyre saying that the legislators need to change policies in how policing happens in this country. There are so many details that are coming out about what happened in the jacob blake shooting where he was shot seven times in the back, paralyzing him. There are also more details constantly coming out over the next couple of days of the 17yearold who is accused of shooting and killing two people. Im going to let you listen a little bit to the chanting going on. That is justin blake, the uncle of jacob blake. Not tomorrow, not