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Police are at the ready. They plan to record the license plate information on church goers at Easter Services. The governor warning anyone found sustainattending a servic person is facing a misdemeanor violation and a mandatory 14day quarantine. Beginning today in michigan, people can no longer travel between two homes. If they do, they risk a 1,000 fine or even jail time. That ban is sparking pushback in a state where owning a Vacation Home is actually fairly commonplace. Meantime, in l. A. , it is now mandatory for both employees and customers to cover their faces, their nose and mouth when going into essential businesses like Grocery Stores. We begin, though, this hour in new york where we are seeing scenes like this one. This is heart island in new york city, a Public Cemetery. Crews digging trenches there for the bodies of coronavirus victims. Victims whose bodies were not claimed or identified by next of kin. Now, this does happen, of course, around the country, and in new york city, those unclaimed bodies are given dignity and respect at burial in the Public Cemetery but whats different about this is normally the city has maybe 25 people a week who are buried unclaimed. Now, were told its about 25 people a day. Cnns evan mcmorrissantoro is live in new york city, and evan, as we look at the numbers in new york, of course, number one, which is not where you want to be when it comes to cases in deaths in new york, although we are seeing hospitalizations go down, which is a good sign. Theres also this battle now between the mayor of new york city and the governor of the state about when schools will reopen. What do we know . Reporter well, erica, this is all part of a conversation that new york is having now about what comes after coronavirus. As you mentioned, you know, still, many deaths, many hospitalizations, but signs that some of the stuff is plateauing and perhaps going to be towards the back end of the curve on this stuff. And so, you have a situation now where people are talking about what comes next, and a big question has been the schools, because this is the Largest School district in the country, a Million Students, a very big part of life here in new york, the public schools, and what were going to do about them in the next coming weeks of the school year. So, mayor de blasio came on this morning and said very strongly that the schools will remain closed through the end of the year. Parents have been advised about that. School administrators had been told about it, schools in new york city will remain closed. But shortly after he finished saying that, Governor Cuomo came on in his own press conference and suggested it maybe wasnt as final a decision as it sounded. You cant make a Decision Just within new york city without coordinating that decision with the whole metropolitan region, because it all works together. But were going to do it in a coordinated sense with the other localities. Thats his opinion. But he didnt close them, and he cant open them. Reporter so, to put this in some context, basically whats happening here is theres a bit of a political spat between albany, the capital of new york, and new york city going on right now. Basically, the governor saying, look, im the person that can reopen the schools, because im the person who closed them, and the mayor saying, no, theyre going to be closed and im the person who can close them. Stuck in the middle, of course, are teachers and students and administrators. Ive been talking to teachers throughout the day today, and you know, a lot of them said, look, theyre expecting the schools to remain closed. They dont know whats going to happen exactly but theyre expecting it. Parents have been told to expect them to be closed. Its a big deal because of what it takes to keep the schools closed here and what it requires to plan for a long closure and the School System here in new york city wants to get on with that planning so thats really whats going on here in new york city right now, erica. Also the limbo, of course, for parents as they wonder whats going to happen with their kids, how that impacts them, and going back to work. Evan mcmorrissantoro, appreciate the reporting. Thank you. One of the countrys most aggressive stayathome orders went into effect this morning in michigan. That new order bans residents from traveling between homes, between residences. Its a state where Vacation Homes are common. You can imagine theres a little pushback there. To justify the new order, though, michigans governor is citing these numbers. More than 22,000 confirmed coronavirus cases in that state. More than 1,200 deaths. Cnns ryan young is live for us now in detroit. So, ryan, was this more an issue of people going back and forth between their own homes or is this a concern that im going to go visit my grandmother for easter because i dont want her to be alone . Reporter thats one of the things were seeing, people wanted to get together for family gatherings. In fact, the police and detroit have had to break up several parties in the area because people want to get together as well. Look, todays saturday. Its a Beautiful Day here in detroit, and weve seen nothing but people sort of Walking Around the lake front. Weve seen them out, more so than we have in the last few days. But we also know these new restrictions apply to stores as well to try to keep people more separated. Theyre trying to flatten the curve but this is one of those stories that really hits you right in the heart because no matter where you go in the city, you meet someone whos had a loss and we talked to one family who had to make a decision about how many people could attend a funeral. He didnt want to go away like this. And he didnt. But just know this. We done the best that we could. Reporter these short cell phone videos of her husbands funeral are the only way ms. Smith could see it from quarantine. His name is rayshawn smith. Reporter she hasnt left her house since testing positive for the same virus that killed him. I didnt want him to leave here alone. I just feel like he was there for everybody and i feel like he was alone, like nobody was able to be there for him. I had to make an executive decision to keep myself and my daughter home. We dont want to go to another funeral. Reporter in the last three weeks, marie says she, her father, and her brother have all tested positive for covid19. People in the family started displaying flulike symptoms, no idea whats corona, nothing like that. Hey, i dont feel so good. My husband, his symptom was a high fever. Reporter with strict social distancing rules in place, their trip to the hospital march 16th would be the last time she saw him. They was like, you cant be in here and they sent my daughter and i out and we were sitting in the car asleep, waiting to hear from him. He said, baby, theyre going to admit me. Reporter their next conversation, the lastminute gesture from a worried nurse. So the nurse felt so bad for my daughter and i, she used her personal phone and facetimed us, which i thought was really, really nice. So, she let us speak with him and i just told him, you know, i asked was he scared and he said, yeah everybody that knows my husband knows hes not afraid of anything but he was very, very scared. Reporter just seven days after arriving at the hospital, he was gone. He went in the hospital on a monday and he passed away on a monday. Reporter the speed of the deadly and contagious coronavirus is leaving families like the smiths holding unexpected and underattended funerals at a frightening pace. Its very, very challenging. Reporter at major funeral home in detroit, no more than ten immediate family members can pay their respects in person. Just receiving so many death calls at once, you know, this week has been one of the most overwhelming weeks that i have ever had in my career. Im doing everything i can to safeguard myself and my family. Reporter and as for those still waiting to say their last goodbyes . I promised her, when this is all over, were going somewhere, were going to scream and cry, and hold each other and were going to go visit her dad. Reporter absolutely tough conversation to have with a 9yearold. Look, i called major clora today to talk to him about whats going on at his funeral home. He told me now hes getting several families coming in who are all dead. So, several different members of the same family dying in the same household. When you hear that being repeated, its very tough, and even his family is starting to be hit by the coronavirus so you understand why people are wanting to see something flatten out in terms of the curve but then there are other folks who live in this community who havent had the coronavirus just yet and some of them are wanting to come out and enjoy some of this weather or go to the store or do whatever theyre going to do. So, erica, as you know, as youve seen across this country, this is a tough conversation to have as it repeats itself over and over. It is, and it may be a Beautiful Day, but you know, all they need to do is hear the pain in her voice. And just think about what its like for her and for all those other families weve mentioned. Ryan, such an important piece and you told it beautifully. Thank you. As President Trump pushes to reopen the economy as soon as possible, a standoff may be brug between the president and governors who may want to continue stayathome orders. Just ahead, well speak with the governor of ohio. I am totally blind. And non24 can throw my days and nights out of sync, keeping me from the things i love to do. Talk to your doctor, and call 8442142424. There is some good news out of ohio today, one of the first states to issue social distancing guidelines. The States Health Department Just releasing an updated forecast which now projects during its peak next week ohio will likely see 1,600 new cases per day. Now, lets put that in perspective. That would be a significant drop from the 10,000 daily cases that have been previously projected. Even so, there are dire warnings that all of these gains could be erased and fairly quickly if the economy and the country reopen too soon. Its enough to say that if we were to stop at the National Level may 1st, were seeing a return to almost where we are now sometime in july. So, a rebound, that rebound doesnt happen in every state because some states are much farther along, but definitely theres a very substantial risk of rebound if we dont wait to the point where most transmission is near zero in each state. Im joined now by Ohio Governor mike dewine. Governor, good to have you with us today. Were hearing a lot about whats been happening behind the scenes in terms of these conversations about reopening the economy. We know its very important to the president. He said its the most important decision he will make. That being said, he cant really make the decision and say heres my order, the entire country must reopen. Governors have a really Important Role to play in this, so as you look at that decision for your state, how do you make that decision . Well, you know, i think we first have to start off with the fact that even if we open tomorrow, which were not going to do, the economys not going to roar back until, you know, people have more confidence. If people are scared to death, literally, theyre not going to go out. So what we have to do is to, as we look to the future and we were working on this, frankly, today with my team, but how do we get people confidence . And i think were going to have to have a lot more testing, very, very significant testing. Were going to have to have trying to separate the individuals who find out who has already had this, had it. Some of the people who have had it maybe not know they had it. So thats the type of work thats going to have to occur as we move forward. And i think the the reopening is going to have to be, you know, one step at a time, one stage at a time. And so were going to continue to look at this, continue to evaluate it. Everyone wants to get back. Everyone, you know, its a Beautiful Day here in southwest ohio and people want to get out and do what they want to do, but we dont want to be premature, but we also, you know, want to assure people that were planning for this. And what are you hearing from folks in ohio . Because a lot of this does depend on the community that you live in and how hard that community or even your family has been hit. Are you feeling pressure to move forward and move away from some of these measures that you put in place very early because of what youre hearing from some folks in ohio . Well, we have had some success because of what the people in the state of ohio have done. They have heeded the call to distance themselves, to stay home, by and large, theyve done it very, very, very well. And so weve seen that projection, which you talked about, which was going up like that, you know, that projection now is a lot, lot better. Our first concern was that we were going to totally overwhelm ore healthcare system. And you know, it doesnt look like thats going to happen, but were still cautious as we move forward, but sure, theres a real desire for people to get back and for life to, you know, go back to normal, but i think the message is, its not going to go back to normal overnight, no matter what the state does or doesnt do. People have to have confidence that they can go out, they can go to a ball game, they can go to a restaurant, so we have to help them get that confidence and thats part of the part of the rollout of what we do is we slowly reopen. If the president were to put in place some sort of a national order, which, again, would be more of a recommendation just based on again, we know on the way that the country works and the constitution, but even still, if that went into effect, saying open up in may, how would you handle that . Well, you know, i think that the president is doing what a president should do and thats be aspirational. When he talks about, you know, i want to open up he talked about by easter, and i dont think theres anything wrong with that. We all want to be optimistic but ultimately, every state is different, and were at a different stage in every state. As i talk to my fellow governors, each one is a different stage, so ultimately, were going to have to make that decision in ohio and whats best, you know, for our state based on the facts that are unique to ohio. As we look at whats happening across the country, we hear Different Things from different cities and i know it depends on the day, how certain hospitals are doing. The president was asked specifically about whether those on the front lines have what they need yesterday at the task force briefing. Heres that moment. You and some of the officials paint a rosy picture of what is happening around the country. If you look at some of these questions, do we have enough masks . No. Do we have enough tests . No. Do we have enough ppe . No. Why would you say no . The answer is yes. I think the answer is yes. Who said no to that . Im saying, this is youre saying no but who said no . You asked me, do we have enough we hear from doctors. You didnt say that. You said, do we have enough masks . Does the country . Yes. The president went on to say that he does feel everybody has enough of what they need. What is the situation today in ohio, and how are your healthcare workers feeling about their needs . Well, we want to protect not only the healthcare workers, frankly, we would hope to protect the people, you know, who are working at nursing homes, not just the people in hospitals but the people in nursing homes, our first responders, weve also got people, you know, in Grocery Stores who need to be protected, so were looking at it kind of from a wholistic point of view. If you ask me where we are, were a lot better than we were a week ago, and a whole lot better than we were two weeks ago. I mean, we were working on this last night. My staff stayed up until 3 00 a. M. , securing 5 million of the masks, the highgrade masks, theyre coming out of l. A. , and you know, were happy to have those. So, you know, these are important. Its important for us to be able to tell our Health Workers we got your back and were going to do everything that we can to make sure that you have the equipment that you need. It sounds like it is it is an equation, as we hear from many officials that is changing sometimes by the hour. Quickly, before we let you go, your neighbor next door, governor the governor in kentucky, is concerned about a handful, he said, maybe six churches that are planning to hold Easter Services tomorrow, and has put out word that they will take down license plate information, they will make sure they know who those folks are who are going to services saying what is really an act of faith, in his view, is sacrificing a little bit too protect your neighbor. Are you concerned at all about easter gatherings tomorrow in ohio . Well, heres what ive ive told, and most of our churches are doing this online. Theyre doing theyre great. You know, theyre pulling people together, but separating them physically. But what i said at a press conference this week, and i talked directly to the ministers who might be thinking about doing this, i said, look, theres no religion that im aware of where endangering someone else is considered to be a good thing. So, you know, please be very, very careful, and the vast, vast majority of our rabbis, our ministers, our priests in ohio are doing a great job. Theyve either cancelled services or theyre working it out so people can listen on the radio or they can listen on the internet. So, theyre people get it. Governor mike dewine, appreciate your time this afternoon, sir. Thank you. Thank you. In the crucial early days of the spread of coronavirus, a cnn investigation found the federal government actually blocked private labs from using tests. Those details are next. Youre live in the cnn newsroom. What happened daddy . Well, you see here. Theres a photo of you and theres a photo of your mommy and then theres a picture of me. But before our story it goes way, way, way back with your great, great, great grandparents. See this handsome man, his name is william. William fell in love with rose and they had a kid. His name was charles and charles met martha. Isnt she pretty . Yeah. Some Easter Services<\/a>. The governor warning anyone found sustainattending a servic person is facing a misdemeanor violation and a mandatory 14day quarantine. Beginning today in michigan, people can no longer travel between two homes. If they do, they risk a 1,000 fine or even jail time. That ban is sparking pushback in a state where owning a Vacation Home<\/a> is actually fairly commonplace. Meantime, in l. A. , it is now mandatory for both employees and customers to cover their faces, their nose and mouth when going into essential businesses like Grocery Stores<\/a>. We begin, though, this hour in new york where we are seeing scenes like this one. This is heart island in new york city, a Public Cemetery<\/a>. Crews digging trenches there for the bodies of coronavirus victims. Victims whose bodies were not claimed or identified by next of kin. Now, this does happen, of course, around the country, and in new york city, those unclaimed bodies are given dignity and respect at burial in the Public Cemetery<\/a> but whats different about this is normally the city has maybe 25 people a week who are buried unclaimed. Now, were told its about 25 people a day. Cnns evan mcmorrissantoro is live in new york city, and evan, as we look at the numbers in new york, of course, number one, which is not where you want to be when it comes to cases in deaths in new york, although we are seeing hospitalizations go down, which is a good sign. Theres also this battle now between the mayor of new york city and the governor of the state about when schools will reopen. What do we know . Reporter well, erica, this is all part of a conversation that new york is having now about what comes after coronavirus. As you mentioned, you know, still, many deaths, many hospitalizations, but signs that some of the stuff is plateauing and perhaps going to be towards the back end of the curve on this stuff. And so, you have a situation now where people are talking about what comes next, and a big question has been the schools, because this is the Largest School<\/a> district in the country, a Million Students<\/a>, a very big part of life here in new york, the public schools, and what were going to do about them in the next coming weeks of the school year. So, mayor de blasio came on this morning and said very strongly that the schools will remain closed through the end of the year. Parents have been advised about that. School administrators had been told about it, schools in new york city will remain closed. But shortly after he finished saying that, Governor Cuomo<\/a> came on in his own press conference and suggested it maybe wasnt as final a decision as it sounded. You cant make a Decision Just<\/a> within new york city without coordinating that decision with the whole metropolitan region, because it all works together. But were going to do it in a coordinated sense with the other localities. Thats his opinion. But he didnt close them, and he cant open them. Reporter so, to put this in some context, basically whats happening here is theres a bit of a political spat between albany, the capital of new york, and new york city going on right now. Basically, the governor saying, look, im the person that can reopen the schools, because im the person who closed them, and the mayor saying, no, theyre going to be closed and im the person who can close them. Stuck in the middle, of course, are teachers and students and administrators. Ive been talking to teachers throughout the day today, and you know, a lot of them said, look, theyre expecting the schools to remain closed. They dont know whats going to happen exactly but theyre expecting it. Parents have been told to expect them to be closed. Its a big deal because of what it takes to keep the schools closed here and what it requires to plan for a long closure and the School System<\/a> here in new york city wants to get on with that planning so thats really whats going on here in new york city right now, erica. Also the limbo, of course, for parents as they wonder whats going to happen with their kids, how that impacts them, and going back to work. Evan mcmorrissantoro, appreciate the reporting. Thank you. One of the countrys most aggressive stayathome orders went into effect this morning in michigan. That new order bans residents from traveling between homes, between residences. Its a state where Vacation Home<\/a>s are common. You can imagine theres a little pushback there. To justify the new order, though, michigans governor is citing these numbers. More than 22,000 confirmed coronavirus cases in that state. More than 1,200 deaths. Cnns ryan young is live for us now in detroit. So, ryan, was this more an issue of people going back and forth between their own homes or is this a concern that im going to go visit my grandmother for easter because i dont want her to be alone . Reporter thats one of the things were seeing, people wanted to get together for family gatherings. In fact, the police and detroit have had to break up several parties in the area because people want to get together as well. Look, todays saturday. Its a Beautiful Day<\/a> here in detroit, and weve seen nothing but people sort of Walking Around<\/a> the lake front. Weve seen them out, more so than we have in the last few days. But we also know these new restrictions apply to stores as well to try to keep people more separated. Theyre trying to flatten the curve but this is one of those stories that really hits you right in the heart because no matter where you go in the city, you meet someone whos had a loss and we talked to one family who had to make a decision about how many people could attend a funeral. He didnt want to go away like this. And he didnt. But just know this. We done the best that we could. Reporter these short cell phone videos of her husbands funeral are the only way ms. Smith could see it from quarantine. His name is rayshawn smith. Reporter she hasnt left her house since testing positive for the same virus that killed him. I didnt want him to leave here alone. I just feel like he was there for everybody and i feel like he was alone, like nobody was able to be there for him. I had to make an executive decision to keep myself and my daughter home. We dont want to go to another funeral. Reporter in the last three weeks, marie says she, her father, and her brother have all tested positive for covid19. People in the family started displaying flulike symptoms, no idea whats corona, nothing like that. Hey, i dont feel so good. My husband, his symptom was a high fever. Reporter with strict social distancing rules in place, their trip to the hospital march 16th would be the last time she saw him. They was like, you cant be in here and they sent my daughter and i out and we were sitting in the car asleep, waiting to hear from him. He said, baby, theyre going to admit me. Reporter their next conversation, the lastminute gesture from a worried nurse. So the nurse felt so bad for my daughter and i, she used her personal phone and facetimed us, which i thought was really, really nice. So, she let us speak with him and i just told him, you know, i asked was he scared and he said, yeah everybody that knows my husband knows hes not afraid of anything but he was very, very scared. Reporter just seven days after arriving at the hospital, he was gone. He went in the hospital on a monday and he passed away on a monday. Reporter the speed of the deadly and contagious coronavirus is leaving families like the smiths holding unexpected and underattended funerals at a frightening pace. Its very, very challenging. Reporter at major funeral home in detroit, no more than ten immediate family members can pay their respects in person. Just receiving so many death calls at once, you know, this week has been one of the most overwhelming weeks that i have ever had in my career. Im doing everything i can to safeguard myself and my family. Reporter and as for those still waiting to say their last goodbyes . I promised her, when this is all over, were going somewhere, were going to scream and cry, and hold each other and were going to go visit her dad. Reporter absolutely tough conversation to have with a 9yearold. Look, i called major clora today to talk to him about whats going on at his funeral home. He told me now hes getting several families coming in who are all dead. So, several different members of the same family dying in the same household. When you hear that being repeated, its very tough, and even his family is starting to be hit by the coronavirus so you understand why people are wanting to see something flatten out in terms of the curve but then there are other folks who live in this community who havent had the coronavirus just yet and some of them are wanting to come out and enjoy some of this weather or go to the store or do whatever theyre going to do. So, erica, as you know, as youve seen across this country, this is a tough conversation to have as it repeats itself over and over. It is, and it may be a Beautiful Day<\/a>, but you know, all they need to do is hear the pain in her voice. And just think about what its like for her and for all those other families weve mentioned. Ryan, such an important piece and you told it beautifully. Thank you. As President Trump<\/a> pushes to reopen the economy as soon as possible, a standoff may be brug between the president and governors who may want to continue stayathome orders. Just ahead, well speak with the governor of ohio. I am totally blind. And non24 can throw my days and nights out of sync, keeping me from the things i love to do. Talk to your doctor, and call 8442142424. There is some good news out of ohio today, one of the first states to issue social distancing guidelines. The States Health<\/a> Department Just<\/a> releasing an updated forecast which now projects during its peak next week ohio will likely see 1,600 new cases per day. Now, lets put that in perspective. That would be a significant drop from the 10,000 daily cases that have been previously projected. Even so, there are dire warnings that all of these gains could be erased and fairly quickly if the economy and the country reopen too soon. Its enough to say that if we were to stop at the National Level<\/a> may 1st, were seeing a return to almost where we are now sometime in july. So, a rebound, that rebound doesnt happen in every state because some states are much farther along, but definitely theres a very substantial risk of rebound if we dont wait to the point where most transmission is near zero in each state. Im joined now by Ohio Governor<\/a> mike dewine. Governor, good to have you with us today. Were hearing a lot about whats been happening behind the scenes in terms of these conversations about reopening the economy. We know its very important to the president. He said its the most important decision he will make. That being said, he cant really make the decision and say heres my order, the entire country must reopen. Governors have a really Important Role<\/a> to play in this, so as you look at that decision for your state, how do you make that decision . Well, you know, i think we first have to start off with the fact that even if we open tomorrow, which were not going to do, the economys not going to roar back until, you know, people have more confidence. If people are scared to death, literally, theyre not going to go out. So what we have to do is to, as we look to the future and we were working on this, frankly, today with my team, but how do we get people confidence . And i think were going to have to have a lot more testing, very, very significant testing. Were going to have to have trying to separate the individuals who find out who has already had this, had it. Some of the people who have had it maybe not know they had it. So thats the type of work thats going to have to occur as we move forward. And i think the the reopening is going to have to be, you know, one step at a time, one stage at a time. And so were going to continue to look at this, continue to evaluate it. Everyone wants to get back. Everyone, you know, its a Beautiful Day<\/a> here in southwest ohio and people want to get out and do what they want to do, but we dont want to be premature, but we also, you know, want to assure people that were planning for this. And what are you hearing from folks in ohio . Because a lot of this does depend on the community that you live in and how hard that community or even your family has been hit. Are you feeling pressure to move forward and move away from some of these measures that you put in place very early because of what youre hearing from some folks in ohio . Well, we have had some success because of what the people in the state of ohio have done. They have heeded the call to distance themselves, to stay home, by and large, theyve done it very, very, very well. And so weve seen that projection, which you talked about, which was going up like that, you know, that projection now is a lot, lot better. Our first concern was that we were going to totally overwhelm ore healthcare system. And you know, it doesnt look like thats going to happen, but were still cautious as we move forward, but sure, theres a real desire for people to get back and for life to, you know, go back to normal, but i think the message is, its not going to go back to normal overnight, no matter what the state does or doesnt do. People have to have confidence that they can go out, they can go to a ball game, they can go to a restaurant, so we have to help them get that confidence and thats part of the part of the rollout of what we do is we slowly reopen. If the president were to put in place some sort of a national order, which, again, would be more of a recommendation just based on again, we know on the way that the country works and the constitution, but even still, if that went into effect, saying open up in may, how would you handle that . Well, you know, i think that the president is doing what a president should do and thats be aspirational. When he talks about, you know, i want to open up he talked about by easter, and i dont think theres anything wrong with that. We all want to be optimistic but ultimately, every state is different, and were at a different stage in every state. As i talk to my fellow governors, each one is a different stage, so ultimately, were going to have to make that decision in ohio and whats best, you know, for our state based on the facts that are unique to ohio. As we look at whats happening across the country, we hear Different Things<\/a> from different cities and i know it depends on the day, how certain hospitals are doing. The president was asked specifically about whether those on the front lines have what they need yesterday at the task force briefing. Heres that moment. You and some of the officials paint a rosy picture of what is happening around the country. If you look at some of these questions, do we have enough masks . No. Do we have enough tests . No. Do we have enough ppe . No. Why would you say no . The answer is yes. I think the answer is yes. Who said no to that . Im saying, this is youre saying no but who said no . You asked me, do we have enough we hear from doctors. You didnt say that. You said, do we have enough masks . Does the country . Yes. The president went on to say that he does feel everybody has enough of what they need. What is the situation today in ohio, and how are your healthcare workers feeling about their needs . Well, we want to protect not only the healthcare workers, frankly, we would hope to protect the people, you know, who are working at nursing homes, not just the people in hospitals but the people in nursing homes, our first responders, weve also got people, you know, in Grocery Stores<\/a> who need to be protected, so were looking at it kind of from a wholistic point of view. If you ask me where we are, were a lot better than we were a week ago, and a whole lot better than we were two weeks ago. I mean, we were working on this last night. My staff stayed up until 3 00 a. M. , securing 5 million of the masks, the highgrade masks, theyre coming out of l. A. , and you know, were happy to have those. So, you know, these are important. Its important for us to be able to tell our Health Workers<\/a> we got your back and were going to do everything that we can to make sure that you have the equipment that you need. It sounds like it is it is an equation, as we hear from many officials that is changing sometimes by the hour. Quickly, before we let you go, your neighbor next door, governor the governor in kentucky, is concerned about a handful, he said, maybe six churches that are planning to hold Easter Services<\/a> tomorrow, and has put out word that they will take down license plate information, they will make sure they know who those folks are who are going to services saying what is really an act of faith, in his view, is sacrificing a little bit too protect your neighbor. Are you concerned at all about easter gatherings tomorrow in ohio . Well, heres what ive ive told, and most of our churches are doing this online. Theyre doing theyre great. You know, theyre pulling people together, but separating them physically. But what i said at a press conference this week, and i talked directly to the ministers who might be thinking about doing this, i said, look, theres no religion that im aware of where endangering someone else is considered to be a good thing. So, you know, please be very, very careful, and the vast, vast majority of our rabbis, our ministers, our priests in ohio are doing a great job. Theyve either cancelled services or theyre working it out so people can listen on the radio or they can listen on the internet. So, theyre people get it. Governor mike dewine, appreciate your time this afternoon, sir. Thank you. Thank you. In the crucial early days of the spread of coronavirus, a cnn investigation found the federal government actually blocked private labs from using tests. Those details are next. Youre live in the cnn newsroom. What happened daddy . Well, you see here. Theres a photo of you and theres a photo of your mommy and then theres a picture of me. But before our story it goes way, way, way back with your great, great, great grandparents. See this handsome man, his name is william. William fell in love with rose and they had a kid. His name was charles and charles met martha. Isnt she pretty . Yeah. 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But as cnns drew griffin reports, the federal government actively blocked those tests from being produced and being made available to the american public. Reporter as coronavirus was silently racing around the world in late january and early february, the federal government not only failed to use the massive arsenal of hundreds of laboratories across the United States<\/a> for emergency testing, it actually left roadblocks in place to prevent nongovernment labs from assisting. That is according to documents obtained by cnn and interviews with more than a dozen scientists and physicians involved in coronavirus testing. At the very beginning of this pandemic, it was the federal government that had the sole ability to do the testing and made it very difficult for private labs, for University Labs<\/a> to make their own tests based on certain regulatory hurdles. Reporter several hospital and universitybased labs have told cnn they saw the pandemic approaching, were developing their own tests as early as january to detect the virus, but the red tape with the fdas regulatory process prevented them from moving forward, meaning labs sat idle. Rather than enlisting the tremendous strength and power of the u. S. Laboratory capacity, getting everybody working on this and creating tests and having widespread test availability, we had cdc trying to keep running everything by itself. Reporter the federal government was prepared to enforce the rules, sending this memo on february 6th telling state Health Departments<\/a> to actively police against labs using their own coronavirus tests. The reasoning behind the tight regulations were good, assure the safety o and efficacy of tests, but dr. Glenn morris of the university of florida says the fda rules were written for normal situations, not a crisis. When we suddenly hit the point where we were looking at china and seeing what was going on there, what we needed was extremely aggressive leadership. Weve got to move fast, because otherwise were going to run into a problem. Reporter the problem developed as soon as the cdc rolled out its own test for verification. It didnt work. And weeks were lost as the cdc scrambled to make a new test. So we really were in a, basically, on a pause for a few weeks within the Public Health<\/a> system and meanwhile, the academic laboratories who had developed their own tests also were not able to test because the regulations didnt allow it at that time. Reporter whats even worse, in 2018, after the zika outbreak, the cdc came up with a plan to avoid the very testing disaster thats happening. Cnn obtained a copy of this memorandum of understanding between the commercial and public labs and the cdc that was supposed to increase National Laboratory<\/a> testing in an emergency by engaging commercial labs early in the response. It didnt work. Dr. Karen caw, who runs the Laboratory Services<\/a> for north Shore University<\/a> Health System<\/a> in evanston, illinois, was one of the labs pushing to launch us own test and was stopped by overbearing red tape. It seems like this has been a bit of a failure. I do think theres definitely room for improvement and whats happened is weve had a number of laboratories and a number of manufacturers and groups that are not all working together in a coordinated fashion. Reporter in a statement to cnn, the fda insists there was nothing wrong in its process and instead blames individual lab delays where labs did not understand the fda process and mistakenly believed there was more work involved. Despite that, the fda did publish new guidelines on february 29th allowing labs to begin testing. Experts tell cnn it was just too late. In a written response to cnns questions, the cdc said it did keep laboratory communities up to date and informed on what was happening, but the cdc did not answer questions on why the agency didnt pursue those laboratories getting involved in this massive Testing Program<\/a> sooner. Drew griffin, cnn, atlanta. Joining me now is dr. Patrice harris, she is president of the American Medical Association<\/a>. Doctor, good to have you with us. That report from drew shows how the federal government didnt use labs for emergency testing. In fact, actively kept those private labs from helping test for coronavirus. When the government ultimately did decide to move, i mean, how much was lost in that . Did they move too late . Did they have enough urgency . Well, erica, thank you for having me today, and certainly, we are behind when it comes to testing in this country, and there will be time and should be time for a thorough after action review in the early days and what happened with our Testing Capacity<\/a> and ability to ramp that up. But as of today, again, still being behind, we need an all hands on deck approach to get more widespread testing and we need the diagnostic testing, we need the Antibody Testing<\/a>, and thats why early on, the American Medical Association<\/a> asked the president to use all the levers within the federal government to ramp up not only testing but the supplies needed for testing, but also the personal protective equipment needed for physicians, nurses, and healthcare workers on the front lines. As you mentioned, testing, and weve talked so much this week about Antibody Testing<\/a>. Dr. Fauci saying that, you know, it could be available in a week or so. We know that here in new york state, the governor has said the department of health already has a test thats been approved in terms of Antibody Testing<\/a>. If it can be rolled out quickly, how much of the population should be getting that test . Well, certainly leave those specific numbers up to the epidemiologists and dr. Fauci to make that recommendation, but clearly, we certainly need more testing as soon as we can, and it will be important, and i think the Antibody Testing<\/a> will allow us to know those who may have had a mild or moderate course, even an asymptomatic course, and so we will have a better idea of how many folks have been infected, and that, actually, will be an important data point as we look ahead to reopening our country, if you will. The president has been aggressively promoting, as we know, the antimalaria drug, hydroxychloroquine, as a therapy for this virus. Top medical officials have signed off on it. I know you have a very strong opinion about this. And i want to touch on that, but i also want to play what the cdc director had to say at our town hall the other night when dr. Sanjay gupta asked him how he feels about recommending hydroxychloroquine. Im not going to recommend it and not going to not recommend it. Cdc as an organization, as you know, you and i have talked about it before, were not an opinion organization. Were a sciencebased, datadriven organization. At this moment in time, were not recommending it but were not not recommending it. Were recommending for the physician and patient to have that discussion. Science and data can, of course, influence an opinion. I know you are not on the fence about this one at all. Explain to our viewers your thoughts here. Well, the view of the American Medical Association<\/a> is hydroxychloroquine or any medicine that is untested for a particular disease needs to go through the rigorous Clinical Trial<\/a> process. Fortunately, that is under way at this point. Other therapies are being studied, and thats what we need to have before we recommend any medication. We have to start and end with the science and the evidence. Dr. Patrice harris, always appreciate you joining us. Thank you. Thank you. Coming up, italy, one of the countrys hit hardest by the coronavirus, the death toll there now nearing 20,000. We will take you live to italy next. Want to brain better . Unlike ordinary memory supplements neuriva has clinically proven ingredients that fuel 5 indicators of brain performance. Memory, focus, accuracy, learning, and concentration. Try neuriva for 30 days and see the difference. My skin gets so tired. This new olay serum feels so dewy, and hydrated. Gives my skin an extra boost of life. Its full of energy. It finally matches me. Im denise bidot, and my skin is powerful. And i can face anything with my olay. 450degree oven, to box, to you, know that from our its our policy that your pizza is never touched once it comes out of the oven. 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But the death rate is whats really devastating here. 600 today. The day before that, it was over 500 additional deaths. Its really taking a toll on the country when you consider how many sacrifices people are making, personal and economic, weve been in the lockdown now for well over a month. People have missed paychecks. People are in dire economic state, and were not seeing the results from that. A lot of that is because some people are just not respecting the lockdown. Theyve seen a lot of movement here in rome. Theyve Seen Movement<\/a> around in the north of the country too, the authorities are saying you just got to stay put, respect the lockdown for it to be effective, erica. Got to stay put and respect that lockdown. Barbie, thank you. For millions of people in the u. S. And around the world, respecting those restrictions, while also celebrating holy week and passover, well, it was a reminder of how much is different this year. So, how do you keep the faith and their traditions alive . Thats next. Youre live in the cnn newsroom. We cant offer much during this time of crisis, but we can offer what we have. So from all of us working early mornings on the farm, long days in the plant, or late nights stocking shelves doing all we can to get you the milk you need. We hope it makes your breakfast a little brighter. Your snacks more nutritious. And reminds you when it comes to caring, there is no expiration date. Milk. Love whats real. Did you know prilosec otc can stobefore it begins . Urn heartburn happens when stomach acid refluxes into the esophagus. Prilosec otc uses a unique delayedrelease formula that helps it pass through the tough stomach acid. It then works to turn down acid production, blocking heartburn at the source. With just one pill a day, you get 24hour heartburn protection. Prilosec otc. One pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. It is sure to be an easter performance like no other. Amazing grace, how sweet the sound legendary opera singer Andrea Bocelli<\/a> will perform ave maria and other sacred songs from an empty cathedral in milan tomorrow. He says he hopes his music will offer healing and hope to millions. Under typical circumstances, millions of families would be coming together this weekend to celebrate easter or maybe passover. This year, though, many are observing the holiday while staying far away from one another. Weve seen a number of zoom seders. Youre looking at one right now. And services are also adapting. Many places of worship, of course, are closed as cnns tom foreman reports, others are putting faith before health. Reporter in the holiest week of the year for christians, a battle is brewing between some government leaders convinced any churches still open are putting everyone at risk for the virus. Everyone needs to, right now, at this moment, act like you have it and thank god that you dont. Reporter and some religious folks who flatly disagree. We need to open up so that people that are spiritual need right now more than ever, our churches need to be open. Reporter government enthusiasm for cracking down on Worship Services<\/a> has been lukewarm in places. Of the more than 40 states with stayathome orders, 15 have given houses of worship exemptions despite outbreaks and fatalities already associated with religious gatherings such as here in california. In florida, where one pastor was arrested after a huge convocation, the Governors Office<\/a> has now defined worship as an essential service even though some municipalities strongly object. This is not only undermining our ability to implement social distancing here, its really undermining the sacrifices that millions of floridians have been making across the state for the past couple weeks. Reporter in louisiana, where the virus is raging, a baton rouge pastor is Still Holding<\/a> services allegedly drawing hundreds. The governor there . Were not going to enforce our way out of this. Reporter at the vatican, palm sunday typically draws massive crowds to st. Peter square. The view this year, startlingly different. And to be sure, many polices of worship in the United States<\/a> have shifted to online services. You know, easters the easiest day to preach because all of us long for hope. Reporter yet in some corners of the religious world, thats just not enough. So, in arkansas, the Awaken Church<\/a> continues to hold services while telling worshippers to spread out and avoid hugging or handshakes. The governor there is also pushing back only lightly. We dont recommend that, but if its within the guidelines and thats understandable. Joining me now, cnn religion commentator, father edward beck. Father beck, always good to see you. As we move into easter tomorrow, and we saw this with passover seders on wednesday and thursday night, most people are listening to these stayathome orders. As much as they may want to be at a service in that pew or be around the table with their family, whats your message, though, to those folks who say it is actually a sign of their devotion that they are showing up to a Church Service<\/a> where there will be dozens of other people, perhaps more . I would say that a sign of your devotion, if you really love god and neighbor, like we are commanded, it means stay home. You dont know if you are sick. You dont know if you will contract the illness. You could make matters worse, and i dont get how somebody cannot see that. I dont get so some people have said, well, god will protect me. The all of these people that got sick, god didnt protect . That doesnt make sense. How do you keep that community, that sense of community . For some people, whether its going to maybe a Sunrise Service<\/a> on easter, going to mass, or being at an Easter Egg Hunt<\/a> with family, these traditions really mean so much. How do you keep that tradition and sense of Community Going<\/a> . I think we have been creative with developing new ways during this pandemic. Its not ideal. I get that we want to hug one another, we want to receive communi communion, we want to sing songs together. But for this period, this isolation can teach us something new about spirituality. The pope standing alone in st. Peters square, he was connected to god and to us, and thats the heart of faith. You keep some traditions virtually, and we need to do it a different way this year, and maybe learn Something Different<\/a> about ourselves and our faith. I know you also had a funeral earlier this week. People are mourning in different ways as well. We had a heartbreaking story from ryan young about a family who couldnt be together. A woman who couldnt say goodbye to her husband, her daughter couldnt say goodbye to her father. How do you handle mourning . It was really hard, erica. We gathered at the gravesite, this elderly chinese woman had died. She had five children, and the cemetery only allowed ten people. We were standing there, it was her tomb, here grave. They gathered as couples physically distancing from each other. We prayed. The rain stopped, the sun came out as we were praying and they told stories about her. Its the mystery were celebrating right now. Its about being in the tomb, but its not the final word. She was alive in their love, and how she had left her imprint with them. And i couldnt sprinkle the holy water, so i was feeling a little badly about that. When we ended the service, the rain started, and the coffin got sprinkled with the rain. It was cinematic, you couldnt make it up. But there was such a peace with this family being there. Love is stronger than death, thats the message. Love ultimately prevails. Even if youre not christian, if you dont believe in the physical resurrection. An itinerant jewish preacher, 2,000 years ago, and now 2 billion people are following his message. I think love is a beautiful place to end this segment. Father, thank you, and happy easter. Thanks, erica. Happy easter to you. As we look at how this virus is affecting people around the country, we have a very real snapshot for you of life during the pandemic. This grandmother has dementia, but to brighten her day, she relies on visits through the window. Were going to see grandma. There she is the first time i saw her through the window, i was super emotional. I have never not been able to hug her or hold her hand. She doesnt understand why she cant come out, or why i cant go in. I could go with you. I do want you to come out, but right now i want you to stay healthy and safe. Oh, im not worried about that. I try to answer all her questions, but what is sinking in is not really clear. Shell ask, why cant you come in . Is it because of the dog . I think they allow dogs in here. Im just trying to maintain the connection she has to the rest of the family. Sometimes we just put our hands up against the window. She gets a kick out of that. Shes like, okay for now. But next time, were going to work Something Else<\/a> out, wink, wink. My skin gets so tired. This new olay serum feels so dewy, and hydrated. Gives my skin an extra boost of life. Its full of energy. It finally matches me. Im denise bidot, and my skin is powerful. And i can face anything with my olay. Thanks for joining us on this saturday. Im erica hill on cnn newsroom. The death toll in the u. S. Has now surpassed 20,000. And right now every state in the country is under a disaster declaration simultaneously. In new york state, more than 181,000 confirmed cases, more than any single country outside the u. S. In new york city, theres a fight over when the citys 1. 1 Million Students<\/a> will be back in the classroom. 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