Share this video, got it out to a lot of people beyond we are, we appreciate your perspective and stay safe and wish you the best of luck as you recover from the flood. I want to move on to chris turner, cnn photo journalist, who lives in maryland not far from this area. I know that and this is video that chris actually shot not too long ago. Chris, give me an idea of what you are seeing right now. Right now, ryan, we are seeing a lot of the water has receded. A lot of the mud and Debris Leftover is laying over. We saw Governor Hogan walk down the steps through the mud to survey the damage. Some of the residents are moving back towards the area. There was one area parking lot that i did take pictures of where the floodwaters were up to the roofs of cars and now just mud. But people are making their way through the mud kind of trying to assess the damage of what just happened. I see in that one bit of video that you shot it looks as though the pavement is just ripped apart creating a huge hole. We see cars being tossed and. Thats that video there. That is pretty remarkable. I mean, i know you live in this area. Have you ever seen anything like this before . You know, i remember in 2016 when the flood happened. My wife and kids were and i were, going to eat lunch here and decided against it for some reason and then next thing you know it was flooding. We have seen the video of the floods of 2016. I have rarely seen anything like that. I know that road that was washed away is an access point at the top of the hill coming down into the bottom of Historic DowntownEllicott City and thats going to take some definitely long time to repair. Theres a tree that was cracking as it was the soil eroding and falling in. It was very, very eerie to watch that happening. I can only imagine. And you i know you told our producers you smelled gas at one point. I would imagine theres more than concern about the water damage when you have Something Like this happen. Theres a multitude of concerns here. Theres mud damage. Theres, you know, you never know whats underneath but this waters pushing a car swiftly down the street so you never know what that car hit, what that waters done inside homes. There was a smell of gas. They did ask us to back off and now let us back towards the scene of all this destruction. And hopefully, you know, this beautiful, quaint little downtown can get back to normal soon. Yeah. Chris turner, just one small example of cnn photojournalists that rush to danger when everybody else is rushing out, thank you for bringing us the Incredible Pictures. Please stay safe. And well check back with you in a little bit. Now the full scope of exactly whens happening there by bringing in Meteorologist Tom Seder with experience covering the weather in the washington, d. C. And baltimore areas. Tom, what should we expect . Are residents there through the worst of it . Well, ryan, we have got good news and bad news. This is bad enough. The third round of thunderstorms moving in have really weakened so therefore the waters receding but the river has risen almost 18 feet in 2 hours setting an alltime record crest. Unbelievable. Focus on just the eastern and southeastern u. S. We have been stuck in a pattern for three weeks now where theres a stationary boundary across washington and baltimore, spreading back to the midwest. So the southeast is hitting seeing thunderstorms, grounds satch waite saturated and alberto. That is nuance storm. We need to watch it because the
moisture is lifting northward boo this area this week but if you follow the thunderstorms and the lightning strikes, round one and two and three. One, two on the same area. We call it training riding right on the front call area. This is the third one thats dying out. National weather service, believe it or not saying we thought sure six, seven, eight inches, theyre saying 6 to 12 inches of rain fallen. Thats like a Freak Of Nature and water rescues, highway 29 in columbia. Youve got Ellicott City, an Emergency Warning extended to 10 30 and for howard county, you head into east central Frederick County and maryland, anyone along the banks of the petasco river to get to the highest ground they can. Ten inches of rain. This fell in a short amount of time and whats really staggering here is this is the
water gauge. In two hours, above the record which was 23. 6 feet. Hits 24. 13. Thats almost a 18foot rise in 2 hours. Therefore, an alltime record. But the rain is lightening up. We have to watch the precipitation shield up to the north from alberto. Anything can had buts. A Freak Of Nature. Six to 12 inches, almost unheard of. The gauges fall in line with what kali told us, she said a dry street and within a half an hour, a raging, powerful river. Absolutely Incredible Pictures out of maryland. Tom, thank you for that. Well continue to follow the breaking news. Well be right back. Your company is constantly evolving. screaming laughing screaming its me come here oh my. applause vocalizing dad, over phone just like that . vocalizing continues
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extent, remember, dana, were defending it is for Public Opinion because eventually the decision here is going to be impeach not impeach. Members of Congress Republican and democrat will be informed a lot by the constituent and the jury as it should be is the american people. Impeach or not impeach. Boris sanchez at the white house, despite the apparent pr strategy against mueller, he says he wants to do an interview with him. Reporter surprising considering the string of attacks of President Trump and the surrogates aiming to discredit the Special Counsel. Today the president referred to it as a witch hunt and referred to russias actions in the 2016 election as socalled Meddling Depyett the fact that there have been more than 20 indictments in that probe including to some dozen or so russians who have been indicted for meddling in the 2016 election. It is surprising, also notable,
that giuliani claimed that this investigation would already be over if the president didnt have this adamant stance he wants to meet with Robert Mueller one on one. Listen to this exchange with dana bash on state of the union. Well, if he wasnt thinking about it and it wasnt an active possibility we would be finished with that and moving on to getting the investigation over another way. He is adamant in wanting to do it. We are the president , but were more convinced as we see its a rigged investigation. Now we have this whole new spygate thing thrown on top of it, already very legitimate questions. Reporter and, ryan, one more note. The president tweeting about the russia investigation over the weekend, including one sort of curious tweet he sent out this morning referring the Young And Beautiful lives that have been destroyed by the russia investigation. Unclear exactly who he means. I reached out to some folks in
the White House Press team to try to get some clarity on this. Is he talking about George Papadopoulos or Michael Flynn or other figures in the campaign that pled guilty to serious crimes . No response from the white house, ryan. Boris sanchez at the white house, thank you. Coming up, the panel weighs in on Rudy Giuliani admissions and Hawaii On High alert. Lava reaching 2,000 acres. We are live on the big island. Dray, when he was younger, he loved to smile; and we knew he would need braces because his teeth were coming in funny. This is the picture that was on the front page of the newspaper. All you can notice is the braces then, once he got to michigan state, he broke the retainer my bottom teeth, they were really crooked, and i just wasnt getting braces again. Then i discovered smiledirectclub. Its easy to just grab it and go and i can change it on the road. I did photoshoots with my aligners in and you cant see them. A smile is a first impression, thats why i think having a great smile is so important. President talking about and not talking about with Special CounselRobert Mueller. Listen. If mueller everything can be worked out then they would probably limit it to collusion and obstruction. The collusion part, were pretty comfortable with because theres been none. The Obstruction Part im not as comfortable with. The president is fine with it. Hes innocent. All right. Lets bring in the panel to discuss this. Joining us from kentucky, Cnn Political Commentator and former Special Assistant to president george w. Bush scott jennings. And in our nations capital, the Deputy Managing Editor kelly jane torrens. Isnt that a target knowing what the lawyers are uncomfortable about talking about him with . Yeah. You know, ryan, i have to say i take a little bit of a contrarian stance on Rudy Giuliani. I know a lot of people in washington think, you know, hes
whats going on with him . Little crazy. Saying this and that. Goes on the shows, says too much but i think the most telling thing he said in this interview today on cnn was talking about not making trump the victim. Now, trump himself with his tweets constantly tries to make himself the victim of Robert Muellers investigation. But Rudy Giuliani said that he doesnt want to talk about trump firing someone because that would make trump look like a victim and that was the problem with Richard Nixon. Once you look like a victim of this youre a victim because you didnt something wrong and so Rudy Giulianis the first lawyer of Donald Trumps thats really heavily gone on the offense. It is controversial tactic but the other tactics didnt work very well and perhaps this one will. Going on the offense means attempting at least in some respect to undermine the credibility of the Mueller Investigation and, scott, a poll found 39 of republicans think trump should testify with robert
mueller. Thats down from 54 in march. I mean, how much do you think that President Trumps decision to either sit or not sit for an interview could impact republicans in the midterm elections . Well, i think republicans by and large believe this investigation has gone on too long. They do want to see it concluded and they do want to know if Russia Meddled in the election but i think republicans think the president is unfairly targeted. I think what rudy and company are doing right now, though, is basically what the Clinton White house did in the 1990s. You brought up some polling. What the Clinton White house successfully able to do is target the Special Counsel, the people around ken starr, make it seem like they were unfairly treated. Bill clintons poll numbers went up and up and up. People lost faith in the Special Counsel and they knew what rudy knows, unlikely to indict a sitting president and aimed at the only political resolution, impeachment in the court of Public Opinion. The way i see it, bill clintons Vast Right Wing Conspiracy is Donald Trumps deep state. Theyre running essentially the same playbook. Very similar. There is evidence, kelly jane, its already working. The same poll finds 44 of people agree with the way that mueller is handling the investigation down from 48 in march. Is this the proof that the president s attacks and what Rudy Giuliani is talking about essentially this political pr campaign that its working . I think it is because lets face it. We dont actually know very much about how Robert Mueller is handling this probe. He does not go on the air. He is not tweeting. He is keeping very quiet. There have been some leaks but it seems to me that the leaks came from people who have been interviewed by Robert Mueller or people connected to them. Not people on the team itself. And so, i think this pr tactic is working because robert muler is keeping very we dont know what information he has. And thats why we cant make a
prior judgment about whether his investigation is, you know, fair or not until we see what his evidence and when he presents it but i think, yes, the pr strategy that to me says it is working and i have to say this whole new stuff of spygate, that has nothing to do with Robert Muellers probe. That was the fbi listening before Robert Mueller came on before donald trump was elected. But theyre successfully connecting those things in the publics mind and i think youre right, ryan. Poll numbers show it having affect. The Average American is not watching every machinations of this investigation and compare ones a the effect to another. They lump it altogether. Thats part of the effectiveness of Throwing Spygate out there and connecting to Robert Mueller and doesnt necessarily add up. Scott, to that end, you know, ultimately if Robert Mueller has the goods on donald trump that may still convince the president to fire him or Rod Rosenstein and there are many republicans
who at least behind the scenes that are talking about being concerned about that and only one of them talking about it publicly and thats senator jeff flake. Listen to what he said this morning. Behind the scenes there is a lot of alarm. Theres concern that the president is laying the groundwork to move on bob mueller or rosenstein. And if that were to happen, obviously, that would cause a constitutional crisis. There is concern behind the scenes. Ive been concerned that we havent spoken up loudly enough and told the president you simply cant go there. And hes obviously probing the edges as much as he can. Right. To see how far congress will go. And weve got to push back harder than we have. Scott, ive heard you many times and the best thing for the president to is allow the investigation to go forward. Do you think republicans in congress should actually codify that in law, protect robert
muellers investigation with a piece of legislation . No, i dont. I dont think its necessary because i dont think the president s going to fire anybody. I think theyre going to let the investigation go forward. We have essentially been having the same conversation now for months an months. Will we wake up tomorrow and find that donald