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CNNW CNN Newsroom With Ana Cabrera November 25, 2017

Source says it could be a sign that flynn is preparing to plead guilty. A white house Attorney Says dont make too much into this, lawyers can pull out of sharing arrangements for a variety of reasons. Talk to us about flynns role and the kind of information he could offer so they would be negotiating. So theres tons of various information places that they can go, that investigators can go if Michael Flynn was cooperating, providing information. He was part of the trump campaign, he was close to the president at the time, and he was in on meetings. He was in on meetings where certain Foreign Policy decisions were made, where strategy was discussed. Some of perhaps maybe issues of russia came up. Thats where he would be helpful to investigators part of muellers team. Less obvious stuff, this is also important, that flynn has his own relationship, his own contacts with russia. Remember, he spent some time in russia, went to a dinner, sat next to the russian president. Perhaps theres information from those meetings when he was there that there could be information that can be helpful to investigators because the appropriate is larger than just an investigation into obstruction, and just contacts by people in the trump campaign, it also stretches to people in russia and what were they doing. So there he could be helpful as well. But the key really is to get an inside picture perhaps of what was going on in the campaign. And thats obviously whats on everyones mind and probably most important here. If flynn is cooperating, that wouldnt be surprising, considering he asked for immunity before. That immunity came to the hill, capitol hill and senators and congressional investigators wanted to talk to him, his lawyer essentially said he would only talk if they give him immunity, more out of concern that he somehow may perjure himself or find a way for perjury charges. It would be surprising to people at the white house and people close to the president and people close to Michael Flynn that he would be cooperating. All along, he has given indication he has done nothing wrong and really whats important is that he has no information to give, he has no information to share, so his cooperation would not be fruitful for investigators. So it would be somewhat surprising. What would not be surprising, ana, is that he is working on a plea deal with bob mueller to end his case, admit to whatever it is the government wants him to admit to, and move on and deal with punishment that would ultimately be decided by a judge, so it wouldnt be surprising that he would be pleading guilty given everything that investigators seem to be uncovering about him, but it would be i think surprising that he would be cooperating with those investigators and providing information on people, whether from the campaign or wherever it is. We know that he is concerned also about his sons potential legal outcome here regarding this investigation. Thats another reason to cooperate. Thank you for that reporting. Richard painter, and carrie sheffield. I start with you. Jay sekulow says the decision to stop sharing information with the White House Legal Team doesnt mean that flynn is cooperating. What else could it mean . Well, i dont know, well find out. If he is preparing to plead guilty, he may not want to share information with other lawyers, may or may not be cooperating. We dont know. Only Robert Mueller knows. We know that he repeatedly lied about his contacts with the russians and probably lied about contacts with the turkish government, so hes in a heap of trouble. His son may be in trouble too. Whether he rolls on other people and discloses other information is something only Robert Mueller would know at this point in time. I dont think it is useful to speculate. He used to be part of the current administration. Given that fact, should the white house be concerned . I believe richard is right, we shouldnt be speculating. If you look at the watergate case, not analogous, but useful way to think about how white houses deal with legal jeopardy, when one member of the president s team turned on the white house, that complicated the defense strategies, the chief of staff and chief domestic. One of the things of having everyone on the same side, Defense Attorneys make sure everyone is speaking from the same page and that there are not openings that a prosecutor could use to look for new information. With flynn leaving that group, that just introduces all kiennd of mysteries that make it more difficult for the defense team. Carrie, whats your take. Should the white house be concerned . The president has been very clear that he said for months, im not sure if i agree with the characterization there was a turning. I think the president was clear, he said for months that if there was someone in my orbit doing anything untoward, unethical, i want this person or people rooted out. He said that repeatedly. I dont think this is a bombshell in any respect. I do think this is actually a reset button for the country, say what kind of country do we want to have, and the Washington Post reported for two decades, now is the moment when more people are more transparent about lobbying, more people on both sides of the aisle. Saw podesta group, tony was the brother of Hillary Clintons Campaign Manager who was implicated in this probe. Thats so not related to what we are discussing. When you talk about the president s desire to have these people rooted out, remind everybody this is a president who tried to prevent the former fbi director from investigating flynn who was his National Security adviser at the time, and apparently flynn is now in contact with the mueller investigation, maybe working on some kind of plea deal. You dont think the president should be concerned . I think what happened early in the administration, youre right, that the president never held office, never been a public servant, i think he was learning to understand the limits of his power. I am glad that he appears to have learned and understands his power. I think his impulse is to fight back. Someone hits me, hit back ten times harder. You cant do that with the fbi director. Kelly is anchoring him. You see the president when you have the manafort indictment, his impulse was to perhaps do something in response. I think general kelly is a stabilizing influence. I am sure you can speak more looking historically at the influence of chief of staff. I am glad general kelly is that stabilizing force. Richard, i cant imagine is handing out deals. What would flynn have to offer to cut a deal . Thats up to Robert Mueller. He is a professional. He knows what he is doing. I think he will uncover whats happened here. There are a lot of people in this administration lying about russia. Some of the lying is not illegal. If the president wants to continue to lie, say there was no collaboration with russia, he can do that on twitter. People lie under oath, lie on disclosure forms, Financial Disclosure forms, security clearance forms, theyre going to get criminally prosecuted. This Administration Needs to start grappling with the truth. It is nauseating. I have been a republican 30 years. George w. Bush, to bring out Hillary Clinton is nauseating. They have to stop doing this, start telling the country the truth, all of them, including the president. Take a look at this. So far 51 communications of various sorts documented between Trump Associates and russians. We should point out that winning u. S. President ial campaigns are approached by governments all over the world for obvious reasons, but weve also had nine blanket denials by those people in trumps orbit about the contacts. Are those denials a problem, any haunting the Trump Administration and is that whats the root of the problem here . The root of the problem could be that some criminal activity occurred, we dont know. The blanket denials are problematic because they made it easy to prove falsehood. You say i never met someone, then evidence appears you did pop dop loss lying to the fbi. Not only lying in that instance, raises the question you have been lying all along. Blanket denials by the trump team have definitely hurt them. Number two, the other thing thats interesting, we saw with manafort and it is likely with flynn, they have other legal jeopardy issues that have nothing to do with russian collusion. But they can use those, saying you may get a lighter sentence, plead guilty to what you did with turkey, perhaps, case of flynn, manafort, money received through cyprus, help with the other case. The fact they have legal jeopardy outside of collusion with russia makes them even more vulnerable to a prosecutor. Do you have a problem with lack of transparency . Absolutely. I want transparency, disclosure, all lobbies disclosing all of that. I dont think anyone in the conservative movement would disagree with that, anyone seeking the public interest. I will say that i think that looking and talking to a lot of fellow conservatives, what we feel upset by the distraction of this, to say the reason President Trump won and both houses of congress were given to republicans was to pass a conservative jaenagenda. Thats what the states where i am from care about. We want Kitchen Table issues addressed. A lot of it seems to be distraction. So it is about saying lets not be distracted, be the signal in the midst of this noise. Mueller needs to have his power respected, but at the same time, lets not keep the eye off the ball. Have to leave it there. Thank you. Appreciate all of you. Turning to what appears to be the deadliest terror attack ever on egyptian soil. More than 300 people are dead, including at least 27 children. After more than two dozen militants stormed a mosque. One carried an isis flag as he entered the house of worship. So far, no claim of responsibility. Lets get to ben wedeman. Egypts military is hunting for the attackers. What are you hearing . Reporter we understand from the military, ana, they carried out air strikes where they claim some vehicles used by the terrorists were hit. It is important to underscore the Egyptian Military does not allow journalists egyptian or otherwise into the sinai, we have to take them at their word. We see the Public Prosecutor of egypt did put out a statement in which he described in forensic detail what happened at the mosque, according to him. The statement said that five suvs showed up outside this mosque carrying somewhere between 25 and 30 militants, some wearing combat fatigues, all armed with heavy machine guns. They surrounded the mosque, many entrances, also at the 12 windows of the mosque, let off some sort of explosion, and opened fire, killing according to official news agency at least 305 people, including 27 children. The Public Prosecutor as you mention did say somebody, one of the attackers was carrying an isis flag. Until now, isis itself hasnt claimed responsibility for the attack. Ana . This mosque has special significance. How so . Reporter this is a mosque built by members of sufi order. The sufis are muslim mystics, traditionally not involved in politics, theyre much more focused on the direct connection between the individual and god so theyre not interested in forcing women to cover up, cutting off peoples head and what not, its all about your spirituality, not forcing others to follow your line. And as a result of that they are not looked on well by people like isis who have in the past, for instance, we did see that earlier this year in one of the online magazines of isis kman commander to suv fis repent or killed. Last year, they kidnapped and beheaded a 100yearold sufi mystic when he refused to repent in their terms. One of the theories is that perhaps this mosque was targeted because of its affiliation with the sufis. Others believe this is a town where many inhabitants cooperated with the egyptian army, with the Egyptian Security and this was an attack in revenge for that. So we will wait and see to find out. Ana . Ben wedeman, thank you. Still ahead this hour, we know their names. The navy is releasing photos of the three sailors still missing in the pacific. And looking at live pictures outside the funeral of a texas Border Patrol agent. His death a mystery a week later. We go there coming up. And later, stunning escape, north korean regime making changes after one of their own soldiers bolted across the border into south korea. The north could be worried it could happen again. Live in the cnn newsroom. Work overtime when i can get it. I need my blood sugar to stay in control. I need to cut my a1c. Weekends are my time. I need an insulin that fits my schedule. Tresiba® ready announcer tresiba® is used to control high blood sugar in adults with diabetes. Dont use tresiba® to treat diabetic ketoacidosis, during episodes of low blood sugar, or if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. Dont share needles or insulin pens. Dont reuse needles. 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Polo sandoval joins us now. This is the personal side of these heroes. The navy had been holding off releasing information until they could notify families. Today, this information released by the government. I want to tell you a little about these men now identified by the u. S. Navy as lieutenant steven combs, man from florida assigned to providers fleet of Logistical Support squadron 30. Matthew chialastri from louisiana was assigned to uss Ronald Reagan as was bryan grosso from florida. They did not survive the crash earlier this week, among 11 crew and passengers on a Navy Transport plane that crashed as it approached an air carrier wednesday in the western pacific. At least 8 of those individuals were rescued by officials, both from japan and the u. S. , they covered about 1,000 nautical miles in a desperate search for any sign of the three men, sadly presumed dead by the navy and now family members are aware, their sons will not come home. This investigation is ongoing now. We understand Japanese Defense minister said they believe engine trouble may be to blame, but the investigation is still ongoing. And yet this is a tough year for the navy, seventh fleet specifically, lost 17 Service Members in a number of different incidents. Whats going on . 17 men and women there. Important to point out this has happened over time, you look at the list, it is tragic to see lives are lost after these incidents. August, the collision with the uss mccain. Back in june, missile destroy are, fitzgerald collided with cargo ship, seven dead there. Two fatal incidents out of the list were later determined to be avoidable and also the result of, quote, numerous failings occurred on the part of leadership according to a navy report, so clearly some serious issues there, some top Navy Officers lost jobs over this. Important to point out with loss of the three men, it seems this was an accident. Theyre still investigating. As we mentioned, believe engine trouble may be to blame. A different situation. Nonetheless, tragic for the three men not coming home. Polo sandoval, thank you. Infighting in the Trump Administration is threatening to overshadow a major global summit. State Department Officials tell cnn the u. S. Is not sending a high level delegation to next weeks Global Entrepreneurship summit in india. The main reason, secretary of state Rex Tillerson doesnt want to support ivanka trump who is leading the delegation at this event. Senior Diplomatic Correspondent michelle could s michelle kosinski. This is a big event, put on by the state department. This year, first daughter and senior white house adviser ivanka trump is headlining it. She leaves this weekend. She was invited by the indian prime ministe

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