more difficult autumn and winter. and breonna taylor's family speaks out against louisville police as the city faced another night of protests. live from cnn world headquarters in atlanta, welcome to you, our viewers here in the united states, and around the world, i'm kim brunhuber, this is "cnn newsroom." u.s. president donald trump is expected to nominate federal appeals court judge amy coney barrett to replace the late ruth bader ginsburg at the u.s. supreme court. that's according to multiple sources. the president said he'll announce his choice on saturday. barrett is a favorite among conservatives and senate republicans are gearing up for a quick confirmation. the process normally takes several months, but president trump's allies in congress hope to have ginsburg's vacancy filled before the november election. we get more from cnn's jessica schneider on the woman expected to be nominated later today. >> reporter: people who know 48-year-old amy coney barrett say her family is her number-one priority, and she made sure they were front and center at her 2017 confirmation hearing for the seventh circuit. >> we have our oldest three daughters with us today -- >> reporter: barrett proudly showcased all seven of her children including vivian and john, whom she and her husband adopted from haiti. >> vivian is our miracle. she was born in haiti and came home, she was 14 months old, weighed 11 pounds. she was so weak, we were told she might never walk normally or speak. today vivian is a stormtracker star and has no trouble talking. benjamin has special needs. that presents unique challenges for all of us. i think all you need to know with benjamin's place in the family is summed up by the fact that the other children unreservedly identify him as their favorite sibling. roy barrett's large family is just two children vie of matching the latest justice antonin school -- scalia's. >> it was intimidating working for him. when he called you to the office, you had to be prepared to talk about whatever it was. he was always five steps ahead of you. >> one of my friends said judge barrett is the kind of person and judge that you would want to be the judge in a case if you didn't know which side you were going to be on. >> reporter: carter need? is part of barrett's close-knit group of friends in south bend, indiana. he also has an adopted child and bonded with the barrett family when it came to kids and cooking. >> she and her family host extraordinary parties for mardi gras. she's from new orleans. she cooks creole cuisine and makes jambalaya and red beans and rice and crawfish. >> reporter: one issue that has come up before for judge barrett -- how she balances her faith and the law. >> if you're asking whether i take my faith seriously and i'm a faithful catholic, i am. i would strengtss that my religs belief would not bear on the discharge. my duties as a judge. >> reporter: senator feinstein drew criticism with her sharp questions about barrett's religion in 2017. >> you have a long history of believing that your religious beliefs should prevail. the dogma lives loudly within you. >> reporter: as barrett emerged as the front-runner this week, her association with a denominational christian group called people of praise, began drawing attention. the board of governors is all male and has referred to women as handmaids in the past, a term that has since been dropped by the group. a spokesman for people of praise tells cnn christian leadership in no way involves superiority or domination among spouses. but we have chosen to rely on male leadership at the highest level of our community based on our desire to be a family of families. we follow the new testament teaching that the husband is the head of the family, and we have patterned our community on this new testament approach to family life. put aside barrett's potential past or present membership, judge barrett has made clear she leaves her religion out of her judicial opinions. >> it's never appropriate for a judge to impose that judge's personal convictions, whether they derive from faith or any did whe anywhere else on the law. >> reporter: cnn, washington. with us from london to talk about all of this is kate andrews, journalist and commenter to for "the spectator." thank you so much for joining us. we're hearing more and more details about the presumptive pick. so will it be the enormous shift in the supreme court's center of gravity that everyone's presuming it will be? >> yes, in terms of how you interpret the constitution. there will be a stricter constitutional interpretation, a more conservative leaning one, now weighed 6-3. no doubt this will have an impact on the court for a generation. understandably so, as politics has creeped more and more into the institutions of america. people who wouldn't interpret the constitution in that way are feeling increasingly nervous about this appointment. one of the biggest tasks of the president of the united states is to pick -- to nominate the supreme court judges. oftentimes they're overlooked, what an immense power that is, i would argue one of most important the president has. >> the supreme court over the supreme court nominee, we know it will be fast. how furious will it be? what strategy do you expect the democrats to use in the confirmation hearings? will it be less sort of personal, more focused on her record? >> i think it will be less personal. i think that the way that the nomination of kavanaugh backfired on the democrats significantly, i think that very much played in the president's favor at the time. as well the democrats have to be careful, judge barrett's religious affiliations nothing to attack. she is a proud catholic and has made very clear that she will not allow that to impact on her rulings as a judge at any level. so i suspect that the take that the democrats will go with is the future rulings, what this could mean for obamacare, what this could mean for roe v. wade, trying to keep a bit of an arm's length, making it less personal about barrett and mother nature about the outcomes of legislation. >> one of the most important ones might be the very presidency. president trump has basically said he needs the supreme court pick in case the election results end up before the court. is that a real possibility? i mean, obviously the democrats think so, they've already said the nominee should recuse themselves from those types of cases. >> i'm increasingly worried that it is. i think the way that the election is going, the rhetoric being ramped up on both sides about how both sides are going to try to rig it is increasingly worrying. with all of the mail-in ballots, we may not have a result on election night, something that hasn't happened in america for quite a left wing time. i think those -- a long time. i think those seeds of doubt could be planted among half the voting population depending on which way you want this result to go. so i actually do think that it's a strong case to say that we need a court that is acting and fully up and running in case they have to come into this decision. i don't know necessarily why a new appointee would recuse themselves if we believe that they are interpreting the constitution and not bringing in their own bias over preference, and shouldn't need to recuse themselves. it goes to the point that all of america's institutions have become increasingly political. i think it's a tragedy that we don't believe it something like the supreme court can be absent of politics, especially in a case like this. >> yeah. absolutely. i couldn't agree more. thank you so much, kate andrews in london. appreciate it. >> thanks. well, meanwhile, president trump continues to mislead his supporters with false claims about the upcoming election. he told a rally in virginia he'll only lose if there's cheating and mischief. at a campaign stop in atlanta he treated the uproar over his recent transcomment as a joke. -- transition comments as a joke. here's jim acosta. [ chants ] >> reporter: as supporters chanted "12 more years" at a campaign event, president trump mocked the firestorm he created over his refusal to commit to a peaceful transfer of power in a election. >> i told you he's a dictator. he will not give up power. under no circumstances will he give up power. he intends to serve at least two more terms. >> reporter: earlier in the day, white house chief of staff mark meadows amped up the campaign season uncertainty. blasting fbi director christopher wray for stating the facts, that there is no widespread evidence of voter fraud. >> with all due report to inspector wray he has a hard time finding emails in his own fbi let alone figuring out whether there's any voter fraud. >> reporter: that was in response to wray who pushed back on the president's false conspiracy theory that mail-in ballots will lead to a rigged election. >> we have not seen historically any kind of coordinated national voter fraud effort in a major election, whether by mail or otherwise. >> get rid of the ballots, and you'll have a very -- we'll have a peaceful -- there won't be a transfer, frankly. there will be a continuation. >> reporter: the president's threats don't seem to worry democrat joe biden who's laughing off the controversy. >> every vote in this country is going to be heard. they'll not be stopped. i'm confident all the irresponsible, outrageous claims on voting will continue as they always will have, and he'llrmed attorney general william barr briefed the president on an investigation into a handful of discarded mail-in ballots for mr. trump in pennsylvania. the president referenced the situation on fox radio. >> they had trump written on it and were thrown in the gash an can. this -- gash an can. this is going to happen. >> reporter: and they spoke about the attorney general issuing press release on the case. >> i can confirm that trump ballots, ballots for the president were found in pennsylvania. >> reporter: the controversy over the president's transfer of power remarks have raised alarm bells at the pentagon where officials are worried mr. trump would try to use the military to quell any unrest over the election results. the use of federal forces during protests in june led the defense secretary to warn he won't be cowed into deploying u.s. service members on to american streets. >> the option to use active duty forces in a law enforcement role should only be used as a matter of last resort and only in the most urgent and dire of situations. >> reporter: on the coronavirus, cnn ms. learn thursday are growing concerns inside the centers for disease control over the president's handling of the pandemic. with one official saying the morale as low as i've seen it, we have no confidence in our leadership. president trump continues to claim that scientists are delaying the release of a vaccine to damage his election chances. >> they're trying to do a little bit of a political hit. let's delay the vaccine just a little bit. >> reporter: the president is losing patience with cdc director robert redfield who has slammed the nation of some deep state conspiracy. >> i want to add how disappointed i have been personally when people at hhs made comments this they felt there was a deep state at cdc. >> reporter: as for the matter of discarded ballots in pennsylvania, officials say the issue was caused by a temporarily seasonal independent contractor. the contractor, the official said, threw the ballots into the office trash in error, and officials there said that error was quickly notice. and investigated. the officials said the contractor was told not to return. jim acosta, cnn, the white house. a winter warning from u.s. health officials. cold weather could bring a surge in new coronavirus infections. and the uk has set a new and tragic coronavirus record for the second day in a row. we'll have that story and more after the break. stay with us. hey allergy muddlers... achoo! ...do your sneezes turn 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back guarantee. brand power. helping you buy better. health officials are warning that as temperatures drop in the fall, coronavirus cases' numbers will rise. fall and winter will be challenging according to the top u.s. infectious disease expert, and the nation should get ready. the doctor runs an influential coronavirus model also is warn being a coming surge in new infections. fall brings flu season, as well, and cold weather forces activities indoors where it's easier for the virus to spread. now all of this as a study of dialysis patients finds fewer than 10% have antibodies for covid-19, meaning that 90% had no immunity to the virus at all. new case numbers are raising in 23 states. that's obviously almost half of the u.s. but mostly increases are centered in the midwest and u.s. heartland. we have more along with the staggering number of infections reported by the u.s. something looks off here -- >> reporter: seven million covid cases now confirmed in the united states. more than double europe's case count, and many more people live there. >> unlike europe, unlike asian countries, we are starting off the fall/winter with a i had level of infection. >> reporter: and here's where we are. new york state is now creating its own task force to review any vaccine approved by the feds. frankly, i'm not going to trust the federal government's opinion, said governor andrew cuomo, despite this pledge -- >> our experts who know about vaccines will make this determination, and it will be only based upon the science and the data, not politics. that's my pledge. >> reporter: one influential model now predicts 3,000 americans will be dying every day by the end of the year. more than triple our current toll. if 95% of americans would wear masks, those researchers say it would save nearly 100,000 lives by january 1st. but apparently only 48% of us are willing to mask up. >> is this what i -- >> reporter: meanwhile, the mask-averse governor of missouri and the state's first lady have both now tested positive for covid-19. so have the pro-mask first lady and governor of virginia. as i've been reminding virginians throughout this crisis, wrote governor northam, covid is very real and very contagious. >> given the fact that we have never got down to a good baseline, we are still in the first wave. >> reporter: all that red, those are states where average case counts are right now rising. in colorado, around 1,000 confirmed cases now at cu boulder. >> i'm honestly frustrated and disappointed that these officials couldn't have seen the writing on the wall. >> reporter: still, out west a limited pac 12 football season will kick off early november. the league had said there would be no play until next year. different folks, different strokes. new york and florida, both holding steady for now, today florida moves into phase-three opening. >> what will that mean for the restaurants is there will not be limitations from the state of florida. >> reporter: meanwhile, new york city just made the outdoor dining option permanent and year round. here in california, now more than 800,000 confirmed cases. that is more cases than all but three countries on earth. and meanwhile, new york's governor cuomo calls the federal response to this virus the worst of any country on earth. nick watt, cnn, los angeles. dr. fauci's seeking to calm fears that politics will influence the vaccine approval process. during a conversation with the editor-in-chief of "the "journal of the american medical association,"" dr. fauci explained why he believes it's unlikely political interference will play a role. >> the big elephant in the room is there's somebody going to try to interfere are the process. let's call it what it is because everybody talks about that. >> thank you. >> it's the elephant in the room. so if you look at the standard process of how these things work, i think you could feel comfortable that it is really unlikely that that's going to happen. here's the reason why -- so each of these vaccines has a data and safety monitoring board that's independent, is not beholden to the company, not beholden to the administration, not beholden to fda, not beholden to me, to nobody. what they do is that they are the ones that get the data, they have scientists, clinicians, vaccinologists, and statisticians. and they at predetermined times look at the data. nobody else has access to that data. >> he also warned that it will take months to return to normal even after a vaccine is discovered. in the coming hours, british prime minister boris johnson is set to deliver a call for unity to the united nations general assembly. johnson will urge the world to unite against coronavirus, which he calls a common foe. he'll also lay out a five-point plan to prevent future pandemics. it comes as the uk reports its highest daily increase in coronavirus cases since the pandemic began for a second consecutive day. scott mclean is live in london. what's the latest? >> reporter: hey, kim. at least on paper the uk has surpassed the first peak of the infections, but in reality the health minister says that the 6,000-plus cases a day that are being reported actually pale in comparison to the first wave where he thinks that the vast majority of cases simply weren't being caught by the limited testing that they had. hospitalizations, for instance, were 12 times higher back in the spring compared to what they are today. the overall trend is not good. in response, government has brought in new rules, to strengthen existing rules, and brought in a contact-tracing app which should be able to detect whether someone in close proximity to you have tested positive for the virus. almost two years ago the prime minister announced the rule of six -- limiting social gatherings to no more than six people across england regardless of how many households were involved. that, though, has proven not previously the silver bullet that perhaps the government hoped that it would be because the r rate, reproduction rate, has risen between 1.2 and 1.5. for every ten people that get infected, they'll pass it on to 12 to 15 other people. the prime minister continues to plead with people to to follow the rules. he's promising higher fines for rule-breakers, promising the president will get more strict with enforcement, offering the option to call in the military if needed. the london met police, though, they say that they're still going to encourage people to follow the rules and use only fines and arrests as a last resort. which may end up being a problem because a new study out this week shows that when it comes to quarantine, at least, self-isolation, most people are not following the rules. in fact, only one in five people, less than one in five, in fact, people who had covid-19 symptoms were actually self-isolating. even fewer than that actually got a test. here's the worst part -- only one out of every nine people contacted by government contact tracers and told to self-isolate actually did for two weeks. kim? >> all right. thanks for that. scott mclean in london. a federal judge in montana has removed the acting director of the bureau of land management who's a climate change skeptic after finding he served unlawfully for 424 days. montana's governor had challenged william perry pendley's role arguing he'd never been nominated by the president or confirmed by the senate, so he was ineligible for the job. the interior secretary nominated penley to be the permanent director in july, but the trump administration pulled the nomination after pen iley made controversial statements including climate change isn't rule. it manages one tenth of the land mass in the u.s. along with one-third of the minerals. violent protests over the police shooting death of a black woman. ahead, we'll find out what her family thinks about the way her case has been handled by authorities. plus, we'll take a look at a group trying to stop the months information 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[ chants ] >> reporter: everyone gathered around 7:00 p.m., they start marching around 8:00 p.m. [ bleep ]. >> reporter: an hour later came a terrifying moment. [ shouts ] >> they surrounded the vehicle to try and get it to stop. and the truck then accelerated, and the woman who was directly in front of it was swept off of her feet. >> reporter: christian moterosa, a freelance photographer, captured it all. >> you go into this fight or flight reaction. you see this very gruesome thing happening where a large vehicle is basically driving through a crowd of people. it feels very surreal. >> reporter: scenes like this are common now. ari wheel is a ph.d. student at the university of chicago. he's been studying vehicle-involved incidents at black lives matter protests. >> so far i've tracked 104 incidents since late may through early september. and the vast majority of those occurred at the end of may and early june. >> reporter: charges are not often filed, wheel says. and it's not always clear what motivated the driver. >> there are a few different types of people behind the wheel. at one end are the true, clear extremists, the card-carrying members of extremist organizations. a stepdown are those yelling slurs and are clearly rarnly motivated. -- racially motivated. we have some nonracially motivated ones with angry drivers. then there are true accidents like a gps brings them to a protest. >> reporter: wheel says there are people who like to see cars running protesters down. >> there's an online environment encouraging these -- these incidents. >> reporter: memes about using cars as weapons have spread on the right. remarkably, some even celebrate the killing of heather heyer in charlottesville, virginia, in 21st. some conservative lawmakers have tried to pass laws that protect drivers who claim they're afraid for their lives. those efforts have failed for the most part. but florida governor blagojevich d -- governor desantis introduced new proposals this week. there's still opposition include something in law enforcement. >> if laws like that are not written carefully, do you think that we could see more of these cars being weaponized in these protests? 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>> i think the thing about it is that we've learned what happened in 2016. we have learned how facebook was used to facilitate these attacks on the u.s. election. but facebook was never held to account. there was never any consequences for it. there was no business consequences. and there was no legislative consequences. and so we're now in the situation four years on where the country is still as exposed as it was. and i say this -- i'm very much coming into this from the stance of being in britain where i spent all this time investigating what happened in the eu referendum and facebook's role in that. we never even got answers here. so i think -- the constitution of our country's changing forever on the basis of that. and to see america walking into this sort of firestorm once again without these protections in place, i think it is extremely, extremely worrying. and it -- more importantly, the real experts who are on this board, that is why they have come together to raise the alarm about that, too. >> we saw -- in the uk, the u.s., we talk all the time about how people on the left and the right, they can no longer even have in i real debates because there's -- have any real debates because there's no agreed set of facts. they live in totally different worlds. facebook has respected create the disparate realities. is facebook really to blame here? is it just reflecting the more polarized, partisan reality we're seeing all over the world? i mean it seems like facebook, you know, it's an easy scapegoat for everything wrong with the system. some would say facebook is being blamed too much for bad judgments that people who want to believe the information is -- is right even though, you know, just like wye se saw in the piey the reporter just now, the facts don't matter. >> i mean, that's why i think that piece was so important because it so vividly illustrates this as you put it. the thing about it, i love this idea that facebook is sort of an innocent scapegoat. the facebook group of companies, remember, it aep's whatsapp, instagram, too. more than three billion people using these platforms across the world. and it has this one single private company controlled by one man which has no oversight of a tool, is it paid to have this absolutely pivotal role in every single election across the world. and -- and there is nothing -- there is nothing in place to protect users, to protect voters. i mean, i think that's the thing. from the really, really damaging, real-world consequences of these lies. i mean, that's what they are. they are lies, and facebook is helping spreading them. >> but can it mitigate some of the damage with its, you know, huge voter registration campaign? it's already registered some 2.5 million people, hoping for 4 follow peop million people before the election here. just the idea, the idea that it can mitigate one enormous harm with a benefit. i mean, why is a private company playing this massive, massive role in what is a critical function of any society, how we elect our government? the idea that that is being mediated by this one company that makes decisions on the fly, and as we see exisreaction exis after the fact. we all know that the family us on slogan, move fast and break things. i mean, that has always been the methodology of silicon valley and particularly of facebook. and you know, we're in this position where the thing that has got broken is democracy. and i don't think we have really -- we've really faced up to the huge consequences of that. but it really isn't possible to have a sort of free and fair election when it's mediated by facebook. >> all right. so you've eloquently outlined all of the problems. is there a solution? you know, what would you suggest to help try and fix some of these problems? >> well, the thing is is that this is the whole point of bringing these experts together is because some of these people have been studying facebook for years. others are activists who have been trying to raise the alarm about harms of facebook for years. the idea of this is it's added brains trust, where it's bringing these experts into a single space and getting them to bat their heads together and then to call facebook to do certain things. it's not for me to say what they decide to do. that's what we're going to see over the coming weeks. it's critical that there's a framework for these experts to be able to have their voices heard about, you know, the really clear and evident dangers that we can see coming ahead. >> all right. it will be fascinating to follow in the coming weeks. thank you so much for talking to us. carroll from "the guardian," in london. appreciate it. u.s. supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg is being honored at home and abroad. so after the break, we'll meet a friend who loved the justice, not because of politics but because of music. when you have depression, it can plunge you into deep, dark lows. and, can leave you feeling extremely sad and disinterested. overwhelmed by bipolar depression? 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