Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom Live 20190701 : comparemel

Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom Live 20190701

Antigovernment march is about to begin. The public outcry against the controversial extradition bill has grown louder and the government has shelved it, but not completely scrapped it, and that is why these protesters are out there in front of this parliamentary building. So lets turn oh our anna coren. She is following all of these developments for us live from hong kong. And anna, as weve been covering this, the protesters keep ramming that reinforced glass door with that steel framed trolley, and they appear to have actually penetrated a hole at least there, which has gotten the riot Police Inside very edgy, indeed. So they seem to be getting close to their goal. Yeah, they certainly do, rosemary. Were looking at those live pictures with you. They have been ramming this trolley, this steel cage for almost an hour. These are images that we saw earlier of them ramming that steel cage. So it has been going on now, rosemary, for almost an hour, and those riot police, they are still inside the Legislative Council building. They have held up the red flag saying if you charge, we will use force. Now, we know that the police are that they mean business. We saw it on the 12th of june, those ugly clashes between protesters and police when police fired at the protesters using tear gas, rubber bullets, bean bag bullets. There were more than 80 injuries. These were ugly scenes beamed out around the world. There was international condemnation. Since then the police have had a pretty low profile. We havent seen them out in force until today. There were ugly clashes this morning at 7 30 a. M. This morning. There were ugly clashes then. There was a standoff. It then seemed to dissipate, but now we are seeing these protesters trying to get inside the Legislative Council building, and i was with Andrew Stephens down there when the protesters were discussing what is the next step, what form of action do we want to take. There is a lot of debate. We have to remember that this is a leaderless protest, these are leaderless demonstrations. This is something being brought together by social media and the app telegram. That is how these protesters are communicating. The majority of them are very young, on university break, who are not just fighting to have that extradition bill completely withdrawn, they are fighting for the future of hong kong. That is what is at stake for these young people of hong kong. They fear the encroachment of china. They fear that their freedoms are being eroded and they fear that they need to fight it. Many of them feel they need to act with force. Lets now go to our Andrew Stephens who is down there in the thick of it outside the Legislative Council building. Andrew, what is going on . Reporter a slight lull at the moment, anna, but ive just been into the crowd behind me here to gauge the extent of the damage because we know that theyve been ramming one metal cage on wheels repeatedly into the front doors, these reinforced glassfront doors, but all along now this glass glass frontage, you can see, there are protesters with poles or with some sort of objects trying to smash the glass. And i got up to the front there. They were surrounded by other protesters. They were hammering at the glass. Behind that glass they had actually broken the glass. Behind it was what looked like a steel gate so they couldnt get any further with that. But the protesters are stopping people taking photographs of what theyre doing. Theyre obviously worried about being identified, which you can understand, but the situation remains. You have heavily armed or prepared Police Inside that building standing there watching as protesters are trying to smash their way into them. Now, nowhere can you think that theyre going to let them come in and storm actually into the building. So those police are there and they will react if those doors, if that glass is breached in a significant way. So there are dozens inside the building. Ive been toerld there are literally dozens of police on the other side of the parliament waiting to act. When they act, they will act in concert, no doubt, and try to sweep these people out of here. But the moment its a standoff. The students are still trying to get in and the police are standing by and watching. Yeah, andrew, those hundreds of police that we can see from our Vantage Point over our shoulder, perhaps gentlemjavid, cameraman, can zoom in. But there are hundreds of them with helmets, with shields, with batons. They are getting ready to act and we heard a short time ago them yelling at people on the street saying move, we are coming in. Telling people who were just standing by watching saying get out of here. We are about to act. So andrew, it really does feel like the police are about to do something. And at the end of the day, we have to we have to put this into context. While this is a protest, this is meant to be a peaceful protest on the first of july, a day where they historically hold these demonstrations against really the encroachment of china. We are now seeing these ugly scenes, these violent scenes, these acts of force from protesters who are damaging public property. I mean, this is the Legislative Council building. This is Like Parliament house in australia or the white house in washington, d. C. This is a government building where the government of the day here in hong kong goes goes to work. Reporter thats absolutely right. And the june 12th confrontation with when the police did sweep out the streets and were accused of using excessive force, and which remains one of the key demands of protesters, an independent commission into the act of the police on june the 12th. The police themselves said that the trigger, the key trigger for their action was that this building behind me, legco, was protesters trying to storm the building. Which is apparently what theyre trying to do now. Police have made it clear this is a pretty big red line that they will not tolerate. Its interesting because the protesters here are mainly young, and as youve been saying, anna, they look at a future of hong kong under chinese rule and they in many cases they just dont see their future. They have no democratic voice. Their democratic voice gets ever, ever smaller. Economically, its virtually impossible for most of the people here to get on to the property ladder. Jobs as not as easy as they were to find and so on. So there is a lot of frustration, a lot of despair amongst hong kongs youth and this is what is driving these protesters to take this action. As opposed to the much bigger protests we have seen, which we will see again today, which is organized by a group called the civil human rights front. Which has so far got 1 Million People on to the streets in one weekend, got 2 Million People on to the street the following weekend and are hoping to get another big turnout today. And they say, and its quite true, those protests have always been peaceful, but its worth noting after that 2 Million People turned up on the streets to protest against the governments decision, chief executive carrie lams decision not to completely scrap the bill, she didnt take any notice of that. The government didnt move. So here they are back again. Were getting his much bigger protest about to kick off. In fact, its probably just kicked off now. So this city remains in a state of protest. And i spoke to the convener of the main protest, and she said until we get what we want, until we get that bill scrapped, until we get an independent investigation on the place action on june 12th, we are going to continue to come out. We dont know how and when but its not over yet, anna. Yeah, i think its fair to say, andrew, that there is a real sense of desperation amongst these younge people. There was much talk of them having this taste of victory when carrie lam indefinitely suspended that extradition bill, that as you say they want complete withdrawal. They want remember to resign. They want an independent investigation into the Police Brutality on the 12th of june. Andrew stevens, please stand by and monitor to the situation for us. Well come straight back to you as soon as there are any developments, but lets now go to our matt rivers who is monitoring the protest, the protest which has begun. Which sadly has been overshadowed by what is taking place here at the Legislative Council building. Matt, what is happening . Reporter yeah, anna, i think what is going on at the Legislative Council building really couldnt be any more different happening where we are, roughly 3 kilometers or so from where you are. Were near Victoria Park. That is the start of the planned march today. We do believe the march has started to begin. Although, when theres this many people around its hard to tell because sometimes it takes awhile for everyone to get moving. Whats happening is all the people coming in from behind me, so walking up this street and heading this direction. You can see over here theyre following this sidewalk, theyre Walking Around and Victoria Park is just on the other side of that fence right there. Weve been in this position for probably an hour and a half, two hours and people keep coming. There is an mtr stop not far from where we are right now. A lot of people have been getting off that stop, coming up here and heading into the park. So this is a very peaceful protest so far, at least on this side of things. These are people who are very calm. The police here very calm. No tear gas. No batons. No riot shields. This is just the beginning of a of a protest that we will see how similar it is to what happened roughly two weeks ago, two sundays ago, which was very similar. A march started here in Victoria Park, went through the streets of hong kong for hours. Ultimately finishing near the Legislative Council building. And it was for the nearly the entire thing was very, very peaceful. That march brought out roughly 2 Million People, according to organizers. Were not sure how many are going to turn out for this one, but the numbers, you know, there is no way for me to accurately estimate it, but it is certainly thousands and thousands of people that have been streaming into the park. Eventually, anna, theyre going to come to where you are for what hopefully remains to be a peaceful protest in their march throughout the streets of hong kong. Matt, i want to ask you as someone based in beijing, living in china for the last few years, we know people on the mainland will not be seeing any of these demonstrations and certainly wont be witnessing what is happening at the Legislative Council building. But tell me, how will chinese authorities be viewing this . They have been sitting on their hands. Surely they cant continue to do that, considering what is going on in hong kong at this very moment. Yeah, i mean, i can tell you that news of these protests, not only todays protests, but the protests that weve seen over the last three or four weeks, theyve all been censored in Chinese State media. You havent seen hardly any coverage of it. While i cant see the cnn signal in mainland china, there is a good chance it is being censored, blacked out by the mainland Chinese Government authorities. We know that was the case earlier today, as cnn has been reported on it. If you were sitting in a hotel in mainland china, you know, watching cnn, the screen would go black until we are done reporting about this particular story. And thats not a surprise because the democratic style freedoms that hong kong has long enjoyed here, they dont exist in the mainland. That is part of the reason why the people are out here. Yes, they are extremely upset about this extradition bill that is 1a on the list of grievances, but its just part of a broader concern amongst the people of hong kong. You talk to the people here. They dont want to become like any other chinese city where the government has the ability to censor a free press. Where they have the ability to knock down any sort of political speech or criticism of the government. And so youre right, you know, ive lived in the mainland for four years now, and youve seen nothing like this in the mainland and you wouldnt because the Chinese Government, the communist party wouldnt allow it. There could not be a more strark contrast with a protest like this that shows you the difference between hong kong and china. Thats what these people are afraid of, becoming just like beijing or shanghai or any other chinese city. Matt rivers, please stand by. We thank you for your reporting. Lets now go to our Nic Robertson who is also in the protest. Nic, this is something that the Chinese Government can only tolerate for so long. This, no doubt, is making them look weak, and its only a matter of time, really, before the Chinese Government reacts. Reporter well, i think at this moment, at this place here its sort of a question of when will the police here react . Im literally at the front line. Outside the legco building. The legislative buildings. Now turning to see the Police Inside. I can see the Police Officer in charge literally waving his hand, calming his front line officers down there. The officer in the white shirt is moving forward to inspect now just what the damage thats been done because each time you hear the cheers go off here, that is the protesters just behind me here trying to ram and smash their way through the window. Im looking at the glass there right now and i can see there is already a tear, a big tear in the glass. So maybe a few more pushes, maybe it will take longer. These protesters have been trying to get through the windows here for the last about hour and a half. Literally i can hear the thud, thud, thud and the smash, smash, smash of doors just a few feet behind our cameraman here, that the protesters are trying to put through. Behind me here as well theyre trying to get through. But its the officers inside. Youre talking about how long can the chinese authorities withstand this level of protest campaign. But quite literally on the front line of this protest here at this moment, it does feel how much longer will the police remain calm, remain standing by, but the officers on the front line here, theyve got their helmets on. They dont seem to be have their gas masks on, as if theyre going to be using tear gas, but they do seem to be calm right now, and just waiting to see which way the situation goes. But once these windows and doors here are breached, if they are breached, then the equation changes. Then what happens then . Will the officers come out . Will they stand back and watch . Will they just try to push people back . And thats the tense nature of the very front line of this protest. Of course, thousands upon thousands of people are coming out to protest on the street. Theyre coming out peaceful. They want a peaceful protest. The feeling at the front here among what i can describe as a predominately young crowd who seem prepared, the man next to me probably a journalist with a gas mask, but further back theyve got hard hats on. The crowd here prepared for some sort of trouble with the police. Definitely by trying to crack through these windows here, theyre potentially going to precipitate that upon themselves. Anna . Yeah, its quite incredible that those police are just standing on the other side waiting for those for those protesters to pierce that glass. And, nic, i can tell you there are some 400, at least 400 police with their shields, with their batons and their helmets who are staged, theyre assembled just 100 meters from where we are who are prepared to obviously come and join those other riot police and probably corral those protesters where you are. But, nic, please stay with us. We are monitoring this situation very closely. Dont go anywhere. Well be right back after the break. 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