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That china sent us. So, everybodys working on the same line and were doing very well. Were do well in a lot of ways and our country is coming back strong. When you look at job numbers, weve never had job numbers like we have right now. Okay . Well, he made a statement representing himself. He shouldnt be doing that. I have a very Good Relationship with anthony. Thank you very much. Thank you. But dr. Fauci, who has earned the trust of millions of americans during the pandemic, is staying focussed on the science. Can you update us on your relationship with the president. Well, ed, the scene has changed a bit because back then, when we were having Daily Press Conferences in fact, there was a period of intensity when we were meeting with the Task Force Seven days a week and we were having frequent press briefings. The opportunity to talk to the president. Thats changed a bit now. I havent done that in a while. But what has not changed and credit to the Vice President , who has been very heavily involved in this. And we dont have as many task force meetings. Its not every day. But we do have it two or three times a week. And the physicians is Public Health people meet even more frequently. I can say a day does not go by that i am not in contact with bird or hahn or others. So, we do that and we go down. And my input to the president is now a bit indirect. It goes through the Vice President. Im joined by a miami karbdiologist, dr. Bernard ashby. And whats your reaction when you hear these attacks on dr. Fauci and what it means for the big picture as this nation is trying to confront this pandemic . So, thanks a lot for having me here, giving me the opportunity to speak on behalf of my community, my patients and the medical Health Care Professionals out there fighting hard on the frontlines. In a word, disappointed. The fact were inthe midst of a pandemic. Im a florida boy. So, were in the midst of a hurricane right now, especially in miami. And the fact weirverring these conversations at this particular time is disappointing too, say the least. Tell us whats going on for you on the ground in your hospital in florida. Number one, the icus are starting to reach capacity. Including mine. 54 other icus. Another 40 at almost capacity. 90 plus. And so, we are starting to see an increase in hospitalizations, increase in deaths, as expected from the uptick in the virus spread in the state of florida. This is not a big surprise, unfortunately, and me, on behalf of the medical profession, we feel like leadership doesnt have our back. Weve made quite a few advancements and our patients are having better outcomes. But the leadership doesnt have our back, and again, very disappointing. What do you need from leadership and the governor . Just get the virus under control. Bhaurt i want to focus on is outcomes. We said this is going to happen. Its happening and what are you going to do about it . And wore not doing enough to get the virus under control. So, we got to handle this. You say you dont want to get into it. When you talk about things like a mask mandate, which florida doesnt have. Things like maybe reducing sort of rolling back or pausing on some of the reopening but it becomes to say those things t puts you i mean, in a position where its almost like taking a political position. Is it difficult to be in a position where youre saying get this under control but in order to talk about Commonsense Solutions t putsds you in sort of makes you a target of criticism . Exactly. The whole situation, to me, is corny. We have to have leadership doing their job, we have to protect our community. This is a Public Health crisis. A lot of folks talking who are saying a lot of things who dont have the expertise. What my comment is, is stay in your lane, let us do our jobs. Lets take care of our community, our patients, of our country. This doesnt need to be a political issue. Get the virus under control, period. Thats it. Doctor, thank you for joining us and good luck. We know you are right in the middle of all this and we appreciate you talking to us. Appreciate for having me. All this as the u. S. Has reached a new daily high for coronavirus cases, more than 60,000 new cases, which is a record. States reporting doubledigit increases, one is alabama, just announcing masks are now going to be required statewide. And oklahoma, the governor says hes tested positive for coronavirus. One highly influential model is predicting 224,000 will die by november 1st. It is 16,000 more than was predicted just last week. Things are getting worse, projections are getting worse. And as the numbers sky rocket, what you know about the extent of the virus could be limited. Thats because the white house is ordering hospitals to send all information on their patients, on ppe, on ventilators, directly to hhs instead of the centers for disease control, which is seen as more independent. The health and Human Services Department Says this will allow the data to be streamlined. But one says its another example of the agency being sidelines, the cdc that is, and a step back in the nations response. We have cnns nick watt in laumpgilous on this. And in california and other places officials are struggling to gain control of the outbreak. They certainly are. And just in the last hour weve heard from the San Francisco School District. Online only when schools go back in the fall. Pasadena, they have cancelled their world famous rose parade, which is new years day 2021. In Riverside County a federal team will soon be noon way. Medical military personnel to help where they say icu is reaching capacity. Hospitalizations in california focussed in los angeles where this line behind me is protesting at dodgers stadium. More theme parks opening in florida, just as the Positivity Rate on tests and miamidade pass as staggering 30 , which means the virus is spreading fast. And icus are already full in 54 florida hospitals. The Biggest Issue is we have a lot of aggressive, noncompliant people. If i get it, it doesnt mean anything. More are being infected now than before. Right now the southern u. S. Accounts for a third of the worlds cases. 19 states are now seeing their highest average daily case counts ever and 14 states have more Covid Patients in hospitals now than ever before. We could end up in a position where we have to decide who gets a ventilator and who doesnt. Hes where nflstyle are deployed to disinfect. Schools are going to be halt spaulgts. If you remember, as soon as schools reopened, there was a huge spike. Those asymptomatic but believe they have a risk of being actively infected, for now, cannot be tested because the state is trying to dip demand to speed up turn around time. Youve got to have a fast turn around time if the Contact Tracing is done. Which, other than masks, is the closest thing we have, until we get a vaccine. And hopefully soon, and i when i say soon, a year to year and a half. Reporter and you just mentioned that alabama just triggered a mask mandate. That now existed in 36 states and in any Walmart Store you go into. The governor of oklahoma who you just said admitted thats the wrong word to say has just said that he is not covid positive. About masks, he is not thinking about mask mandate at all. And they have different needs. All right. Just in we have more details on the drama infolding inside the white house. As the top trade advisor publicly attacks dr. Anthony fauci. Tell us what youre hearing, jim . Yeah, white house officials are telling me and my colleague that mark meadows, the white house chief of staff is not happy with the white house tr e trade advisor after the scathing oped on dr. Anthony fauci. They said navarro had been warned to deescalate the situation between the white house and dr. Fauci. And that navarro, quote, violated those instructions. So, at this point, its unclear whether this is going to lead to Peter Navarro being fired or Something Like that, but mark meadows, who has been trying to get things under control since coming on board, he is not happy about this. The other thing that makes this interesting, as you recall a couple of days ago, when white house officials were anonymously trashing him with the talking points, that were critical of the Infectious Diseases expert. Part of the reason hes in so much hot water is meadows was trying to lower the temperature after the talking point. Clearly that backfired. And meadows wanted to put a stop to it. And that didnt happen. So, clearly the chief of staff has his hands full because you cant have, as you know, you covered the white house. You cant have Top White House officials going rogue like that and publishing opeds and not going to the Communications Team at the white house. It makes it look as if people at the white house are all over the place on this issue, which they have been. And lets listen to dr. Fauci himself. He called the attacks on him bizarre. Officials have distributed what essentially is oped research. You are the governments top Health Advisor and the government youre trying to advise is actively trying to discredit you. How do you work like that . That is a bit bizarre. And its life in the fast lane. It is a bit bizarre. I dont fully understand it. I think what happened with that list that came out, i think if you sit down and talk to the people involved in that, they are really, i think, taken aback by what a big mistake that was. And if you talk to reasonable people in the white house, they realize that was a major mistake on their part because it doesnt do anything but reflect poorly on them. And i dont think that was their intention. I cant figure out in my wildest dreams why they would want to do that. I think they realize that was not a prudent thing to do because its only reflecting negatively on them. I cant explain Peter Navarro. So, i dont even want to go there. It was worth noting he says his input goes through the Vice President , not the president. Reporter theres no question about it. The president and dr. Fauci have not been on good terms for some time. The president says he has a Good Relationship with dr. Fauci. The two havent spoken, as far as i know, for many weeks. The other thing we should point out about Peter Navarro. It was months ago when dr. Fauci and Peter Navarro had a big alteration over hydroxy chloroquin. He apparently threw down a stack of articles saying see, it works. And dr. Fauci said what are you talking about, peter . That has not been established. Thats an unproven treatment. And we see, at best, mixed results. And many are not convinced about it. I will tell you i try to reach out to dr. Fauci this morning about this and he didnt want to engage all that much with the situation. He wants to focus on whats important. But you get the sense from talking to him that he is exacper a exacperated with all of this. Hes never had to deal with a situation like this before. I mean, they actually stopped for hydroxychloquin, because they didnt feel it was ethical to continue. And next we have a personal look at the disparities in testing in the u. S. Vurgss the rest of the world. It is staggering. Our own correspondents will share their wildly different experiences. Plus, ill speak to an official in Orange County where they approved a measure, recommended schools go back into session without masks, without social distancing and schools are not listening. 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This started on june 30th when i was experiencing a shortness of breath. No other symptoms. I thought it would make sense to get a coronavirus test. I couldnt find anything near my home. I was going to be near augusta for the 4th of july. So, i got one withiner 150 miles away at 10 30 in the morning. By then i was no longer having the shortness of breath but got the test anyway. Told i would get results in two tofour days. And theres an alert that says because of the back log, six to ten days. Then i called a toll free number and took several attempts to get through and after i did, i waited on hold for 30 minutes and it dropped my call. So, i dont know if they lost my results or if they are coming. But results two weeks after the test are no good to me or anyone else. But results, fred, the same day, i mean, thats great . That is great. And its been really easy. Ive got two coronavirus tests pretty much in the same time period that victor is waiting for his results. I got the second test at the local city hall. They had a mobile truck there. They took the swabs and i had the results, i think it was 11 hours later. I got an email from the company that did it. If it would have been positive, i would have had to report to the german authorities. Only through that Contact Tracing can you actually help beat the virus back. We have this coronavirus app in germany. This is telling me i havent had contact with anyone high risk. Id have to make sure other people in contact with me know whether or not my test would have been positive. So, thats something theyve had in germany for a while. Ive had a second test in, i think it was midjune actually. And i was having a regular check up at my doctors office. And they said lets do a pcr test real quick. I got those results in about two working days. I cant imagine the 12 or 13 days. It seems like that defeats the purpose of getting a test. Are you thinking what im thinking as fred has his app and im thinking wouldnt it be nice to have Something Like that, right . You could get a hold on what people are experiencing. Yeah, were just floating around blindly now. If i take a test july 2nd and im waiting for results, lets say they come back positive. Consider all of the people and places i have been in that time and now if i take a test today, am i supposed to wait another week week and a half to get whatever todays result is . When the president says we have the best testing in the world, im on day 13. Fred has had two tests and results in that time frame. We need to ramp some stuff up because how do we get to the other side if this is a common story . Theres a lot of kmiserating after that post on twitter of people putting five days, eight days still waiting for results after the week. And were not going to get to the point where we need to be to mitigate this virus if people have to wait this long. Go on, fred. I mean, i think thats key what victor is saying. And theyve been pretty good so far. As far as dealing with the coronavirus concern. Obviously a lot of testing is important. Whats even more important is whats rampant. Now, localized outbreaks. Test people quickly, get them results quickly to try and get these people fenced off, make sure theyre not giving the coronavirus to other people. Because of the Contact Tracing, theyve really been able to push that back and i look at our results for germany today. They have 350 new cases throughout the entire country, a country of 82 million in one day and only three deaths. Weve been in a single digit death toll for a few weeks now. I think this Contact Tracing, some our chancellor says again and again, its absolutely essential. An efficient testing speed is key to that. Its like two different worlds. But thank you so much for talking about this with us. Its really showing this difference between not just the testing but that Contact Tracing and informing. Its so important. Stay well, both of you. You look great, look healthy and i hope you stay that way. As the president demands schools reopen, new reports of a cluster at a high school in illinois. Plus the board of education votes to return to school with no social distancing or masks. And dr. Fauci calling the white houses attacks on him bizarre and the oped a major mistake. Bottom line is, moms love that land o frost premium sliced meats have no byproducts. [conference phone] baloney [conference phone] has joined the call. Hey baloney here. I thought this was a no byproducts call . Land o frost premium. A slice above. At least three dozen students from an Illinois High School have tested positive for coronavirus and being asked to self quarantine. They held their first day of camps on july 6th and others were sent home afterec experiencing symptoms on the first day. Theyve identified soelgcial gatherings where theyve occurred. Some say they will not follow their board of educations direction to return students and teach thoorz classroom. In its report the board stated, this is actually the Panel Recommendations that were adopted. K through 12 children represent the lowest risk for covid19. Because of that fact, social distancing of children and reduced classrooms is not necessary and therefore not recommended. Requiring children to wear a mask is not only difficult but impossible to implement, may be harmful and therefore not recommended. The Orange County department of education, which is a different agency, issued a statement saying the recommendations were not binding and local School Districts will implement plans based on the needs of their schools and communities. To discuss this, i want to bring in Orange County supervisor. He is part of the panel assembled to oversee school guidance. Would you spend six hours per day in a room with like most of the schools they generally dont have windows that open, 37 fifth graders not Wearing Masks and not socially distancing. Would you do that . Good to be with you. And the answer is not only do i think i wouldnt do it, but my expectation and this is what i told the board when i was on the panel, is that no matter what guidelines you put out, unless the public feels safe, unless parents feel their kids are safe, theyre not coming back. The panel that ultimately gave these recommendations was made up of doctors, me, and our Health Care Agency to provide, on my perspective, the countys position. The county and board of supervisors i serve on has been saying, since early april masks are a good idea in the guidelines i put out. Says wear masks if you cant socially distance. One of the few things in this debate ive agree would the governor on is no matter what reopening we do, if people dont feel safe, theyre not coming out and i think the board of education is seeing pushback from the local School Districts to make a final decision. But your panel you were a part of, this is a panel you sat and came up with recommendations. And you say requiring children to wear masks during school is not only difficult, if not impossible to implement, you say it may be harmful and therefore not recommended. Brianna, i never said that. And most of the folks who came from the county, as opposed to outside experts the panel itself the district itself put together, were never saying that. In fact, i never said that. I actually did say in that meeting, along with one other panelist, joel kauktten, that it would have been nice to hear from the other side. I never saw or drafted it. I gave the pspective of the county and thats what i gave to you. Masks are a good idea, especially if you cant do social distancing. Youre making a distinction between what you said in the meeting and the recommendations from the panel you were on that were adopt snd. Correct. They were not my recommendations youre part of the panel that drafted recommendations . All i did was give a couple of minutes, really, of discussion. There was roughly twohour meeting. A lot of people had input into it. What ended up coming out of it, something written, is something i never saw and i know and those on the panel with me never saw it. You believe mandatory mask usage undermines the rule of law and youve said youre not supposed to turn over all decisions to socalled experts . That is correct. In Orange County we saw a wonderful flattening of the curve, we were ahead of any of our surrounding counties with voluntary mask compliance and i think well see continued voluntary mask compliance. I get it i want to be clear about this. You were on a panel that came up with recommendations that were voted and adopted. And you have been against mandatory mask use and now is t seems like youre distancing yourself from it because you didnt vote on it. I neither voted on it nor did i write any of it and my testimony to the board of education when i was on the panel was heres what the county says. Voluntary masks that you you cant social distance, wear a mask. Don, do you think there should be masks in classrooms . I think thats a decision each individual School District needs to make depending on things like you just said. Do you have an opportunity for fresh air . Do you have an opportunity for social distancing . Look, youre the county supervisor. Youre listening to Health Experts. Do you think, in a classroom, without social distancing, there should be kids Wearing Masks . There should be. Should all of them . Thats a question the Health Experts have not said one way or the other. Okay, don. Thank you so much, don wagner, supervisor of Orange County. And we have a teacher as well from this county. Because the panel that came up with the recommendations, theres 28 School Districts in Orange County and none are expected to follow this. Many teachers across the country are writing their wills before returning. Plus, experts say ivanka trump broke ethics rules with her stunts. What do we want for dinner . Burger. I want a sugar cookie. Wait. I want a bucket of chicken. I want. Its the easiest because its the cheesiest. Kraft. For the win win. The first and only full prescription strength nonsteroidal antiinflammatory gel available overthecounter. New voltaren is powerful arthritis pain relief in a gel. Voltaren. The joy of movement. No no no no no, theres no space artthere maybe over here . Gel. Hot hot oven mitts oven mitts everythings stuck in the drawers im sorry oh, jeez. Hi. Kelly clarkson. Try wayfair oh, ok. Its going to help you, with all of. This yeah, here you go. 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We just heard from Orange County sprrs, don wagner, about the backlash theyve received over their controversial recommendation to return kids to School Without social distancing or masks. We have Denise Bradford on, an Elementary School teacher in Orange County and the president of the saddleback educators association. I hope i have that right, denise. Thank you for joining us. And i think a lot of people saw these recommendations from the board of education across the country and said what . Tell us what your reaction was to what the board came up with. So, honestly, we werent surprised by their vote, based on their longstanding patterns of behavior. But were definitely concerned. I know teachers all over the state are concerned. I want to say our state organization has sent a letter to law makers expressing concern that you cant return to school unless it is safe. And we just had the county supervisor on part of the 11member panel, but he was distancing himself from what those recommendations were. What did you think of that . I was a little disappointed because clearly he took part in the panel and didnt really own up to what he said. So, to put it out there, just in the twoweek period between june twektd and july 6th, cases among 0 to 17 years of age have risen 65 . Thats concerning and alarming to teachers who want to go back to school. To be with their students and we fear for their safety. What are you hearing . Were creatures of habit. We like our routines. We miss our kids terribly. Rls we go to night wondering if theyre okay how horrible is it to list having a plan for students and teachers dying . I grew up going to school in your School District and my mom was auntil the day she died fou years ago. I bring her up because she was someone who survived two bouts of cancer. I bring her up because shes not unique. There are still people i know who teach in your digs rlkt. And they would go into a classroom setting with preexisting conditions and have to worry about the outcomes. Are you hearing from teachers about that . Because as they look into the 40s and 50s, youre seeing more deaths . I definitely heard from teachers about that. Our district has been proactive and set up an hr covid email so they can help those teachers work through this, should we be going back in person. To be clear, nothing has been decided. We have been criticized for waiting until the last minute. But as youve seen things change every day and almost hourly now. Were in the process. Working conditions are bargainable and district and local are trying to come to agreements on what safe is. Were still waiting for uptodate info from the health department. I want it to be clear that the health and safety of students and teachers has always been a top priority and a guiding principal during this crisis. Thank you so much. We know youre working hard and you dearly want to see your students and incredibly sad you cant and we appreciate your hard work. Thank you. Thank you, brianna. Next ivanka trump inserts herself into the backlash of goya foods. Because heart and Kidney Disease shouldnt prevent you from pushing your limits. Because every baby deserves the very best start in life. Because a changing environment should mean caring for the land that takes care of us all. At bayer, everything we do, from advances in health to innovations in agriculture, is to help every life we touch. At bayer, this is why we science. First daughter and adviser to the president , ivanka trump today finding herself accused of viling ethics laws with a tweet. She tweeted this picture of herself holding a can of goya beans with the caption in english and spanish, if it is goya it has to be good, used by goya in their advertising. I want to talk about this with ana navarro. To remind people how this all started it was because the ceo said that he supported president trump, the ceo of goya. And i wonder what you think a response from the Latino Community would be about ivanka Trump Holding this can of beans. Lets establish, that not every latinoin thinks the same. Here in miami there is a lot of cuban americans who support trump and who think it is great that she is serving as a free spokesperson for goya. Here is the problem, though. And i believe in freedom of expression. I believe that the ceo of goya has all of the right to express his political preference. I believe the latino consumers, the people who consume his beans have all of the right to express themselves by boycotting, by supporting or not supporting. And to support goya. Except if you are a Senior Adviser at the white house. Except if you are a member of the administration. Because it is a law where people cannot use their platform, cannot use their jobs, the governmentpaid jobs to help any sort of brand or any company. It is a law. She has broken ethics. Shes broken regulations, shes broken a law by doing that. I know that when your last name is trump youre used to breaking laws and youre used to breaking laws with your foundation and used to breaking laws with your brand, youre very used to having other people break laws by advertising your brands as happened with Kellyanne Conway when she began working in the administration. But let me tell you another thing she did. She broke latino laws. I dont know anyone dressing in white silk to cook a can of black beans. That in itself makes no sense. And so here is my thing. Look, youre breaking a law. If you want to be supportive of goya, or any other company, then quit your job. Do us all a favor and quit your job because youre not very effective at your job any way. But if you are taking up all things latin and supporting latin food and causes, it would be nice if they have the same passion for the men and women, the Migrant Workers who pick the vegetables that go in those cans. It would be nice if they take up the cause of dreamers. And if shes going to highlight a oppression of latins, while shes using her government job, how about this. How about a picture of a baby at border laying on a cement floor using foil as a blanket. How about that. So i think it is the hypocrisy that gets caught in our craw. Seeing her violate a law, hold a can of beans that listen she holds a can of beans with the same familiarity her father holds a bible. They dont know what the what theyre doing. And at the same time, theyre separating children at the border. And theyre calling latin countries sholes and demonizing immigrants and trying to kick out dreamers, so since she knows spanish and now taking up spanish, let me teach her a word. That means hypocrite in spanish. Anna, thank you so much and i want to point out the president tweeted a picture of himself in the oval office with a number of goya products and both of his then let me teach you this is instagram let me teach you the plural then. Thank you so much. Dr. Fauci responding to public attacks from the president s top trade adviser Peter Navarro. Hello, im kate baldwin, thank you for joining me. Ill be your broken record for the day. More states, more records, more rollbacks and more americans sick with the coronavirus. There are a lot of new numbers coming in. Theyre getting bigger by the day. So lets focus in on a critical few that we see today. There are now 14 states that are reporting a Record Number of people admitted to the hospital because they are so ill with covid. Across the country, there was another record, more than 67,000 new infections reported just yesterday. 67,000. Take one state, florida. It is reported more than 10,000 new infections yesterday. Compare that number to the entire country of south korea, which is relevant because the United States and south korea recorded their first cases of covid around the very same time and in south korea has recorded just over 13,000 cases total over many