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Survivors. Authorities are still calling this a searchandrescue operation. Although i have to point out, no survivors have been pulled from the frigid waters alive since right after the ferry went down last wednesday, and conditions for divers are worsening by the hour. Translator the conditions are so bad, my heart aches. Were going in thinking there may be survivors, when we have to come back with nothing, we cant even face the families. 121 people are confirmed dead. Another 181 are still missing. And most of the bodies recovered, were now told, were wearing life vests. Now that we know, will, that these search teams have gotten into the ferrys cafeteria, what is next for them . Reporter well, sadly, brooke, its horrible to say, but likely what we expect to happen now in the coming hours is to see more of these shifts coming back to shore, bringing with them the people who were in that cafeteria, trapped in the cafeteria as the water was rising. So many of these Young Students were in there having breakfasts, visiting with their friends. Likely looking forward to the class trip they were sailing out on, when all of a sudden things started to happen. They knew that something was wrong with the ship. We know that there were students in that cafeteria, brooke, who were making calls to Emergency Services before the ship even reported its official distress call. We have learned too well that the first emergency call came in actually not from a crew member onboard that ferry, but from a passenger. Do we know who from . Reporter isnt that remarkable. Yeah, 8 52 a. M. A voice described as a young boy, very shaken up, called, and he said, i think theres a problem with the ship. I think were sinking. That was 8 52. Three minutes before the official may day came from the ferry. We know 20 of those calls were made by students on that ship. Many of them frightened, scared about what was going to happen as the ship was going down. We know that most of the people who made those calls are now still on the list of the missing. Which makes it so much more tragic. Will ripley for us in south korea. Will, thank you. A quick reminder at the top of next hour, ill be talking to a woman with an absolutely stunning story. Shes a mother, a wife, on the Costa Concordia, knows too well the notion of fighting rushing water, gravity, and fighting for her life. She thought she was going to die six times. Her fury over whats happening with this ferry at the top of the next hour. Now this. We are in a critical moment in search for flight 370 now. It may be time to actually go back to the drawing board. A Tropical Cyclone today forced authorities to suspend air searches over the indian ocean. But its the search under the surface thats really the chief concern right now. Here it is, the u. S. Navys underwater drone, the bluefin21. It is potentially hours away from wrapping up its search of the suspected crash site. And still, nothing. No trace of the missing jetliner. And now cnn has just learned exclusive new information coming out of australia here. Officials are working out what those next steps of this investigation will be. Let me lay out for you the key focuses of the three key areas. One, you have the handling of debris, who gets it, where does the debris stay. Also, the care of human remains, if and when they are found. And then this one. Potentially widening the search area, if the bluefins final hours come up empty. All of this according to martin dolan, chief commissioner of the australian bureau. Fred, nice to have you on. And here i just have to ask in the final hours, potentially of this underwater drone, bluefin21, how much confidence do you have in this piece of technology . In mapping the area . What is next . Well, the bluefin21 is a great, amazing piece of technology. We just have to remember theres a lot of other acoustic systems in play there trying to make that system work. You have not only the sonar, which weve seen operating in dramatizations of, but you also have these positioning systems. They almost act like taking the gps from the surface, and projecting that down and using acoustics to get through all those layers. And then figuring out where the bluefin is on the seabed. Then theres other technology called basically acoustic modems that allow the operators there to send virtually Text Messages, get status messages, send texts down to the vehicle. And get updates from the vehicle. But all of that technology is really used for something where you know you have an area where you believe is well defined. Thats the thing. They think they have this area, but again, there has been no debris. This is based upon science and triangulation, that they think this is the area, but so far, i mean, ive lost track of how many days theyve been looking for this plane. I think its 47 now. They have the bluefin21, and youre outlining all these pieces of technology, why not use more i guess is my question . Well, there are different there are other technologies that can be brought to bear if the search area expands. Some of these are deep towed systems that can see out a much broader range. But it makes the coordination of efforts more difficult, if you have many of these systems operating in the same region. How do you mean . Why . Because of the various acoustics, like i said, the various acoustics. Sonar signals put to play for each type of instrument. So the phoenix the people at phoenix international, they have their own deep sonar systems, but theres also the deep sur mer jens lab. The chinese have the deep tow sonar instruments. And all of these groups would have to coordinate, and stay far enough apart from each other to operate their systems without interfering with the other group. But also, then you have this tremendous amount of data thats going to be collected. And theres no real highspeed internet on these ships to coordinate it. Its much different than the aircraft search, where the air crafts come in every day. And they can download their data, exchange it over the internet. When it comes to these ships gathering hundreds of megabytes of data an hour, somewhere that has to get coordinated where it can be brought to a Central Location and have somebody handle these efforts. The more people you get involved, although theres plenty of equipment out there, it just becomes a more challenging scenario. Sounds like the challenges continue to mount. At least there are plans, and theyre asking the questions, and again, the possibility of widening the search, really seems to be something theyre exploring. How to deploy resources, including other search assets, the ones you just outlined. Fred hegg, thank you so much. Well watch as we get the new information on the hunt for this 777. Coming up, the questions keep coming. How in the world did a teenager manage to hop an airport fence, climb up inside the wheel well of an airplane and survive a fivehour flight to hawaii. Remember, no oxygen in there. Well discuss that. Also ahead, Vice President biden is in ukraine today, as prorussian forces are defying any peace talks. What is next . Well take you there live. Later, the immense avalanche that killed 13 sherpas, the guides from the himalayas, helping people summit this beautiful mountain, after their death. Now Big Questions about safety on that mountain. The climbing season, the best time to summit everest weeks away. Will it go on . Stay with me. Youre watching special coverage here on cnn. Welcome back. Im Brooke Baldwin. You know the teenage stowaway who survived the overseas flight from california to hawaii, really defied death. It turns out the odds were not as severely stacked against him as you might have thought. Heres the deal. The faa Civil Aerospace medical institute knows 105 cases of people trying to fly inside wheel wells goes back to 1947. Of that number, 25 survived. And now the fbi says the 16yearold boy is among them. He is with Child Welfare services, now in hawaii. Officials have told his family in santa clara, california, that he is safe. Dan simon joins me from santa clara. And dan, is he going to face charges . Reporter we dont think so, brooke. First of all, as you said, were in the neighborhood where we believe this young man lives with his family. As you said, hes in protective in the custody of Child Protective Services in maui. At some point theyll make arrangements to bring him to santa clara. Were getting new details in terms of the timeline of all this. Were told by federal officials that the teenager, were now told hes 15, by the way, he jumped the fence at the san jose airport approximately 1 00 a. M. Sunday morning. The plane took off for maui approximately 8 00 in the morning. For a full seven hours, hes somewhere on the tarmac. Is he in the wheel well the entire time . That, we dont know. In terms of possible charges, theres a whole laundry list of things that he could have faced. Were talking about trespassing. If he was charged as an adult, you could receive up to five years in prison for being a stowaway. But because hes a minor, and because authorities have discretion, in dealing with minors, they have made the decision not to charge him, because apparently he seemed he didnt have a motive to cause any ill intent here. Thats what were told at this point. Dan, heres the obvious question. I know youre asking this as well. If were now hearing this, this 15yearold could have been somewhere, whether its the tarmac or up in that wheel well for seven hours, he hops a fence, my question is, where were surveillance cameras . Where was security . How did he pull this off . Reporter you know, thats the big question. We know that a surveillance camera did capture him hopping the fence, again, at 1 00 in the morning. We know there is a surveillance camera in maui, when he came off the airplane. So i think thats really the question, brooke. You hit it, the authorities are going to have to be looking at this very closely. Are they going to have to bolster the perimeter, the fence line perimeter, not only at the san jose airport, but at airports across the country . Where he apparently jumped the fence its a bit flimsy, if you will. It apparently wasnt that difficult to do so. If theres a problem in san jose, chances are theres a problem at other airports across the country. Thats something the fbi and tsa will have to look at closely. Yes, they will. We talk so much about a wheel well, you know what a wheel well looks like . Well show you exactly how cramped a ride in a wheel well of a 767 can be. Look at this for yourself. Plus, the fbi told our hawaii tv affiliate kgnb, the stowaway was wearing just jeans, hoodie and sneakers, and carrying a comb. Temperatures were as cold as 80 degrees below zero, and no oxygen, with altitudes as high as 38,000 feet. Somehow this 15yearold walked out of this wheel well on his own and Officials Say it was captured on airport Surveillance Video. He was weak. He hung from the wheel well. And then he fell to the ground and regained some strength and stood up and started walking to the front of the aircraft. Senior medical correspondent, elizabeth cohen. When i hear he fell out of the wheel well, it tells me he wasnt doing well in the wheel well of the plane. I dont care how old you are, how do you survive this . Theres a chaps it might have been a little warmer. Remember, he was in the wheel well, but he was in the plane. The plane is going to be a bit warmer. Your body heat. All the machinery, the body, all of that. It is possible that it was warmer than that. But when you hear that, you think, to be 16 again, right . You can survive Something Like this. What happens is that when you arent getting enough oxygen, yourimmedia metabolic processes down. When youre in that cold temperature, your metabolic processes slow down, so you actually need less oxygen. That may have helped him to be that cold. Now you wonder, how did he regain consciousness . He probably lost kpgsness within a minute of being oxygen deprived. Maybe he gradually got more oxygen in him with the slow descent. Maybe it was enough time to get the oxygen back in him. And he was able to walk. It really is i mean, stunning is really the only word to use. Shortterm, but wondering longterm here. Well talk to a doctor next hour who knows a lot about this altitude and issues within the body. For now, thank you so much. It is stunning indeed. Coming up, the families of those lost in the south korean ferry disaster, directing their anger, their frustration and grief at the captain and the crew of that ship. Coming up, ill talk to a retired coast guard officer that lessons can be learned from a tragedy like this. And what the captain of a ship really should do when it goes down. Also ahead, Vice President joe biden in ukraine today with tough talk for russia. Well take you live to ukraine coming up. [ male announcer ] this is kevin. To prove to you that aleve is the better choice for him, hes agreed to give it up. Thats today . [ male announcer ] well be with him all day as he goes back to taking tylenol. I was okay, but after lunch my knee started to hurt again. And now ive got to take more pills. Yup. Another pill stop. Can i get my aleve back yet . For my pain, i want my aleve. 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The acting president said hes going to relaunch antiterrorism operations, saying the geneva agreement is off the table. This is because, as he says, an attack that took place yesterday in a city that saw prorussian protesters, armed takeover one of the Police Buildings there. And also take the police chief into their custody. The situation here, brooke, as weve been saying, seeming to be unraveling rather than coming under more control to a resolution. Arwa, so im crystal clear, because theyre reporting whats happening with ukraine and russia for quite some time. Weve reported on threats, weve reported on, you know, troops in and around the border. And within ukraine. But in terms of violence, this is the first im hearing of tangible signs with the severely tortured bodies, is that correct . Reporter well, you do have that instance that took place with these two tortured bodies, and in listening to the reports that were coming out about them, it is chillingly reminiscent of the violence we saw taking place in iraq where unidentified mutilated bodies were regularly pulled out of the tigris river. But you also have the incident that took place a few nights ago where a prorussian checkpoint was attacked. Three prorussian protesters manning that checkpoint were killed. Their funerals took place earlier today. There have been a few instances of clashes, people being killed. But it most certainly seems when you look at all of this, with now this local politicians body being identified, with one of the Police Chiefs being taken into custody, the situation here does seem to be unraveling. Despite all of the efforts, at least on the bigger political level to try to bring about some resolution, on the ground, brooke, were not seeing any of that materialize into anything concrete. Unraveling, the appropriate word here, it sounds like in ukraine. Arwa damon, live in donetsk, thank you. The adage here, other news, the adage said the captain should go down with the ship. What happens when he does not . The captain of the Costa Concordia faced a public shaming. What does the law say about this, when is it fair for a captain to abandon ship even when lives are at stake . A lot of questions people are asking after the south korean ferry disaster. Cnn, back after this. [ male announcer ] this is jim. A man who doesnt stand still. But jim has afib, atrial fibrillation, an irregular heartbeat not caused by a heart valve problem. That puts jim at a greater risk of stroke. For years, jims medicine tied him to a monthly trip to the clinic to get his blood tested. But now, with onceaday xarelto jims on the move. Jims doctor recommended xarelto. Like warfarin, xarelto is proven effective to reduce afibrelated stroke risk. 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