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on his feet. this prisoner has the face of the syrian regime tattooed on his chest. portraits of of the family that has ruled syria for more than 40 years. former president haffaz assad, and on the back, a tribute to hezbollah, the shiite movement in syria, and then someone has put tattoos showing assad's face, and allah is great is all that the prisoner says. this prisoner is a member of the group that is a former member of the agricultural industry who does not want to be identified. >> it looked to me that somebody deliberately cut on the tattoos of the assad family. >>. this man was cut because he wanted to show loyalty to the rebels. it is unlikely. and now this man trembles looking at the caps or the loo g looking at his captors every time he speaks. i worked in aleppo until it was blown up. desperate to pay for his wife's cesarean section, he took money as a guard and he said he had been on the job for fife dve da when the rebels captured him. the top enforcer in the facility is a hulking man named jumbo, and he says he endured days of torture in government prisons. in another room he seems to treat captured soldiers and army officers with more respect. days ago these were men in uniform fighting for the syrian government. now they are captors of an increasingly confident rebel movement determined to destroy the syrian regime. ivan watson, cnn, reporting from northern syria. we have another story out of syria. again, we have to warn you about some of the video that we are showing out of syria. it is quite frankly brutal. it is very graphic. it appears to show people being killed, and some say executed. this is really at the heart of the conflict here, and this is the city of aleppo, and where things are rapidly deteriorating. [ gun fire ] >> you are hearing massive gunshots ringing out there. you are watching what apparently looks like some kind of execution. we cannot confirm this 100%, the awe then t authenticity of the video, but we are told that these are members of syria's rebel movement. what they are doing, and what appears to be is that they are lining up militiaen loyal to bashar al assad and these are the rebels killing them with machine guns and the crowd of rebels cheering and chanting. i want to bring in hala gorani to walk us through what we are watching and make sense of this, because now we are not talking about assad's forces, but talking about the rebels here on the ground and what they are allegedly doing. >> right. this is the biggest fear for syria, that this country, and in this case, we believe it happened in aleppo, that it will spiral into sectarian killing and rejeng attacks based on sect, and based on religion, and in this particular instance, we believe that these men who the rebels accuse of being the ghosts, the assad men and regular army, and these are revenge executions, because they blame this particular family and group for having killed protesters and having killed rebel soldiers. let me try to walk you through this and again, a fair warning for viewers if you have children or sensitive to violence and bloodshed, you might want to turn away at this stage. but this is what we are seeing in the first bit of this video. it shows the moment of capture, suzanne, of these militia men or what the rebels say are militia men. they are capture and kicked as you see them there lying and the faces bloodied, and then another piece of video here of the captured men held in a room there. we are showing their faces, because we can see the fear on the faces of some of these men in this case. and we are showing you the moment where they are rounded up in what we believe to be a classroom. then, and this is really the difficult part to watch. we have blurred some of the faces there. now, you can clearly identify some of the men who were in the room, a nd now lined up againsta wall. outside. we can hear some of the men saying don't shoot, don't shoot. they know what is coming. they are lined up against the wall and then we hear a hail of automatic gun fire as the men are cut down. [ gun fire ] eventually, bodies are piled up on top of each other in the video, and we are not showing you the most graphic content. here. >> and this is absolutely horrifying. you look at the fact that there is no clear cut good guy or bad guy, because there is brutal killing going on both sides. who are the rebels? ople essentially desperate and picked up the weapons or are they criminals or a situation blowing up and ow of control? it seems that might become the case very soon where the opposition and the rebels are not united or you have some groups motivated by sectarian hatred and other groups motivated by the motivation overthrow a dictatorship. and you have to remember where it started. you have to remember that 17 months ago this started with the context of the of the arab spring when parents from daraa in the south said enough is enough and you cannot torture our children and we are going out in the street to openly defy the regime. they were killed by regime forces and shot the death. and little by little what the situation has turned into is an armed rebellion with groups appare apparently as we have seen in the video, if it is authentic and we believe that it is, apparently using some of the same extrajudicial at the ticks of the regime they are fighting. >> this is not the first time we have seen this, because it played out in libya when you had the group of people who, that crowd who dragged khadafy through the streets and that is what we saw there, and there is some stabl, there so how do they turn the corner and how does it change to have the different groups and the revenge killings taking place in the very much same execution style as the assad forces? >> well, that is a good question and one of the activists i was speaking to from aleppo said something very interesting. he said when the united states and the allies in the region including saudi arabia and qatar decide to arm financially or arm with heavy duty rep upon ri -- weaponry, perhaps part of the condition should be some training and knowledge of what the rules of warfare are, so that when you capture the enemy what to do, because in this case, if this is indeed authentic and these are the clan that is executed against the wall of a schoolhouse in northern syria, and if this is authentic, this is only going to open up the door to more sectarian bloodshed. >> this is exactly why the obama administration is not arming the rebels. they don't know who the people are, and they are disparate groups and they don't know whether they can trust them, and the turks who are actually arming them, and we are giving intelligence, but we have not gone that far. how the people who are aligned with the rebels make sure they get into the right hands, that this thing does not happen? >> well, go all of the way back to afghan in the soviet era and arming those against the soviet union and afghanistan and what that led to. you had the westernb nations helping the mujahadine against them and that turned around and did not lead to positive picture for the west. but i want to add one thing about the free syrian army and we have a piece of video again with all of the elements, it is difficult to authenticate, but a free syrian army identifying himself as a free syrian army officer promising to treat all captives humanly, and we have that video of him saying that we treat all captives from the shabiha by international law. and we don't have that, but it is out there, where at least one wing of the syrian army is trying to ensure the international community this is not how we are going to operate. >> we have been talking about this for days and weeks and we have seen what we thought was a turning point in the crisis and that perhaps assad's regime would crumble and the rebels would make a headway, but when you take a look at what is happening on the ground and this is at the hands of the rebels doing this kind of thing, do you think that now the assad gain some momentum or breathing space for people here who look at that and wonder, should i be supporting this movement? well, at this stage in the syrian crisis, no outside pronouncement or statement matterers anymore, because this crisis is internal and it is starting to spiral in the cases of these kinds of extra dishl killin gings and spiraling into something out of control. a long time now, assad administration has said that they don't care about the pressure from the outside, because they rely on the allies russia and iran and on the other sidef of the conflict you have allies of the rebels, those who are saying openly they would like to help them, saudi arabia and qatar and this is a conflict turning internal with outside forces and difficult to watch what is going on. >> it is difficult, but important to see what is going on. thank you, hala. this is what else we are working on for this hour of newsroom international. and this is a whole news channel that has experienced a deep cultural shift since the revolution. and philip cousteau is join joining us to tell us why luxury resorts are leaving the locals high and dry and desperate for clean water. ♪ [music plays] ♪ [music plays] who are these guys? 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[ male announcer ] stop the uh-oh fast with kaopectate. scandal and annihilation at the 2012 summer olympics in london. the u.s. jim ngymnastics team w gold of course and the first time in 16 years they have taken the top spot at the olympics and the white house confirmed that the president call them to congratulate them on their success. he spoke one by one to the fab five. and we are watching eight women, b badminton players who have been booted for playing badly. zain verjee is there, and let e's start with the scandal here, and who knew that badminton was so controversial, but there are repercussions here, because they tried to lose and now they are being penalized. and tell us what happened? >> when you come to the olympics, suzanne, you want to win. now they are being accused of deliberately losing matches. we are talking about south korea, and indonesia and china. and some of those players have been disqualified after a preliminary hearing. what is argued is that they deliberately missed easy shots and deliberatelied into the net. the idea that many people are saying is that they had already qualified for the next round. what they wanted to do was the lose the matches so they could play the weaker teams. so what has happened is that they have been booted out, and there is a little bit of cloud ov those three countries which is making the headlines. >> was the idea they didn't want to compete against each other, their fellow badminton players? >> well, if china won one particular match they would have competed againstt china, so it was not necessarily about the badminton, but the strategy, you know. so, yeah, one of the arguments is that that was what they were thinking. >> okay. are they able to actually appeal the suspension or done for the go around? >> according to system of the latest reports, they are done. there was some talk of an appeal, but the federation here is not accepting any appeals, and indonesia has reportedly withdrawn the appeal and china is saying they are going to launch an internal investigation. >> i want the talk about the fab five, because i love these women. they are awesome and so fantastic to see. this is coming from jordyn wieber who is one of the american gymnasts on the team and she tweeted it out, zain. she says just talked to the president on the phone. pretty much the coolest thing ever. that is pretty cool. what are they doing today? >> well, that is. it is icing on the cake. it was amazing and a solid performance. i was look at gabby douglas the flying squirrel and alexander raisman will be having competitions in the all-around. so they are celebrating, but trying to refocus and it was an amazing competition and got the gold since '96. what is happening with michael phelps? because he is obviously awesome himself, and broke all of the records, of course, 19 medals, but not getting a lot of love from the head of the london olympics. how come? >> well, yeah, you know, sebastian coe was asked, is he the greatest olympian ever, and sebastian coe said probably not. he is successful, but not necessarily the greatest. so he is getting flak from the u.s. and saying, is he crazy? michael phelps has 19 medals of course he is the greatest. the number count, yes, but what sebastian coe was trying to say, in swimming you have more opportunities to get more medals and you can swim into the relays, and get more medals from that, too. can you really compare who is the best and who isn't? look at jesse owens and nadia comanecithe gymnast from romania and carl lewis, and so it really depends who you ask and what you thishgs but mink, phelps is amazing and nobody can walk him out of the history he has made. >> and how are the brits feeling about their first gold. >> yes, everybody went nuts. they gothe first gold in rowing. two women won that and then they won the tour de france to get a second gold. everybody is happy. this is the mood of the newspapers, and "here we go" in the "daily mirror" and then the "sun" says, "going forward for gold" and everybody is saying, "cheer for bradley and cut out the sideburns here." you cut them out and the idea is to just support him and hope that he wins. so, little bit of fun, but it worked. >> absolutely. and we know that the mayor of london got to zip lining, and we will get to that in the next hour. and fancy cocktails and luxurious soaks in a crystal clear swimming pool, and sounds like a great vacation? well, philip cousteau is going to tell us why luxury hotels in the developing world could be costing locals the clean water supply. it's the red. it's the green and yellow. it's the red, white and blue. because at the olympic games, it's not the color you go home with that matters. it's the colors you came in and when colors mean this much, you can only trust them to tide. so help keep your country's colors true, with tide. luxury resorts and exotic locations like bali attract tons of tourists who may not realize that all of the amenities they have come to enjoy like the golf courses and the infinity pools and the spas, and we love that, is using fresh water which is having serious impact on the people who live outside of the resort gates. joining us to talk about this is cnn correspondent and environmentalist philip cousteau. good to see you. >> or afternoon for you. >> yes, afternoon. and the charity group tourism concern put out this report and blast the beach resorts in the developing countries talking about what is taking place when it comes to water. we are talking about bali and indonesia and san zanzibar and is happening? we are talking about the disease and the poverty and the local commu communities end up suffering, and explain to us why. >> well, suzanne, it is important to remember that tourism is the largest transfer of wealth between the rich and the poor in the history of humanity, but it is a double-edged sword. there are certainly a lot of concern not only in the resorts, but resorts around the world to the degree to which fresh water is being used for the convenience of the guests versus the use of the locals. in some cases, it can be ten or more times as much water, 20 times as much water as the average local is using the guests use. so there is a great concern not only about the water use, but electricity use, and we are seeing a big challenges in electricity and the generation of electricity in some countries around the world and how much is used in tourism and fresh water pollution, and sewage pollution going into the habitats and the coral reefs. there are challenges to tourism. >> you bring up a good point, because philippe, they say in z zanzibar that a local person uses 24 gallons a day versus 844 gallons a day for a tourist. what does that mean? >> well, for a population that is struggling for access to clean water, of course, up to 1 billion of people in the world today lack access to the clean water and it is the greatest crisis that we face in the 21st century. that being said however, and i have consulted with various hotels around the world, there are opportunities to do better. i think that it is up to resort operator the look at how they can use many of the same technologies that we use in this country, rainwater catchman systems, and on site gray water catchment systems to water plants or bathtub water to water plant plants. not all tourist operators are bad egg, but there are some out there trying to do the right thing and being successful. >> a couple of the numbers that are staggering when you look at it. 1 in 6 people worldwide don't have access to clean water which is a total of 894 million people. if you are a tourist at some of the resorts and you want have to have a good time, what can you do to help out the local population? >> well, being informed. knowledge is power, suzanne, and the key for tourist, and you know, i tell people all of the time everything that we do make a difference and all of the choices ma s have a consequence. so when you go on vacation, make sure that you understand what the tourism is going to engage in, and the united foundation has started the global sustaining council, and that is a great resort with other tourism operators and tours around the world, and google search will bring up great resources that people and prospective tourists can engage in to make sure they are having a great time on vacation, but also having a positive impact on the community they are viz silling. >> all right. philippe cousteau, appreciate it. lights back on in india, and for how long? what caused the massive blackout for over half of the grid and half of the country? i didn't know how i was gonna to do it, but i knew i was gonna get that opportunity one day, and that's what happened with university of phoenix. nothing can stop me now. i feel like the sky's the limit with what i can do and what i can accomplish. my name is naphtali bryant and i am a phoenix. visit phoenix.edu to find the program that's right for you. enroll now. you see us, at the s

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