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The iranian consulate in damascus earlier this month, israels military says with the help of its partners, including the us and the uk, it intercepted some 99 of more than 300 missiles and drones and other projectiles launched by iran israeli war cabinet, ended a meeting today without reaching a decision, but determined to act. One member saying, israel will quote, exact a price at the time of its choosing, President Biden met virtually with g7 leaders today to discuss what he calls quote, an urgent diplomatic response and late lab as night biden spoke with israeli Prime Minister netanyahu over the phone reaffirming the us is ironclad commitment to its ally, but making it clear, the us will not i participate in any Israeli Attack against iranian territory right now, Un Security Council is holding an emergency meeting. Un Secretary General rule called for restraint now is the time to diffuse and the escalates now is the time for maximum restraint we have a team of reporters here In Washington and Around The World tracking all of the latest developments we begin with cnns International Diplomatic edited, Nic Robertson. Robertson in jerusalem nick, know the range of responses that israel is considering right now and if theyll abide by bidens pressure not to strike inside iranian territory yeah, its a very difficult question for the israeli war cabinet at the moment because it gets to the heart of how israel has handled all threats in the region until now, which is to deter the opponent from, from trying again. And this is precisely what the white house is guiding against, which is an escalation, which around us said it will respond to the war cabinet. What it meant today, a very small war cabinet that it is benny gantz along with the Prime Minister. And you go and the Defense Minister their head of mossad, david barnea, was there as well. We also saw that the army Chief Of Staff general herzi halevi, was present. I think this is a slight broadening of what we normally see in the war cabinet. And then of course three others were there as well. The sort of observers thetas. But what the resolve is at the moment appears to be two bide time a little bit and consider the move and i think this indicates that any impetuous sense that there was a need to respond immediately. Thats been set to one side to consider how allies and parks might be bought on board. And that was something we heard separately from your ive gone the Defense Minister speaking separately after his conversation with us secretary of defense, lloyd austin talking about building a broader coalition of partners in the region. So it does seem to be that whatever the next move is going to be on the war cabinet is determined that there will be a move against iran, but the scope and scale of it should it be the maximalist . A deterrence style that israel is used in the past, which is to show absolutely sort of break all the crockery if you will or will there be something thats more defined and definitive that will perhaps try to, as weve heard from israeli officials today, to encourage allies and pi but knows to designate the irgc as a terrorist organization and trying to build a coalition around irans bigger threat to the region of course one mans deterrents can be anothers offensive attack. It all is and how each side reads each of these moves. I want to ask you, nick, about your sense of if there is disagreement within the israeli war cabinet, we know there is no love lost between, between some of the partners in that very cabinet itself. Is there a sense there, there is unity on this response, or perhaps disunity disagreement, debate the fact that theres no definitive outcome tends to speak to a level of disunity and we know that the divisions exist over how to handle how to handle the conflict in gaza at the moment, how to handle the humanitarian support for the palestinians in gaza, how to handle the release of the hostages and their situation seems to be no different at the moment. There are those that want wanted a very immediate response, but the clear pressure coming from the white house and President Bidens conversation where Prime Minister netanyahu does seem to have sort of bought in a level of pores and consider the next move. But precisely the breakdown within that cabinet. Its very hard to know, but the fact that they still need more time to to make a determination that i think is indicative of the lack of unity of opinion. Jim robertson. Thanks so much. Well come back to you regularly this evening. Im going to turn now to the white house, priscilla alvarez, their priscilla, that there was some reporting earlier in the day that it at least Biden Administration officials have the sense israel not want to expand the war in the region. Is there a read that youre hearing from the white house as to where israel stands on next steps well, thats certainly the case. James Senior Administration official telling reporters that israel doesnt want to escalate. That is what they have told us officials and the focus at the white house for months now, but especially in this moment, is for the conflict not to escalate in the region for there not to be a broader regional conflict. And that is the risk that they are trying to contain. It was part of the discussion on President Biden had with g7 liters earlier this morning when they discuss a united diplomatic response. In other words, trying to find nonmilitary actions here let me read you part of the statement that was released by the g7 liters and said, quote, with its actions, i ran has further step toward the destabilization of the region and risks provoking and uncontrollable regional escalation. This must be avoided. We will continue to work to stabilize the situation and avoid further escalation part of that, of course, is that the us will not participate in any offensive action that is taken by israel. That is what President Biden told is Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in his call with him last night. It is also what Senior National security members have relayed to their israeli counterparts because the assessment from the us up until this point is that israel was largely successful year there was no major damage on their infrastructure and so they are essentially saying, take the win here and lets not escalate the situation any further. Especially when tensions are already so heightened in the middle east. But the big question is whether these really Prime Minister decides to take President Bidens guidance. Theres an acknowledgment that he is also facing political pressure back at home. And as we have seen with the war in gaza, there have often been rips between President Biden and the israeli Prime Minister on next steps. So the big question at this hour here at the white house is what israel decides to move forward. But the message that the white house has been sending out at least today, is that they certainly do not want to see this escalate and the us will not participate in any offensive action here priscilla alvarez. Thanks so so much for joining me now someone who led bucks over the coverage of this last night as the attack unfolded, brock ravid, his cnn analyst, also political reported for axios baraka, davion hi jim so that is the us position. No offensive action against iran and the us will not take part in such action. Has that pressure landed . In other words, is israels war cabinet prepared to abide by that pressure yes and no, meaning you see that for now, they didnt take a decision on a retaliation, but this doesnt mean that this wont happen. Maybe even relatively soon. In the next few days, there are more things to consider cidr when you decide on a timing for such an attack other than what the Biden Administration says, you things like the weather, other operational issues. So i think the jurys still out on when and how an if such retaliation, will take place in the Cabinet Meeting, the war Cabinet Meeting today, they discuss several options this thing could look like on the one hand, as a overt kinetic action like airstrikes with f 35s, but it can also look like things that israel did before like Covert Operation that israel never took responsibility for. So i think it is still unclear exactly which path youre going to choose. Thats good point when you look at attacks, for instance, on iran nuclear facilities, much debate over that through the years, pressure from the us. Then you had these series of targeted assassinations of Nuclear Engineers as opposed to a kinetic strike. I wonder when you look inside that war cabinet same question i asked of Nic Robertson just a few minutes ago. Is there a unity i mean, theres some reporting that at least one member of the cabinet wont meet with netanyahu alone because he doesnt trust him. I mean, is there open conflict within the cabinet about how to proceed from here well, theres an open conflict within the cabinet are almost everything i have to remember that almost all the members of this cabinet are also political rivals. But ill give you an anecdote. But what happened last night as israel received the initial information that the iranians launched, the Drones Ministers benny gantz and gadi eisenkot, both of them from the same party, both of them former idf Chiefs Of Staff came and told netanyahu and Minister Of Defense gallant and the other war cabinet ministers. Lets conduct are retaliation now, even before the iranian drones arrive at israeli airspace, why first, because as time passes, well itd be under more and more International Pressure not to do anything. And more importantly, if we do it now, it will combine with the iranian attack so that the iranians will not have to retaliate again for our counteroffensive. And then we can try and like sort of conclude this incident all in one piece and prevent escalation. What happened then is that biden spoke on the formula tania, and this discussion will sort of put on hold. And after the call, the decision was, lets wait another day and decision then as you know, Benjamin Netanyahu is under competing pressures. Much of those political pressures, including from his further right flank National Security minister ben gvir. Heres what he had to say earlier today. Israels response must not be weak in the style of the dune bombings, we start in previous years in gaza. The concepts of containment and proportionality are concepts that passed away on 7 october. In order to create deterrence in the middle east. The landlord must go crazy the landlord must go crazy. Is that the kind of Pressure Netanyahu feels compelled to listen to at this point well, i have to tell you that some members of the war cabinet, when they heard this comment, asked is this landlord not crazy already you know, its i think a lot of what has happened in over the last year happened because of things that mr. Bengvir and his im calling from the same Party Minister of finance, but sell a small teach. Did and i think this is the reason that last night when the Security Cabinet convened, it passed a vote that basically authorizes Netanyahu Garland and gantz to take all the decisions alone about the retaliation, which means that the more radical rightwing ministers like bengvir and smart bridge. Were sidelined and have zero influence on where distinct well go from now on on the military side before we go 99 of hundreds of missiles and drones that were fired were shot down in this both a victory for israeli defenses, but also for the help that it received from the us, the uk, which shot down a great number as well. Did this. And i wonder if theres a view and israel did this exposed weaknesses in irans both offensive and defensive capabilities i think what a lot of people in israel saw is and by the way, its not only the us and the uk, it was also jordan, whos also saudi arabia so a lot of people see that a netanyahus claim for years that israel will defend itself by itself i think it was, its been revealed that its null and void this is not the case, especially when it comes to israels dependence on the United States and on the us military thats first and second what we saw yesterday in a way, if theres some Silver Lining here is that this Regional Security architecture really worked yesterday and managed to counter this uranium attack. And this shows you how things can look like not only when it comes to Regional Security, but a lot, but on a lot of other things because there are a lot of countries in the region that want to Work Together with israel this is how we got to the Abraham Accords this is how we got to this Regional Security architecture that started at last for the last year of the trump administration, continued and strengthen doing the Biden Administration and i think you can see the opportunity here and the question is if the current Israeli Government is capable of doing the steps needed to take this opportunity its notable, as you said, that it wasnt just a us, uk, and of course israel, but, but era partners, theyre not advertising it right now. But error partners such as jordan that took part in this this as well. Barack ravid, good, heavy on. 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