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Here in the nations capital, a major new deadline, an important one, hangs over members of congress. And millions of americans could see their paychecks hanging in the balance. Just one week from today the federal government will face a midnight shutdown unless some kind of funding bill can be passed and then signed by the president. They are running out of time. With every passing hour, it seems more unlikely that they will make a deal in time. So federal agencies have started Contingency Planning for a shutdown for millions of federal workers and military personnel. Their paychecks could be delayed, possibly for weeks. Today the House Speaker Kevin Mccarthy conceded he has to win over republican hardliners, but is hopeful that theyll fall in line at some point to pass a Stopgap Spending Measure and prevent the shutdown. Cnns Priscilla Alvarez joins us at the white house. How is the Biden Administration preparing for the possibility of no deal up on capitol hill . It sound like the Office Of Management And Budget, which is a percent of the white house, has started to tell these agencies you got to get ready. Reporter thats exactly right, jim. The white house is essentially telling federal agencies to dust off their plans for a potential shutdown. Just yesterday the Office Of Management And Budget formally initiated that process. And now every agency is looking at their plans, and that includes, for example, how many people get furloughed, who is essential and will have to work without pay, and also what activities have to come to a halt, what services may be disrupted. Of course there are services that are going to continue, be it bored protection, federal Law Enforcement and air traffic control. But the White House Press secretary when talking about it this week put the blame at the feet of republicans and said they have to get their act together. Take a listen. Republican shutdown does not have to happen. They can do do their job and keep these vital programs continuing, keeping the government open. Our message is this should not be happening. We should not be putting American Families lives in turmoil. Reporter now we heard from republicans today who tried to project confidence in a path forward, but the reality is they still dont have the votes. And priscilla, what about this surge of migrants at the u. S. Mexico border . I guess what happens next with that . Reporter well, that is something that we saw play out over the course of the week. To give you context here, the federal border authorities were encountering over 8,000 people a day. Compared to a few months ago when it was 3,500 a day. You see the marked increase this. Places an immense strain on federal resources and also creates logistical and humanitarian challenges for this administration. Its also political. The timing here, republicans talking about border security, trying to include that in their bills as we talk about the shutdown, and the white house saying that that should be a separate matter, that this is a challenge that theyre facing as there is mass migration in the western hemisphere. But on the ground, those federal authorities still dealing day in and day out with a new surge of migrants. Jim . All right. Priscilla alvarez live at the white house for us. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. Joining us to discuss, Cnn Political Comment tear andy navarro and trump White House Press secretary stephanie grisham. What do you think, are we going to see a shutdown, and what happens to Kevin Mccarthy . Does he survive this . You know, i sure hope we dont see a shutdown. It seems very likely right now because Kevin Mccarthy does not have the votes, does not have a path to get the votes. And because the majority is so incredibly slim that its hard to see where he gets the votes. This is not going to be good for the republican party, its not going to be good for Kevin Mccarthy, its not going to be good for public trust in our institutions. Were going to see even more dysfunction in congress. But ultimately its not good for americans. Its not good for the country. Its going to affect all of us, all of our economy. Were going to see people hurting and hurting for real while Congress People are still getting paid. You know, i dont think this helps anybody. And the person thats going to look the worst out of this is Kevin Mccarthy. Will he remain speaker . The thing with Kevin Mccarthy remaining speaker is that there doesnt seem to be a better alternative. It took 15 times to make him speaker the first time. If there is a motion to vacate and he has to do it again, were going to be taking votes for this many, many times over again. And i dont see how he does it without democratic help. And stephanie, we were talking to leon panetta, the former defense secretary and Chief Of Staff in the last hour, and he was saying back in the 90s when he was the Chief Of Staff over at the white house and you worked in the white house, stephanie, back in the 90s panetta was saying a republicanled government shutdown, Newt Gingrich was the one who essentially put the government into shutdown, that that helped bill clinton win reelection in 1996. What do you think about how this might i guess backfire on the gop . Well, i think that these last midterms show that people there were races that republicans should have won and they didnt. And i think people were showing by and large that theyre tired of the dramatics and the theater and the people trying to just be stars. And you know, these people like Marjorie Taylor greene and matt gaetz, and i dont like to say their names, but that is what theyre doing. Theyre not thinking of the country. Are they thinking of the districts that they work for . No. Theyre trying to get sound bites, and theyre trying to get a slot for vp, et cetera, if trump were to win the nomination. So i think this will backfire, but i dont know that they care. Kevin mccarthy knew what he was getting into. You know, ive been watching this and just shaking my head. Now i agree with ana, Kevin Mccarthys probably the best thing we have right now, but its unfortunate because this is not good for our country, and its unfortunate that theres such a small group of republicans that dont have the majority of the republican ideals and that care more about, you know, their own political careers or whatever it is rather than our country. Ana, i wanted to get your take on whats happening with democratic senator bob menendez. Hes facing these growing calls to resign after being accused of accepting hundreds of thousands of dollars in bribes in exchange for influence. He says hes not resigning, but ana, as you know, you worked in politics for a while, when prosecutors are showing pictures of gold bars and a mercedesbenz on the 6 00 news, thats not good. Well, it doesnt seem to make a dent in George Santos resigning, does it . And its incredibly ethically pointing at questions of Clarence Thomas, and he doesnt seem to have any intention of resigning either. Look, i know bob menendez. Ive known bob menendez for i will tell you almost 30 years, have worked with him on a number of issues. Hes been an incredibly strong, Vocal Voice For Freedom in places like cuba, nicaragua, latin america, and for almost any issue involving latinos in the United States hes been on the forefront. So this is very painful for me, and its personal. Hes gone through this before not resigned, confronted it, and came out on the other side with a mistrial and ended up back chairing the Senate Foreign relations committee. Im looking at all of this, honestly i will tell you i dont know what to think or how to explain it. It just you know, its very difficult to understand whats happening. But bob menendez is as tough as they come. And i dont think hes budging or going anywhere. Doesnt look like it. Stephanie, what do you think . Because i mean, there are some growing calls in the Democratic Party for menendez to step down. John fetterman, senator from pennsylvania, calling for menendez to step down. I suppose those calls are only going to grow as the days go on. But ana makes a good point, weve heard this at other points during this program, that is donald trump, you know, hes not exactly going anywhere. George santos, not exactly going anywhere. And so youre going to have some democrats who are going to say why should bob menendez go anywhere even with all of these allegations that hes facing right now. Yeah. A little while ago i was thinking that, i was thinking yet another thing that trump has brought to the table is just kind of the way that people are so defiant in saying im not going anywhere. Look, i do believe that everybody is innocent before proven guilty. Ive said that about trump who i not a fan of. And so i think he did the right thing by just stepping down from the Foreign Relations committee. But i think that, you know, weve got to let it play out. Weve got to see whats going on. I say that about everybody. I say that about trump, hunter biden, about joe biden. I think weve got to let it play out because sadly in this day and age now with politics, everything becomes so visceral and all you have to do is Lob Accusations at somebody and theyre immediately guilty. Ana, i have to get a quick if i may add, it brings up the bigger issue that nobody in Congress Wants to address because they are, frankly, reaping the benefits of it. But its the bigger issue of relatives cashing in on the names of their relatives in power, right. Whether its Jared Kushner and ivanka trump or whether its hunter biden or senators child or cousin or stupid brother, you name. It happens, it happens too often. And i think there needs to be or whether its Clarence Thomas. There needs to be clarifications, and this needs to be tightened up so people know the difference between legal and illegal and they dont get they dont cross those gray areas. Is the solution term limits . I mean, if this town sticks to high heaven as it seems to really stick to high heaven these days, is it time for term limits . Not just on capitol hill but for justices on the Supreme Court . I mean, the allegations you just mentioned, allegations against Clarence Thomas are just growing. Im not im not a fan of term limits because i think it then opens the door for a bunch of people who are not who dont know the institution, have no institutional for example were looking at mitt romney who has imposed term limits on himself because of his age. The problem is that the people the younger ones arent all that good either. A lot of them are crazy and dont know squat about legislation. So im not a fan of term limits. What i am a fan of, though, is emoluments closes, Ethics Rig Lousily and strictly rigorously and strictly enforcing roles itch think there should be a commission so any time a relative of somebody in congress is going to accept a Consulting Agreement or do lobbying for anybody it has to go through review and be approved. Believe you me, this is not the only case of a noshow job for a congressional spouse or relative. You and i know them. We all know them. Yeah. No question it needs to stop. Its disgusting. You know, and if its not going to be illegal, it should not be allowed and should be very well you know, articulated as to what is and is not allowed. Yeah. Well, youre right about that. All this rain that were getting this weekend, not enough to wash away all the stuff youre talking about here in this town. Youre absolutely right about that. Ana and stephanie, great to talk to you. Thanks a lot. Appreciate it. In one dimension . Think again. Flex any style. With hairspray that flexes with you. New w tresemme hairspray. drumroll by lonis, Little League this just in got the keys to what you want and what yoneed something new Something Sweet ming to a different beat okay now what . can i get a get a drumroll . what . can i get a drumroll drumroll . what . can i get a can i get a drumroll please oohh thats nice yahh ya, can i get a drumroll, can i get a drum thats nice and mines unlisted. 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You already provide proof of identity, residency, age, and citizenship at the dmv. All the information you need to register to vote. And joining us to talk about this is pennsylvania Secretary Of State al schmidt. Mr. Secretary, thank you very much for your time. We really appreciate it. So what do you think the impact of this will have on elections in pennsylvania Going Forward . Are you going to have more voters as a result of this . What do you think . Well, pennsylvania has more than 1. 5 million eligible voters who are not currently registered to vote. This simple but significant step will help enable those people to register to vote more easily. They always have the option to opt out and not register if they chose for one reason or another. This is a significant step in that direction. And i wanted to get your thoughts on this effort to disqualify former President Donald Trump from being on the ballot using the 14th amendment. Im sure youve seen this conversation, are you Secretary Of State in the commonwealth of pennsylvania. Youve seen some legal scholars say his involvement in the january 6th insurrection, that makes him essentially ineligible to run. Is that something that youre looking into in pennsylvania . The pennsylvania Election Code doesnt give me as secretary of the commonwealth the authority to reject any potential candidates Nomination Petitions based on eligibility for the office. Thats really a matter that can only be determined by the courts. And but what do you make of the theory . I dont really have opinions on theories. What we do and dont do at the Pennsylvania Department of state is follow the law. And in pennsylvania the law such as it is does not give the secretary the authority to disqualify any candidate based on eligibility. And mr. Secretary, i want to ask you about the federal and state investigations into trumps attempts to survert the results of the 2020 election. Have you been in further contact with some of these authorities investigating this, special counsel, Fulton County da . Might we see your involvement in some way in those investigations moving forward . Jim, im sorry, i really cant speak to that one way or the other. And what i mean, because you got caught up in some of this as we all know back in the 2020 election. You spoke out on this courageously at that time. What are your thoughts going into the 2024 Election Cycle . There were a lot of allegations made by the former president about unfounded claims of voter fraud going on in pennsylvania. Hes obviously going to make those kinds of comments again in the future. What are you doing as the secretary of the commonwealth for pennsylvania to gear up for this, to be prepared for this . Because last time around, as you know, Election Officials were being threatened around the country and that sort of thing. Whats that process going to be like for you . In 2020 i only did what every Election Administrator that i know did across the country, and big cities and rural counties, red and blue alike, and that is to stand up for their voters and having their votes counted. Its really important i think for Election Administrators, no matter where you are, to closely monitor the sort of misinformation and disinformation that voters are being subjected to right now. Elections have changed a lot in the last couple of years. Theyve become very complicated. Its no wonder that voters have questions. And its important that we not let them be exploited by bad faith actors seeking to undermine confidence in Election Results when they lose. All right. Pennsylvania Secretary Of State al schmidt. Thank you so much for your time. We appreciate it. Thank you. Still ahead, ukraine pulls off a direct hit on the headquarters of russias Black Sea Fleet. Colonel Cedric Leighton is talking about the impact on the war next. Somewhere, anywhere. 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Colonel, thats a pretty impressive firepower that the ukrainians just unleashed on the russians there. Help us understand the significance of this strike. Sure, is jim. One of the key things to think about here is exactly what happened. You look at this roof, and its basically destroyed right here with the impact from the missile. And when you look at the other things that happened on the street here, theres a lot of Collateral Damage thats associated with this missile strike. So what the ukrainians did was really impressive from a tactical standpoint and also from a strategic standpoint because this right here is the headquarters of the Russian Black Sea fleet, and that, of course, is one of the main areas where theyre actually looking at all the different command and control aspects that the russians are running out of this building. And so this, one of the key things that you have here is when youre looking at crimea, rights about here, youve got them running all of this right all of the black Sea Operations rs right here, you h them controlling whats going on the southern front. When theyre doing this, they are also looking at controlling whats going on in odesa, and that is important because this is where ukraine is actually shipping its grain out of. So anything that the ukrainians can do to attack this particular target, that is what is critical for the ukrainians from their war effort. Right. And ukraine may soon be getting these longrange missiles known as attack ems. What does an impact like this have on their argument for more systems like this . I mean, this is the kind of i guess punishment they want to inflict on the russians. Well, it certainly is. So the Attack Systems like the one that is being used right here and when you see this this is the attack ems in flights, what this particular missile can do is, of course, go over a whole area that is about 190 miles or so. If launch it from about here, it could cover this area right in here. What the ukrainians did when they launched this attack, they came in and used probably what amounts to a homegrown missile or one of these missiles, and this is the Storm Shadow Missile which is on the su24 fighter jet that the ukrainians have. So when they did this, they were able to use this kind of equipment and do it in a way that actually was i think partly a more important way of handling this, but it was also a system where theyre improvising, using some western things, some western Weapons Systems to do this. But the other things that they can do here is they can actually use this in a way that they have the range for the storm shadow is going to be up to 250 miles depending on the variant. Its an airlaunch system like i mentioned with the su24, and it can hit hardened targets. If they bring the attack ems in this, the range is 190 miles. A groundlaunch system. It originally was used to handle infantry and softer targets, but it can handle some of the more hardened targets subpoena as armor. This is the critical thing. There is one capability with the storm shadow, theres another capability with the attack ems, and they are complementary to each other. Their capabilities are getting upgraded. One ukrainian official warned that the Black Sea Fleet could be, quote, sliced up like a salami and potential future strikes. How do you think ukraine could pull that off . Can they pull that off . I think one of the key things is that when the ukrainians are doing this, they are actually using something that is part of the intelligence process, theyre going through and taking a look and seeing where each one of these ships is, for example. If they target each of these ships, theyre making sure thats russian capability to control the black sea, all of this water right here, is limited so they could actually do this and it is possible that they could actually slice and dice the Black Sea Fleet if they wanted to. All right. Well be watching for that. We know you will, as well. Colonel Cedric Leighton, always appreciates your expertise and insights. Thanks for coming in on this rainy saturday evening. Really appreciate it. You bet. Still ahead, a big test for coach Deion Sanders primetime and his colorado buffaloes. Was it primetime today . Could they keep their unbeaten streak alive . More coming up in a few minutes on all of this and more. 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Look, this is a strike that has really paralyzed hollywood, but its also a domino effect. So many other industries have been impacted by this strike. And the reality is that its had a huge economic impact, more than 5 billion to be exact. And so a lot of writers that ive talked to have told me, look, we want to return to work. They want this. But of course, theres still a lot to go here because they have to ratify the deal, once it becomes a deal, and not only that, the actors are also on strike which means things are not necessarily going to go back to normal any time soon. Jim . All right. Camila bernal, thanks. Could be a busy weekend in hollywood if this thing comes through. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. In the meantime, turning to sports. Deion sanders and the University Of Colorado got a bit of a reality check today. The oregon ducks rolled over coach primes buffaloes this afternoon 426. The buffs are the talk of College Football so far this season. Lets bring in Rachel Nichols, host of headliners with Rachel Nichols on showtime. Rachel, i guess you know, even sanDeion Sanders gets brou Down To Earth from time to time. What did you make of what took place today . Oregon is an incredibly talented team. Theres just no question about it after today. Yeah. No one expected colorado to win every game it played, and they were heavy underdogs in this one. But even with the loss, jim, the buffaloes are 31 compared to 111 last season. Wow. And the team has become this national phenomenon. Its because of Deion Sanders. First of all, hes a great recruiter. He goes into a kids house, flashes those super bowl rings, that smile, and hes been able to lure all kinds of top players to this roster. In fact, they brought in 51 new players this season. Wow. Hes also been able to recruit the best Assistant Coaches in the country. So they have a great roster, and the coaching staff, as well. You know from watching him, jim, it goes beyond that. Its the deion effect. Hes just so charming, hes so inspiring, and its inspired fans, even people with no connection to colorado at all are coming to games, theyre watching on tv. Last weeks game was among the top ten watched College Football games ever, and its estimated that he brings in tens of millions of dollars each weekend for home games. Yeah. I was not that excited about Deion Sanders being up against this program earlier this afternoon. I will say i thought about that for just a moment. But talk about the impact that this is having on College Football. Are we going to see other big Celebrity Football Greats coming out of retirement and going into coaching in the College Ranks like deion is doing here . I mean, is this Something Special that were watching that you dont see often in sports. Somebody come in and do a massive turnaround of a program like that. Yeah. I mean, look, i do think that it will have a ripple effect. I think that, first of all, it will impact how many black head coaches we have in College Football. Right now its an extremely low number. That number needs to get a lot higher. Seeing someone successful always inspires University President s and boosters. I think we will see people want to put programs in the hands of former athletes, as well. I think we will see that ripple effect. But jim, Deion Sanders is one of one. He is the only person in American History to play in both a super bowl and a world series. So you can try to replicate what hes done, but hes kind of the only one who can do it. Often duplicated. Huge impact for the school and city of boulder. I mean, he wants to win a national title, it sounds like. And he may do it in a school that usually isnt in that conversation. Yeah, yeah. I dont think hell do it this year, but you know, again, just turning around from 111, i want to keep saying that, thats what they were last year. He absolutely intends to build this long term. He said that both he and his sons definitely going to be there next year. His sons the star quarterback and cornerback of the team. He wants to make this an alabama, a national powerhouse. And then once hes done that, jim, i dont know, weve already heard jerry jones over at the Dallas Cowboys talking about just what a great coach he is and you start to think oh, no maybe if he has a Coaching Opening down the road, i dont know, we could see him go onto the nfl, as well. Again, only american to ever number a world series and in a super bowl. He thinks he can do anything, and so far hes been generally right. Yeah. Please dont have him go to dallas. Youre going to give me Heart Palpitation its that happens, being a Washington Commanders fan. Anyway, lets that uc about nfl. Yes. Jets quarterback Aaron Rodgers, he wants to come back. Many are calling this a season if not careerending torn achilles injury. But hes undergone surgery. Hes in good shape, and heres what he had to say on espn. Lets listen real fast. But im going do everything i can rehabwise to put myself in a position to be ready to play football again at some point. And thats the goal. I mean, theres obviously when it happened, theres a lot of thoughts about like is that it, just, you know, cash it in, you done . I dont feel like i am. So im going to put myself in position to be able to play again. And then see when that is. And rachel, he reportedly underwent some kind of innovative surgery that could speed up his rehab. Is that is that possible that he could be back before the end of the season . Before the end of the season would be a stretch. In fact, the fastest person to come back from this surgery even with the new advanced technique was five months. Five months would land him exactly on super bowl sunday. So i think its unlikely that the jets would get there without him. I think if they did they probably wouldnt bench the quarterback who got them there. But i do think that we are going to see Aaron Rodgers try to make a go of it in training camp, and well have to say at 40 years old if he can accomplish what athletes younger than him frankly have not been able to do and be himself. Amazing. Great stuff. Great to see you as always. Appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Absolutely, jim. All right. Well be right back. T how . Arent we all just looking for the hottest stocks . Fisher Investmentnts nope. We use diversified strategies to position our clients portfolios forr their longterm goals. other Money Managager but you still sell investments that generate High Commissions for yoyou, right . Fisher Investments no, we dont sell commission products. Were a fiduciary, obligated to act in our clients best interest. other Money Manager so when do you make more money, only when your clients make more money . Fisher Investments yep. 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Reporter instead, firefighters were dispatched immediately, knocking the blaze down before it did major damage. So the fires that you dont hear about in the news is the greatest success of this. Reporter these cameras are the new eyes for firefighters. These two position more than 5,000 feet above sea level can see across this massive Southern California valley. And theyre adding precision to the spotting of wildfires compared to more traditional ways like this Lookout Station where im standing. With this new a. I. Technology, they can often spot wildfires more quickly than the human eye can. Heres how it works look at this image. Could you spot a fire . Probably not. But notice that red box on the right side. Thats where Artificial Intelligence has detected a faint column of smoke. Theres nothing on that horizon. Then something appears on that horizon that wasnt there before. That could be smoke. The camera will pick that up and go that does not look normal. We have multiple successes of fires at night that had gone undetected, that were able to suppress before a phone call had come into the command centers. Reporter the Pilot Program worked so well that cal fire recently expanded it to all 21 of its Dispatch Centers where an official will validate the imagery to make sure it is not just dust or clouds. Our goal as an agency is to keep 95 of our fires at ten acres or less. So this tool increases our ability to ensure that were keeping those fires small. Reporter and the a. I. Is constantly learning. Each time a human confirms or correct what it detects, the technology adapts. Do you think that its making a difference in how youre able to protect the population . Absolutely. Reporter this Technology Wont replace people, cal fire says. Nothing can take the place of the boots on the ground. Reporter but can help First Responders stop fires before they explode. In my opinion, save lives and property. 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As covid19 disrupted just about everything, mel ramsey did his best to ensure some sense of normality. He taught erins son karate and more in a time of quarantine and worry. Ya. Ya. Never forget the basics. Ya theres your block. Yes. Tosheki is a seventh degree black belt and teachers karate in new york city. At one particular word i want you to truly forget the word cant. Its a word he refused to let define the pandemic for his karate community. Instead, it was yes, we can. No one was prepared for it. We kind of thought, well, maybe it will last for a couple of weeks, maybe a couple of months. But how we shut down and isolated ourselves and everything that we did on a regular basis, we didnt have access to anymore. Breaking news, Shutting Down. In a matter of hours disneyland shut down, March Madness canceled, three states Shutting Down all schools. I remember for us at the beginning trying to find what we could keep for our children. And that was really the older one at the time had some activities, karate. He cared a lot about. You moved very quickly to come up with an alternative solution. What were those moments like for you, though . Well, it was a little scary just like everything. We started doing virtual classes. And which wound up to be really good but confining to do all the kicks and punches. We would literally be pushing the Dining Room Table aside. Its karate time. Shutting the shades. See the zoom, move everything out of the room. Then of course the warm weather sets in, and we started doing more outdoor training. Did you realize that you were sort of holding a Community Together . Well, i kind of felt just the opposite. I felt they were holding me together. We were here like five, six days a week. We have to find a way to keep continue going this way. How can we do that. And i felt like i had an obligation to do this. Gibb. Ya. What makes you enjoy it so much . I feel like its not just what youre doing, its like the community is very welcoming and nice. And it taught me and helped me the whole way. Ive been working with mal for 30 years. 30 years. Just such an incredible role model for everybody. Mel teaches you that regardless of where you are in your life, you keep moving forward, you keep picking yourself up. We have an expression if youre knocked down seven times, you get up eight times. Not too much hip mel was tireless in stepping up and into his karate students lives during the pandemic. His spirit and perseverance helped the group not just survive but grow stronger. And mel, youve said if youre not learning and growing, something is wrong. You say this after doing this for 46 years. How do you inspire your karate students to take that on, just to learn and grow . Sort of like having a pilot light and if that pilot light starts to dim, you need to find a way of motivating yourself. And sometimes its hard. Im not going to quit. I just dont believe in that. I believe in lets just keep going and see if we can become better than we were today. Lets see what tomorrow has in store. And erin is joining us now. Youve seen the karate instructor, mels impacts on your son and others. Tell us about that. Its interesting. When i first Met Mel Martial Arts and karate were unknown to me. This is my window into this started a few months before covid took over. But its been amazing to get to know someone like that, so humble, devoted to his just craft and his practice. And such an extraordinary impact on so many lives. Another woman that you saw in the piece there, leslie, she actually met mel through her daughter, signed her daughter up for karate, her daughter did it for many years and ended up stopping. But shes continued. For decades. And so she talks about the confidence and strength its given her. And many of these people who have known mel for many years, not obviously the children, but they talk, jim, about how you change so much in your life, we all do. Your needs change. Sometimes your Friend Groups change. This has been something thats been a constant for them, a source of confidence and strength and perseverance. And certainly for my son, it has brought all of those things and become something that he feels is very significant in his young life. Thats so great. And our kids need mentors in their lives. Just seems like mel ha

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