Cnn moments ago, the parents of the oxford, Michigan School shooter were sentenced to ten to 15 years in prison each. James and Jennifer Crumbley were both found guilty of four counts of Involuntary Manslaughter through their teenage son murdered four of his classmates back in 2021. And this is really a Landmark Case with the crumbleys being the first parents convicted and sentenced for a Mass School Shooting been committed by their child. Today, we heard emotional impact statements from the families of the victims, the crumbleys also addressing the court cnns jean casarez far as is joining us now for this gene, really emotional testimony from the Family Members of those victims today and this is the first time in this country ever that we have not only had charges and a conviction of homicide against the parents of a School Shooter. But now a sentencing for the parents of a School Shooter who didnt not pulled the trigger of a gun. Prosecution argued today before the judge for sentencing that the continued Gross Negligence that but those smallest of decisions could have changed the course of this and they did nothing in regard to that. The defense trying to show that there was an independent act. It was there some that pose pulled the trigger, but it was those victim impact statements that the judge must consider and she did of what and how those lives have changed or the families of those four students all right. I think were going to look at that in a second, but riana, the impact today or this sentence ten to 15 teen years, which means that at the end of ten years, they can go before parole board. They can possibly get parole 15 years would be the maximum, but they both spoken, begged for mercy for the court, but it just didnt i think stand in the way of those victim impact statements. This is madison baldwins mother who created a timeline of what she was doing to find her daughter and how the crumbleys were just trying to locate that gun while you were hiding i was planning her funeral and why you were running away from your son and your responsibilities . I was forced to do the worst possible thing, apparent good. Do i was forced as they goodbye to why madison they chose to ignore the Warning Signs and now as weve heard through all of the objections they continued to choose to blame everyone, but themselves hello, madison tate, and justin are the ones who have lost everything, not the defendants. Judge. Cheryl mash, matthews is the one that pronounced the sentence she has been the judge on both of these trial. She has been there from the beginning. She knows the case, knows this evidence, and she opened up her heart at the end saying that she had labored on this, that she had been up nights, that she had prayed about this. And of course, she wants its rehabilitation for the defendants in this case, but she also wants and its a criteria that is looked at it. Sentencing is deterrence. So that others in this country, other parents, cannot believe that they can do similar acts as the crumbleys get away with it and allow these Mass Shootings to take place. It is undoubtedly a Landmark Case. Jena was something James Crumbleys said shortly before the sentencing when he had an opportunity to address the court and he specifically spoke to a loved one of someone, one of the teenagers that was killed at Oxford High School referencing wanting to get to the truth and nothing but the truth. He was alluding to testimony that wasnt heard during this trial, a walk because through that and explain if there is a potential for an appeal based on his statements its very interesting. It is a legal issue that i would think would be part of the appeals. Ethan crumbley, is there son. Hes serving now life in prison without any possibility of parole. He pleaded guilty to all of the counts of shooting those students and injuries thanks so many. The parents wanted him to testify in this trial because he had texted his friend during the middle of the night. The family never knew about these texts that he had continually with his friend saying i asked my dad from health and he laughed at me and he said, take a pill and just suck it up. Well, after ethan was arrested, the Jail Psychiatrists had many sessions with him and determined, first of all, that he was not mentally ill, but he was competent in what he did. But also questioned him about that text to his friend we heard testimony from his Jail Psychiatrists in the Miller Hearing that he told his Jail Psychiatrists, i made that all up to my friend. I never asked my dad for help. Never did they wanted that in the trial to counter what those texts were to that friend because they came in the parents had nothing to counter it with because the appellate attorney said no, ethan is not going to testify, is not going to relinquish this Fifth Amendment right. He has on his appeal to have life with the possibility of parole. And number two, those are medical records and were not going to release that privilege. So you have nothing so there was nothing that could be countered for that text. And james crumbley, heres whats interesting. James crumbley did not testify. He has a constitutional right to not have to testify. The only way they could have countered it is for him to take the stand and to say he never asked me that but the fact is is there a constitutional issue there to force them on the stand . He didnt do it to actually rebut those texts very interesting, jean. Thank you so much for that we do want to bring in tom hoyer, his 15 yearold son, luke was killed back in 2018 at marjorie stone min Douglas High School in parkland, florida when 18 gunman killed 17 people and injured 17 others. Here a board member and also a treasurer for the group stand with parkland tom, your reaction to todays sentencing and thank you so much for being with us. Good afternoon im just saying this is an important step actually being game and all this is keep weapons at the hands of people, heard others, or hurt themselves. And we tend to focus on local law enforcement, fbi in school. Parents have a role in this. We tend to talk about in terms of safe storage at home, but this family went way beyond that. They encourage their son to have a gun they were frivolous about his transgressions. And in the moment that they are in the office with him with a piece of paper showing that he was fantasizing about killing people with a gun. They chose not to tell anybody that he had access to a weapon and thats just on forgivable. And i think that just sets this apart from probably a lot of other cases. It might be floating around out there i think the right thing happened today. Tom, im curious to get your response to how they approach this case because a different points they expressed varying degrees of remorse but, as jeane pointed out more often, they pointed the finger elsewhere. Ultimately, what message do you think that sense thank and more an indication of what they are like purchased shirking are here. They were shirking it before and they certainly did after when they went on to run when it looked like they might get in trouble, they took off when there was a consequence for them this kind of a verdict my give people pause because they will know that there might be a consequence, consequence for them before Something Like this happens, before Something Like this happens they take some kind of an action even if its protect themselves, which could wind up protecting others your robin, is that people will look at this and that it may prevent other shootings i do actually, i think its a clear message that parents also have a role in keeping firearms out of the hands of children who just shouldnt have them. Theyre mentally disturbed and it will send a clear message that they can be held accountable and i think if they practice safe storage at home liability culpability probably wouldnt be there. But when you are as egregious as this family isnt just ignoring the signs and ignoring the transgressions and akshay encouraging the ownership of a weapon i think it will send a message to families like that, that theres a consequence. You got to step up and you gotta face reality. You gotta get your kid some help. Tom, where we appreciate your time this afternoon. Thank you so much for being with us were, more news just in to cnn, Donald Trumps two latest request to postpone is Hush Money Trial have been denied. So Jury Selection is now on track for monday in manhattan. And weve learned with the potential jurors are going to be asked. We have cnns kaitlan plants and also paula reid here tracking all of this for us what else can we expect here in these last days before the trial . Kaitlan, a lot of filings, a lot of decisions from the court the trial is set for monday and nothing. Donald trumps team has tried in these last time couple days has enabled them to push back the case. We had to essentially emergency appeals saying, please pause the case. Yesterday. This was the appeal yesterday because we want to see we can move it out of state. The Appeals Court came back within an hour or so and said no. And then today 20 minutes after an appeal was heard at when trumps team said, pause the case because theres a gag order on him. Its causing him irreparable harm as a criminal defendant, he cant speak about Michael CohensStormy Daniels in the way he wants to and the Appeals Court came back very quickly. He said, no, were not pausing the case on that too. There are other things that they are asking for to pause this case. They dont want to go to trial on monday but none of that has worked at this point i can anticipate that in a moment paul is going to tell us that the trump legal strategy has been to delay, delay, delay but before we get to that, kaitlyn, the Jury Questionnaire is interesting because theyre not asking directly what political affiliation some of these potential jurors might have, but they are asking if theyve been to trump rallies, if they support the proud boys or other sort of Sedition Iste groups walk us through the questionnaire. Yeah, the judge really laid out his entire approach to how the jury is going to be selected whenever this begins on monday, they dont they wont be asked what their Political Party is. If they voted for trump theyre planning on voting for trump. If theyve even given political donations but they will be asked questions that can expose some sort of very strong bias are they people who have adhere, adhered themselves to Extremist Groups in politics in the before, the proud boys, the oath keepers, groups like that are they reading certain publications or any publications . Where do you get your news from that will allow the attorneys to ask additional questions because at the end of the de the judge says, this isnt about whether you like or dislike donald trump. This is about can you find people for the jury who can set aside their biases and their feelings. Look at the facts and the evidence and be impartial jurors. So interesting what theyre asking him and what theyre not asking them now, to the Immunity Claim that are headed for the Supreme Court. So huge as we await these, what does jack smiths filing tell us before the court is going to here this later this month. So the only thing that could really distract from the first criminal prosecution or former president would be the biggest case at the Supreme Court. This term. And that is going to be this question of immunity. And last night, jack smith, he asked the Supreme Court to reject trumps sweeping claim of immunity. He describes it as novel and asked the justices not who allowed trump to delay this any further. They said, look, the founders of this country did not envision a situation in which president s are immune from criminal repercussions they said that is, that is unfounded. They said no one is above the law now, trump has argued that, well, if theyre not, they should be because hes worried going forward, there could be retaliatory, politically retaliatory prosecutions. Now thats something that has been rejected by the trial court and the appellate court. Jack smith wants the justices to reject it as well so walk us through the permutations of what a Supreme Court decision might look like. Theres a few different scenarios yeah, there are a look even if even people on trumps legal team, theyre not expecting that hes going to win out right on this this issue of immunity. But theyve also given the justices of possible offramp. Theyve said but always throw this back down to the lower courts for further proceedings that contemplate maybe some form of limited immunity that would be a win for trump because it would of course delay but again, we dont expect a decision on this since its the biggest case of the term, we expect that we wont get the decision until late june. That leaves only about four months once before the election to go forward with this trial, assuming thats what the justices are going to allow. The Justice Department has said they are open to doing this in the months before the election, the judge appears willing to move pretty quickly, but you have to give lawyers time. To prepare. And the Supreme Court has made jackson this life difficult. He asked them months ago to take up this issue and just decide it once and for all, they declined to do that, they let it go to the Appeals Court. Now they have it likely wont decide it by the end of the term that in and of itself really helping trump because it helped him to boras to lay, to lay we need yeah, those key chains or something. We use it a lot weve got a whole room. They just furnished the butter courts paula, thank you so much, caitlin thank you. As well. We appreciate it. Still plenty more news to come on. 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